Re: YEAST!!! ggrrrr...

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm curious ... do you know what causes the infection? Is it from

the yeast leaving the body? The vagina would be a " clearing out "

passageway.

What I mean is does the yeast cause the problem as it's leaving, or

does the infection just come from having too much in your body?

I don't know anything about this, but maybe somebody else does.

What I have noticed is that when I eat too much sugar (not on SCD),

I get itchy in some of those unmentionable places, plus stuffy nose,

and when it's REALLY bad, my ears start to ring!

Sue (from Pickering)

Mom to , 4.5, formerly? ASD, SCD since March '03

[Guest guest]

>Is it from

>the yeast leaving the body? The vagina would be a " clearing out "

>passageway.

Now if I thought that was the case, I'd be VERY happy! Get it OUTTA here!

Anyone know if this is possibly what's going on? TIA!!

in NC

Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate;

, age 3; and , 23 mos

All SCD since 1/26/04

No Mom is an island. but sometimes she needs one!

[Guest guest]

--

Hi Michele,

I have been on this list for some time, but I hardy ever post. I

have had GI issues myself, but with proper diet, I have been able to

lessen the symptoms. I eat cashews and other nuts and have never

had a problem with yeast,however when I consume a lot of fruit and

natural sugars then that is where I can get into trouble. My

reccomendation is to eat more vegetables and lean protein to flush

out the yeast, and to stay away from the sugars for a while to get

your normal flora back in balance. Also a good pro biotic and or

natural yogurt would help. Cheese also has a lot of mold and can

feed yeast. Hope this helps.

- In pecanbread , " McConnell " <ecmmbm@c...>

wrote:

> Ugh, this makes no sense to me and is extremely frustrating, so

beware!! May have to rant a bit here! ;.)

>

> Why on earth, when before SCD all I ate was breads, rice,

starches, etc, WHY would I all of a sudden NOW be battling yeast so

badly?? I went to the gyno today, convinced I had some awful

bacterial infection, it was so bad it literally kept me up all

night, and not responding to yeast treatments, but NOPE -just one

wicked yeast infection. UGH!! She gave me a really strong gel

prescription, I was leery of anything oral?

>

> So what is the deal? Why yeast NOW when I'm eating so well on

SCD??? The only things I can think of are this -

> I'm reading on a couple of " yeast " websites that " cashews have a

lot of yeast " . What the heck is up with that???? They are a nut!

I'm just confused, I thought yeast was in BREAD. Is this the reason

folks have been saying go easy on cashews? I never got a solid

answer on that (I'm not talking about the whole roasted/not roasted

nut butter discussion, I'm just talking about cashews in general).

Even Elaine, with ALL due respect, could not give me a firm reason

to " go easy on " them - she just said that they " tasted starchy to

her " and she recommended pecans. NOW, pecans are fine, but in a lot

of things, they do not have the taste/color/texture to " do it " for

Luke. And as far as he is concerned, how would I know if he's

having yeast issues? It's pretty obvious with ME, ick. But he

seems good, I'm thinking maybe yeast is not bad for him? What I'd

like to do is switch me over to almond, and continue to use cashew

and pecan with him (almonds are too high in sal's).

>

> The other thing - cheese?? Apparently cheese is an issue with

yeast? Cheese is one thing I can grab to snack on. Almost every

single day I have a few chunks of mild cheddar or havarti cheese

with some kind of fruit, grapes or an orange or a very ripe pear

(all of which I'm able to tolerate raw & peeled). So I need to back

off on cheese? Choices sure are slimming down here...

>

> Finally - GSE. I've been doing it for a few days and yet still

have this monster yeast infection. Should I continue it? Does it

take time? Or is it bogus and not doing anything for me?

>

> I LOVE SCD and how it's helping our tummies and Luke's ASD issues,

but the peripheral stuff is what gets on my nerves. HOWEVER... in

all my ranting, all I really want is answers so we can continue to

move in the right direction, so thanks for your patience.

>

> Praying for grace/patience/strength for us ALL!

