Re: Waffle Day (OT)/Prohibition

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Thinking about the hiding of cream and other ingredients not allowed during Lent inside the bread bun, I just remembered how Swedes handled our very own Prohibition. Like the US had a Prohibition during the early 20th century (was it 1920's and 1930's?), Sweden had it's own. Only here it was coffee that was prohibited, not alcohol, and the time period was 18th century (on and off during all of that century). Not that it stopped people in general from meeting for coffee, all you needed was the presence of a woman with skirts big enough to hide coffee pot and mugs etc should the police make a razzia. A man could have had room to hide a coffee mug, or perhaps even a coffee pot, under his coat – but the unambiguous smell of coffee would make the police search him, so that wouldn't work. With a woman, however, any police officer would of course be too much of a gentleman to come anywhere near her skirts, no matter how strong the smell of coffee... There where even particular sorts of crinolines (stiff underskirts) with hangers for mugs and pot.. love/Reb> > > Today is the Feast of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin, in the> > > Christian calendar. In Swedish that's "Vår fru dagen" (ie. The> day of> > > our lady). But for very long it has been known in Sweden as Waffle> Day,> > > a day to eat waffles and celebrate spring. Or at least eat> waffles...> > > The reason for that is said to be that if you say "Vår fru dagen"> > > really fast in Swedish it will sound life "Våffeldagen "(The> Waffle> > > Day"), and hence the people of the old days simply and innocently> > > thought that the holiday was about waffles... OK. So you may have to> say> > > it REALLY fast. And be slightly intoxicxated... But still, an easy> > > mistake to make... Or, perhaps rather: What don't you do to get an> > > excuse to eat waffles during Lent (the time of fasting and> > > abstinence). . .> > >> > > In fact, I have a feeling that the Swedes of the old time were not> the> > > best at observing Lent (and fasting). Another old food tradition we> have> > > during this period is the pastry "Semla", older name "Fastlagsbulle"> > > (ie. Lent bread roll). It's a bread roll (wheat bread) where you> have> > > cut off a "lid", taken out part of the inside and replaced it with> > > whipped cream and almond paste, and then put back the "lid". And> voila:> > > You have what look like a plain (and innocent...) bread roll, the> only> > > kind of indulgence allowed during Lent (in the old days), but what,> of> > > course, is something else entirely... Sweets with our coffee? Oh,> no,> > > not us, we are faithfully observing Lent...Having nothing but> > > our..hrmm..Lent bread rolls...> > >> > > love> > > /Reb - having waffles for dinner tonight, I think...> > >> >> >> > ------------------------------------> >> >

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A coffee prohibition? Wow, that is something new to me. I wonder how

many people got burnt in unmentionable places. That would be one

wicked steam burn.

Jolie

> Thinking about the hiding of cream and other ingredients not allowed

> during Lent inside the bread bun, I just remembered how Swedes handled

> our very own Prohibition. Like the US had a Prohibition during the early

> 20th century (was it 1920's and 1930's?), Sweden had it's own. Only here

> it was coffee that was prohibited, not alcohol, and the time period was

> 18th century (on and off during all of that century). Not that it

> stopped people in general from meeting for coffee, all you needed was

> the presence of a woman with skirts big enough to hide coffee pot and

> mugs etc should the police make a razzia. A man could have had room to

> hide a coffee mug, or perhaps even a coffee pot, under his coat –

> but the unambiguous smell of coffee would make the police search him, so

> that wouldn't work. With a woman, however, any police officer would of

> course be too much of a gentleman to come anywhere near her skirts, no

> matter how strong the smell of coffee... There where even particular

> sorts of crinolines (stiff underskirts) with hangers for mugs and pot..

>

> love

> /Reb

>

>

>> > > Today is the Feast of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin, in

> the

>> > > Christian calendar. In Swedish that's " Vår fru dagen " (ie. The

>> day of

>> > > our lady). But for very long it has been known in Sweden as Waffle

>> Day,

>> > > a day to eat waffles and celebrate spring. Or at least eat

>> waffles...

>> > > The reason for that is said to be that if you say " Vår fru

> dagen "

>> > > really fast in Swedish it will sound life " Våffeldagen " (The

>> Waffle

>> > > Day " ), and hence the people of the old days simply and innocently

>> > > thought that the holiday was about waffles... OK. So you may have

> to

>> say

>> > > it REALLY fast. And be slightly intoxicxated... But still, an easy

>> > > mistake to make... Or, perhaps rather: What don't you do to get an

>> > > excuse to eat waffles during Lent (the time of fasting and

>> > > abstinence). . .

