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I don't get sore calves or the numbness you are referring to, but I do on

occasion get muscle cramps that can be fairly severe. The pain does not last

for

hours though, fortunately just for a few minutes.

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I don't get sore calves or the numbness you are referring to, but I do on

occasion get muscle cramps that can be fairly severe. The pain does not last

for

hours though, fortunately just for a few minutes.

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--Mark Rowe

Yes, I understand what you are going through. There are times that my

legs are arms are numb or hurting that I have to get help to get up.

Sometimes these will go less painfull so I can walk others require a

pain killer to be able to walk. I also get these things that I call

Feet Sieges its when my feet muscles and nerves tighten up allmost

like a charle horse but worse. Then all I can do is curl up and hold

very very very still and let it pass. I am going to see my foot

doctor tuesday. So I know when your coming from.

Martha

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Mark,

I've had this problem quite a few times since starting on

prednisone. My knees and calves cramp so badly I can't stand up for

hours and normally have to take an Ultram to stop the pain. I've

figured out its much worse if I get dehydrated during the day. Make

sure you are drinking enough and especially drinking enough right before

bed...but of course stay in whatever liquid restrictions you may be

under. I'm not on any fluid restrictions so I tend to drink one or two

large glasses of water right before bed. Yes I have to get up to pee

half way thru the night but I don't have leg cramps in the morning

anymore.

Good luck with it, I know how badly they hurt and how that pain lasts

for a day or longer.

Amy

Sore calfs....

Just wondering if anyone else suffers from sore calfs first thing in the

morning? I am often woke up by numbness in my legs, arms and face. It

gets better after I start moving around and get something to eat and

drink though its painful to climb and descend stairs for a few hours .

Usually my calfs feel sore for a couple of days, its that feeling when

you have had a bad cramp in your calfs and they feel pretty sore for a

good while later. Anyone experience these sore legs?

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Mark,

I remember getting those a lot when I first found out I had Iga.

Infact, I had had them for years and didn't have a clue where they

were coming from...now I know that they were probably related to the

disease. Thankfully, I don't have them anymore after my

transplant.

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> Just wondering if anyone else suffers from sore calfs first thing

in the morning? I am often woke up by numbness in my legs, arms and

face. It gets better after I start moving around and get something

to eat and drink though its painful to climb and descend stairs for

a few hours . Usually my calfs feel sore for a couple of days, its

that feeling when you have had a bad cramp in your calfs and they

feel pretty sore for a good while later. Anyone experience these

sore legs?

>

>

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Hi Amy

Im not on prednisone just lisinopril amlodopine and atorvastatin. You could be

right about fluids before sleep, I work shifts and when im on afternoons and

come in around 11pm I have a pint of water. On the next morning I cannot recall

being woken up by these feelings but when I am on earlies I still have that pint

of water but over 4 hours before bed rather than the two hours before bed on

afternoons and its then that I feel bad.

:) Mark

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Mark,

I've had this problem quite a few times since starting on

prednisone. My knees and calves cramp so badly I can't stand up for

hours and normally have to take an Ultram to stop the pain. I've

figured out its much worse if I get dehydrated during the day. Make

sure you are drinking enough and especially drinking enough right before

bed...but of course stay in whatever liquid restrictions you may be

under. I'm not on any fluid restrictions so I tend to drink one or two

large glasses of water right before bed. Yes I have to get up to pee

half way thru the night but I don't have leg cramps in the morning

anymore.

Good luck with it, I know how badly they hurt and how that pain lasts

for a day or longer.

Amy

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Hi

Looks like I will just have to wait for that transplant then :) I was wondering

I know that most parts of life are regained after a transplant but is it

possible to do ALL the things you used to do before? I really loved working out

at the gym and its that that I miss the most. I am on blood pressure tablets atm

but after a transplant I presume your bp would be in the normal range so the bp

tablets get binned is that correct?

Mark;)

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Mark,

I remember getting those a lot when I first found out I had Iga.

Infact, I had had them for years and didn't have a clue where they

were coming from...now I know that they were probably related to the

disease. Thankfully, I don't have them anymore after my

transplant.

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Hi

The numbness is worrying esp in my cheeks and forehead, it always is worse on

whatever cheek im sleeping on, thinking about it I think its bp related and

possibly during the night my blood settles or collects around the lowest parts

of the body in my extremities (no not that extremity :)..). Thats my theory

anyway :)

Mark

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I don't get sore calves or the numbness you are referring to, but I do on

occasion get muscle cramps that can be fairly severe. The pain does not last for

hours though, fortunately just for a few minutes.

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I don't think the numbness you describe has anything to do with IgAN itself.

Maybe with the blood pressure pills though. Sometimes these affect how blood

flows to extremities.

Pierre

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The numbness is worrying esp in my cheeks and forehead, it always is worse

on whatever cheek im sleeping on, thinking about it I think its bp related

and possibly during the night my blood settles or collects around the lowest

parts of the body in my extremities (no not that extremity :)..). Thats my

theory anyway :)

Mark

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Mark,

It depends on what ALL you want to do again:) They don't want any

contact sports, but you should be able to return to exercise.

