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" The usual sorts of incentives (stickers, toys, treats) don't

> seem to work with our son in this area. "

BUT there must be something that your son likes. My son loved

twinkling lights: we hung christmas lights in the toilet and we even

lit candles there...He loves tractors, so we rolled out the BIGGEST

poster for him AT ONCE when we saw a droplet of urine.

" but I don't know that he's made the connection, in his mind, as

regards what it is for. "

Give plenty (I mean plenty) to drink and give salty things so that

he stays a bit thirsty. That way you make sure the chances are high

that he needs to go. Spend lots of time on the toilet. Will you be

able to see if he did urinate? I used the small seat also and I

never could see if he did go. We decided to have him stand up.

Also round that time, we more or less 'used' my husband and his

little brother as role models. That way your son may also be able to

see what the purpose is.

As soon as you so much see anything that looks like urinating, the

circus has to come to town within a split second. Be sure not to say

too much if you think he won't understand. If you want him to

understand, you need to bring out the biggest reinforcer possible to

show/teach him what you'd like to see. Your hug or your kiss or your

words of praise may not be the biggest reinforcers for your son. For

my son they meant nothing at that time.

Marjan

mom to Nick, 7, asd, scd since jan 18 2003

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" The usual sorts of incentives (stickers, toys, treats) don't

> seem to work with our son in this area. "

BUT there must be something that your son likes. My son loved

twinkling lights: we hung christmas lights in the toilet and we even

lit candles there...He loves tractors, so we rolled out the BIGGEST

poster for him AT ONCE when we saw a droplet of urine.

" but I don't know that he's made the connection, in his mind, as

regards what it is for. "

Give plenty (I mean plenty) to drink and give salty things so that

he stays a bit thirsty. That way you make sure the chances are high

that he needs to go. Spend lots of time on the toilet. Will you be

able to see if he did urinate? I used the small seat also and I

never could see if he did go. We decided to have him stand up.

Also round that time, we more or less 'used' my husband and his

little brother as role models. That way your son may also be able to

see what the purpose is.

As soon as you so much see anything that looks like urinating, the

circus has to come to town within a split second. Be sure not to say

too much if you think he won't understand. If you want him to

understand, you need to bring out the biggest reinforcer possible to

show/teach him what you'd like to see. Your hug or your kiss or your

words of praise may not be the biggest reinforcers for your son. For

my son they meant nothing at that time.

Marjan

mom to Nick, 7, asd, scd since jan 18 2003

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We decided to have him stand up.

> Also round that time, we more or less 'used' my husband and his

> little brother as role models. That way your son may also be able to

> see what the purpose is.

Have you tried the old ice cube in the toilet trick? Hit the ice

cube, win a prize?

With my boy, he couldn't get into the bath tub until he peed at least

a drop into the toilet (of course we timed it so there was actually

pee in him!). Once he figured out he COULD do it, it came easier at

other times of the day. All I am saying is don't rely on stickers,

tokens, etc. Use what your son really wants.

(I like the circus coming to town comment! We've had the circus in

our house a few times over the years!)

Helen, mom to (9, ASD, SCD 3 weeks)

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