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In a message dated 3/27/03 10:54:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,

WANDA53@... writes:

>

>

> Three dead bodies turn up at the mortuary, all with very big smiles on

> their faces. The coroner calls the police to tell them what has

> happened.

>

> " First body: Frenchman, 60, died of heart failure while making love to

> his mistress. Hence the enormous smile, Inspector " , says the Coroner.

>

> " Second body: " Scotsman, 25, won a thousand dollars on the lottery,

> spent it all on whisky. Died of alcohol poisoning, hence the smile. "

>

> The Inspector asked, " What of the third body? "

>

> " Ah, " says the coroner, " this is the most unusual one.

> -Bob the redneck from Oklahoma, 30, struck by lightning. "

>

> " Why is he smiling then? " inquires the Inspector.

>

> " Thought he was having his picture taken. "

> ----------------------------------------------------------

>

> REDNECK RULES OF ETIQUETTE

>

> The dogs should be fed on the floor, not on the table, no matter how

> good their manners are.

>

> When serving wine, be sure and tilt the paper cup and pour slowly so as

>

> not to spill wine on the guest.

>

> If drinking directly from the bottle, always hold it with your fingers

> covering the label.

>

> Always offer to bait your date's hook, especially on the first date.

>

> If your date's parents insist she be home by Monday,

> remember that it is the boy's responsibility to get her to school on

> time.

>

> It is improper to take a beer cooler to church unless the service is

> in a tent.

>

> It is considered tacky to drive a U-Haul to the funeral home.

>

> Be sure that any taxidermy used as a special-occasion centerpiece is

> free of ticks and fleas.

>

> Always greet visitors to your yard before shooting at them.

>

> A shot of whiskey in the milk bottle will help keep babies from crying

> too loudly at funerals, movies, and other solemn occasions.

>

> Do not lay rubber while traveling in a funeral procession.

>

> Always dim your headlights for approaching vehicles, even if the gun is

>

> loaded and the deer is in sight.

>

> When approaching a four-way stop, the vehicle with the largest tires

> always has the right of way.

>

> When sending your wife down the road with a gas can, it is impolite to

> ask her to bring back beer unless she can carry enough for both of you.

>

>

> Shoes and socks should be worn to weddings and funerals.

>

> Livestock is only a good choice for a wedding gift if the couple has a

> yard.

>

> At weddings, it is impolite to kiss the bride for more than ten seconds

>

> if she is your blood relative.

>

> Never take a beer to a job interview without bringing enough to offer

> one to the interviewer.

>

> Never relieve yourself from a moving vehicle.

>

> Overnight guests should never have to share a bed with more than one

> dog,

> unless it is a cold night and the furnace is out.

>

> Cleaning one's ears should always be done in private using one's

> OWN truck keys.

> =====================================

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think that is information that should be in the IEP, actually. They need

to know it is a major safety issue and there are certain things to be shared

with bus drivers or any transportation assistants. I should know - I'm a

bus driver. Maybe you can contact the parents directly and ask them, if

such a situation arises how can the student assist with his evacuation. I

often call parents at the start of the year and ask if there is anything

they would like me to know about their child. I then use the example of if

they are allergic to stings it is nice to be aware of that. The bees are

really bad in Fall and Spring around here and get on the buses throug the

windows and door. Often the parents will share any medical problems that

might possibly arise on the bus. I started doing this after I had a

diabetic student one year that started into shock and I didn't even know he

was diabetic! The teacher put him on the bus with a piece of tape with a

number on his shirt. When I asked the student, he said that was his blood

sugar reading! I took him home first and made sure the parent was there to

receive him. He passed out after exiting the bus - basically collapsed in

Mom's arms! He was fine becasue Mom evidently got a call from the school to

warn he he needed attention pretty quickly on arriving home. And because of

confidentiality, the school didn't feel I needed to know this. If he'd had

any kind of problem prior to this, I'd have had no clue what the problem

was!

I think the confidentiality thing is far too over-guarded in some cases.