>> > >

>> > > In fact, I have a feeling that the Swedes of the old time were not

>> the

>> > > best at observing Lent (and fasting). Another old food tradition

> we

>> have

>> > > during this period is the pastry " Semla " , older name

> " Fastlagsbulle "

>> > > (ie. Lent bread roll). It's a bread roll (wheat bread) where you

>> have

>> > > cut off a " lid " , taken out part of the inside and replaced it with

>> > > whipped cream and almond paste, and then put back the " lid " . And

>> voila:

>> > > You have what look like a plain (and innocent...) bread roll, the

>> only

>> > > kind of indulgence allowed during Lent (in the old days), but

> what,

>> of

>> > > course, is something else entirely... Sweets with our coffee? Oh,

>> no,

>> > > not us, we are faithfully observing Lent...Having nothing but

>> > > our..hrmm..Lent bread rolls...

>> > >

>> > > love

>> > > /Reb - having waffles for dinner tonight, I think...

>> > >

>> >

>> >

>> > ------------------------------------

>> >

>> >

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Re: Waffle Day (OT)/Prohibition

Thinking about the hiding of cream and other ingredients not allowed during Lent inside the bread bun, I just remembered how Swedes handled our very own Prohibition. Like the US had a Prohibition during the early 20th century (was it 1920's and 1930's?), Sweden had it's own. Only here it was coffee that was prohibited, not alcohol, and the time period was 18th century (on and off during all of that century). Not that it stopped people in general from meeting for coffee, all you needed was the presence of a woman with skirts big enough to hide coffee pot and mugs etc should the police make a razzia. A man could have had room to hide a coffee mug, or perhaps=2

0even a coffee pot, under his coat – but the unambiguous smell of coffee would make the police search him, so that wouldn't work. With a woman, however, any police officer would of course be too much of a gentleman to come anywhere near her skirts, no matter how strong the smell of coffee... There where even particular sorts of crinolines (stiff underskirts) with hangers for mugs and pot..

love

/Reb

> > > Today is the Feast of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin, in the

> > > Christian calendar. In Swedish that's "VÃ¥r fru dagen" (ie. The

> day of

> > > our lady). But for very long it has been known in Sweden as Waffle

> Day,

> > > a day to eat waffles and celebrate spring. Or at least eat

> waffle

s...

> > > The reason for that is said to be that if you say "VÃ¥r fru dagen"

> > > really fast in Swedish it will sound life "VÃ¥ffeldagen "(The

> Waffle

> > > Day"), and hence the people of the old days simply and innocently

> > > thought that the holiday was about waffles... OK. So you may have to

> say

> > > it REALLY fast. And be slightly intoxicxated... But still, an easy

> > > mistake to make... Or, perhaps rather: What don't you do to get an

> > > excuse to eat waffles during Lent (the time of fasting and

> > > abstinence). . .

> > >

> > > In fact, I have a feeling that the Swedes of the old time were not

> the

> > > best at observing Lent (and fasting). Another old food tradition we

> have

> > > during this period is the pastry "Semla", older name "Fastlagsbulle"

> > > (ie. Lent bread roll). It's a bread roll (wheat bread) where you

> have

> > > cut off a "lid", taken out part of the inside and replaced it with

> > > whipped cream and almond paste, and then put back the "lid". And

> voila:

> > > You have what look like a plain (and innocent...) bread roll, the

> only

> > > kind of indulgence allowed during Lent (in the old days), but what,

> of

> > > course, is something else entirely... Swee

ts with our coffee? Oh,

> no,

> > > not us, we are faithfully observing Lent...Having nothing but

> > > our..hrmm..Lent bread rolls...

> > >

> > > love

> > > /Reb - having waffles for dinner tonight, I think...