> in NC

> Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate;

> , age 3; and , 23 mos

> All SCD since 1/26/04

>

> No Mom is an island. but sometimes she needs one!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

This does help, thank you. I'm calming down now. I just hate when a new issue

pops up, and I have to re-evaluate things yet again, I go through a " moment "

with myself over it all and then I just bear down and go with the flow. This is

very, very helpful, thank you.

in NC

Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate;

, age 3; and , 23 mos

All SCD since 1/26/04

No Mom is an island. but sometimes she needs one!

Re: YEAST!!! ggrrrr...

--

Hi Michele,

I have been on this list for some time, but I hardy ever post. I

have had GI issues myself, but with proper diet, I have been able to

lessen the symptoms. I eat cashews and other nuts and have never

had a problem with yeast,however when I consume a lot of fruit and

natural sugars then that is where I can get into trouble. My

reccomendation is to eat more vegetables and lean protein to flush

out the yeast, and to stay away from the sugars for a while to get

your normal flora back in balance. Also a good pro biotic and or

natural yogurt would help. Cheese also has a lot of mold and can

feed yeast. Hope this helps.

- In pecanbread , " McConnell " <ecmmbm@c...>

wrote:

> Ugh, this makes no sense to me and is extremely frustrating, so

beware!! May have to rant a bit here! ;.)

>

> Why on earth, when before SCD all I ate was breads, rice,

starches, etc, WHY would I all of a sudden NOW be battling yeast so

badly?? I went to the gyno today, convinced I had some awful

bacterial infection, it was so bad it literally kept me up all

night, and not responding to yeast treatments, but NOPE -just one

wicked yeast infection. UGH!! She gave me a really strong gel

prescription, I was leery of anything oral?

>

> So what is the deal? Why yeast NOW when I'm eating so well on

SCD??? The only things I can think of are this -

> I'm reading on a couple of " yeast " websites that " cashews have a

lot of yeast " . What the heck is up with that???? They are a nut!

I'm just confused, I thought yeast was in BREAD. Is this the reason

folks have been saying go easy on cashews? I never got a solid

answer on that (I'm not talking about the whole roasted/not roasted

nut butter discussion, I'm just talking about cashews in general).

Even Elaine, with ALL due respect, could not give me a firm reason

to " go easy on " them - she just said that they " tasted starchy to

her " and she recommended pecans. NOW, pecans are fine, but in a lot

of things, they do not have the taste/color/texture to " do it " for

Luke. And as far as he is concerned, how would I know if he's

having yeast issues? It's pretty obvious with ME, ick. But he

seems good, I'm thinking maybe yeast is not bad for him? What I'd

like to do is switch me over to almond, and continue to use cashew

and pecan with him (almonds are too high in sal's).

>

> The other thing - cheese?? Apparently cheese is an issue with

yeast? Cheese is one thing I can grab to snack on. Almost every

single day I have a few chunks of mild cheddar or havarti cheese

with some kind of fruit, grapes or an orange or a very ripe pear

(all of which I'm able to tolerate raw & peeled). So I need to back

off on cheese? Choices sure are slimming down here...

>

> Finally - GSE. I've been doing it for a few days and yet still

have this monster yeast infection. Should I continue it? Does it

take time? Or is it bogus and not doing anything for me?

>

> I LOVE SCD and how it's helping our tummies and Luke's ASD issues,

but the peripheral stuff is what gets on my nerves. HOWEVER... in

all my ranting, all I really want is answers so we can continue to

move in the right direction, so thanks for your patience.

>

> Praying for grace/patience/strength for us ALL!

> in NC

> Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate;

> , age 3; and , 23 mos

> All SCD since 1/26/04

>

> No Mom is an island. but sometimes she needs one!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

This does help, thank you. I'm calming down now. I just hate when a new issue

pops up, and I have to re-evaluate things yet again, I go through a " moment "

with myself over it all and then I just bear down and go with the flow. This is

very, very helpful, thank you.

in NC

Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate;

, age 3; and , 23 mos

All SCD since 1/26/04

No Mom is an island. but sometimes she needs one!

Re: YEAST!!! ggrrrr...

