Re: Please help! What to do when your child stops eating???

December 15, 2009

so he didn't eat for 3 months? what was he having durring those times?

We did try it two times, cold turkey for 3 months at a time and he wouldn't eat. He would rather starve. Not every child is the same. > > >> > > Hello group,> > >> > > We have a 4 year old that we started the GFCF diet back in July. He > > > eats very little meat and no fruits or veggies at all. He used to > > > drink juice and I was able to hide vitamins in his juice but he > > > figured it out after a few weeks and now stopped drinking juice > > > altogether. I then tried hiding the vitamins in his ketchup and that > > > lasted about 2 weeks. He literally stop eating now with the > > > exception of gorilla cereal, pretzels and potato chips. That's it! > > > Nothing else. He will only drink water so I can't really hide any > > > vitamins, enzymes or probiotics in anything. I baked muffins and > > > cookies for him and he refused to try any of them. I also tried > > > smoothies and milkshakes with no luck as well. I have tried to > > > syringe the vitamins, enzymes, and probiotics but have been > > > unsuccessful -- he will not give in even with my husband holding him > > > down with his head unable to move for over 30 minutes -- he is able > > > to keep the liquid in the back of his throat and not swallow, and > > > eventually succeeds in pushing it over the side of his mouth and out > > > of his mouth! He is very strong considering he doesn't eat much!> > >> > > I am at the point where I feel we need to put the gluten back into > > > his diet to get food in his body, but I really don't want to. Does > > > anyone have any advice as to what we should do? About 2 months ago, > > > we experienced the same thing and we held out for as long as we > > > could and he was very stubborn and would not give in. Finally, he > > > became very lethargic and we had to give in and gave him Popeye's > > > chicken.> > >> > > I have spoken to our DAN! doctor and was told to try the Brainchild > > > Nutritionals Ultra sensitive vitamins with him and we still don't > > > any luck it that either.> > >> > > Sorry for the long email. Any advice at all is greatly appreciated.> > >> > > Thanks in advance!> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> >>

December 15, 2009

so he didn't eat for 3 months? what was he having durring those times?

Re: Please help! What to do when your child stops eating???

We did try it two times, cold turkey for 3 months at a time and he wouldn't eat. He would rather starve. Not every child is the same. > > >> > > Hello group,> > >> > > We have a 4 year old that we started the GFCF diet back in July. He > > > eats very little meat and no fruits or veggies at all. He used to > > > drink juice and I was able to hide vitamins in his juice but he > > > figured it out after a few weeks and now stopped drinking juice > > > altogether. I then tried hiding the vitamins in his ketchup and that > > > lasted about 2 weeks. He literally stop eating now with the > > > exception of gorilla cereal, pretzels and potato chips. That's it! > > > Nothing else. He will only drink water so I can't really hide any > > > vitamins, enzymes or probiotics in anything. I baked muffins and > > > cookies for him and he refused to try any of them. I also tried > > > smoothies and milkshakes with no luck as well. I have tried to > > > syringe the vitamins, enzymes, and probiotics but have been > > > unsuccessful -- he will not give in even with my husband holding him > > > down with his head unable to move for over 30 minutes -- he is able > > > to keep the liquid in the back of his throat and not swallow, and > > > eventually succeeds in pushing it over the side of his mouth and out > > > of his mouth! He is very strong considering he doesn't eat much!> > >> > > I am at the point where I feel we need to put the gluten back into > > > his diet to get food in his body, but I really don't want to. Does > > > anyone have any advice as to what we should do? About 2 months ago, > > > we experienced the same thing and we held out for as long as we > > > could and he was very stubborn and would not give in. Finally, he > > > became very lethargic and we had to give in and gave him Popeye's > > > chicken.> > >> > > I have spoken to our DAN! doctor and was told to try the Brainchild > > > Nutritionals Ultra sensitive vitamins with him and we still don't > > > any luck it that either.> > >> > > Sorry for the long email. Any advice at all is greatly appreciated.> > >> > > Thanks in advance!> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> >>

December 15, 2009

so he didn't eat for 3 months? what was he having durring those times?

Re: Please help! What to do when your child stops eating???