> > >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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yes, SOME burn... Let's hope they had sensible undergarments to protect them...love/Reb> >> > > Today is the Feast of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin, in> > the> >> > > Christian calendar. In Swedish that's "Vår fru dagen" (ie. The> >> day of> >> > > our lady). But for very long it has been known in Sweden as Waffle> >> Day,> >> > > a day to eat waffles and celebrate spring. Or at least eat> >> waffles...> >> > > The reason for that is said to be that if you say "Vår fru> > dagen"> >> > > really fast in Swedish it will sound life "Våffeldagen "(The> >> Waffle> >> > > Day"), and hence the people of the old days simply and innocently> >> > > thought that the holiday was about waffles... OK. So you may have> > to> >> say> >> > > it REALLY fast. And be slightly intoxicxated... But still, an easy> >> > > mistake to make... Or, perhaps rather: What don't you do to get an> >> > > excuse to eat waffles during Lent (the time of fasting and> >> > > abstinence). . .> >> > >> >> > > In fact, I have a feeling that the Swedes of the old time were not> >> the> >> > > best at observing Lent (and fasting). Another old food tradition> > we> >> have> >> > > during this period is the pastry "Semla", older name> > "Fastlagsbulle"> >> > > (ie. Lent bread roll). It's a bread roll (wheat bread) where you> >> have> >> > > cut off a "lid", taken out part of the inside and replaced it with> >> > > whipped cream and almond paste, and then put back the "lid". And> >> voila:> >> > > You have what look like a plain (and innocent...) bread roll, the> >> only> >> > > kind of indulgence allowed during Lent (in the old days), but> > what,> >> of> >> > > course, is something else entirely... Sweets with our coffee? Oh,> >> no,> >> > > not us, we are faithfully observing Lent...Having nothing but> >> > > our..hrmm..Lent bread rolls...> >> > >> >> > > love> >> > > /Reb - having waffles for dinner tonight, I think...> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------> >> >> >> >

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Well, first of all as an act of protectionism, wanting to avoid import (not that I am sure what Swedish products would be threatened by the competition, we don't have the climate to grow our own coffee, or regular tea for that matter). But, at least that was the explanation given. But secondly, it was also because the 18th century was a century of political and social upheaval, and of new radical ideas, in Europe. The century did see the French revolution, 1789, but those ideas started earlier than that, and were never contained to just France. Fact is, they weren't contained to Europe either, but spread to the colonies: That same century also saw the upheaval in the British colonies of America, and the consequential birth of the United States of America (not that I need to lecture you on that...). And in Sweden at least (perhaps in other countries as well), the place where people would meet to discuss these new ideas where the "coffee houses", recently invented and very fashionable places in the big cities. Hence, coffee came to be associated with revolutionary ideas, and if you could stop the drink, perhaps you could stop the ideas as well...love/Reb> > > > Today is the Feast of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin, in the> > > > Christian calendar. In Swedish that's "VÃ¥r fru dagen" (ie. The> > day of> > > > our lady). But for very long it has been known in Sweden as Waffle> > Day,> > > > a day to eat waffles and celebrate spring. Or at least eat> > waffles...> > > > The reason for that is said to be that if you say "VÃ¥r fru dagen"> > > > really fast in Swedish it will sound life "VÃ¥ffeldagen "(The> > Waffle> > > > Day"), and hence the people of the old days simply and innocently> > > > thought that the holiday was about waffles... OK. So you may have to> > say> > > > it REALLY fast. And be slightly intoxicxated... But still, an easy> > > > mistake to make... Or, perhaps rather: What don't you do to get an> > > > excuse to eat waffles during Lent (the time of fasting and> > > > abstinence). . .> > > >> > > > In fact, I have a feeling that the Swedes of the old time were not> > the> > > > best at observing Lent (and fasting). Another old food tradition we> > have> > > > during this period is the pastry "Semla", older name "Fastlagsbulle"> > > > (ie. Lent bread roll). It's a bread roll (wheat bread) where you> > have> > > > cut off a "lid", taken out part of the > inside and replaced it with> > > > whipped cream and almond paste, and then put back the "lid". And> > voila:> > > > You have what look like a plain (and innocent...) bread roll, the> > only> > > > kind of indulgence allowed during Lent (in the old days), but what,> > of> > > > course, is something else entirely... Sweets with our coffee? Oh,> > no,> > > > not us, we are faithfully observing Lent...Having nothing but> > > > our..hrmm..Lent bread rolls...> > > >> > > > love> > > > /Reb - having waffles for dinner tonight, I think...> > > >> > >> > >> > > ------------------------------------> > >> > >