--

Hi Michele,

I have been on this list for some time, but I hardy ever post. I

have had GI issues myself, but with proper diet, I have been able to

lessen the symptoms. I eat cashews and other nuts and have never

had a problem with yeast,however when I consume a lot of fruit and

natural sugars then that is where I can get into trouble. My

reccomendation is to eat more vegetables and lean protein to flush

out the yeast, and to stay away from the sugars for a while to get

your normal flora back in balance. Also a good pro biotic and or

natural yogurt would help. Cheese also has a lot of mold and can

feed yeast. Hope this helps.

- In pecanbread , " McConnell " <ecmmbm@c...>

wrote:

> Ugh, this makes no sense to me and is extremely frustrating, so

beware!! May have to rant a bit here! ;.)

>

> Why on earth, when before SCD all I ate was breads, rice,

starches, etc, WHY would I all of a sudden NOW be battling yeast so

badly?? I went to the gyno today, convinced I had some awful

bacterial infection, it was so bad it literally kept me up all

night, and not responding to yeast treatments, but NOPE -just one

wicked yeast infection. UGH!! She gave me a really strong gel

prescription, I was leery of anything oral?

>

> So what is the deal? Why yeast NOW when I'm eating so well on

SCD??? The only things I can think of are this -

> I'm reading on a couple of " yeast " websites that " cashews have a

lot of yeast " . What the heck is up with that???? They are a nut!

I'm just confused, I thought yeast was in BREAD. Is this the reason

folks have been saying go easy on cashews? I never got a solid

answer on that (I'm not talking about the whole roasted/not roasted

nut butter discussion, I'm just talking about cashews in general).

Even Elaine, with ALL due respect, could not give me a firm reason

to " go easy on " them - she just said that they " tasted starchy to

her " and she recommended pecans. NOW, pecans are fine, but in a lot

of things, they do not have the taste/color/texture to " do it " for

Luke. And as far as he is concerned, how would I know if he's

having yeast issues? It's pretty obvious with ME, ick. But he

seems good, I'm thinking maybe yeast is not bad for him? What I'd

like to do is switch me over to almond, and continue to use cashew

and pecan with him (almonds are too high in sal's).

>

> The other thing - cheese?? Apparently cheese is an issue with

yeast? Cheese is one thing I can grab to snack on. Almost every

single day I have a few chunks of mild cheddar or havarti cheese

with some kind of fruit, grapes or an orange or a very ripe pear

(all of which I'm able to tolerate raw & peeled). So I need to back

off on cheese? Choices sure are slimming down here...

>

> Finally - GSE. I've been doing it for a few days and yet still

have this monster yeast infection. Should I continue it? Does it

take time? Or is it bogus and not doing anything for me?

>

> I LOVE SCD and how it's helping our tummies and Luke's ASD issues,

but the peripheral stuff is what gets on my nerves. HOWEVER... in

all my ranting, all I really want is answers so we can continue to

move in the right direction, so thanks for your patience.

>

> Praying for grace/patience/strength for us ALL!

> in NC

> Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate;

> , age 3; and , 23 mos

> All SCD since 1/26/04

>

> No Mom is an island. but sometimes she needs one!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> What I mean is does the yeast cause the problem as it's leaving, or

> does the infection just come from having too much in your body?

What about asking a yeast specialist, like Bill Shaw? Anyone able to

contact him? It might just be someone that can be contacted easily,

who knows? Would you like me to find out what his email address is,

perhaps?

I'm very interested in what he might have to say. He has done so much

research. It puzzles me totally. I do hope it is yeast battling its

way OUT, trying some last ugly thing...

Marjan

Netherlands

ps

hope you do have a good night's sleep now

[Guest guest]

I'm sure this is a stupid question because A) you have already taken

precausions or its not an issue, but... Could it be that you are

getting re-infected from the outside? I'm talking soap

(shower/laundry), hot weather, husband? I try not to use too much

probiotic because when I do then I get UTIs (if its not one thing its

the other, right?!?) But my hands get extremely dry and it isn't

taken care of by lotion, (such that they crack and bleed at knuckles)

and it itches. I'm thinking topical yeast. Its always worse when I

eat too much sugar.

