Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Hi , My name is Kim and my son Dylan is almost 8. He has no hearing and limited vision, and he has swallowing difficulties so he is still tube fed. He has no other major medical stuff, but lots of little things that indicate his nervous system is not wired quite right. With the old way of diagnosing CHARGE, docs believed that all kids with CHARGE had mental retardation. Now we know that is NOT TRUE! There are no assessments to accurately measure cognition in a child with combined vision and hearing loss (Professionally known as deafblindness), so the test results are not accurate. Each child with CHARGE develops a bit differently, but I think all have far greater intellectual capacity than we give them credit for. Some kids are verbal (or sign) and in regular classrooms with support for their vision or hearing loss. Others learn formal language later, but are still very cognizant before that. I think a lot of it also is finding the right experts to help our children. For us learning early about the field of deafblindness was important. Even though it is a scary word, it simply refers to a child with a hearing loss and a vision loss. Experts in this field understand the impact of this combined loss and have strategies to help our children learn. Most states have a deafblind project for support. Later we learned that in addition to having colobomas, Dylan's brain was also not understanding everything he saw. We have been working on these processing issues for about a year and he has made great progress. Dylan has had a hard time learning formal language, even though we started sign language with him at 3 months. (I think because of the processing problems, but who really knows) Even without words we can tell he understands many concepts and is an excellent problem solver. For me having a child who was Deaf was okay, but the thought of not being able to communicate with him was horrifying. Now I am happy to say that even without words, we communicate very well together and are very connected. It is different than with my other kids, but not in a bad way. Dylan is very happy and does not seem at all to mind his life. It is the only life he has ever known and he is happy. I decided early on that instead of feeling bad for Dylan because he could not hear music or could not do (fill in the blank) I would grieve with him, if he ever grieved those things. It frees me up to be happy now right along with him. My oldest son has Inattentive ADD and learning disabilities. I have also had a child die at birth and a miscarriage and yes sometimes I wonder what did I do during my pregnancies that could have lead to such a bad track record, but I know in reality that none of them were a result of anything I did or didn't do, just the luck of the genes and timing. (I do have a happy, healthy 13yo daughter too). I also prefer the more natural approaches to dealing with Dylan's chronic problems, such as the low tone, abdominal migraines, chronic constipation, etc. We take him for cranial sacral therapy, which I believe has helped him in so many ways. I still work closely with his medical doctors for acute problems, but the long term stuff there is not much they can do. I am glad you found the list and hope you find some comfort and support here. Kim L Mom to Dylan 7 CHaRGE, Kayla 13, Tyler 16, wife to Roy Tucson, AZ > Hello all, > > My name is and my younger son was given the CHARGE label > when he was about 3 days old. He is 8 1/2 months now, with a big brother > getting > ready to turn 4. We're a Navy family, and we just moved to land. I'm still > getting settled in with our specialists after leaving some really great > doctors behind in Virginia Beach. I really struggled with some PPD after > > was born, and I'm still really sensitive about him. I worry every day about > what > his life will be like, if he'll be lonely or unhappy. I'm sure most of you > know what I mean. I also worry about this happening to us again. We really > want > more kids, but right now I don't even know how we would cope with any more > medical issues. > > Luckily, from what I've read about CHARGE, is doing really well. He > has coloboma in both eyes, visible in one pupil, further back in the other > eye. > He has some nystagmus (shaky eyes) but they think he can actually see > decently. He loves to look at lights, that is for sure. He had his Tetrology > of > Fallot repaired on Thanksgiving, and is hopefully coming off of the heart > medicine > in the next month or two. He doesn't have any facial or throat issues and > amazingly has been able to breastfeed, which is so wonderful. He is small for > his > age (25 1/2 in and 15 lb) but he was also born at 36 weeks. He's got low > muscle tone, so sometimes it seems like he isn't doing much of anything. He's > slowly getting stronger, can hold his head up pretty well on his tummy and > will > hold some toys. He loves to suck his thumb. He's got some funny endocrine > stuff, > including adrenal insufficiency and he was hypoglycemic but that seems to have > gone away. He is doing testosterone shots right now for micropenis (I HATE > that word!) and undescended testes. He also wears hearing aids for a mild