Re: Vitamin A Protocol Maintenance Dose & More

November 8, 2010

obviously there is gut dysbiosis here. I would go for stool testing in a path lab. But probiotic should be increased a lot. Wheat should be TOTALLY stopped and what about caseine? On the vitamin front there is split among authorities on vitamins A and D. Natasha advocates for cod liver oil as sourceof A and D, McCandless is not favoring A because of the Vitamin D Council. In any case even they argue in favor of some A. Theratio is D:A, 5:1.My gut feeling is that if there were a Vitamin A Council, we would have a different music going on.Go by experience. If A is working, why not continue? Yes, the dose has to be watched. The book is not on hand so I can't tell thedose.-------------Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education; Life Member, Nutrition Soc. of India; Member ISOM- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA);- www.RegainMentalHealth.com/ www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealthTo: mb12 valtrex From: lisa_gette@...Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 15:28:59 +0000Subject: Vitamin A Protocol Maintenance Dose & More

Hi everyone,

We just did the two-day High Dose Vitamin A protocol with my 3.5 yo son. One day after the protocol and we have seen interesting improvements (trying to copy everything more including his big brother and more speech though it hasn't gotten clearer). Hopefully, they will stick.

What I'm wondering is how long do we do the maintenance dose (20,000 to 40,000 iu)? McCandless's book doesn't say how long to do the maintenance dose and since vit A blocks vit D, we want to be carefull with this.

Also, what types of side effects or reactions have people seen as part of the process? Last night, my guy had a case of the giggles at 2am, but I was expecting yeast. Since he is already on diflucan with Valtrex, I'm just upping his probiotics slightly. What has been more surprising has been poop issues? [The poop sensitive should stop reading at this point] The first day, he had what appeared to be a normal poop in terms of external color, texture, etc. However, when it touched the toilet bowl it split revealing what was inside and there was a green, black stringy mucousy substance straight out of a horror flick. The next morning he had diarrhea in his diaper and it comprised very dark feces, some blood (Daddy gave him wheat - grr - so it could have been the infraction), more of the green/black stringy stuff, black flecks of non-fecal matter, and a ton of mucous. Is this what it looks like when you shed measles? He's had infractions before and we've never seen anything like this before. Would you share what you may have seen during the Vit A protocol process to help me normalize (or not) what I'm seeing.

Thanks,

November 8, 2010

,

I have been wanting to try this protocol with my 27 month old daughter since I first read about it but my Dan only wants to give her 5000 iu's and then watch and see how things go. I have a couple of questions for you. You read about the protocol in the book "Kids with starving brains" right? well in the book it said on page 180 that if your child meets 3 of the 5 listed conditions that you should give it a try. One of the them which is #3 on the list says elevated Rubeola level, did you ever test your child's? my daughter came back as 385.3 crazy crazy high, her measules was something like 5.4something and mumps was in the 4.7 range, so from just that I think that she would a perfect case to try, she also regressed after her MMR which is another condition. Another question does you child have any issue with vision wear glasses, rub his eyes alot anything like that? my daughter wears glasses and is always rubbing her eyes and it would make

sence for what I am reading.We just started the B12 shot and my dan said that she would relook at doing the protocol in a month. I am just excited about it and can't wait to get the ok. I haven't yet started the 5000 iu's yet, I was given the ok last Thursday but she was given three other things to start and of course you need to start them three to four days apart, I am planning on starting them on Thursday this week. One more question was your son on a smaller amount before starting the protocol? I know that I wasn't much help answering your questions but I am so excited to read someone else has tried this because it does seem like alot are. One more thing my daughter is taken 2000iu's in the morning of VitD do you think maybe I should give the Vit A at another time?

Thanks for your post and I am glad to hear that it's working for your little guy,

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 9:28:59 AMSubject: Vitamin A Protocol Maintenance Dose & More