>I'm also curious as to what the experts say...

Helen, mom to three, including (ASD, SCD 4 weeks)

>

[Guest guest]

I'm sure this is a stupid question because A) you have already taken

precausions or its not an issue, but... Could it be that you are

getting re-infected from the outside? I'm talking soap

(shower/laundry), hot weather, husband? I try not to use too much

probiotic because when I do then I get UTIs (if its not one thing its

the other, right?!?) But my hands get extremely dry and it isn't

taken care of by lotion, (such that they crack and bleed at knuckles)

and it itches. I'm thinking topical yeast. Its always worse when I

eat too much sugar.

>I'm also curious as to what the experts say...

Helen, mom to three, including (ASD, SCD 4 weeks)

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Helen, I am trying to take those precautions..

Did you get an answer from me on your private email? I sent it but wasn't

sure it went through, can't remember now exactly what happened, who knows,

just wondering if it went through.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Helen, I am trying to take those precautions..

Did you get an answer from me on your private email? I sent it but wasn't

sure it went through, can't remember now exactly what happened, who knows,

just wondering if it went through.

[Guest guest]

> Thanks Helen, I am trying to take those precautions..

>

> Did you get an answer from me on your private email?

No

Although I am quite sure he is sensitive to the salicylates. I can

now see the difference from calm, organized, focused to ADHD within

hours. Unfortunately the hyperactivity turns to irritability for

like 3 days. So much for strawberries....

Helen

[Guest guest]

A few thoughts:

You (everyone) always has some yeast in their bodies. So the idea of

truly getting rid of it is a misnomer- something we say, but will

never truly be (and we don't want it to be, because yeast is part of

the natural balance of the gut, and probably teh female genital

tract - not sure on that one). It is only a problem when there

is " overgrowth " - more than there should be (whatever that number

is).

There is a ton of info on the net about yeast, search on Candida.

Many books/practitioners caution against the use of cheese (moldy=

fungus, yeast is a fungus), peanuts (again, mold) chocolate, apple,

banana, sugars, vinegar (and all fermented foods), mushrooms

(fungus) and I don't remember what all else as well as breads while

trying to get rid of yeast. Elaine tends to have a different view,

but IMO, Elaine and her method are a SLOW, LONG TERM method (I think

should would agree to some extent). I don't remember a cashew

caution, but ADam couldn't eat them at one time, so I was not

looking for it. I do know they are supposed to have more carbs than

other nuts, hence (guessing Elaine's position), potentially more

left over undigested food for bad bugs.

If one has had a yeast problem for awhile, even if asymptomatic,

they can be imbedded in all kinds of places/folds in teh gut, and

elsewhere in the body.

I do now know whether it is when yeast are leaving (dying, tyring to

fight for their lives?) that the problem/itching is most severe, or

when they are growing. I have some similar symptoms, and would love

to know - MARJAN - IF YOU DO HAVE A WAY TO CONTACT DR. SHAW< IT

WOULD BE GREAT.

I think its also quite possible that as bacteria are reduced via

SCD, yeast have less natural enemies, and could multiply somewhat

for a time, as long as they have food.

As for GSE: Some yeast are resistant. Also, don't know if oral

ingestion will work on yeast outside the digestive tract. Soaking

in it (in tub, or on washcloth) is supposed to help - that is,

direct contact with teh infected area.

One key thing that has also been mentioned, but I'll say again, very

plainly (heck, we're all friends here right?) It is quite possible

that your husband is contributing to your problem. Does he have

longterm jock itch? rough, tough or leathery feeling skin

in " sensitve personal areas " ? Common recurring athlete's foot? All

can be signs of yeast infection.

If he's not SCD, and/ or he has yeast overgrowth, he could easily

pass some to you (we've been down this road).

I also learned that a pap smear can show yeast (neat huh? fairly

routine easy to get test!) I don't know how sensitive it is, or how

reliable. I also learned that I have had (probably still do have)

yeast overgrowth, without symptoms (showed on pap).