Example: With all that is going on with lately, we have asked for

prayers. One of our good friends is also a nurse at 's school. When

another friend asked about , the nurse was conflicted regarding how

much she could tell. She didn't know which informaiton came from us as a

friend and which information came as a professional in an educational

setting. We told her to tell anything we have told her - it's what we have

told everyone else. We feel the more specific a prayer can be, the better

it can be answered!

Just my 2 cents about this.

Friends in CHARGE,

Marilyn Ogan

Mom of Ken (14 yrs., ADD) and (11 yrs., CHARGE+)

Wife of Rick

oganm@...

oganr@...

(no subject)

Hi everyone,

As most of you know i work as a one-to-one aide and transportaion aide

for my local school district. On the bus we are given no health information

on

the children. We have a child that uses a wheelchair and the other day we

were

doing practice emergency evacuations. I asked the physical therapist who

works

with his if incase of an emergency does he have any mobility or does he need

full assistance. The PT told me she can not provide this information, i am

not

aloud to know because of the privacy act. I understand privacy but isn't

this

taking it a little to far, this involves the childs saftey. Do you all think

it is ridiculus or am i over reacting? Lucille

[Guest guest]

I think that is information that should be in the IEP, actually. They need

to know it is a major safety issue and there are certain things to be shared

with bus drivers or any transportation assistants. I should know - I'm a

bus driver. Maybe you can contact the parents directly and ask them, if

such a situation arises how can the student assist with his evacuation. I

often call parents at the start of the year and ask if there is anything

they would like me to know about their child. I then use the example of if

they are allergic to stings it is nice to be aware of that. The bees are

really bad in Fall and Spring around here and get on the buses throug the

windows and door. Often the parents will share any medical problems that

might possibly arise on the bus. I started doing this after I had a

diabetic student one year that started into shock and I didn't even know he

was diabetic! The teacher put him on the bus with a piece of tape with a

number on his shirt. When I asked the student, he said that was his blood

sugar reading! I took him home first and made sure the parent was there to

receive him. He passed out after exiting the bus - basically collapsed in

Mom's arms! He was fine becasue Mom evidently got a call from the school to

warn he he needed attention pretty quickly on arriving home. And because of

confidentiality, the school didn't feel I needed to know this. If he'd had

any kind of problem prior to this, I'd have had no clue what the problem

was!

I think the confidentiality thing is far too over-guarded in some cases.

Example: With all that is going on with lately, we have asked for

prayers. One of our good friends is also a nurse at 's school. When

another friend asked about , the nurse was conflicted regarding how

much she could tell. She didn't know which informaiton came from us as a

friend and which information came as a professional in an educational

setting. We told her to tell anything we have told her - it's what we have

told everyone else. We feel the more specific a prayer can be, the better

it can be answered!

Just my 2 cents about this.

Friends in CHARGE,

Marilyn Ogan

Mom of Ken (14 yrs., ADD) and (11 yrs., CHARGE+)

Wife of Rick

oganm@...

oganr@...

(no subject)

Hi everyone,

As most of you know i work as a one-to-one aide and transportaion aide

for my local school district. On the bus we are given no health information

on

the children. We have a child that uses a wheelchair and the other day we

were

doing practice emergency evacuations. I asked the physical therapist who

works

with his if incase of an emergency does he have any mobility or does he need

full assistance. The PT told me she can not provide this information, i am

not

aloud to know because of the privacy act. I understand privacy but isn't

this

taking it a little to far, this involves the childs saftey. Do you all think

it is ridiculus or am i over reacting? Lucille

[Guest guest]

I think that new thing about confidentiality regarding these issues

is absurd. I know that when the " little bus " drivers were given

their loads they would contact the families personally regarding the

needs of the student. Is the bus driver just susposed to know if the

child has epilepsy? One of the bus drivers here always played music

on her bus, but it just so happens that would send an autisic rider

into a meltdown. A child in a wheelchair is probably going be in

need of some sort of assistance in any emergency situation, undoing

the restraints and transfering to safety. I would think that this

would be information that you would be required to have.

