Re: High Functioning Autism and Asperger's; symptoms and dia...

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Sheila,

My daughter was just diagnosed via tests and history with Autistic Spectrum

Disorder. She is in a gifted program and fits in fine, but she has had all

sorts of problems that everyone said was not Autism (psychiatrists,

psychologists, pediatricians, therapists of all kinds, neurologists, dyslexia

experts, etc). The fact is that she is high in lead and a couple of other

things (hair test indicates several) and now the Organic Acids Urine Test and

Blood Sulfate tests give markers for Autism. I feel that I have proof now

that she is suffering from mercury toxicity.

It is a SPECTRUM after all. That means that some kids will have minor

symptoms and some will not talk or socially interact. However, they may all

have mercury toxicity.

If you watch my daughter you would see an adorable little girl who is

exceedingly smart and perhaps slightly quirky from time to time (some

stimming, toe-walking, hypoglycemic).

However, we have worked so hard to get her to this point. She has been

through therapy for sensory integration, auditory sensitivity, eye tracking,

fine motor deficit (ART therapy--she now is above grade level), etc. She is

off all milk products, mostly gluten free, and off all the various things

that she was found to be allergic to--soy, peanuts, etc.

The fact is that she will never be healthy until we get the mercury out. If

we let this persist, what is the mercury going to do to her 10 to 20 years

from now. Hey, just adolescence will be horrible if we don't get it out.

She is 8 years old and in the 3rd grade. We have no time to waste.

I fully support you getting the RIGHT tests and confirming mercury. A hair

test that is all over the place may clinch it for you with all the behaviors

you have seen. As one mom to the other--Follow your instincts. If you feel

that you need to pursue it, then find that next doctor who will help your

children.

Good luck,

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Thank you. It helps to hear this. I just can hardly figure how my

children can have all these signs and symptoms of autism and not be

somewhere on the spectrum. As you point out, it is a spectrum, after

all... Kids find a lot of ways to cope and make up for the problems

they have, especially when they are not severely affected.

What's funny is that the DAN doc we saw who said my kids didn't have

autism because they could make eye contact and talk (nevermind that

this degree of normality has been achieved through much intervention,

enzymes, diet, etc) started talking about testing when I pointed out

that Asperger's and HFA were diagnoses in which kids did look pretty

much like other kids, on the surface.

We're getting going on some testing. We have already had hair tests

and they do show various metals (which is another part of why I am so

convinced I know what is going on here), and I think they have mercury

tox to some degree despite not quite meeting the counting rules (both

my kids and I come close on them but miss by one or two).

Anyway...thanks again for your response. Glad to hear that you're

getting the merc out. I am eager to work on detoxing metals.

Sheila

> Sheila,

>

> My daughter was just diagnosed via tests and history with Autistic

Spectrum

> Disorder. She is in a gifted program and fits in fine, but she has

had all

> sorts of problems that everyone said was not Autism (psychiatrists,

> psychologists, pediatricians, therapists of all kinds, neurologists,

dyslexia

> experts, etc). The fact is that she is high in lead and a couple of

other

> things (hair test indicates several) and now the Organic Acids Urine

Test and

> Blood Sulfate tests give markers for Autism. I feel that I have

proof now

> that she is suffering from mercury toxicity.

>

> It is a SPECTRUM after all. That means that some kids will have

minor

> symptoms and some will not talk or socially interact. However, they

may all

> have mercury toxicity.

>

> If you watch my daughter you would see an adorable little girl who

is

> exceedingly smart and perhaps slightly quirky from time to time

(some

> stimming, toe-walking, hypoglycemic).

> However, we have worked so hard to get her to this point. She has

been

> through therapy for sensory integration, auditory sensitivity, eye

tracking,

> fine motor deficit (ART therapy--she now is above grade level), etc.

She is

> off all milk products, mostly gluten free, and off all the various

things

> that she was found to be allergic to--soy, peanuts, etc.