Infact, they encourage exercise...but no heavy lifting for awhile

afer the transplant. I have returned to jogging most mornings--when

it's not too freezing to do so! My life is completely back to

normal, almost even better than before :)

As far as the bp pills, I am not on any as of yet. Of course, they

want to be careful since I do still have Iga, so I monitor my blood

pressure every day, and if there was a slight raise in it then they

would start to flip out, I'm sure. Right now it remains stable, but

I've only have my transplant for almost 6 weeks now. Hope the

calves feel better soon!

> Mark,

> I remember getting those a lot when I first found out I had Iga.

> Infact, I had had them for years and didn't have a clue where they

> were coming from...now I know that they were probably related to

the

> disease. Thankfully, I don't have them anymore after my

> transplant.

>

>

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>

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Mark,

It depends on what ALL you want to do again:) They don't want any

contact sports, but you should be able to return to exercise.

Infact, they encourage exercise...but no heavy lifting for awhile

afer the transplant. I have returned to jogging most mornings--when

it's not too freezing to do so! My life is completely back to

normal, almost even better than before :)

As far as the bp pills, I am not on any as of yet. Of course, they

want to be careful since I do still have Iga, so I monitor my blood

pressure every day, and if there was a slight raise in it then they

would start to flip out, I'm sure. Right now it remains stable, but

I've only have my transplant for almost 6 weeks now. Hope the

calves feel better soon!

> Mark,

> I remember getting those a lot when I first found out I had Iga.

> Infact, I had had them for years and didn't have a clue where they

> were coming from...now I know that they were probably related to

the

> disease. Thankfully, I don't have them anymore after my

> transplant.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Mark,

Regarding the BP meds post-transplant, here is my story. Before

dialysis, I was on 10mg of Monopril and 25mg of Tenormin. During

dialysis, I self-medicated (with the permission of my neph) due the

the changes in BP during hemo. After receiveing my transplant close

to 2 years ago, I have had to increase my Tenormin to 50mg, while my

Monopril has remained unchanged. So, in my case, the BP meds didn't

get binned. Also, I have more edema in my lower legs at the end of

the day than ever before.

Marty

>

> > Mark,

> > I remember getting those a lot when I first found out I had Iga.

> > Infact, I had had them for years and didn't have a clue where

they

> > were coming from...now I know that they were probably related to

> the

> > disease. Thankfully, I don't have them anymore after my

> > transplant.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I can only imagine how frustrating it must be to learn your Mom has to go

through additional tests after waiting for so long already! It is good that

they

are so careful screening the donors, but the wait I am sure is hard.

That is also quite a bit of weight to lose in 18 months. Have you seen a

dietitian to help you? I saw a renal dietitian and she really helped me to

prepare for a diet low in potassium and protein, but with enough calories to

stabilize my weight when I was losing weight. You might ask your doctor for a

referral.

I am glad you are finding hope and encouragement here while you wait though.

Take care,

In a message dated 1/28/2004 3:56:53 AM Pacific Standard Time,

mrowe1962@... writes:

> Thank you for all your replies, the worst thing about this disease is not

> the pain or even the constant hospital/gp visits its becoming the opposite of

> what I was just 18 months ago, I have lost 35pounds of weight I am now just a

> shadow of what I used to be, still reading your replies has given me hope

> that I may regain some of what I have lost :)

>

> My mother came forward a year ago as a possible doner and yesterday after

> going through 6 months of tests she had her appointment with a nephrologist to

> give her the yes/no. She was so worked up and it came as a huge

> dissapointment that they have realised that they need further tests because

she had a

> minor stroke a few years ago, so thats a least another 2 months waiting for

the

> appointment to come through then another month or two befoer they tell her the

> results :( Better to be safe than sorry I know but the time that is now

> being wasted when she could have had those tests when she was having her other

> tests........

>

> Anyway thanks for all your replies they are greatly encouraging and thats

> the best medicinr of all......... hope :)

>

>

>

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Hi Marty,

that is concerning that you have more edema than ever before. What does your

Neph say about that? Does it have anything to do with your difficult work

hours? By the way, have things slowed down at all there? I hope your work

schedule is more manageable and that you have fully recovered from your

accident.

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Thank you for all your replies, the worst thing about this disease is not the

pain or even the constant hospital/gp visits its becoming the opposite of what I

was just 18 months ago, I have lost 35pounds of weight I am now just a shadow of

what I used to be, still reading your replies has given me hope that I may

regain some of what I have lost :)

My mother came forward a year ago as a possible doner and yesterday after going

through 6 months of tests she had her appointment with a nephrologist to give

her the yes/no. She was so worked up and it came as a huge dissapointment that

they have realised that they need further tests because she had a minor stroke a

few years ago, so thats a least another 2 months waiting for the appointment to

come through then another month or two befoer they tell her the results :(

Better to be safe than sorry I know but the time that is now being wasted when

she could have had those tests when she was having her other tests........