to > moderate hearing loss caused by a Mondini malformation in both ears. He has > never > had an ear infection though, which is great. Obviously, he got some major > developmental delays, but we have no idea yet what his cognitive ability is or > will be. > > I have so many questions for other people that have been through this period > already. I am kind of confused as to how low muscle tone will affect him and > what physical therapy is supposed to do. I have come to terms with his > physical > stuff, and I feel like I can handle all of that. But I am absolutely > terrified of him having any sort of intellectual limitations. It's a real > stmbling > block for me, so I would love to hear from any of you about how you deal with > all > of this and what life is like after the baby period is over. His differences > are just starting to be apparent to strangers, and it makes me so sad to do > those stupid developmental checklists at the doctors office. > > I'm a pretty natural, non-interventionist person, so all of this medical > stuff has been very taxing. Does it ever slow down? > > And finally, my older son has been mysteriously, but not too severely, > delayed, mostly in his speech. I feel a lot like I must have done soemthing > wrong! > Anyone else have another child with special needs, either CHARGE or something > else? > > Now that I've dumped all of that, please email me! I am a wreck! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Kim, Thanks for your support. I keep trying to be positive since has been getting help since he was born. It is just scary to have no idea how he will develop, you know? It is nice to hear that families find ways to get around stuff though. You said that your son has low muscle tone. What sort of things did you find helpful for that? Did craniosacral therapy help? Our insurance will cover regular PT, OT, speech, but we have to go through the Early Intervention people first. We're right in the middle of that process, but had to redo everything when we moved. Just curious about low tone stuff... mom to (CHaRGE, 8 mos and 3 1/2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Lori, I feel pretty happy that has mostly good days. He's not seeming to suffer at this point. It's looking like he doesn't have any of the chronic pain sort of issues, thankfully. I do wonder if he is bored sometimes, not being able to move very well. I actually have been on Zoloft since he was a week old and just recently weaned off of it. One of those side effects were getting a bit difficult! I'm definetly better on the actual depression front, but I am greiving the child I thought I would have. Does that make sense? I'm really curious as to how things go for you having a younger child after your CHARGEr. We don't plan on even trying to conceive until is done nursing, probably at least 2. But I often get from people, " How will you care for a baby AND ? " In my heart I feel like that isn't a fair statement. People with disabled kids have babies all the time. But in my head, I wonder that too. Do you find that they are on the same/similar level? I will certainly read that book...Thanks. mom to (CHaRGE 8 mo) and 3 1/2, wife to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 , I have seen Kennedy! I think the info I saw on this particular site was pretty old, so I can't wait to see her now. It's great that she is doing so well. Your story about her newborn days really hit me. I hated being apart from . I think I actually read about Kennedy during Hurricane Isabel, when was in NICU and I was trapped at home! Those stupid checklists make me crazy. I think we've established by now that he will be delayed! Why keep emphasizing that? I hate those things for " normal " kids too! We actually are planning on homeschooling our kids, blending in whatever professional help we may need for . This may seem oversimplified, but I really just want him to be able to play! When did you find that Kennedy was able to play with toys and sit up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 My heart goes out to you. Our first year with was the most difficult. I had my " breakdown " at around 9 months - maybe that's when it all sinks in. After almost 4 years, it's not so bad, and frequently my husband and I say, " we've got it pretty good. " We have a 6 year old, , with Charge who is 3, and Emma (and unexpected blessing) who will be 2 in October. Life is crazy and busy and frustrating--but good! I hate seeing suffer and when I can't figure out what is getting her I go a little crazy, but all in all, it is good. A good day makes it all worth while....and 's first 15 months were only filled with a handful of good days! Now most days are good! Hang in there, it will get better. I also remember a depression associated with the possibility of mental delays, I got over it and now I just want her to be a happy kid--which she is. It helps me to think that some people in this world are here just to add beauty--and maybe is one of those. And typically, it is not the kid that grieves for normalcy, it is the family. This is a wonderful group for support. I also recommend a book called " Changed by a Child. " I fought antidepressants but now I would have started them the