Hi everyone,We just did the two-day High Dose Vitamin A protocol with my 3.5 yo son. One day after the protocol and we have seen interesting improvements (trying to copy everything more including his big brother and more speech though it hasn't gotten clearer). Hopefully, they will stick. What I'm wondering is how long do we do the maintenance dose (20,000 to 40,000 iu)? McCandless's book doesn't say how long to do the maintenance dose and since vit A blocks vit D, we want to be carefull with this. Also, what types of side effects or reactions have people seen as part of the process? Last night, my guy had a case of the giggles at 2am, but I was expecting yeast. Since he is already on diflucan with Valtrex, I'm just upping his probiotics slightly. What has been more surprising has been poop issues? [The poop sensitive should stop reading at this point] The first day, he had what appeared to be a normal poop in terms of external

color, texture, etc. However, when it touched the toilet bowl it split revealing what was inside and there was a green, black stringy mucousy substance straight out of a horror flick. The next morning he had diarrhea in his diaper and it comprised very dark feces, some blood (Daddy gave him wheat - grr - so it could have been the infraction), more of the green/black stringy stuff, black flecks of non-fecal matter, and a ton of mucous. Is this what it looks like when you shed measles? He's had infractions before and we've never seen anything like this before. Would you share what you may have seen during the Vit A protocol process to help me normalize (or not) what I'm seeing.Thanks,

November 8, 2010

she recommends 25,000 every day...Sent from my iPhone

Hi everyone,

We just did the two-day High Dose Vitamin A protocol with my 3.5 yo son. One day after the protocol and we have seen interesting improvements (trying to copy everything more including his big brother and more speech though it hasn't gotten clearer). Hopefully, they will stick.

What I'm wondering is how long do we do the maintenance dose (20,000 to 40,000 iu)? McCandless's book doesn't say how long to do the maintenance dose and since vit A blocks vit D, we want to be carefull with this.

Also, what types of side effects or reactions have people seen as part of the process? Last night, my guy had a case of the giggles at 2am, but I was expecting yeast. Since he is already on diflucan with Valtrex, I'm just upping his probiotics slightly. What has been more surprising has been poop issues? [The poop sensitive should stop reading at this point] The first day, he had what appeared to be a normal poop in terms of external color, texture, etc. However, when it touched the toilet bowl it split revealing what was inside and there was a green, black stringy mucousy substance straight out of a horror flick. The next morning he had diarrhea in his diaper and it comprised very dark feces, some blood (Daddy gave him wheat - grr - so it could have been the infraction), more of the green/black stringy stuff, black flecks of non-fecal matter, and a ton of mucous. Is this what it looks like when you shed measles? He's had infractions before and

we've never seen anything like this before. Would you share what you may have seen during the Vit A protocol process to help me normalize (or not) what I'm seeing.

Thanks,

November 8, 2010

" vit A blocks vit D "

, do you mind elaborating on this?

Best regards,

Arpita.

>

> Hi everyone,

> We just did the two-day High Dose Vitamin A protocol with my 3.5 yo son. One

day after the protocol and we have seen interesting improvements (trying to copy

everything more including his big brother and more speech though it hasn't

gotten clearer). Hopefully, they will stick.

>

> What I'm wondering is how long do we do the maintenance dose (20,000 to 40,000

iu)? McCandless's book doesn't say how long to do the maintenance dose and

since vit A blocks vit D, we want to be carefull with this.

>

> Also, what types of side effects or reactions have people seen as part of the

process? Last night, my guy had a case of the giggles at 2am, but I was

expecting yeast. Since he is already on diflucan with Valtrex, I'm just upping

his probiotics slightly. What has been more surprising has been poop issues?

[The poop sensitive should stop reading at this point] The first day, he had

what appeared to be a normal poop in terms of external color, texture, etc.

However, when it touched the toilet bowl it split revealing what was inside and

there was a green, black stringy mucousy substance straight out of a horror

flick. The next morning he had diarrhea in his diaper and it comprised very

dark feces, some blood (Daddy gave him wheat - grr - so it could have been the

infraction), more of the green/black stringy stuff, black flecks of non-fecal

matter, and a ton of mucous. Is this what it looks like when you shed measles?

He's had infractions before and we've never seen anything like this before.

Would you share what you may have seen during the Vit A protocol process to help

me normalize (or not) what I'm seeing.

>

> Thanks,

>

November 8, 2010

Hi ,

Let me caveat this by saying that I am certainly not the expert. I'm just

hoping not to be a cautionary tale. My son has high Rubeola titers (maybe 5

times the norm) and rubs his eyes a lot. The closest thing that we have seen to

a visual stim is that he closes his eyes tight and " looks " at lights. We don't

really know if he regressed after measles. His issue was more a lack of

movement than a backward step and it was so gradual, that we missed it until he

was almost two. My son takes multi's with about 5,000 per day. He also takes

1,500 iu of Vitamin D since he tested low for that a while ago. We give 500 iu

of D at breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

I decided to try Vitamin A even though my son does not meet the criteria

technically since he is close. The challenge with him is that he is " close " on

everything. For example, his DAN! said he didn't need to work on his gut

because it was perfect. I found that while nothing was off the charts, he was

out of balance and guess what - a couple of months on serious probiotics and

enzymes has really helped him and he potty trained himself. I think because ASD

is a multi-factorial condition, many of our kids have low levels of a ton of

things. I'm hoping that by helping him fight some of his moderate battles, we

can win a few and his body can focus on some others that we haven't figured out

yet.