Not that any of this really helps your situation. You may want to

boost your probiotics, and then your immune system after you take

whatever antifungals - zinc can help boost your immune system, along

with vitamin C. Transfer factors are another (pricey) possibility.

You might try selenium, or biotin also. Selenium can help keep the

neutrophils in sufficient supply (those are the " things " in your

blood that help kill yeast). You can get an idea if your

neutrophils are low in a routine blood test.

I have been working on this problem with my daughter for 3 years.

She is n/t, but definitely has yeast and bacteria. SCD is not

taking care of it for her. I've not had the same testing for her as

for Adam, so I can't compare (maybe his was even worse, and so his

good neuro/behavioral results are just getting the WORST of it

gone. She doesn't have neuro issues to deal with, but does have red

genital area, a rash on legs, soft fuzzy stools). We can get those

better, but can't seem to " keep " them better. Don't know why yet

(sorry, I know this isn't what you want to hear, just wanted you to

know you are not alone).

-- Sue, mom to Adam and

>

[Guest guest]

A few thoughts:

You (everyone) always has some yeast in their bodies. So the idea of

truly getting rid of it is a misnomer- something we say, but will

never truly be (and we don't want it to be, because yeast is part of

the natural balance of the gut, and probably teh female genital

tract - not sure on that one). It is only a problem when there

is " overgrowth " - more than there should be (whatever that number

is).

There is a ton of info on the net about yeast, search on Candida.

Many books/practitioners caution against the use of cheese (moldy=

fungus, yeast is a fungus), peanuts (again, mold) chocolate, apple,

banana, sugars, vinegar (and all fermented foods), mushrooms

(fungus) and I don't remember what all else as well as breads while

trying to get rid of yeast. Elaine tends to have a different view,

but IMO, Elaine and her method are a SLOW, LONG TERM method (I think

should would agree to some extent). I don't remember a cashew

caution, but ADam couldn't eat them at one time, so I was not

looking for it. I do know they are supposed to have more carbs than

other nuts, hence (guessing Elaine's position), potentially more

left over undigested food for bad bugs.

If one has had a yeast problem for awhile, even if asymptomatic,

they can be imbedded in all kinds of places/folds in teh gut, and

elsewhere in the body.

I do now know whether it is when yeast are leaving (dying, tyring to

fight for their lives?) that the problem/itching is most severe, or

when they are growing. I have some similar symptoms, and would love

to know - MARJAN - IF YOU DO HAVE A WAY TO CONTACT DR. SHAW< IT

WOULD BE GREAT.

I think its also quite possible that as bacteria are reduced via

SCD, yeast have less natural enemies, and could multiply somewhat

for a time, as long as they have food.

As for GSE: Some yeast are resistant. Also, don't know if oral

ingestion will work on yeast outside the digestive tract. Soaking

in it (in tub, or on washcloth) is supposed to help - that is,

direct contact with teh infected area.

One key thing that has also been mentioned, but I'll say again, very

plainly (heck, we're all friends here right?) It is quite possible

that your husband is contributing to your problem. Does he have

longterm jock itch? rough, tough or leathery feeling skin

in " sensitve personal areas " ? Common recurring athlete's foot? All

can be signs of yeast infection.

If he's not SCD, and/ or he has yeast overgrowth, he could easily

pass some to you (we've been down this road).

I also learned that a pap smear can show yeast (neat huh? fairly

routine easy to get test!) I don't know how sensitive it is, or how

reliable. I also learned that I have had (probably still do have)

yeast overgrowth, without symptoms (showed on pap).

Not that any of this really helps your situation. You may want to

boost your probiotics, and then your immune system after you take

whatever antifungals - zinc can help boost your immune system, along

with vitamin C. Transfer factors are another (pricey) possibility.

You might try selenium, or biotin also. Selenium can help keep the

neutrophils in sufficient supply (those are the " things " in your

blood that help kill yeast). You can get an idea if your

neutrophils are low in a routine blood test.

I have been working on this problem with my daughter for 3 years.