We did try it two times, cold turkey for 3 months at a time and he wouldn't eat. He would rather starve. Not every child is the same. > > >> > > Hello group,> > >> > > We have a 4 year old that we started the GFCF diet back in July. He > > > eats very little meat and no fruits or veggies at all. He used to > > > drink juice and I was able to hide vitamins in his juice but he > > > figured it out after a few weeks and now stopped drinking juice > > > altogether. I then tried hiding the vitamins in his ketchup and that > > > lasted about 2 weeks. He literally stop eating now with the > > > exception of gorilla cereal, pretzels and potato chips. That's it! > > > Nothing else. He will only drink water so I can't really hide any > > > vitamins, enzymes or probiotics in anything. I baked muffins and > > > cookies for him and he refused to try any of them. I also tried > > > smoothies and milkshakes with no luck as well. I have tried to > > > syringe the vitamins, enzymes, and probiotics but have been > > > unsuccessful -- he will not give in even with my husband holding him > > > down with his head unable to move for over 30 minutes -- he is able > > > to keep the liquid in the back of his throat and not swallow, and > > > eventually succeeds in pushing it over the side of his mouth and out > > > of his mouth! He is very strong considering he doesn't eat much!> > >> > > I am at the point where I feel we need to put the gluten back into > > > his diet to get food in his body, but I really don't want to. Does > > > anyone have any advice as to what we should do? About 2 months ago, > > > we experienced the same thing and we held out for as long as we > > > could and he was very stubborn and would not give in. Finally, he > > > became very lethargic and we had to give in and gave him Popeye's > > > chicken.> > >> > > I have spoken to our DAN! doctor and was told to try the Brainchild > > > Nutritionals Ultra sensitive vitamins with him and we still don't > > > any luck it that either.> > >> > > Sorry for the long email. Any advice at all is greatly appreciated.> > >> > > Thanks in advance!> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> >>

December 15, 2009

You would be amazed how long we can go without food.

Subject: Re: Re: Please help! What to do when your child stops eating???To: mb12 valtrex Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 12:11 PM

so he didn't eat for 3 months? what was he having durring those times?

Re: Please help! What to do when your child stops eating???

We did try it two times, cold turkey for 3 months at a time and he wouldn't eat. He would rather starve. Not every child is the same. > > >> > > Hello group,> > >> > > We have a 4 year old that we started the GFCF diet back in July. He > > > eats very little meat and no fruits or veggies at all. He used to > > > drink

juice and I was able to hide vitamins in his juice but he > > > figured it out after a few weeks and now stopped drinking juice > > > altogether. I then tried hiding the vitamins in his ketchup and that > > > lasted about 2 weeks. He literally stop eating now with the > > > exception of gorilla cereal, pretzels and potato chips. That's it! > > > Nothing else. He will only drink water so I can't really hide any > > > vitamins, enzymes or probiotics in anything. I baked muffins and > > > cookies for him and he refused to try any of them. I also tried > > > smoothies and milkshakes with no luck as well. I have tried to > > > syringe the vitamins, enzymes, and probiotics but have been > > > unsuccessful -- he will not give in even with my husband holding him > > > down with his head unable to move for over 30 minutes

-- he is able > > > to keep the liquid in the back of his throat and not swallow, and > > > eventually succeeds in pushing it over the side of his mouth and out > > > of his mouth! He is very strong considering he doesn't eat much!> > >> > > I am at the point where I feel we need to put the gluten back into > > > his diet to get food in his body, but I really don't want to. Does > > > anyone have any advice as to what we should do? About 2 months ago, > > > we experienced the same thing and we held out for as long as we > > > could and he was very stubborn and would not give in. Finally, he > > > became very lethargic and we had to give in and gave him Popeye's > > > chicken.> > >> > > I have spoken to our DAN! doctor and was told to try the Brainchild > > > Nutritionals

Ultra sensitive vitamins with him and we still don't > > > any luck it that either.> > >> > > Sorry for the long email. Any advice at all is greatly appreciated.> > >> > > Thanks in advance!> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> >>

December 15, 2009

You would be amazed how long we can go without food.

Subject: Re: Re: Please help! What to do when your child stops eating???To: mb12 valtrex Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 12:11 PM

so he didn't eat for 3 months? what was he having durring those times?