>

> The fact is that she will never be healthy until we get the mercury

out. If

> we let this persist, what is the mercury going to do to her 10 to 20

years

> from now. Hey, just adolescence will be horrible if we don't get it

out.

> She is 8 years old and in the 3rd grade. We have no time to waste.

>

> I fully support you getting the RIGHT tests and confirming mercury.

A hair

> test that is all over the place may clinch it for you with all the

behaviors

> you have seen. As one mom to the other--Follow your instincts. If

you feel

> that you need to pursue it, then find that next doctor who will help

your

> children.

>

> Good luck,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> We have already had hair tests

> and they do show various metals (which is another part of why I am

so

> convinced I know what is going on here), and I think they have

mercury

> tox to some degree despite not quite meeting the counting rules

(both

> my kids and I come close on them but miss by one or two).

This does NOT mean you don't have it. All it means is the chance is

more than 1 in 40 that the result is due to random variation rather

than pathology. If it is " close, " maybe 1 in 20 or 30.

Andy .. . . . . . .. .

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>Thank you. It helps to hear this. I just can hardly figure how my

>children can have all these signs and symptoms of autism and not be

>somewhere on the spectrum. As you point out, it is a spectrum, after

>all... Kids find a lot of ways to cope and make up for the problems

>they have, especially when they are not severely affected.

We went through this same problem with my son. He's always been high

functioning, yet getting a dx was very difficult. I was told over and over

again that he was not on the spectrum. Why? Because he spoke well. He

answered questions. His articulation was excellent. He was somewhat

social. However, he did have fleeting eye contact. When I pointed this out

I was told it was fleeting because he was hyperactive, and too busy to look

at us. Now that he is 6-1/2 it is clear why doctors had a hard time

labeling him with ASD. He was high functioning and finally got the

diagnosis of Asperger's.

a - Peoria IL

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I agree that my son was vaccine injured and that a variety of disabilities

can be attributed to vaccine injury; add, adhd, dyslexia, ld's, autism,

etc.... However, I also feel there is a genetic component. In my family we

are all predisposed to horrible immunity problems, hubby's side and mine.

However, I do have a brother who is now 47 and he never received a single

vaccination. He has Asperger's Syndrome. He's never even had a tetanus

shot. He refuses all flu shots or any other shot, simply out of fear of

needles and doctors in general. He has great health, rarely sick. He's the

healthiest out of all of us. So, I'm not saying the so called spectrum is

not related to vaccines, quite the contrary. However, I do feel there is a

genetic factor that also creeps into the picture. In my brothers case,

something else caused his Asperger's, autism or whatever you want to call

it, and it wasn't vaccines. Perhaps had he been vaccinated, the severity of

his autism would have been far worse. Don't forget, he's not the only

person out there with autism, that's never been vaccinated.

a - Peoria IL

>a as far as Im concerned ther is no such thing as

>autism.There is different degrees of vacine damage.

>Dont forget asd wasnt around until the 1940s. This was

>after innoculations began and the more they give the

>more hyper/ add/adhd/pdd/asd. The more they give the

>more disorders and the more severe. Inever refer to my

>son as asd Isimply state the truth. He was poisoned by

>shots. AND NEVER INFRONT OF OR IN EARSHOT OF THE CHILD

>Dottie

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Hi a,

Does your brother have alot of amalgam fillings or any digestion

problems(gas,reflux,etc)?

R

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There are many ways to become heavy metal toxic or to experience

environmental insults. Doesnt have to be vaccines. Just so happens that it

is the most obvious and preventable way at this time. I believe there is

lots of coal mining in your part of the country and other industry that is

horrible for the immune system. I have family in Peoria Il, my husbands

cousins,aunts, uncles and grandparents , and they have fibromyaligia,

diabetes, bi polar --and related problems.

Re: [ ] Re: High Functioning Autism and Asperger's;

symptoms and dia...

> I agree that my son was vaccine injured and that a variety of disabilities

> can be attributed to vaccine injury; add, adhd, dyslexia, ld's, autism,

> etc.... However, I also feel there is a genetic component. In my family

we

> are all predisposed to horrible immunity problems, hubby's side and mine.