day was born--they helped even out the anger and helped me to be more patient with . (I prefer non-medical ways too.....but Zoloft has really helped me!) Good luck and keep reaching out! Lori Myers Mom to (6), , (CHARGE 3), and Emma (1 1/2) Dallas Texas New to group, need support BADLY > Hello all, > > My name is and my younger son was given the CHARGE label > when he was about 3 days old. He is 8 1/2 months now, with a big brother getting > ready to turn 4. We're a Navy family, and we just moved to land. I'm still > getting settled in with our specialists after leaving some really great > doctors behind in Virginia Beach. I really struggled with some PPD after > was born, and I'm still really sensitive about him. I worry every day about what > his life will be like, if he'll be lonely or unhappy. I'm sure most of you > know what I mean. I also worry about this happening to us again. We really want > more kids, but right now I don't even know how we would cope with any more > medical issues. > > Luckily, from what I've read about CHARGE, is doing really well. He > has coloboma in both eyes, visible in one pupil, further back in the other eye. > He has some nystagmus (shaky eyes) but they think he can actually see > decently. He loves to look at lights, that is for sure. He had his Tetrology of > Fallot repaired on Thanksgiving, and is hopefully coming off of the heart medicine > in the next month or two. He doesn't have any facial or throat issues and > amazingly has been able to breastfeed, which is so wonderful. He is small for his > age (25 1/2 in and 15 lb) but he was also born at 36 weeks. He's got low > muscle tone, so sometimes it seems like he isn't doing much of anything. He's > slowly getting stronger, can hold his head up pretty well on his tummy and will > hold some toys. He loves to suck his thumb. He's got some funny endocrine stuff, > including adrenal insufficiency and he was hypoglycemic but that seems to have > gone away. He is doing testosterone shots right now for micropenis (I HATE > that word!) and undescended testes. He also wears hearing aids for a mild to > moderate hearing loss caused by a Mondini malformation in both ears. He has never > had an ear infection though, which is great. Obviously, he got some major > developmental delays, but we have no idea yet what his cognitive ability is or > will be. > > I have so many questions for other people that have been through this period > already. I am kind of confused as to how low muscle tone will affect him and > what physical therapy is supposed to do. I have come to terms with his physical > stuff, and I feel like I can handle all of that. But I am absolutely > terrified of him having any sort of intellectual limitations. It's a real stmbling > block for me, so I would love to hear from any of you about how you deal with all > of this and what life is like after the baby period is over. His differences > are just starting to be apparent to strangers, and it makes me so sad to do > those stupid developmental checklists at the doctors office. > > I'm a pretty natural, non-interventionist person, so all of this medical > stuff has been very taxing. Does it ever slow down? > > And finally, my older son has been mysteriously, but not too severely, > delayed, mostly in his speech. I feel a lot like I must have done soemthing wrong! > Anyone else have another child with special needs, either CHARGE or something > else? > > Now that I've dumped all of that, please email me! I am a wreck! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 --welcome, I don't have alot of time right now--sorry but I'll write more over the week-end. IT does get better....if your son is anything like mine and most chargers--he'll amaze you!! you have come to the right place for support and help, wish I could say more but the bus is coming soon and the other two will be up and needing to be helped get ready too. have a great week-end. mom to timmy ChARGE 8 1/2 , keegan 6, liam 3, wife to pat burg, NJ New to group, need support BADLY > Hello all, > > My name is and my younger son was given the CHARGE label > when he was about 3 days old. He is 8 1/2 months now, with a big brother getting > ready to turn 4. We're a Navy family, and we just moved to land. I'm still > getting settled in with our specialists after leaving some really great > doctors behind in Virginia Beach. I really struggled with some PPD after > was born, and I'm still really sensitive about him. I worry every day about what > his life will be like, if he'll be lonely or unhappy. I'm sure most of you > know what I mean. I also worry about this happening to us again. We really want > more kids, but right now I don't even know how we would cope with any more > medical issues. > > Luckily, from what I've read about CHARGE, is doing really well. He > has coloboma in both eyes, visible in one pupil, further back in the other eye. > He has some nystagmus (shaky eyes) but they think he can actually see > decently. He loves to look at lights, that is for sure. He had his Tetrology of > Fallot repaired on Thanksgiving, and is hopefully coming off of the heart medicine > in the next month or two. He doesn't have any facial or throat issues and > amazingly