Re: Please help! What to do when your child stops eating???

We did try it two times, cold turkey for 3 months at a time and he wouldn't eat. He would rather starve. Not every child is the same. > > >> > > Hello group,> > >> > > We have a 4 year old that we started the GFCF diet back in July. He > > > eats very little meat and no fruits or veggies at all. He used to > > > drink

juice and I was able to hide vitamins in his juice but he > > > figured it out after a few weeks and now stopped drinking juice > > > altogether. I then tried hiding the vitamins in his ketchup and that > > > lasted about 2 weeks. He literally stop eating now with the > > > exception of gorilla cereal, pretzels and potato chips. That's it! > > > Nothing else. He will only drink water so I can't really hide any > > > vitamins, enzymes or probiotics in anything. I baked muffins and > > > cookies for him and he refused to try any of them. I also tried > > > smoothies and milkshakes with no luck as well. I have tried to > > > syringe the vitamins, enzymes, and probiotics but have been > > > unsuccessful -- he will not give in even with my husband holding him > > > down with his head unable to move for over 30 minutes

-- he is able > > > to keep the liquid in the back of his throat and not swallow, and > > > eventually succeeds in pushing it over the side of his mouth and out > > > of his mouth! He is very strong considering he doesn't eat much!> > >> > > I am at the point where I feel we need to put the gluten back into > > > his diet to get food in his body, but I really don't want to. Does > > > anyone have any advice as to what we should do? About 2 months ago, > > > we experienced the same thing and we held out for as long as we > > > could and he was very stubborn and would not give in. Finally, he > > > became very lethargic and we had to give in and gave him Popeye's > > > chicken.> > >> > > I have spoken to our DAN! doctor and was told to try the Brainchild > > > Nutritionals

Ultra sensitive vitamins with him and we still don't > > > any luck it that either.> > >> > > Sorry for the long email. Any advice at all is greatly appreciated.> > >> > > Thanks in advance!> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> >>

December 15, 2009

You would be amazed how long we can go without food.

Subject: Re: Re: Please help! What to do when your child stops eating???To: mb12 valtrex Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 12:11 PM

so he didn't eat for 3 months? what was he having durring those times?

Re: Please help! What to do when your child stops eating???

We did try it two times, cold turkey for 3 months at a time and he wouldn't eat. He would rather starve. Not every child is the same. > > >> > > Hello group,> > >> > > We have a 4 year old that we started the GFCF diet back in July. He > > > eats very little meat and no fruits or veggies at all. He used to > > > drink

juice and I was able to hide vitamins in his juice but he > > > figured it out after a few weeks and now stopped drinking juice > > > altogether. I then tried hiding the vitamins in his ketchup and that > > > lasted about 2 weeks. He literally stop eating now with the > > > exception of gorilla cereal, pretzels and potato chips. That's it! > > > Nothing else. He will only drink water so I can't really hide any > > > vitamins, enzymes or probiotics in anything. I baked muffins and > > > cookies for him and he refused to try any of them. I also tried > > > smoothies and milkshakes with no luck as well. I have tried to > > > syringe the vitamins, enzymes, and probiotics but have been > > > unsuccessful -- he will not give in even with my husband holding him > > > down with his head unable to move for over 30 minutes

-- he is able > > > to keep the liquid in the back of his throat and not swallow, and > > > eventually succeeds in pushing it over the side of his mouth and out > > > of his mouth! He is very strong considering he doesn't eat much!> > >> > > I am at the point where I feel we need to put the gluten back into > > > his diet to get food in his body, but I really don't want to. Does > > > anyone have any advice as to what we should do? About 2 months ago, > > > we experienced the same thing and we held out for as long as we > > > could and he was very stubborn and would not give in. Finally, he > > > became very lethargic and we had to give in and gave him Popeye's > > > chicken.> > >> > > I have spoken to our DAN! doctor and was told to try the Brainchild > > > Nutritionals

Ultra sensitive vitamins with him and we still don't > > > any luck it that either.> > >> > > Sorry for the long email. Any advice at all is greatly appreciated.> > >> > > Thanks in advance!> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> >>

December 15, 2009

Yes but usually you just refuse to eat it,if it doesn't appeal to you on a sensory level.The negative sensory overload from eating an unpleasant tasting food is very strong,so you just avoid it.This gets back to what I was saying about going weeks without food.This may be why so many autistics,like myself,are so insanely underdeveloped.I didn't really grow in height until my 20s and 30s.

