Re: Unvaccinated son diagnosed with autism

[Guest guest]

We waited for Hep B til 2 weeks after birth, (if I had known then what I

know now, I would've refused it entirely), but I'm wondering if they

didn't give it anyway. That would mean she received the same shot,

twice. Think that's possible? And what kind of damage would that do to

a baby, having the same vac twice in 2 weeks?

[Guest guest]

I checked both my son's records, particularly to see when the older

one got a hep B because he was so intense since birth. He received

it at 4 months. We never saw any particular dramatic regression but

he sure wasn't getting better through the years.

There are probably many combinations of things that go along with

the 'genetic predisposition plus environmental insult' way of seeing

things.

Knowing our family has sensitive or weaken immune and neuro systems

I would have followed a safer vaccination schedule. And given

vaccinations much, much farther apart and individually. I could have

at least made sure that the boys weren't dealing with an ear

infection at the same time as a scheduled vaccination, or otherwise

ill with a cold. For example, from one to two years old was

consistently on antibiotics...I might as well have put the

amoxicillan in his bottle. I kept asking how come he got so many but

was re-assured that lots of kids get ear infections at this age.

Simple things like that could make a profound difference. This is

one positive of genetic testing too, to find out if someone is

predisposed to this so you could take extra precautions...if they

can ever figure out what may be a determinant or marker.

Of course not having things formulated with ingredients that are

known toxins would be a big plus too! All of this would lift the

cumulative effect, or total load.

.

[Guest guest]

Nope-my daughter's had no bandaid (Usually the bandaid is for the K-shot

((Vitmin K)) ) We only learned that they had the shots when we went to

have titers drawn & immunity for Hep surfaced!-Shari

Re: Re: Unvaccinated son diagnosed with autism

Wouldn't you know if a baby was given a shot by a bandaid on the heel or

leg?

We refused any hospital shots (or anything for the matter) & did sign

waivers.

Michele

In a message dated 10/13/02 10:47:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

Curepdd@... writes:

<< I do have a question. Where was Ezekiel born? What hospital? A lot of

parents do not realize, but even if you didn't have your child

vaccinated at the pediatricians office, often record shows that they

receive the Hep B at one day old in the hospital, unless you did sign a

waiver. Did you sign this waiver? A lot of times when parents believe

the child is " born " with autism (Which there is a possibilty, brain

damage/oxygen deprivation/mother exposed to toxic metals/mother

vaccinated while pregnant/nursing...etc )there is also the case that

these babies are injected at a DAY OLD! So it would be very hard to say

whether the child was born with autism, or damaged the first day of

life. Do you know if your son received any hospital innoculations. I

refused the shot for my 2 daughters, and later learned they were BOTH

given Hep B shots because I didn't sign a waiver...I refused, they never

BROUGHT a waiver...Just curious-Shari

>>

[Guest guest]

Does anyone have the vaccine schedule that is recommended by doctor cave??

crystal

Re: Unvaccinated son diagnosed with autism

I checked both my son's records, particularly to see when the older

one got a hep B because he was so intense since birth. He received

it at 4 months. We never saw any particular dramatic regression but

he sure wasn't getting better through the years.

There are probably many combinations of things that go along with

the 'genetic predisposition plus environmental insult' way of seeing

things.

Knowing our family has sensitive or weaken immune and neuro systems

I would have followed a safer vaccination schedule. And given

vaccinations much, much farther apart and individually. I could have

at least made sure that the boys weren't dealing with an ear

infection at the same time as a scheduled vaccination, or otherwise

ill with a cold. For example, from one to two years old was

consistently on antibiotics...I might as well have put the

amoxicillan in his bottle. I kept asking how come he got so many but

was re-assured that lots of kids get ear infections at this age.

Simple things like that could make a profound difference. This is

one positive of genetic testing too, to find out if someone is

predisposed to this so you could take extra precautions...if they

can ever figure out what may be a determinant or marker.

Of course not having things formulated with ingredients that are

known toxins would be a big plus too! All of this would lift the

cumulative effect, or total load.

.

[Guest guest]

Charlene,

I'm sorry to hear that Ezekial has been diagnosed with autism even

though he has not had any vaccines. Wasn't he on the Body Bio

protocol that prompted so much success for your older 2 sons? I read

about Lukaas and Isaac at http://www.bodybio.com/c_article2.html

It is really confusing that it does not seem to be working for him.

I hope and pray that Malakhi is spared from the disorder.

> Hello,

>

> Some of you know me but for everyone that doesn't here's a

> little background. My husband and I have four sons: Lukas is 8,

Isaak

> is 7, Ezekiel is 3, and Malakhi is 4 months. Lukas and Isaak were

both

> diagnosed with autism, after what I felt was an apparent adverse

> vaccine reaction. After their diagnosis I researched several

theories

> on the cause of autism. The theory that made the most sense to me,

and

> which I actively publicly advocated for was the vaccine - autism

> connection.

>

> In that I was convinced that my two oldest sons autism was a

> direct result of vaccination, I chose not to vaccinate my two

youngest

> sons. Ezekiel is 3 years old and over the past months I have

witnessed

> him disappear into a world of his own. On October 9, 2002 Ezekiel

was

> diagnosed with autism by Rami A. Amit, M.D. a Pediatric

Neurologist.

> Ezekiel is not vaccinated and has never received any vaccination. He

> has not been exposed to any toxin and he has been on a " nutritional

> therapy " diet since he was 3 months old. I followed his diet and

> supplements exactly as I was told. He never had gluten until he was

18

> months old. In holding to my values that honesty is the best policy

I

> must tell you that I now feel that vaccination does not cause

autism.

> If it did, Ezekiel most certainly would not be autistic since he

never

> received any immunizations.

>

> Over the past few years I publicly blamed vaccines for the

> autism in my sons. I even filled with the Vaccine Compensation Fund

> and when that claim was denied I pursued a suit for

thimersol/vaccine

> injury. I honestly felt that the autism in my two older sons was

> directly caused by their vaccinations. I now see how horribly wrong

I

> was. I cannot tell you the pure anguish I feel as a result of my

third

> unvaccinated son being diagnosed with autism, though in telling you

> the truth, perhaps I may realize a small amount of redemption. I've

> also sent letters formally apologizing to the pharmaceutical

> companies. I was wrong. I truly thought that by not vaccinating

> Ezekiel I would PROVE that vaccines cause autism. As it is, it

appears

> I proved the exact opposite.

>

> Warm Regards,

>

> Charlene Pagac