, friend to , CHARGE, 23

[Guest guest]

This is absurd. Yearly, we have to fill out a form about 's need(s) for

help in exiting a building, dealing with drills, etc. Everyone who deals

with a child has to have this information! Find someone else to question

asap! Martha

[Guest guest]

This is absurd. Yearly, we have to fill out a form about 's need(s) for

help in exiting a building, dealing with drills, etc. Everyone who deals

with a child has to have this information! Find someone else to question

asap! Martha

[Guest guest]

I don't think it is so much a confidentiality problem as it is a problem with

the PT understanding the laws of confidentiality. I was a bus assistant as

well. If there is something that pertains to your job about the child they

have to tell you. If it is your job to get that child off the bus then they

need

to tell you how that is done safely. They don't always have to tell you why

but they do have to tell you how. If it is the bus drivers job to exit the

child then the PT doesn't have to tell you. I would ask about it again because

if something happens while you are taking that student off the bus and he gets

injured in some way you will be held responsible. If the PT doesn't tell you

anything then I would document that. This isn't only for your safety but for

more importantly the child's safety. It took years but I learned how to get

the nerve up and ask the parent or caregiver something about the child I felt

I needed to know. I would ask in a way that was safe. You could ask saying

something like " Is there any specific way I could help ___ off the bus during

an evacuation so it could be done in a safe but timely manner? " That gives the

heads up to the parents that you haven't been told how.

I was an assistant on a van for an incredibly medically fragile student.

I was shared the medical information about her condition and how to handle it

because that was my job. It was scary at first but I loved that child.

While on the bus though the bus driver expected me to do things with or for the

other children. I did keep them calm and work with them during melt downs, put

their shoes back on, or minor things like that. But I did not buckle their

chairs in, I didn't do anything with/for them physically, except when they wet

their pants or were sick. The teacher even wanted me to restrain them at times

which I refused until it was listed as my job- AND I WAS TRAINED HOW TO DO IT!

I actually love the privacy laws. Too often I have heard support staff as

well as teachers talk about children when they shouldn't. It made me sick.

Some of these people had nothing to do with the child or their family. They

even

talked in the hallways or in front of other students! I didn't eat in the

staff lunchroom because of that. It made me mad because most often these idiots

were stating opinions instead of facts. Misinformation and opinions can hurt

everyone, especially the child. Unbelievably I was shared some information

people said eithor about Patty or my family. Again, they were opinions and not

facts. It is like that telephone game, the more they talk the worse the

information gets. I feel it hurt Patty's education. But there is a point where

the law is misinterpreted. If you are working with a child you need to know

the IEP. That's all. We don't need to know who has what disease or not. We

should act as if every person, staff as well as student's, have communicable

diseases.

My suggestion is to get it written what you are to do during an evacuation or

any other emergency. Getting things documented will not only help you but

the bus driver as well as a substitute if needed.

Oh, and if you are buckling in a wheelchair and it gets loose you are

responsible. In CT we were not allowed to buckle the chairs in. Bus drivers

wanted

me to but I saw one get loose one day without a child in it. It was

terrifying. After that I always had the bus driver do it. It only took an

extra

minute or two. I made sure though I did nice things for the driver, like bring

in

lemonade on a hot day. That way she knew it wasn't my choice to refuse to do

these things and I really did respect her and enjoyed her company. Bus

drivers are very important to our children. Hey, it was Patty's first bus

driver

that got her to say her very first word at 2 1/2. That's right, the bus driver

got her to talk when others couldn't. They had a 45 minute ride each way with

only one other student. I will always love that woman. She is smarter and

kinder than most. It is a hard job and I am grateful she chose that line of

work.

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

I don't think it is so much a confidentiality problem as it is a problem with

the PT understanding the laws of confidentiality. I was a bus assistant as

well. If there is something that pertains to your job about the child they

have to tell you. If it is your job to get that child off the bus then they

need

to tell you how that is done safely. They don't always have to tell you why

but they do have to tell you how. If it is the bus drivers job to exit the

child then the PT doesn't have to tell you. I would ask about it again because

if something happens while you are taking that student off the bus and he gets

injured in some way you will be held responsible. If the PT doesn't tell you

anything then I would document that. This isn't only for your safety but for

more importantly the child's safety. It took years but I learned how to get

the nerve up and ask the parent or caregiver something about the child I felt

I needed to know. I would ask in a way that was safe. You could ask saying

something like " Is there any specific way I could help ___ off the bus during

an evacuation so it could be done in a safe but timely manner? " That gives the

heads up to the parents that you haven't been told how.