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Re: Waffle Day (OT)/Prohibition

yes, SOME burn... Let's hope they had sensible undergarments to protect them...love/Reb> >> > > Today is the Feast of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin, in> > the> >> > > Christian calendar. In Swedish that's "V�r fru dagen" (ie. The> >> day of> >> > > our lady). But for very long it has been known in Sweden as Waffle> >> Day,> >> > > a day to eat waffles and celebrate spring. Or at least eat> >> waffles...> >> > > The reason for that is said to be that if you say "V�r fru> > dagen"> >> > > really fast in Swedish it will sound life "V�ffeldagen "(The> >> Waffle> >> > > Day"), and hence the people of the old days simply and innocently> >> > > thought that the holiday was about waffles... OK. So you may have> > to> >> say> >> > > it REALLY fast. And be slightly intoxicxated... But still, an easy> >> > > mistake to make... Or, perhaps rather: What don't you do to get an> >> > > excuse to eat waffles during Lent (the time of fasting and> >> > > abstinence). . .> >> > >> >> > > In fact, I have a feeling that the Swedes of the old time were not> >> the> >> > > best at observing Lent (and fasting). Another old food tradition> > we> >> have> >> > > during this period is the pastry "Semla", older name> > "Fastlagsbulle"> >> > > (ie. Lent bread roll). It's a bread roll (wheat bread) where you> >> have> >> > > cut off a "lid", taken out part of the inside and replaced it with> >> > > whipped cream and almond paste, and then put back the "lid". And> >> voila:> >> > > You have what look like a plain (and innocent...) bread roll, the> >> only> >> > > kind of indulgence allowed during Lent (in the old days), but> > what,> >> of> >> > > course, is something else entirely... Sweets with our coffee? Oh,> >> no,> >> > > not us, we are faithfully observing Lent...Having nothing but> >> > > our..hrmm..Lent bread rolls...> >> > >> >> > > love> >> > > /Reb - having waffles for dinner tonight, I think...> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------> >> >> >> >

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Re: Waffle Day (OT)/Prohibition

Thinking about the hiding of cream and other ingredients not allowed during Lent inside the bread bun, I just remembered how Swedes handled our very own Prohibition. Like the US had a Prohibition during the early 20th century (was it 1920's and 1930's?), Sweden had it's own. Only here it was coffee that was prohibited, not alcohol, and the time period was 18th century (on and off during all of that century). Not that it stopped people in general from meeting for coffee, all you needed was the presence of a woman with skirts big enough to hide coffee pot and mugs etc should the police make a razzia. A man could have had room to hide a coffee mug, or perhaps=2 0even a coffee pot, under his coat – but the unambiguous smell of coffee would make the police search him, so that wouldn't work. With a woman, however, any police officer would of course be too much of a gentleman to come anywhere near her skirts, no matter how strong the smell of coffee... There where even particular sorts of crinolines (stiff underskirts) with hangers for mugs and pot.. love/Reb> > > Today is the Feast of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin, in the> > > Christian calendar. In Swedish that's "Vår fru dagen" (ie. The> day of> > > our lady). But for very long it has been known in Sweden as Waffle> Day,> > > a day to eat waffles and celebrate spring. Or at least eat> waffle s...> > > The reason for that is said to be that if you say "Vår fru dagen"> > > really fast in Swedish it will sound life "Våffeldagen "(The> Waffle> > > Day"), and hence the people of the old days simply and innocently> > > thought that the holiday was about waffles... OK. So you may have to> say> > > it REALLY fast. And be slightly intoxicxated... But still, an easy> > > mistake to make... Or, perhaps rather: What don't you do to get an> > > excuse to eat waffles during Lent (the time of fasting and> > > abstinence). . .> > >> > > In fact, I have a feeling that the Swedes of the old time were not> the> > > best at observing Lent (and fasting). Another old food tradition we> have> > > during this period is the pastry "Semla", older name "Fastlagsbulle"> > > (ie. Lent bread roll). It's a bread roll (wheat bread) where you> have> > > cut off a "lid", taken out part of the inside and replaced it with> > > whipped cream and almond paste, and then put back the "lid". And> voila:> > > You have what look like a plain (and innocent...) bread roll, the> only> > > kind of indulgence allowed during Lent (in the old days), but what,> of> > > course, is something else entirely... Swee ts with our coffee? Oh,> no,> > > not us, we are faithfully observing Lent...Having nothing but> > > our..hrmm..Lent bread rolls...> > >> > > love> > > /Reb - having waffles for dinner tonight, I think...> > >> >> >> > ------------------------------------> >> >

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Re: Waffle Day (OT)/Prohibition