has been able to breastfeed, which is so wonderful. He is small for his > age (25 1/2 in and 15 lb) but he was also born at 36 weeks. He's got low > muscle tone, so sometimes it seems like he isn't doing much of anything. He's > slowly getting stronger, can hold his head up pretty well on his tummy and will > hold some toys. He loves to suck his thumb. He's got some funny endocrine stuff, > including adrenal insufficiency and he was hypoglycemic but that seems to have > gone away. He is doing testosterone shots right now for micropenis (I HATE > that word!) and undescended testes. He also wears hearing aids for a mild to > moderate hearing loss caused by a Mondini malformation in both ears. He has never > had an ear infection though, which is great. Obviously, he got some major > developmental delays, but we have no idea yet what his cognitive ability is or > will be. > > I have so many questions for other people that have been through this period > already. I am kind of confused as to how low muscle tone will affect him and > what physical therapy is supposed to do. I have come to terms with his physical > stuff, and I feel like I can handle all of that. But I am absolutely > terrified of him having any sort of intellectual limitations. It's a real stmbling > block for me, so I would love to hear from any of you about how you deal with all > of this and what life is like after the baby period is over. His differences > are just starting to be apparent to strangers, and it makes me so sad to do > those stupid developmental checklists at the doctors office. > > I'm a pretty natural, non-interventionist person, so all of this medical > stuff has been very taxing. Does it ever slow down? > > And finally, my older son has been mysteriously, but not too severely, > delayed, mostly in his speech. I feel a lot like I must have done soemthing wrong! > Anyone else have another child with special needs, either CHARGE or something > else? > > Now that I've dumped all of that, please email me! I am a wreck! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 , First bit of advice - THROW OUT THOSE STUPID DEVELOPMENTAL checklists! Kids with CHARGE do things on their own timeline. I remember when my Kennedy was at the same point with the low muscle tone, not seeming to do anything and everyone said " they seem to go for a long time not doing anything and then have this big spurt of development. " I had a hard time believing that (mostly because I can be really impatient!) but now my little princess goes to regular kindergarten, dance class, birthday parties, swimming, you name it, she does it. If you want to see her, visit http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/gweir/kennedy.html As for the intellectual issues, I've come to realize that EVERYONE can learn, they just might learn in different ways. Kennedy keeps right up with her class now and is above average in some areas (reading) but behind in others (concepts). Every accomplishment means so much, I realize she may not always learn the same curriculum at the same pace but she does and CAN learn. It's hard because I think your is in one of those lulls, but I will tell you the same thing the other parents told me, he will come but it will be on HIS timeline, no one elses. It's hard to realize, but things do come along. Weir Mom to Kennedy, 6 yr old with CHARGE, 14 1/2, 13 and wife to Graeme New Brunswick, Canada http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/gweir > > From: ShKendra@... > Date: 2004/05/28 Fri AM 12:53:27 ADT > To: CHARGE > Subject: New to group, need support BADLY > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Welcome to the group. The feelings that you have are so very normal. What part of Mayland are you in? I am in Pennsylvania, so not to far away. I also went through severe PPD after having my daughter, Vicky. She will be five in September. She also had tetrology of Fallot, repaired at 10 mos of age. She is off all cardiac meds now and doing very well. She has bilaterally coloboma, her right eye being much more affected. She also had to have her esphogus reattached to her stomach and needed a feeding tube for about 18 mos. As for her tone, it too was decreased for around a year or better. Vicky still has some gross and fine motor delays but is doing quite well cognitivily. If you would like to contact me or call, please feel free to email me me at this address off of the list. (goofycmhrn1@...) I would be happy to give you a call to discuss some of your concerns. Keep your head up. mother to Vicky age 4 3/4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Have you tried some of the infant stim programs? Maby some of those programs can help him to play a bit? Can I share the " welcome to holland " and my " I am holland " poem? It probably wont help that much but others say that my poem is good so I will take their word for it. I really dont want to be harsh, but please, dont greave for the child you could have had. Celebrate the child you now have. Both you and your husband need to do that. Why not do a family outing, say this weekend, have a family picnic at a beach or even your back yard and just enjoy the day for what it is. Buy 4 t-shirts, and some fabric