Guest guest Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Hi Group, I'm looking for suggestions on how to handle the following: We have an orthopedic group who has recently, that I am aware of, been telling their patients who requested to come see me " they are Ok, but for this problem you need to go to the other physical therapy place " . There is another OP PT clinic in town, owned by a PTA who used to work with this group of orthopedic surgeons in a different PT clinic in a nearby town. So, they have a relationship that I have not had with them. They used to refer to us and were happy with the results and told patients about how good we were. I understand the them wanting to refer to their buddies, but now it has gone further than that, it feels to me like they are telling their patients and citizens of my community that we do not have the skills or knowledge to treat a simple ankle sprain or a piriformis syndrome, that bothers me. They are telling their patients who requested us not to come, isn't there some illegality here? I'd like to know how best to handle this situation. Is there some policy/ruling regarding these slanderous actions? What is the best way to communicate my concerns to these physicians? Thanks for your help. Lydia Radosevich, PT Ruidoso, NM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 We have the same issue as we have 2 physician owned clinics in our city along with a hospital and a handful of corporate owned or satellite clinics. We are the only Private PT practice so we pretty much stay in front of the community and have gotten very involved. We make it a point to inform our patients that if they need care and feel that we have provided them the best care to request to come to us/back to us. We even half jokingly throw out the old " they will probably try to send you to their clinic " but you can choose since it is your insurance and your copay! We also then tell patients going to the physician to tell the physician that we said hello and how much they enjoy our services. 9 times out of 10 this works beautifully and the patient returns to our office even if a referral coordinator tries to set them up at their own clinic. Half the time the physician has no idea where their patients are going. Just stay in front of your current and former patients and let them know your survival depends on their telling everyone about you. One last story to share, 7 years ago I walked out to our lobby to clean up at the end of the day and was surprised to see a family physician from our area sitting there. I greeted him and asked if there was something I could do for him. He informed me he was here for his 5:30 initial eval. I was a little uneasy as I thought we had messed up and not put him in the schedule by accident. Not wanting to turn down his request to be seen I saw him, got him feeling better immediately during that visit and had him on his way. As he was leaving he thanked me, informed me he would definitely send all of patients who needed PT our way and walked out. Here is where it gets interesting. I called his office the next day to see if there was a mix up on our end. I was informed by this physicians own " gatekeeper " referral coordinator that even though he had requested to come to our clinic she had scheduled him at the Hospital. She flat out told me that she refers all of their patients to the hospital's outpatient PT because since they are part of the Hospital system it will eventually come back to help her in the end. We even went to that office and did a lunch a few months later. The physician greeted us with a big smile and asked how his patients were doing? I told him about the referral coordinator and he looked at me with a blank stare in disbelief. To this day we have never received another patient referral, oh and that was the last lunch we ever did in a physician office. Sometimes there isn't anything you can do but just stay the course, build a connection with your clients, and provide exceptional care! In health, Boyle, DPT Gaston Rehab Associates Sent from my iPhone Cell: (704)241-0889 www.gastonrehabassociates.com > Hi Group, > I'm looking for suggestions on how to handle the following: We have an > orthopedic group who has recently, that I am aware of, been telling their > patients who requested to come see me " they are Ok, but for this problem you > need to go to the other physical therapy place " . There is another OP PT clinic > in town, owned by a PTA who used to work with this group of orthopedic surgeons > in a different PT clinic in a nearby town. So, they have a relationship that I > have not had with them. They used to refer to us and were happy with the results > and told patients about how good we were. I understand the them wanting to refer > to their buddies, but now it has gone further than that, it feels to me like > they are telling their patients and citizens of my community that we do not have > the skills or knowledge to treat a simple ankle sprain or a piriformis syndrome, > that bothers me. They are telling their patients who requested us not to come, > isn't there some illegality here? > I'd like to know how best to handle this situation. Is there some policy/ruling > regarding these slanderous actions? > What is the best way to communicate my concerns to these physicians? > Thanks for your help. > Lydia Radosevich, PT > Ruidoso, NM > > > > ------------------------------------ > > In ALL messages to PTManager you must identify yourself, your discipline and your location or else your message will not be approved to send to the full group. > > Physician Self Referal/Referral for Profit {POPTS} is a serious threat to our professions. PTManager is not available to support POPTS-model practices. The description of PTManager group includes the following: > " PTManager believes in and supports Therapist-owned Therapy Practices ONLY " > Messages relating to " how to set up a POPTS " will not be approved > > PTManager encourages participation in your professional association. Join APTA, AOTA or ASHA and participate now! > > Follow Kovacek, PT on Facebook or Twitter. > PTManager blog: http://ptmanager.posterous.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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