article from Diabetes In control

[Guest guest]

I agree the present system needs to be fixed. I just don't happen to agree that

more government (i.e. socialized health care of some form) is the solution.

Dave

God doesn't hate sinners, just sin!

RE: article from Diabetes In control

Dave, & Listers,

I too have heard over and over again the horror stories of innocent people

trying to get approved for SS and either having to wait a long time or be

denied outright. These are people who are treated like liars, cheats and

criminals. When my wife and I moved out here to California, boy were we in

for a whirlwind of financial nightmares, because after leaving her job of 26

years, Bari found out the hard way that Unemployment doesn't pay if you

leave no matter what the reason (it was because I, we, wanted to move back

here to California to help take care of my ailing folks.) So there we were,

no job, just my SSDI and Bari having to wait at least 6 months before her

SSDI kicked in. And it would be two years until she would get MediCare. Boy

that was a long two years. In the meantime, we did find county assistance so

she could get some medical care, and fortunately she had a good doctor who

took very good care of her during that time, but still it was awful having

to go into a county clinic and wait all day for the appointment, sitting in

a very depressing waiting room that should have been comdemned 50 years ago.

After her two years were up, she finally got on MediCare, and eventually we

both were able to sign up for Scan Healthcare, which I must say is

wonderful, so thankfully we have decent care now. But what about the many

who DON'T? And I can't get over how the government expects you to wait 6

months without money, um, you live on WHAT during that time? State

assistance? Only if you're homeless I guess. It's a system that really has

to be fixed and is way long overdue.

Another example is my sister-in-law, Robin, who moved out here after leaving

her 20-year job to retire in California. Again, she applied right away for

SSDI but it's a 6 month wait, and she's still without medical coverage. Oh

she could have taken the COBRA from work, but at nearly $1,000 a month but

without income, she was going to afford that HOW? So again, the government

somehow expects you to get by on zilch until that magic 6 months is up. Go

figure. I guess they figure half the applicants will die of starvation in

the meantime thus lightening their rosters.

BTW, during the time she waited for SSDI, she applied for several kinds of

aid but you know what? These jamoaks would say you had to meet certain

income levels to even qualify, and NOT having an income was not one of them!

Those who have no income need it the most and are denied because of a

beaurocracy that says you HAVE to have some kind of income, but boy it

better not be much.

And to top this all off, (here I go on my grand soapbox), if you are an

illegal alien, you can come into this country and receive medical care,

UNQUESTIONED! No income requirements, just say the magic words, " illegal

immigrant " and you get a free pass, at OUR expense. But God forbid one of

our own needing support or medical care, we just don't have anything

available for you.

I am not a big fan of socialized medicine, but the freewheeling high-rising

cost of medicine in a pro-Pharma government regime that supports everything

the AMA dictates, is just not working and needs to be overhauled like 20-30

years ago!!! Even socialized medicine would be a step better than what we

have right now.

OK, now I feel better.blood pressure is decreasing..I'm gonna sit down and

sign off.. Whew! Sorry for the diabribe!

Bill Powers

[Guest guest]

I agree the present system needs to be fixed. I just don't happen to agree that

more government (i.e. socialized health care of some form) is the solution.

Dave

God doesn't hate sinners, just sin!

RE: article from Diabetes In control

Dave, & Listers,

I too have heard over and over again the horror stories of innocent people

trying to get approved for SS and either having to wait a long time or be

denied outright. These are people who are treated like liars, cheats and

criminals. When my wife and I moved out here to California, boy were we in

for a whirlwind of financial nightmares, because after leaving her job of 26

years, Bari found out the hard way that Unemployment doesn't pay if you

leave no matter what the reason (it was because I, we, wanted to move back

here to California to help take care of my ailing folks.) So there we were,

no job, just my SSDI and Bari having to wait at least 6 months before her

SSDI kicked in. And it would be two years until she would get MediCare. Boy

that was a long two years. In the meantime, we did find county assistance so

she could get some medical care, and fortunately she had a good doctor who

took very good care of her during that time, but still it was awful having

to go into a county clinic and wait all day for the appointment, sitting in

a very depressing waiting room that should have been comdemned 50 years ago.

After her two years were up, she finally got on MediCare, and eventually we

both were able to sign up for Scan Healthcare, which I must say is

wonderful, so thankfully we have decent care now. But what about the many

who DON'T? And I can't get over how the government expects you to wait 6

months without money, um, you live on WHAT during that time? State

assistance? Only if you're homeless I guess. It's a system that really has

to be fixed and is way long overdue.