paint. Make everyone put their hand print on each of the four t- shirst. and write a message on each t-shirt like " we are family " and write everyone's name on the shirts then get someone to take a picture of the four of you with your t-shirst. Just a thought. Chantelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 I was sure worried about the mental delays too. infact when wesley was going to start first grade they said they wanted to put him in a school that is just for disabled kids. and I said NO WAY .. from what it sounded like to me they where just going to label him behind and keep it that way. I have seen many things with wes I knew he was capable of more then they where giving him credit for. I put him in a school where they main stream him. he goes to a reg. class for part of the day and then takes his academics to the resorse room to get one on one help with them. he is up with his class in his science history computers and such. he is half a year behind in his reading and close to a year behind in his math. I really was afraid at how I saw kids who where mainstreamed treated when I was young and in school. but it has never been that way for wes. I dont know if we just got lucky or what but the kids in the school Love him. they are kind and helpful to him. and so many say hi to him when we are out places I have no idea how he knows so many people. oh on the physical side of things those papers you do are just to help you. and your son. the more you can say is wrong even exaggerating the wrong the more help he can get and the better he will get. Wesley's balance is poor and his muscle tone is low although he shows everyone how much muscles he has and says he wants to be hulk when he grows up. we did opt to put wesley in a younger PE class. he just finished fourth grade this year and he went to second grade PE. we did this because his size and balance made it hard for him to play as an equal player with the fourth graders. second grade PE he still learned the games but with kids more his size. there seems to always be talk and concerns about having other kids and the dr people dont seem to know the answers even. I have four boys the oldest being wesley with charge and I am told I have a little girl to be born here really soon I hope. my last boy got pneumonia an hr after he was born so gets sick easily but other then that the rest of the kids all seem to be very healthy. dont know if any of what I said helps or not. I wish you luck and I understand your feelings. KayRena Mother to wesley charger 10 Jake 8 Tristen 6 Zachary 4 and KayLeigh soon. ShKendra@... wrote: > Hello all, > > My name is and my younger son was given the CHARGE > label > when he was about 3 days old. He is 8 1/2 months now, with a big > brother getting > ready to turn 4. We're a Navy family, and we just moved to land. > I'm still > getting settled in with our specialists after leaving some really > great > doctors behind in Virginia Beach. I really struggled with some PPD > after > was born, and I'm still really sensitive about him. I worry every day > about what > his life will be like, if he'll be lonely or unhappy. I'm sure most of > you > know what I mean. I also worry about this happening to us again. We > really want > more kids, but right now I don't even know how we would cope with any > more > medical issues. > > Luckily, from what I've read about CHARGE, is doing really > well. He > has coloboma in both eyes, visible in one pupil, further back in the > other eye. > He has some nystagmus (shaky eyes) but they think he can actually see > decently. He loves to look at lights, that is for sure. He had his > Tetrology of > Fallot repaired on Thanksgiving, and is hopefully coming off of the > heart medicine > in the next month or two. He doesn't have any facial or throat issues > and > amazingly has been able to breastfeed, which is so wonderful. He is > small for his > age (25 1/2 in and 15 lb) but he was also born at 36 weeks. He's got > low > muscle tone, so sometimes it seems like he isn't doing much of > anything. He's > slowly getting stronger, can hold his head up pretty well on his tummy > and will > hold some toys. He loves to suck his thumb. He's got some funny > endocrine stuff, > including adrenal insufficiency and he was hypoglycemic but that seems > to have > gone away. He is doing testosterone shots right now for micropenis (I > HATE > that word!) and undescended testes. He also wears hearing aids for a > mild to > moderate hearing loss caused by a Mondini malformation in both ears. > He has never > had an ear infection though, which is great. Obviously, he got some > major > developmental delays, but we have no idea yet what his cognitive > ability is or > will be. > > I have so many questions for other people that have been through this > period > already. I am kind of confused as to how low muscle tone will affect > him and > what physical therapy is supposed to do. I have come to terms with his > physical > stuff, and I feel like I can handle all of that. But I am absolutely > terrified of him having any sort of intellectual limitations. It's a > real stmbling > block for me, so I would love to hear from any of you about how you > deal with all > of this and what life is like after the baby period is over. His > differences > are just starting to be apparent to strangers, and it makes me so sad > to do > those stupid developmental checklists at the doctors office. > > I'm a pretty natural, non-interventionist person, so all of this > medical > stuff has been very taxing. Does it ever slow down? > > And finally, my older son has been mysteriously, but not too severely, > > delayed, mostly in his speech. I feel a lot like I must have done > soemthing wrong! > Anyone else have another child with special needs, either CHARGE or > something > else? > > Now that I've dumped all of that, please email me! I am a wreck! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 I remember Kennedy sitting up independently at 14 months. We sat her propped up in her high chair with towels on either side and did a lot of playing with toys on that tray. Also, she went into a Lilli Nielsen " Little Room " which she laid down in and had things hanging down to explore and play with. She had a little " tadpole " table (from Physiotherapy) that sat very low to the floor and she sat with her legs under it, leaning forward supporting herself on the table. THe top of the table was a mirror which she loved, so that encouraged her to try and lift up to look at herself. I know though, at 8 months it feels like they're never going to sit up, but he will eventually! > > From: ShKendra@... > Date: 2004/05/28 Fri AM 10:03:13 ADT > To: CHARGE > Subject: Re: New to group, need support BADLY > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Hi , Dylan's doctor's describe his low tone as " central hypotonia " which means it is neurological. The easiest way for me to think about it is that Dylan's nerves do not send strong impulses to his body. This results in his failure to cough to protect his airway, his low tone, his chronic constipation etc. He has had PT, OT, SI since he was a baby and I think they are all very valuable, particularly in teaching skills, but they have not produced the visible changes that I see with cranial sacral therapy. Unfortunately cranial sacral is not covered by our insurance and we pay $100 a visit, which we really can't afford. We keep doing it, because I know it keeps him from having the migraines as often and as bad as he used to; it keeps his body straight; and it helps manually tell his intestines to move things through. When I refer to keeping his body straight that is connected to the hypotonia, because he used to have a fairly significant curve in how he even sat in a chair or when he stood, because of his low tone. I was concerned that his muscles would get so used to being in that curved position that he would develop scoliosis. Now he is noticeably straight in how he stands and sits and of course he has more strength. Is his tone normal no, but he seems to have far better function than he used to. I don't know if these answers help you, they are just what I see in Dylan and my theories in trying to explain it. Best of luck in getting the new services set up for . Kim > Kim, > > Thanks for your support. I keep trying to be positive since has been > getting help since he was born. It is just scary to have no idea how he will > develop, you know? It is nice to hear that families find ways to get around > stuff though. > > You said that your son has low muscle tone. What sort of things did you find > helpful for that? Did craniosacral therapy help? Our insurance will cover > regular PT, OT, speech, but we have to go through the Early Intervention > people > first. We're right in the middle of that process, but had to redo everything > when we moved. > > Just curious about low tone stuff... > > > mom to (CHaRGE, 8 mos and 3 1/2) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 - From the keyboard of ShKendra@...: > .... I actually have been on Zoloft since he was a week old > and just recently weaned off of it. One of those side effects were getting a > bit difficult! I'm definetly better on the actual depression front, but I am > greiving the child I thought I would have. Does that make sense? >... My CHARGE baby was on the very severe end of the spectrum and didn't make it (she died shortly after her heart surgery at 13 days old). Anyway, I've been told that anti-depressants can interfere with the grief process, so it may be that now that you're off of them, you're only now experiencing some of the stored up grief from all those months. Hang in there, Debbie -- + Debbie Tropiano -- debbie@... -- http://www.icus.com/personal.html + | Mommy to b: 8/17/1995, ^Sara^ b: 10/25/2000 d: 11/7/2000 & | | Leah b: 10/17/2001 a: 9/26/2002 " God shows His opposition to cancer and | | birth defects, not by eliminating them or making them happen only to bad | | people (He can't do that), but by summoning forth friends and neighbors | + to ease the burden and to fill the emptiness. " -- Harold S. Kushner + Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 , Our cHARGE daughter will be 20 in Sept. We went throught the grief process for " the normal " baby girl we had hoped for. I am not sure if others have done the same. 