I was an assistant on a van for an incredibly medically fragile student.

I was shared the medical information about her condition and how to handle it

because that was my job. It was scary at first but I loved that child.

While on the bus though the bus driver expected me to do things with or for the

other children. I did keep them calm and work with them during melt downs, put

their shoes back on, or minor things like that. But I did not buckle their

chairs in, I didn't do anything with/for them physically, except when they wet

their pants or were sick. The teacher even wanted me to restrain them at times

which I refused until it was listed as my job- AND I WAS TRAINED HOW TO DO IT!

I actually love the privacy laws. Too often I have heard support staff as

well as teachers talk about children when they shouldn't. It made me sick.

Some of these people had nothing to do with the child or their family. They

even

talked in the hallways or in front of other students! I didn't eat in the

staff lunchroom because of that. It made me mad because most often these idiots

were stating opinions instead of facts. Misinformation and opinions can hurt

everyone, especially the child. Unbelievably I was shared some information

people said eithor about Patty or my family. Again, they were opinions and not

facts. It is like that telephone game, the more they talk the worse the

information gets. I feel it hurt Patty's education. But there is a point where

the law is misinterpreted. If you are working with a child you need to know

the IEP. That's all. We don't need to know who has what disease or not. We

should act as if every person, staff as well as student's, have communicable

diseases.

My suggestion is to get it written what you are to do during an evacuation or

any other emergency. Getting things documented will not only help you but

the bus driver as well as a substitute if needed.

Oh, and if you are buckling in a wheelchair and it gets loose you are

responsible. In CT we were not allowed to buckle the chairs in. Bus drivers

wanted

me to but I saw one get loose one day without a child in it. It was

terrifying. After that I always had the bus driver do it. It only took an

extra

minute or two. I made sure though I did nice things for the driver, like bring

in

lemonade on a hot day. That way she knew it wasn't my choice to refuse to do

these things and I really did respect her and enjoyed her company. Bus

drivers are very important to our children. Hey, it was Patty's first bus

driver

that got her to say her very first word at 2 1/2. That's right, the bus driver

got her to talk when others couldn't. They had a 45 minute ride each way with

only one other student. I will always love that woman. She is smarter and

kinder than most. It is a hard job and I am grateful she chose that line of

work.

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

I would ask the parents directly. I want everyone who is responsible for my

son to know everything they needed to in order to keep him safe, and he's a

very healthy charger.

Eddie's bus driver was driving a different vehicle one day last week so I

asked if the emergency information was on that bus. Apparently not. She said the

bus company would contact me. Not good enough. I attached my contact

information and his school and pediatrician's phone numbers to his stroller

(using the

charge syndrome luggage tag from the last conference).

Joanne

[Guest guest]

I would ask the parents directly. I want everyone who is responsible for my

son to know everything they needed to in order to keep him safe, and he's a

very healthy charger.

Eddie's bus driver was driving a different vehicle one day last week so I

asked if the emergency information was on that bus. Apparently not. She said the

bus company would contact me. Not good enough. I attached my contact

information and his school and pediatrician's phone numbers to his stroller

(using the

charge syndrome luggage tag from the last conference).

Joanne

[Guest guest]

I would ask the parents directly. I want everyone who is responsible for my

son to know everything they needed to in order to keep him safe, and he's a

very healthy charger.

Eddie's bus driver was driving a different vehicle one day last week so I

asked if the emergency information was on that bus. Apparently not. She said the

bus company would contact me. Not good enough. I attached my contact

information and his school and pediatrician's phone numbers to his stroller

(using the

charge syndrome luggage tag from the last conference).

Joanne

[Guest guest]

I would speak to the teacher as a start and see if something can be added to

her IEP addressing mobility concerns in school transportation. Tell her

what you are worried about, then hopefully she will take the ball to put

things in place for the child's safety. At our school they have a student

health plan that is attached to the IEP. It addresses Dylan's unique

medical needs, including transportation, and informs staff of what to do in

specific situations.