Subject: Re: Please help! What to do when your child stops eating???To: mb12 valtrex Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 7:32 PM

what kind of chips? what pretzels. first thought is you have a child with yeast issues with what they are or eating OR there is an opiate they are still getting from these foods or something they are allergic to. when they limit that is a first sign that it's something they SHOULDN"T have, pull them and try the foods you WANT them to eat, veggies, fruits, meats, they WILL protest at first but getting them on food with nutrition is vital for a healthy body!

Please help! What to do when your child stops eating???

Hello group,We have a 4 year old that we started the GFCF diet back in July. He eats very little meat and no fruits or veggies at all. He used to drink juice and I was able to hide vitamins in his juice but he figured it out after a few weeks and now stopped drinking juice altogether. I then tried hiding the vitamins in his ketchup and that lasted about 2 weeks. He literally stop eating now with the exception of gorilla cereal, pretzels and potato chips. That's it! Nothing else. He will only drink water so I can't really hide any vitamins, enzymes or probiotics in anything. I baked muffins and cookies for him and he refused to try any of them. I also tried smoothies and milkshakes with no luck as well. I have tried to syringe the vitamins, enzymes, and probiotics but have been unsuccessful -- he will not give in even with my husband holding him down with his head unable to move for over 30 minutes -- he is able to keep the liquid in the back

of his throat and not swallow, and eventually succeeds in pushing it over the side of his mouth and out of his mouth! He is very strong considering he doesn't eat much!I am at the point where I feel we need to put the gluten back into his diet to get food in his body, but I really don't want to. Does anyone have any advice as to what we should do? About 2 months ago, we experienced the same thing and we held out for as long as we could and he was very stubborn and would not give in. Finally, he became very lethargic and we had to give in and gave him Popeye's chicken.I have spoken to our DAN! doctor and was told to try the Brainchild Nutritionals Ultra sensitive vitamins with him and we still don't any luck it that either.Sorry for the long email. Any advice at all is greatly appreciated.Thanks in advance!

December 15, 2009

Yes but usually you just refuse to eat it,if it doesn't appeal to you on a sensory level.The negative sensory overload from eating an unpleasant tasting food is very strong,so you just avoid it.This gets back to what I was saying about going weeks without food.This may be why so many autistics,like myself,are so insanely underdeveloped.I didn't really grow in height until my 20s and 30s.

Subject: Re: Please help! What to do when your child stops eating???To: mb12 valtrex Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 7:32 PM

what kind of chips? what pretzels. first thought is you have a child with yeast issues with what they are or eating OR there is an opiate they are still getting from these foods or something they are allergic to. when they limit that is a first sign that it's something they SHOULDN"T have, pull them and try the foods you WANT them to eat, veggies, fruits, meats, they WILL protest at first but getting them on food with nutrition is vital for a healthy body!

Please help! What to do when your child stops eating???

Hello group,We have a 4 year old that we started the GFCF diet back in July. He eats very little meat and no fruits or veggies at all. He used to drink juice and I was able to hide vitamins in his juice but he figured it out after a few weeks and now stopped drinking juice altogether. I then tried hiding the vitamins in his ketchup and that lasted about 2 weeks. He literally stop eating now with the exception of gorilla cereal, pretzels and potato chips. That's it! Nothing else. He will only drink water so I can't really hide any vitamins, enzymes or probiotics in anything. I baked muffins and cookies for him and he refused to try any of them. I also tried smoothies and milkshakes with no luck as well. I have tried to syringe the vitamins, enzymes, and probiotics but have been unsuccessful -- he will not give in even with my husband holding him down with his head unable to move for over 30 minutes -- he is able to keep the liquid in the back

of his throat and not swallow, and eventually succeeds in pushing it over the side of his mouth and out of his mouth! He is very strong considering he doesn't eat much!I am at the point where I feel we need to put the gluten back into his diet to get food in his body, but I really don't want to. Does anyone have any advice as to what we should do? About 2 months ago, we experienced the same thing and we held out for as long as we could and he was very stubborn and would not give in. Finally, he became very lethargic and we had to give in and gave him Popeye's chicken.I have spoken to our DAN! doctor and was told to try the Brainchild Nutritionals Ultra sensitive vitamins with him and we still don't any luck it that either.Sorry for the long email. Any advice at all is greatly appreciated.Thanks in advance!