's first two years were very frighening. ( we didn't know what CHARGE was until she was 17) Her first 13 years were full of surgeries. I was on Zoloft when she was about age 6 to 10 for depression and stress. I developed a medical problem reaction to it and had to quite. We have been very fortunate. She is now doing very very well. The only problem she has at the moment is a bad ear ( not much hearing even with her aid) She sees the doctor again soon. Hang in there. The first years have been the hardest for most of us. It does get easier. Our is a real blessing to us and everyone she meets. Blessings and Hugs, Lynn Pierpont , OH ( NEO 10 miles south of Conneaut) Mom to Tom 24, cHARGE 19 1/2, and wife to Doug Re: New to group, need support BADLY - From the keyboard of ShKendra@...: > .... I actually have been on Zoloft since he was a week old > and just recently weaned off of it. One of those side effects were getting a > bit difficult! I'm definetly better on the actual depression front, but I am > greiving the child I thought I would have. Does that make sense? >... My CHARGE baby was on the very severe end of the spectrum and didn't make it (she died shortly after her heart surgery at 13 days old). Anyway, I've been told that anti-depressants can interfere with the grief process, so it may be that now that you're off of them, you're only now experiencing some of the stored up grief from all those months. Hang in there, Debbie -- + Debbie Tropiano -- debbie@... -- http://www.icus.com/personal.html + | Mommy to b: 8/17/1995, ^Sara^ b: 10/25/2000 d: 11/7/2000 & | | Leah b: 10/17/2001 a: 9/26/2002 " God shows His opposition to cancer and | | birth defects, not by eliminating them or making them happen only to bad | | people (He can't do that), but by summoning forth friends and neighbors | + to ease the burden and to fill the emptiness. " -- Harold S. Kushner + Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation. For information about the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter) please contact marion@... or visit the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page at http://www.chargesyndrome.org 7th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Miami Beach, Florida, July 22-24, 2005. Information will be available at our website www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. In Canada, you may contact CHARGE Syndrome Canada at 1- (families), visit www.chargesyndrome.ca, or email info@.... Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 hi , welcome to the list ... hope you've had a few of your questions answered, keep'm coming! one thing in your email really leapt out at me ... ----- Original Message ----- > I'm a pretty natural, non-interventionist person, so all of this medical > stuff has been very taxing. Does it ever slow down? > > And finally, my older son has been mysteriously, but not too severely, > delayed, mostly in his speech. I feel a lot like I must have done soemthing wrong! > Anyone else have another child with special needs, either CHARGE or something > else? my older son's language is also a bit delayed ... it makes me wonder how much attention i *really* gave him over the past wee while ... and then, do you know what? ... i cut myself some slack! i think you should do the same .... we can only do so much ... for me that has meant cutting back on just about everything else except keeping our wee family in working order ... and even that falls over every now and then!! it has really made me concentrate on what i *really* need to, to think about things, like what do we want for our children and ourselves and making sure we can do that... as an example, we've just moved a long way to be back closer to family, dh has a whole new job, and i am going to continue my dream to do home schooling ... this time last year i didn't think i'd be able to manage ... it does get easier. All the medical stuff becomes less often (maybe not less serious just less often!), and i like to hold on to the fact that i am not torturing my child - he needs the medical help to live healthily and happily :0) take care, Jo ds Ben 5yrs, ds Josh 21 mths my little CHaRGE'r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 hi , welcome to the list ... hope you've had a few of your questions answered, keep'm coming! one thing in your email really leapt out at me ... ----- Original Message ----- > I'm a pretty natural, non-interventionist person, so all of this medical > stuff has been very taxing. Does it ever slow down? > > And finally, my older son has been mysteriously, but not too severely, > delayed, mostly in his speech. I feel a lot like I must have done soemthing wrong! > Anyone else have another child with special needs, either CHARGE or something > else? my older son's language is also a bit delayed ... it makes me wonder how much attention i *really* gave him over the past wee while ... and then, do you know what? ... i cut myself some slack! i think you should do the same .... we can only do so much ... for me that has meant cutting back on just about everything else except keeping our wee family in working order ... and even that falls over every now and then!! it has really made me concentrate on what i *really* need to, to think about things, like what do we want for our children and ourselves and