Well, first of all as an act of protectionism, wanting to avoid import (not that I am sure what Swedish products would be threatened by the competition, we don't have the climate to grow our own coffee, or regular tea for that matter). But, at least that was the explanation given. But secondly, it was also because the 18th century was a century of political and social upheaval, and of new radical ideas, in Europe. The century did see the French revolution, 1789, but those ideas started earlier than that, and were never contained to just France. Fact is, they weren't contained to Europe either, but spread to the colonies: That same century also saw the upheaval in the British colonies of America, and the consequential birth of the United States of America (not that I need to lecture you on that...). And in Sweden at least (perhaps in other countries as well), the place where people would meet to discuss these new ideas where the "coffee houses", recently invented and very fashionable places in the big cities. Hence, coffee came to be associated with revolutionary ideas, and if you could stop the drink, perhaps you could stop the ideas as well...love/Reb> > > > Today is the Feast of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin, in the> > > > Christian calendar. In Swedish that's "VÃ¥r fru dagen" (ie. The> > day of> > > > our lady). But for very long it has been known in Sweden as Waffle> > Day,> > > > a day to eat waffles and celebrate spring. Or at least eat> > waffles...> > > > The reason for that is said to be that if you say "VÃ¥r fru dagen"> > > > really fast in Swedish it will sound life "VÃ¥ffeldagen "(The> > Waffle> > > > Day"), and hence the people of the old days simply and innocently> > > > thought that the holiday was about waffles... OK. So you may have to> > say> > > > it REALLY fast. And be slightly intoxicxated... But still, an easy> > > > mistake to make... Or, perhaps rather: What don't you do to get an> > > > excuse to eat waffles during Lent (the time of fasting and> > > > abstinence). . .> > > >> > > > In fact, I have a feeling that the Swedes of the old time were not> > the> > > > best at observing Lent (and fasting). Another old food tradition we> > have> > > > during this period is the pastry "Semla", older name "Fastlagsbulle"> > > > (ie. Lent bread roll). It's a bread roll (wheat bread) where you> > have> > > > cut off a "lid", taken out part of the > inside and replaced it with> > > > whipped cream and almond paste, and then put back the "lid". And> > voila:> > > > You have what look like a plain (and innocent...) bread roll, the> > only> > > > kind of indulgence allowed during Lent (in the old days), but what,> > of> > > > course, is something else entirely... Sweets with our coffee? Oh,> > no,> > > > not us, we are faithfully observing Lent...Having nothing but> > > > our..hrmm..Lent bread rolls...> > > >> > > > love> > > > /Reb - having waffles for dinner tonight, I think...> > > >> > >> > >> > > ------------------------------------> > >> > >

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I think I am beginning to get it why most of

Northern Europe drank tea, while the Italians

and Greeks drank coffee--much earlier, of

course.

I am nuts about coffee with cream or milk,

cheeses, all kinds and nuts, as in "tree nuts."

O.K. So, now we know why I am just "nuts"----

Love to you and to , Reb,

n

To: MSersLife Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:56:09 PMSubject: Re: Waffle Day (OT)/Prohibition

Well, first of all as an act of protectionism, wanting to avoid import (not that I am sure what Swedish products would be threatened by the competition, we don't have the climate to grow our own coffee, or regular tea for that matter). But, at least that was the explanation given. But secondly, it was also because the 18th century was a century of political and social upheaval, and of new radical ideas, in Europe. The century did see the French revolution, 1789, but those ideas started earlier than that, and were never contained to just France. Fact is, they weren't contained to Europe either, but spread to the colonies: That same century also saw the upheaval in the British colonies of America, and the consequential birth of the United States of America (not that I need to lecture you on that...). And in Sweden at least (perhaps in other countries as well), the place where people would meet to discuss these new ideas where the

"coffee houses", recently invented and very fashionable places in the big cities. Hence, coffee came to be associated with revolutionary ideas, and if you could stop the drink, perhaps you could stop the ideas as well...love/Reb

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I think I am beginning to get it why most of

Northern Europe drank tea, while the Italians

and Greeks drank coffee--much earlier, of

course.

I am nuts about coffee with cream or milk,

cheeses, all kinds and nuts, as in "tree nuts."