Kim

> Hi everyone,

> As most of you know i work as a one-to-one aide and transportaion aide

> for my local school district. On the bus we are given no health information on

> the children. We have a child that uses a wheelchair and the other day we were

> doing practice emergency evacuations. I asked the physical therapist who works

> with his if incase of an emergency does he have any mobility or does he need

> full assistance. The PT told me she can not provide this information, i am not

> aloud to know because of the privacy act. I understand privacy but isn't this

> taking it a little to far, this involves the childs saftey. Do you all think

> it is ridiculus or am i over reacting? Lucille

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would speak to the teacher as a start and see if something can be added to

her IEP addressing mobility concerns in school transportation. Tell her

what you are worried about, then hopefully she will take the ball to put

things in place for the child's safety. At our school they have a student

health plan that is attached to the IEP. It addresses Dylan's unique

medical needs, including transportation, and informs staff of what to do in

specific situations.

Kim

> Hi everyone,

> As most of you know i work as a one-to-one aide and transportaion aide

> for my local school district. On the bus we are given no health information on

> the children. We have a child that uses a wheelchair and the other day we were

> doing practice emergency evacuations. I asked the physical therapist who works

> with his if incase of an emergency does he have any mobility or does he need

> full assistance. The PT told me she can not provide this information, i am not

> aloud to know because of the privacy act. I understand privacy but isn't this

> taking it a little to far, this involves the childs saftey. Do you all think

> it is ridiculus or am i over reacting? Lucille

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It is rediculous. You should go back and say, if you don't tell me if this

child can or can't physically get himself to safty, then they are putting

the child in more danger than the child already is in.

Sincerely yours; Krista Bach.

>From: 1304@...

>Reply-To: CHARGE

>To: CHARGE

>Subject: (no subject)

>Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 21:43:38 EDT

>

>Hi everyone,

> As most of you know i work as a one-to-one aide and transportaion aide

>for my local school district. On the bus we are given no health information

>on

>the children. We have a child that uses a wheelchair and the other day we

>were

>doing practice emergency evacuations. I asked the physical therapist who

>works

>with his if incase of an emergency does he have any mobility or does he

>need

>full assistance. The PT told me she can not provide this information, i am

>not

>aloud to know because of the privacy act. I understand privacy but isn't

>this

>taking it a little to far, this involves the childs saftey. Do you all

>think

>it is ridiculus or am i over reacting? Lucille

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Our son n is 13yrs old. Some jobs we have developed at his school are:

Collecting library books from all of the class rooms in a wagon and

delivering them to the library. We have him count the books 2, 3 or 4 at a time

before he deposits them in the shoot. The local Grocery outlet has them in the

store two times per week to help stock product from frozen foods to canned

goods.

The kids and para pros take our local Link transit bus to the store. The

also wash the table in the cafeteria and empty garbage. Our kids also go to a

variety of restaurants and order off the picture menu, of course we use sign

and picture communication on all of these examples and include math where ever

possible. Most of these ideas came from our state deaf blind specialist. AMEN!

I would love to hear others imput on what they are all doing.

The kids also go bowling, horse back riding, and swimming. The kids

participate in regular PE, wood shop and home EC. classes with general Ed and of

course they modify what are kids do in comparison to what the reg class does.

wood

shop they mostly hammer and take things apart. The activities can be safe

for everyone.

Thank for a great question.

Sundi

Louie husband, n 13 charger, Mike 11, 1

[Guest guest]

We had our prescription faxed to Washington last night. I'm really anxious to try it out, I have a friend with a 15 year old with autism who has a secondary diagnosis of schizoprenia. She has had him on it for a bit over a week and has been astounded by his improvement. Asking questions about her, her friends, her day, people she didn't even realize that he was aware of, he had previously fluctuated in and out of semi-catatonia (that started over the summer) and has come out of that, and she said his more inappropriate behaviours have all but stopped. We are going to start the Respen-A after a few weeks on OLE, as I think my son is also chronically viral.Good luck, I'm hoping this will be the thing we've been praying for!