December 15, 2009

Yes but usually you just refuse to eat it,if it doesn't appeal to you on a sensory level.The negative sensory overload from eating an unpleasant tasting food is very strong,so you just avoid it.This gets back to what I was saying about going weeks without food.This may be why so many autistics,like myself,are so insanely underdeveloped.I didn't really grow in height until my 20s and 30s.

Subject: Re: Please help! What to do when your child stops eating???To: mb12 valtrex Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 7:32 PM

what kind of chips? what pretzels. first thought is you have a child with yeast issues with what they are or eating OR there is an opiate they are still getting from these foods or something they are allergic to. when they limit that is a first sign that it's something they SHOULDN"T have, pull them and try the foods you WANT them to eat, veggies, fruits, meats, they WILL protest at first but getting them on food with nutrition is vital for a healthy body!

Please help! What to do when your child stops eating???

Hello group,We have a 4 year old that we started the GFCF diet back in July. He eats very little meat and no fruits or veggies at all. He used to drink juice and I was able to hide vitamins in his juice but he figured it out after a few weeks and now stopped drinking juice altogether. I then tried hiding the vitamins in his ketchup and that lasted about 2 weeks. He literally stop eating now with the exception of gorilla cereal, pretzels and potato chips. That's it! Nothing else. He will only drink water so I can't really hide any vitamins, enzymes or probiotics in anything. I baked muffins and cookies for him and he refused to try any of them. I also tried smoothies and milkshakes with no luck as well. I have tried to syringe the vitamins, enzymes, and probiotics but have been unsuccessful -- he will not give in even with my husband holding him down with his head unable to move for over 30 minutes -- he is able to keep the liquid in the back

of his throat and not swallow, and eventually succeeds in pushing it over the side of his mouth and out of his mouth! He is very strong considering he doesn't eat much!I am at the point where I feel we need to put the gluten back into his diet to get food in his body, but I really don't want to. Does anyone have any advice as to what we should do? About 2 months ago, we experienced the same thing and we held out for as long as we could and he was very stubborn and would not give in. Finally, he became very lethargic and we had to give in and gave him Popeye's chicken.I have spoken to our DAN! doctor and was told to try the Brainchild Nutritionals Ultra sensitive vitamins with him and we still don't any luck it that either.Sorry for the long email. Any advice at all is greatly appreciated.Thanks in advance!

December 15, 2009

I am looking for a new brand of enzymes,as I can't get the ones I've been using anymore.

Suggestions?

Subject: Re: Please help! What to do when your child stops eating???To: mb12 valtrex Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 2:18 PM

Hi ,I have tried to put the digestive enzymes into my son's ketchup yesterday. He figured it out and stopped eating the ketchup now. He is definitely very stubborn. I am able to get my older ASD son to take his chewable enzymes but my 4 year old ASD child is extremely tough and extremely taste sensitive. He will get very angry if I dip his chips into the ketchup. He will throw his foods and everything else on the table across the room. He has a very bad temper and he will go into a very bad meltdown. I am going to try again later with his favorite forbidden food along with the enzymes. I will try to bribe him but I know it will be tough since he doesn't take bribery very well either. I hope I can break his stubbornness. He is totally opposite from his older brother. The neurodevelopmental program you mentioned below is that something the school system offers or is that through a hospital or some specalist?Thanks for your advice

and for sharing your experience.>> Hi ,> > I have three ASD children and have had similar feeding issues. Do you think you could get him to take digestive enzymes? Then you could give him some forbidden foods just for nutrition and not completely blow the diet. There are chewables, capsule or bulk powder forms. Two of my kids will now take the chewables... and one I still have to put the enzyme powder in some food or juice. The use of enzymes could help you transition easier into the diet. You might even be able to bribe him into taking the enzyme in order to get a certain food. This actually helped me break some of the stubbornness with one child. The other

thing that helped us a lot was our neurodevelopmental program. We had to do a lot of oral stim exercises as well as taste stimulation. Hope that helps.> > >

December 15, 2009

I am looking for a new brand of enzymes,as I can't get the ones I've been using anymore.