making sure we can do that... as an example, we've just moved a long way to be back closer to family, dh has a whole new job, and i am going to continue my dream to do home schooling ... this time last year i didn't think i'd be able to manage ... it does get easier. All the medical stuff becomes less often (maybe not less serious just less often!), and i like to hold on to the fact that i am not torturing my child - he needs the medical help to live healthily and happily :0) take care, Jo ds Ben 5yrs, ds Josh 21 mths my little CHaRGE'r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 hi , welcome to the list ... hope you've had a few of your questions answered, keep'm coming! one thing in your email really leapt out at me ... ----- Original Message ----- > I'm a pretty natural, non-interventionist person, so all of this medical > stuff has been very taxing. Does it ever slow down? > > And finally, my older son has been mysteriously, but not too severely, > delayed, mostly in his speech. I feel a lot like I must have done soemthing wrong! > Anyone else have another child with special needs, either CHARGE or something > else? my older son's language is also a bit delayed ... it makes me wonder how much attention i *really* gave him over the past wee while ... and then, do you know what? ... i cut myself some slack! i think you should do the same .... we can only do so much ... for me that has meant cutting back on just about everything else except keeping our wee family in working order ... and even that falls over every now and then!! it has really made me concentrate on what i *really* need to, to think about things, like what do we want for our children and ourselves and making sure we can do that... as an example, we've just moved a long way to be back closer to family, dh has a whole new job, and i am going to continue my dream to do home schooling ... this time last year i didn't think i'd be able to manage ... it does get easier. All the medical stuff becomes less often (maybe not less serious just less often!), and i like to hold on to the fact that i am not torturing my child - he needs the medical help to live healthily and happily :0) take care, Jo ds Ben 5yrs, ds Josh 21 mths my little CHaRGE'r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Jo- I found the same thing -- that I reevaluated my priorities after having Aubrie. My dreams for both my kids are different now than they used to be. Now, I want both kids to be successful and happy, respectable, but I don't have any specific " rules " about what that should be. I mean, I'm much more comfortable with my son becoming whatever he grows into rather than having any preconceived notions of what he should be. Did I say that clearly? As for myself, my personal priorities are very different. I am a completely different person than I would have been if I hadn't had Aubrie. I am fortunate to have a hardworking husband who makes enough for me to pursue my dreams by having my own business. It frees me to be available for whatever either kid needs but also grow in career and provide some income for the family. If I hadn't been forced to change my path, I'd still be a classroom teacher (which I loved) and thinking about what I'd do " someday " . Michele W Aubrie's mom (6 yrs) and (12 yrs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Jo- I found the same thing -- that I reevaluated my priorities after having Aubrie. My dreams for both my kids are different now than they used to be. Now, I want both kids to be successful and happy, respectable, but I don't have any specific " rules " about what that should be. I mean, I'm much more comfortable with my son becoming whatever he grows into rather than having any preconceived notions of what he should be. Did I say that clearly? As for myself, my personal priorities are very different. I am a completely different person than I would have been if I hadn't had Aubrie. I am fortunate to have a hardworking husband who makes enough for me to pursue my dreams by having my own business. It frees me to be available for whatever either kid needs but also grow in career and provide some income for the family. If I hadn't been forced to change my path, I'd still be a classroom teacher (which I loved) and thinking about what I'd do " someday " . Michele W Aubrie's mom (6 yrs) and (12 yrs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Debbie, That is very insightful of you. I'd never thought of it like that, but you are probably right. Thank you for being around. Whenver I think I'm going to break, I'll think about you and your little angel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Debbie, That is very insightful of you. I'd never thought of it like that, but you are probably right. Thank you for being around. Whenver I think I'm going to break, I'll think about you and your little angel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Debbie, That is very insightful of you. I'd never thought of it like that, but you are probably right. Thank you for being around. Whenver I think I'm going to break, I'll think about you and your little angel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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