Another example is my sister-in-law, Robin, who moved out here after leaving

her 20-year job to retire in California. Again, she applied right away for

SSDI but it's a 6 month wait, and she's still without medical coverage. Oh

she could have taken the COBRA from work, but at nearly $1,000 a month but

without income, she was going to afford that HOW? So again, the government

somehow expects you to get by on zilch until that magic 6 months is up. Go

figure. I guess they figure half the applicants will die of starvation in

the meantime thus lightening their rosters.

BTW, during the time she waited for SSDI, she applied for several kinds of

aid but you know what? These jamoaks would say you had to meet certain

income levels to even qualify, and NOT having an income was not one of them!

Those who have no income need it the most and are denied because of a

beaurocracy that says you HAVE to have some kind of income, but boy it

better not be much.

And to top this all off, (here I go on my grand soapbox), if you are an

illegal alien, you can come into this country and receive medical care,

UNQUESTIONED! No income requirements, just say the magic words, " illegal

immigrant " and you get a free pass, at OUR expense. But God forbid one of

our own needing support or medical care, we just don't have anything

available for you.

I am not a big fan of socialized medicine, but the freewheeling high-rising

cost of medicine in a pro-Pharma government regime that supports everything

the AMA dictates, is just not working and needs to be overhauled like 20-30

years ago!!! Even socialized medicine would be a step better than what we

have right now.

OK, now I feel better.blood pressure is decreasing..I'm gonna sit down and

sign off.. Whew! Sorry for the diabribe!

Bill Powers

[Guest guest]

I agree the present system needs to be fixed. I just don't happen to agree that

more government (i.e. socialized health care of some form) is the solution.

Dave

God doesn't hate sinners, just sin!

RE: article from Diabetes In control

Dave, & Listers,

I too have heard over and over again the horror stories of innocent people

trying to get approved for SS and either having to wait a long time or be

denied outright. These are people who are treated like liars, cheats and

criminals. When my wife and I moved out here to California, boy were we in

for a whirlwind of financial nightmares, because after leaving her job of 26

years, Bari found out the hard way that Unemployment doesn't pay if you

leave no matter what the reason (it was because I, we, wanted to move back

here to California to help take care of my ailing folks.) So there we were,

no job, just my SSDI and Bari having to wait at least 6 months before her

SSDI kicked in. And it would be two years until she would get MediCare. Boy

that was a long two years. In the meantime, we did find county assistance so

she could get some medical care, and fortunately she had a good doctor who

took very good care of her during that time, but still it was awful having

to go into a county clinic and wait all day for the appointment, sitting in

a very depressing waiting room that should have been comdemned 50 years ago.

After her two years were up, she finally got on MediCare, and eventually we

both were able to sign up for Scan Healthcare, which I must say is

wonderful, so thankfully we have decent care now. But what about the many

who DON'T? And I can't get over how the government expects you to wait 6

months without money, um, you live on WHAT during that time? State

assistance? Only if you're homeless I guess. It's a system that really has

to be fixed and is way long overdue.

Another example is my sister-in-law, Robin, who moved out here after leaving

her 20-year job to retire in California. Again, she applied right away for

SSDI but it's a 6 month wait, and she's still without medical coverage. Oh

she could have taken the COBRA from work, but at nearly $1,000 a month but

without income, she was going to afford that HOW? So again, the government

somehow expects you to get by on zilch until that magic 6 months is up. Go

figure. I guess they figure half the applicants will die of starvation in

the meantime thus lightening their rosters.

BTW, during the time she waited for SSDI, she applied for several kinds of

aid but you know what? These jamoaks would say you had to meet certain

income levels to even qualify, and NOT having an income was not one of them!

Those who have no income need it the most and are denied because of a

beaurocracy that says you HAVE to have some kind of income, but boy it

better not be much.

And to top this all off, (here I go on my grand soapbox), if you are an

illegal alien, you can come into this country and receive medical care,

UNQUESTIONED! No income requirements, just say the magic words, " illegal

immigrant " and you get a free pass, at OUR expense. But God forbid one of

our own needing support or medical care, we just don't have anything

available for you.

I am not a big fan of socialized medicine, but the freewheeling high-rising

cost of medicine in a pro-Pharma government regime that supports everything

the AMA dictates, is just not working and needs to be overhauled like 20-30

years ago!!! Even socialized medicine would be a step better than what we

have right now.

OK, now I feel better.blood pressure is decreasing..I'm gonna sit down and

sign off.. Whew! Sorry for the diabribe!

Bill Powers