She is n/t, but definitely has yeast and bacteria. SCD is not

taking care of it for her. I've not had the same testing for her as

for Adam, so I can't compare (maybe his was even worse, and so his

good neuro/behavioral results are just getting the WORST of it

gone. She doesn't have neuro issues to deal with, but does have red

genital area, a rash on legs, soft fuzzy stools). We can get those

better, but can't seem to " keep " them better. Don't know why yet

(sorry, I know this isn't what you want to hear, just wanted you to

know you are not alone).

-- Sue, mom to Adam and

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Liberty & ,

I've used the yogurt remedy before for yeast infections and it is

pretty effective. (DH thought I was nuts) I also ate a fair amount

at the same time and drank plenty of water.

I have also used yogurt on various skin irritations with great

results. I have also used it as a wonderful facial mask. That was

our twenty four hour yogurt. See it's good inside and out.

Sheila UC, 20 years -- in remission after 39 mos SCD

mom of SCD 24 mos

> You'd be surprised about the in-store yogurt. I had a yeast

infection

> when I was pregnant and my doctor gave me a prescription for

something

> for it. When I read the insert that came with the prescription

and it

> said that the effects on an unborn fetus were not known, I decided

> against using it. I went to the health food store and they told

me to

> just insert the plain yogurt instead every night before bed. I

did and

> it was gone within a week. I went back to my doctor and never

told her

> that I didn't use the medication she had prescribed and she was

quick to

> tell me that everything looked fine. So don't be too quick to

dismiss

> the yogurt idea.

>

>

>

> Liberty

>

> >

>

> ,

> I laughed at this one but it's true. Iif you feel like laying

down for

> awhile, my friends doctor has her glob yogurt all around the area

and

> lay there for about 20 minutes. I personally don't think the in

store

> stuff will do much for her. She does this a few times a month,

when

> ever it's really itchy.

>

> v

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

For what it's worth v. yeast infections tend to make me very

irritable. Like: Mommy is breathing fire today watch out!

Sheila UC, 20 years -- in remission after 39 mos SCD

mom of SCD 24 mos

> This does help, thank you. I'm calming down now. I just hate

when a new issue pops up, and I have to re-evaluate things yet

again, I go through a " moment " with myself over it all and then I

just bear down and go with the flow. This is very, very helpful,

[Guest guest]

I'm scd compliant for 2 weeks now but have battled yeast for over 15

years. You need to avoid simple sugars to battle the yeast. If you

can just drop the juices and fruit out of your diet for a few days

it will definately help.

Is there anyone else out there lurking who is a yeast patient trying

SCD? As a yeast patient and one with lots of food allergies on this

diet it is difficult for me to find things to eat.

[Guest guest]

Now that IS interesting because I was in one foul mood yesterday, didn't help

I'd had no sleep and had an awful headache from not getting my coffee... it was

just NOT my day... but I'm always happy to learn there is some reason for my

grouchiness! ;.)

in NC

Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate;

, age 3; and , 23 mos

All SCD since 1/26/04

] Re: YEAST!!! ggrrrr...

Hi ,

For what it's worth v. yeast infections tend to make me very

irritable. Like: Mommy is breathing fire today watch out!

Sheila UC, 20 years -- in remission after 39 mos SCD

mom of SCD 24 mos

[Guest guest]

Now that IS interesting because I was in one foul mood yesterday, didn't help

I'd had no sleep and had an awful headache from not getting my coffee... it was

just NOT my day... but I'm always happy to learn there is some reason for my

grouchiness! ;.)

in NC

Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate;

, age 3; and , 23 mos

All SCD since 1/26/04

] Re: YEAST!!! ggrrrr...

Hi ,

For what it's worth v. yeast infections tend to make me very

irritable. Like: Mommy is breathing fire today watch out!

Sheila UC, 20 years -- in remission after 39 mos SCD

mom of SCD 24 mos

[Guest guest]

Now that IS interesting because I was in one foul mood yesterday, didn't help

I'd had no sleep and had an awful headache from not getting my coffee... it was

just NOT my day... but I'm always happy to learn there is some reason for my

grouchiness! ;.)

in NC

Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate;

, age 3; and , 23 mos

All SCD since 1/26/04

] Re: YEAST!!! ggrrrr...