> However, I do have a brother who is now 47 and he never received a single

> vaccination. He has Asperger's Syndrome. He's never even had a tetanus

> shot. He refuses all flu shots or any other shot, simply out of fear of

> needles and doctors in general. He has great health, rarely sick. He's

the

> healthiest out of all of us. So, I'm not saying the so called spectrum is

> not related to vaccines, quite the contrary. However, I do feel there is

a

> genetic factor that also creeps into the picture. In my brothers case,

> something else caused his Asperger's, autism or whatever you want to call

> it, and it wasn't vaccines. Perhaps had he been vaccinated, the severity

of

> his autism would have been far worse. Don't forget, he's not the only

> person out there with autism, that's never been vaccinated.

>

> a - Peoria IL

>

>

>

> >a as far as Im concerned ther is no such thing as

> >autism.There is different degrees of vacine damage.

> >Dont forget asd wasnt around until the 1940s. This was

> >after innoculations began and the more they give the

> >more hyper/ add/adhd/pdd/asd. The more they give the

> >more disorders and the more severe. Inever refer to my

> >son as asd Isimply state the truth. He was poisoned by

> >shots. AND NEVER INFRONT OF OR IN EARSHOT OF THE CHILD

> >Dottie

>

>

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No. Neither he or myself have any fillings. We are the only two in the

family that have never had a cavity or any dental work performed, outside of

cleanings. He does not have gas or reflux.

>Hi a,

>Does your brother have alot of amalgam fillings or any digestion

>problems(gas,reflux,etc)?

> R

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I grew up in Rockford Illinois, and my brother is considerably older than

me. I'm the baby of the family. He has lived most of his life in Arizona.

He only lived in Rockford until 18. Although, the industry could have a

hand in this, it still makes me wonder why the rest of us in the family are

more sick than him. He literally has rarely ever been to a doctor. The

rest of us have a variety of immune ailments.

a

>There are many ways to become heavy metal toxic or to experience

>environmental insults. Doesnt have to be vaccines. Just so happens that

>it

>is the most obvious and preventable way at this time. I believe there is

>lots of coal mining in your part of the country and other industry that is

>horrible for the immune system. I have family in Peoria Il, my husbands

>cousins,aunts, uncles and grandparents , and they have fibromyaligia,

>diabetes, bi polar --and related problems.

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| There are many ways to become heavy metal toxic or to experience

| environmental insults. Doesnt have to be vaccines. Just so happens that it

| is the most obvious and preventable way at this time. I believe there is

| lots of coal mining in your part of the country and other industry that is

| horrible for the immune system. I have family in Peoria Il, my husbands

| cousins,aunts, uncles and grandparents , and they have fibromyaligia,

| diabetes, bi polar --and related problems.

Wow - speaking of Peoria, have you read Steingraber's book " Living

Downstream " ? She's from Peoria and discusses

the environmental pollution there (and probably everywhere else, unfortunately).

See http://www.steingraber.com/

Her book " Having Faith " , about the polluted mother environment (womb, breasts)

is also phenomenal.

My daughter wasn't diagnosed officially as Aspergers, but that label could fit.

Once a neuro said she was ADD, and also

said that autism was a spectrum disorder with ADD at the high end, I simply made

the assumption that, as he said, she

was 'somewhere on the spectrum' and pursued the biomedical interventions

autistic folks do (and have lab results to

indicate that what ails her is the same as what ails autistics).

I have a family member who demonstrates similar 'high functioning " , who was

never vaccinated, ate whole, unprocessed

organic foods throughout her youth, lived away from industry on a farm

(pre-WWII, pre-pesticide) but did have a mother

with dental metals and did herself have dental metals.

My opinion (not an original one, I'm sure) is that any kid who sees the LD

teacher or social worker or speech teacher or

special reading teacher at school should be pursuing these interventions.

K.