O.K. So, now we know why I am just "nuts"----

Love to you and to , Reb,

n

To: MSersLife Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:56:09 PMSubject: Re: Waffle Day (OT)/Prohibition

Well, first of all as an act of protectionism, wanting to avoid import (not that I am sure what Swedish products would be threatened by the competition, we don't have the climate to grow our own coffee, or regular tea for that matter). But, at least that was the explanation given. But secondly, it was also because the 18th century was a century of political and social upheaval, and of new radical ideas, in Europe. The century did see the French revolution, 1789, but those ideas started earlier than that, and were never contained to just France. Fact is, they weren't contained to Europe either, but spread to the colonies: That same century also saw the upheaval in the British colonies of America, and the consequential birth of the United States of America (not that I need to lecture you on that...). And in Sweden at least (perhaps in other countries as well), the place where people would meet to discuss these new ideas where the

"coffee houses", recently invented and very fashionable places in the big cities. Hence, coffee came to be associated with revolutionary ideas, and if you could stop the drink, perhaps you could stop the ideas as well...love/Reb

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Mmm. Maybe. Except that Sweden never had any colonies, unlike Britain. I'm thinking the protectionism was more of an excuse, and the political reasons were the real ones. love/Reb> > > > > Today is the Feast of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin, in the> > > > > Christian calendar. In Swedish that's "VÃ¥r fru dagen" (ie. The> > > day of> > > > > our lady). But for very long it has been known in Sweden as Waffle> > > Day,> > > > > a day to eat waffles and celebrate spring. Or at least eat> > > waffles...> > > > > The reason for that is said to be that if you say "VÃ¥r fru dagen"> > > > > really fast in Swedish it will sound life "VÃ¥ffeldagen "(The> > > Waffle> > > > > Day"), and hence the people of the old days simply and innocently> > > > > thought that the holiday was about waffles... OK. So you may have to> > > say> > > > > it REALLY fast. And be slightly intoxicxated... But still, an easy> > > > > mistake to make... Or, perhaps rather: What don't you do to get an> > > > > excuse to eat waffles during Lent (the time of fasting and> > > > > abstinence). . .> > > > >> > > > > In fact, I have a feeling that the Swedes of the old time were not> > > the> > > > > best at observing Lent (and fasting). Another old food tradition we> > > have> > > > > during this period is the pastry "Semla", older name "Fastlagsbulle"> > > > > (ie. Lent bread roll). It's a bread roll (wheat bread) where you> > > have> > > > > cut off a "lid", taken out part of the > > inside and replaced it with> > > > > whipped cream and almond paste, and then put back the "lid". And> > > voila:> > > > > You have what look like a plain (and innocent...) bread roll, the> > > only> > > > > kind of indulgence allowed during Lent (in the old days), but what,> > > of> > > > > course, is something else entirely... Sweets with our coffee? Oh,> > > no,> > > > > not us, we are faithfully observing Lent...Having nothing but> > > > > our..hrmm..Lent bread rolls...> > > > >> > > > > love> > > > > /Reb - having waffles for dinner tonight, I think...> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------------------------------> > > >> > > >

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Actually, tea and coffee came to Sweden in about the same time. What on earth they had before that I have no idea, how do you live without either coffee or tea?! I am nuts about both, myself... love/Reb>> I think I am beginning to get it why most of > Northern Europe drank tea, while the Italians> and Greeks drank coffee--much earlier, of > course.> I am nuts about coffee with cream or milk,> cheeses, all kinds and nuts, as in "tree nuts."> O.K. So, now we know why I am just "nuts"----> Love to you and to , Reb,> n> > > > > ________________________________> To: MSersLife > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:56:09 PM> Subject: Re: Waffle Day (OT)/Prohibition> > > Well, first of all as an act of protectionism, wanting to avoid import (not that I am sure what Swedish products would be threatened by the competition, we don't have the climate to grow our own coffee, or regular tea for that matter). But, at least that was the explanation given. > > But secondly, it was also because the 18th century was a century of political and social upheaval, and of new radical ideas, in Europe. The century did see the French revolution, 1789, but those ideas started earlier than that, and were never contained to just France. Fact is, they weren't contained to Europe either, but spread to the colonies: That same century also saw the upheaval in the British colonies of America, and the consequential birth of the United States of America (not that I need to lecture you on that...). And in Sweden at least (perhaps in other countries as well), the place where people would meet to discuss these new ideas where the "coffee houses", recently invented and very fashionable places in the big cities. Hence, coffee came to be associated with revolutionary ideas, and if you could stop the drink, perhaps you could stop the ideas as well...> > love> /Reb> > > Recent Activity> * 1> New Members> * 1> New Photos> * 3> New FilesVisit Your Group > Give Back> Yahoo! for Good> Get inspired> by a good cause.> Y! Toolbar> Get it Free!> easy 1-click access> to your groups.> Yahoo! Groups> Start a group> in 3 easy steps.> Connect with others.> .>