Re: Motility issue vs tue constipation

[Guest guest]

>

> What is perplexing to me however is his frequency of bowel

> movements. If I let him alone, he will only " go " every 2-3 days.

Hi Beth, I don't really know the answer to your question, but I do

know that DeFelice has talked before about this issue when

related to issues of absorption. I think she was saying that when

people correct their malabsoprtion problems, their amount of stool

and/or frequency decreases. She actually cited some studies on

livestock and enzymes... The cows pooped less when they digested

their food better.

Anyway, I think the point was that when your body is truly using your

food as fuel, it has less to waste. I think we are pretty stuck on

our once-a-day routine for some reason, but maybe some people just

really don't need to go that often? My son sometimes goes everyday,

but more often - every other day.

However, with the issue of motility and potty training... did you see

's posts about the castor oil and flannel packs on the

tummy? It wasn't very long ago and I reposted it here just a few days

ago. Let me know if you can't find it and I'll dig it up.

Take care,

son - 5yo ASD, SCD 13 1/2 months

[Guest guest]

>

> What is perplexing to me however is his frequency of bowel

> movements. If I let him alone, he will only " go " every 2-3 days.

Hi Beth, I don't really know the answer to your question, but I do

know that DeFelice has talked before about this issue when

related to issues of absorption. I think she was saying that when

people correct their malabsoprtion problems, their amount of stool

and/or frequency decreases. She actually cited some studies on

livestock and enzymes... The cows pooped less when they digested

their food better.

Anyway, I think the point was that when your body is truly using your

food as fuel, it has less to waste. I think we are pretty stuck on

our once-a-day routine for some reason, but maybe some people just

really don't need to go that often? My son sometimes goes everyday,

but more often - every other day.

However, with the issue of motility and potty training... did you see

's posts about the castor oil and flannel packs on the

tummy? It wasn't very long ago and I reposted it here just a few days

ago. Let me know if you can't find it and I'll dig it up.

Take care,

son - 5yo ASD, SCD 13 1/2 months

[Guest guest]

the basic measure of fecal efficency is how much stool there is

with houstonni enzymes esp no fenol going once every two or three

days can be 'normal' because of the reduced fecal mass and better

digestive effiency which can be considerably better than a normal

person. non inorganic zinc and magnesium can considerably improve

this efficency as well.

if there was a lot of fecal mass on that 'delayed' schedule than

that might be a cause for concern.

i gutted an australian possum last night and was fascinated to see

that the intestine hangs on a sort of elastic web that would move the

intestine as the body moved i think

so it may be that motility depdns on overall body movement and

flexing and you can see how the sedentary life of todays chidlren

might be affected by this. there are probably exersises that could be

done to move the intestine.

there no muscle to move the intestine except perhaps sphincter

muscles at the end so this web and movement interaction is extremely

important i think. its probably connective tissue so formation of

connective tissue, adequate zinc copper and what else i can't remebr

is important.

andrew scd + non feremented dairy - nut flours and nuts + rice bran

filler houstonni enzymes

[Guest guest]

the basic measure of fecal efficency is how much stool there is

with houstonni enzymes esp no fenol going once every two or three

days can be 'normal' because of the reduced fecal mass and better

digestive effiency which can be considerably better than a normal

person. non inorganic zinc and magnesium can considerably improve

this efficency as well.

if there was a lot of fecal mass on that 'delayed' schedule than

that might be a cause for concern.

i gutted an australian possum last night and was fascinated to see

that the intestine hangs on a sort of elastic web that would move the

intestine as the body moved i think

so it may be that motility depdns on overall body movement and

flexing and you can see how the sedentary life of todays chidlren

might be affected by this. there are probably exersises that could be

done to move the intestine.

there no muscle to move the intestine except perhaps sphincter

muscles at the end so this web and movement interaction is extremely

important i think. its probably connective tissue so formation of

connective tissue, adequate zinc copper and what else i can't remebr

is important.

andrew scd + non feremented dairy - nut flours and nuts + rice bran

filler houstonni enzymes

[Guest guest]

Beth

My son who is almost 5 (in JUne!) and about the same weight as yours

has almost never had a BM two days in a row. He is not ASD but

definately has gut issues.

preSCd we had to be very very careful about what kind and how much

cheese he ate. One slice of American cheese could constipate to the

point that BMs where huge and painful.

That never happens anymore, but he still only goes every other day to

every 2-3 days. I was beginning to worry about it a little again, so

I am glad that you posted this question!

His bms are also soft and formed. They can be awfully sticky though

and once in a while very smelly. I think he goes through a new stage

of dieoff once ever other week or so. He gets very gassy and is hard

to deal with in general. He has a tendency to withhold (probably

because of the painful BMs of the past) so I am wondering if this has

something to do with the frequency too. He waits until he cannot wait

any long and makes a mad dash to the potty. Perhaps it is partly a

sensory thing?

I am glad to hear that perhaps his body is probably doing a better job

of digesting his food and that could be part of it too.

Chrystee

Sam, 5 in June, sensory/behavior issues, salicylate sensitive

SCD 3 months

995@y...> wrote:

> My son who is 5 and 44 pounds, with autism has been SCD now for

> almost a year and a half. The diet has been great in that it turned

> his stools to chronic mush to formed within a few months.

>

>

> So, is this a motility issue or muscle sensory issue? I just do not

> understand what is going on here. He is pee potty trained, but

> still not bm potty trained, no surprise there, eh?

>

> Anyone have any input on this? I keep thinking we are missing

> something.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Beth