Anyway thanks for all your replies they are greatly encouraging and thats the

best medicinr of all......... hope :)

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Marty,

My transplant nephrologist still has me on a low sodium diet. I can tell when I

have to much sodium because I have weitght gain the next day over and above what

I gain in consumed calories. I can also tell by the amount of edema in my legs

and face.

Re: Sore calfs....

Hi Mark,

Regarding the BP meds post-transplant, here is my story. Before

dialysis, I was on 10mg of Monopril and 25mg of Tenormin. During

dialysis, I self-medicated (with the permission of my neph) due the

the changes in BP during hemo. After receiveing my transplant close

to 2 years ago, I have had to increase my Tenormin to 50mg, while my

Monopril has remained unchanged. So, in my case, the BP meds didn't

get binned. Also, I have more edema in my lower legs at the end of

the day than ever before.

Marty

>

> > Mark,

> > I remember getting those a lot when I first found out I had Iga.

> > Infact, I had had them for years and didn't have a clue where

they

> > were coming from...now I know that they were probably related to

> the

> > disease. Thankfully, I don't have them anymore after my

> > transplant.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

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> save £80

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> >

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My brother was rejected as a kidney donor after more than 7 months (various

tests, plus waiting for appointments with neph/psychologist/social

worker/surgeon and waiting for files to be sent, etc.). He was rejected

after the very last test. Unfortunately, it happens. There are some things

that can't be known until other things are done first. In his case, they

couldn't have found what they did until that very last test. Yes, I could

say he should have had that test earlier, but it just doesn't always work

that way. After that experience, my advice to anyone in the process of

having a donor worked up would be to expect the unexpected and don't count

your chickens before they are hatched. There are so many ways any potential

donor can be rejected. It's disappointing, but what can you do. It's a

pretty serious operation and lifechoice as far as the donor goes. The

doctors can't take any risks, and they usually don't. I've learned the hard

way not to get too enthusiastic about these things.

Anyway Mark, I sympathise with you. A lot of people have the same

experience.

Pierre

Re: Sore calfs....

Mark - it is so difficult to deal with who we once were and what we are now.

You are right - that is the most difficult thing to deal with. I feel like

I've lost myself and I'm greiving the old me! How frustrating for you and

your MOM....I'm sure she is beside herself, to have all this time pass and

then be told - more tests! How incredibly disappointing. I hope the next

phase of testing goes by quickly for you and your Mom and that everything

works out in your favor. Rita Nucciarone

Mark Rowe wrote:

Thank you for all your replies, the worst thing about this disease is not

the pain or even the constant hospital/gp visits its becoming the opposite

of what I was just 18 months ago, I have lost 35pounds of weight I am now

just a shadow of what I used to be, still reading your replies has given me

hope that I may regain some of what I have lost :)

My mother came forward a year ago as a possible doner and yesterday after

going through 6 months of tests she had her appointment with a nephrologist

to give her the yes/no. She was so worked up and it came as a huge

dissapointment that they have realised that they need further tests because

she had a minor stroke a few years ago, so thats a least another 2 months

waiting for the appointment to come through then another month or two befoer

they tell her the results :( Better to be safe than sorry I know but the

time that is now being wasted when she could have had those tests when she

was having her other tests........

Anyway thanks for all your replies they are greatly encouraging and thats

the best medicinr of all......... hope :)

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Hi ,

I do believe that sodium intake could be a big factor in my case.

Plus, I am supposed to drink at least 3 liters of water a day. The

transplant has to try and take the place of 2 healthy kidneys.

Marty

> > > Mark,

> > > I remember getting those a lot when I first found out I had

Iga.

> > > Infact, I had had them for years and didn't have a clue

where

> they

> > > were coming from...now I know that they were probably

related to

> > the

> > > disease. Thankfully, I don't have them anymore after my

> > > transplant.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Hi ,

I do believe that sodium intake could be a big factor in my case.

Plus, I am supposed to drink at least 3 liters of water a day. The

transplant has to try and take the place of 2 healthy kidneys.

Marty

> > > Mark,

> > > I remember getting those a lot when I first found out I had

Iga.

> > > Infact, I had had them for years and didn't have a clue

where

> they

> > > were coming from...now I know that they were probably

related to

> > the

> > > disease. Thankfully, I don't have them anymore after my

> > > transplant.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Hi ,

I do believe that sodium intake could be a big factor in my case.

Plus, I am supposed to drink at least 3 liters of water a day. The

transplant has to try and take the place of 2 healthy kidneys.

Marty

> > > Mark,

> > > I remember getting those a lot when I first found out I had

Iga.

> > > Infact, I had had them for years and didn't have a clue

where

> they

> > > were coming from...now I know that they were probably

related to

> > the

> > > disease. Thankfully, I don't have them anymore after my

> > > transplant.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

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> > save £80

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> > >

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