To your point on your excitement over trying Vitamin A, I hear you and I have

definitely been there - in fact, I'm there right now. Best of luck with

everything,

>

> ,

>

> I have been wanting to try this protocol with my 27 month old daughter since I

> first read about it but my DanÂ only wants to give her 5000 iu's and then

watch

> and see how things go. I have a couple of questions for you. You read about

the

> protocol in the book " Kids with starving brains " right? well in the book it

said

> on page 180 that if your child meets 3 of the 5 listed conditions that you

> should give it a try. One of the them which is #3 on the list says elevated

> Rubeola level, did you ever test your child's? my daughter came back as 385.3

> crazy crazy high, her measules was something like 5.4something and mumps was

in

> the 4.7 range, so from just that I think that she would a perfect case to try,

> she also regressed after her MMR which is another condition. Another question

> does you child have any issue with vision wear glasses, rub his eyes alot

> anything like that? my daughter wears glasses and is always rubbing her eyes

and

> it would make sence for what I am reading.We just started the B12 shot andÂ my

> danÂ said that she would relook at doing the protocol in a month. I am just

> excited about it and can't wait to get the ok. I haven't yet started the 5000

> iu's yet, I was given the ok last Thursday but she was given three other

things

> to start and of course you need to start them three to four days apart, I am

> planning on starting them on Thursday this week. One more question was your

son

> on a smaller amount before starting the protocol? I know that I wasn't much

help

> answering your questions but I am so excited to read someone else has tried

this

> because it does seem like alot are. One more thing my daughter is taken

> 2000iu's in the morning of VitD do you think maybe I should give the Vit A at

> another time?

>

> Thanks for your post and I am glad to hear that it's working for your little

> guy,

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 9:28:59 AM

> Subject: Vitamin A Protocol Maintenance Dose & More

>

> Â

> Hi everyone,

> We just did the two-day High Dose Vitamin A protocol with my 3.5 yo son. One

day

> after the protocol and we have seen interesting improvements (trying to copy

> everything more including his big brother and more speech though it hasn't

> gotten clearer). Hopefully, they will stick.

>

> What I'm wondering is how long do we do the maintenance dose (20,000 to 40,000

> iu)? McCandless's book doesn't say how long to do the maintenance dose and

since

> vit A blocks vit D, we want to be carefull with this.

>

> Also, what types of side effects or reactions have people seen as part of the

> process? Last night, my guy had a case of the giggles at 2am, but I was

> expecting yeast. Since he is already on diflucan with Valtrex, I'm just upping

> his probiotics slightly. What has been more surprising has been poop issues?

> [The poop sensitive should stop reading at this point] The first day, he had

> what appeared to be a normal poop in terms of external color, texture, etc.

> However, when it touched the toilet bowl it split revealing what was inside

and

> there was a green, black stringy mucousy substance straight out of a horror

> flick. The next morning he had diarrhea in his diaper and it comprised very

dark

> feces, some blood (Daddy gave him wheat - grr - so it could have been the

> infraction), more of the green/black stringy stuff, black flecks of non-fecal

> matter, and a ton of mucous. Is this what it looks like when you shed measles?

> He's had infractions before and we've never seen anything like this before.

> Would you share what you may have seen during the Vit A protocol process to

help

> me normalize (or not) what I'm seeing.

>

> Thanks,

>

November 8, 2010

Apparently, there are high rates of Vitamin D deficiency throughout the world.

Studies show that Vitamin A can block the body's absorption of Vitamin D. Given

Vitamin D's importance, this is a risk.

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> > We just did the two-day High Dose Vitamin A protocol with my 3.5 yo son.

One day after the protocol and we have seen interesting improvements (trying to

copy everything more including his big brother and more speech though it hasn't

gotten clearer). Hopefully, they will stick.

> >

> > What I'm wondering is how long do we do the maintenance dose (20,000 to

40,000 iu)? McCandless's book doesn't say how long to do the maintenance dose

and since vit A blocks vit D, we want to be carefull with this.

> >

> > Also, what types of side effects or reactions have people seen as part of

the process? Last night, my guy had a case of the giggles at 2am, but I was