Suggestions?

Subject: Re: Please help! What to do when your child stops eating???To: mb12 valtrex Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 2:18 PM

Hi ,I have tried to put the digestive enzymes into my son's ketchup yesterday. He figured it out and stopped eating the ketchup now. He is definitely very stubborn. I am able to get my older ASD son to take his chewable enzymes but my 4 year old ASD child is extremely tough and extremely taste sensitive. He will get very angry if I dip his chips into the ketchup. He will throw his foods and everything else on the table across the room. He has a very bad temper and he will go into a very bad meltdown. I am going to try again later with his favorite forbidden food along with the enzymes. I will try to bribe him but I know it will be tough since he doesn't take bribery very well either. I hope I can break his stubbornness. He is totally opposite from his older brother. The neurodevelopmental program you mentioned below is that something the school system offers or is that through a hospital or some specalist?Thanks for your advice

and for sharing your experience.>> Hi ,> > I have three ASD children and have had similar feeding issues. Do you think you could get him to take digestive enzymes? Then you could give him some forbidden foods just for nutrition and not completely blow the diet. There are chewables, capsule or bulk powder forms. Two of my kids will now take the chewables... and one I still have to put the enzyme powder in some food or juice. The use of enzymes could help you transition easier into the diet. You might even be able to bribe him into taking the enzyme in order to get a certain food. This actually helped me break some of the stubbornness with one child. The other

thing that helped us a lot was our neurodevelopmental program. We had to do a lot of oral stim exercises as well as taste stimulation. Hope that helps.> > >

December 15, 2009

I am looking for a new brand of enzymes,as I can't get the ones I've been using anymore.

Suggestions?

Subject: Re: Please help! What to do when your child stops eating???To: mb12 valtrex Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 2:18 PM

Hi ,I have tried to put the digestive enzymes into my son's ketchup yesterday. He figured it out and stopped eating the ketchup now. He is definitely very stubborn. I am able to get my older ASD son to take his chewable enzymes but my 4 year old ASD child is extremely tough and extremely taste sensitive. He will get very angry if I dip his chips into the ketchup. He will throw his foods and everything else on the table across the room. He has a very bad temper and he will go into a very bad meltdown. I am going to try again later with his favorite forbidden food along with the enzymes. I will try to bribe him but I know it will be tough since he doesn't take bribery very well either. I hope I can break his stubbornness. He is totally opposite from his older brother. The neurodevelopmental program you mentioned below is that something the school system offers or is that through a hospital or some specalist?Thanks for your advice

and for sharing your experience.>> Hi ,> > I have three ASD children and have had similar feeding issues. Do you think you could get him to take digestive enzymes? Then you could give him some forbidden foods just for nutrition and not completely blow the diet. There are chewables, capsule or bulk powder forms. Two of my kids will now take the chewables... and one I still have to put the enzyme powder in some food or juice. The use of enzymes could help you transition easier into the diet. You might even be able to bribe him into taking the enzyme in order to get a certain food. This actually helped me break some of the stubbornness with one child. The other

thing that helped us a lot was our neurodevelopmental program. We had to do a lot of oral stim exercises as well as taste stimulation. Hope that helps.> > >

December 15, 2009

Hi , have you tried Betaine HCl with meals? That works well. Also Klaire's

Serenaid is the enzyme we use, I like it.

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > I have three ASD children and have had similar feeding issues. Do you think

you could get him to take digestive enzymes? Then you could give him some

forbidden foods just for nutrition and not completely blow the diet. There are

chewables, capsule or bulk powder forms. Two of my kids will now take the

chewables... and one I still have to put the enzyme powder in some food or

juice. The use of enzymes could help you transition easier into the diet. You

might even be able to bribe him into taking the enzyme in order to get a certain

food. This actually helped me break some of the stubbornness with one child. The

other thing that helped us a lot was our neurodevelopmental program. We had to

do a lot of oral stim exercises as well as taste stimulation. Hope that helps.

> >

>

December 15, 2009