Hi ,

For what it's worth v. yeast infections tend to make me very

irritable. Like: Mommy is breathing fire today watch out!

Sheila UC, 20 years -- in remission after 39 mos SCD

mom of SCD 24 mos

[Guest guest]

, I am sorry to hear you are having a hard time. I am now doing a

modified SCD for Abby due to a lot of issues that I won't go into but I'll

have to say that I have found that the cashew flour I got from nuts4u, that

I made into pancakes does not digest well for her. You can see it all in

her stools. I have cut that out as well as using cashew butter everyday. I

know it's frustrating for you............go with your gut instincts on what

to do because everybody is different.

Kathy in NC

YEAST!!! ggrrrr...

> Ugh, this makes no sense to me and is extremely frustrating, so beware!!

May have to rant a bit here! ;.)

>

> Why on earth, when before SCD all I ate was breads, rice, starches, etc,

WHY would I all of a sudden NOW be battling yeast so badly?? I went to the

gyno today, convinced I had some awful bacterial infection, it was so bad it

literally kept me up all night, and not responding to yeast treatments, but

NOPE -just one wicked yeast infection. UGH!! She gave me a really strong

gel prescription, I was leery of anything oral?

>

> So what is the deal? Why yeast NOW when I'm eating so well on SCD??? The

only things I can think of are this -

> I'm reading on a couple of " yeast " websites that " cashews have a lot of

yeast " . What the heck is up with that???? They are a nut! I'm just

confused, I thought yeast was in BREAD. Is this the reason folks have been

saying go easy on cashews? I never got a solid answer on that (I'm not

talking about the whole roasted/not roasted nut butter discussion, I'm just

talking about cashews in general). Even Elaine, with ALL due respect, could

not give me a firm reason to " go easy on " them - she just said that they

" tasted starchy to her " and she recommended pecans. NOW, pecans are fine,

but in a lot of things, they do not have the taste/color/texture to " do it "

for Luke. And as far as he is concerned, how would I know if he's having

yeast issues? It's pretty obvious with ME, ick. But he seems good, I'm

thinking maybe yeast is not bad for him? What I'd like to do is switch me

over to almond, and continue to use cashew and pecan with him (almonds are

too high in sal's).

>

> The other thing - cheese?? Apparently cheese is an issue with yeast?

Cheese is one thing I can grab to snack on. Almost every single day I have

a few chunks of mild cheddar or havarti cheese with some kind of fruit,

grapes or an orange or a very ripe pear (all of which I'm able to tolerate

raw & peeled). So I need to back off on cheese? Choices sure are slimming

down here...

>

> Finally - GSE. I've been doing it for a few days and yet still have this

monster yeast infection. Should I continue it? Does it take time? Or is

it bogus and not doing anything for me?

>

> I LOVE SCD and how it's helping our tummies and Luke's ASD issues, but the

peripheral stuff is what gets on my nerves. HOWEVER... in all my ranting,

all I really want is answers so we can continue to move in the right

direction, so thanks for your patience.

>

> Praying for grace/patience/strength for us ALL!

> in NC

> Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate;

> , age 3; and , 23 mos

> All SCD since 1/26/04

>

> No Mom is an island. but sometimes she needs one!

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[Guest guest]

,

I re-wrote your post and explained your concerns to Bill Shaw from

Great Plains laboratory. He might just answer, who knows.

Marjan

Netherlands

[Guest guest]

Wow, thanks Marjan. That would be great.

Re: YEAST!!! ggrrrr...

,

I re-wrote your post and explained your concerns to Bill Shaw from

Great Plains laboratory. He might just answer, who knows.

Marjan

Netherlands

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

Wow, thanks Marjan. That would be great.

Re: YEAST!!! ggrrrr...

,

I re-wrote your post and explained your concerns to Bill Shaw from

Great Plains laboratory. He might just answer, who knows.

Marjan

Netherlands

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com