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> maybe we should discuss it over a bowl of chili 'round the campfire?

> thats how we get results....right?

>

> Steve " The Fool "

No, I personally like it when we piss and moan and offer absolutely no feasible,

intelligent, rational solutions. It's so much more fun when we merely criticize

others ideas, downplay and degrade any options they put forth, because we don't

have the fortitude to make things happen.

Yeah, that's how we pave the road to progress.

Mike " I appreciate your honesty "

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> maybe we should discuss it over a bowl of chili 'round the campfire?

> thats how we get results....right?

>

> Steve " The Fool "

No, I personally like it when we piss and moan and offer absolutely no feasible,

intelligent, rational solutions. It's so much more fun when we merely criticize

others ideas, downplay and degrade any options they put forth, because we don't

have the fortitude to make things happen.

Yeah, that's how we pave the road to progress.

Mike " I appreciate your honesty "

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Steve (the new Cougar) Young said:

> maybe we should discuss it over a bowl of

> chili 'round the campfire? thats how we

> get results....right?

I suppose this means you won't be attending emstock, eh?

" Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open

it and remove all doubt "

....attributed variously to Mark Twain, Abraham Lincoln,

Eliot, Groucho Marx, Albert Einstein and dot.com.guy. Probably

rooted in Proverbs 17:28 of your owner's manual.

Larry

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Steve (the new Cougar) Young said:

> maybe we should discuss it over a bowl of

> chili 'round the campfire? thats how we

> get results....right?

I suppose this means you won't be attending emstock, eh?

" Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open

it and remove all doubt "

....attributed variously to Mark Twain, Abraham Lincoln,

Eliot, Groucho Marx, Albert Einstein and dot.com.guy. Probably

rooted in Proverbs 17:28 of your owner's manual.

Larry

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In a message dated 3/18/2004 12:01:55 PM Central Standard Time,

mreed_911@... writes:

--- " S.R. Young " wrote:

> maybe we should discuss it over a bowl of chili 'round the campfire?

> thats how we get results....right?

It's how you start. You bring people together and get their ideas. Use

their point of view to expand yours, and vice versa. Find out what you

can agree on, and where you differ.

Then again, in Vidor and surrounding areas, you can just drag those you

don't like behind trucks, eh? Your emergency vehicles have tow hooks and

chains, right?

Mike :/

Maybe your tongue was in check here (as maybe the other Mr. Young's was when

he suggested discussing the matter around a bowl of chili) but still that last

comment was uncalled for. Professionalism is discussed often on this list.

Isn't part of professionalism a simple matter of 'rising above' and taking the

'higher road?' If someone (and I'm not directly or indirectly implicating

anyone here) says something with an attitude or airs an opinion that is

unpopular

or even makes personal attacks, other people often respond in kind and in doing

so bring themselves down to other's level. We see enough of this in the

'real' world. Can't we refrain from it on this list?

As for EMStock isn't that supposed to be an event where ego and credentials

and attitudes are checked at the door? Isn't everyone supposed to be on equal

footing? How about giving the people (or the services or the professions, etc.)

you don't like the benefit of the doubt? Maybe something will happen or

something will be said to change your opinion. And maybe not. But you will have

done the right thing and shown 'professionalism.'

I don't mean to imply that I'm always perfect and always the professional I

need to be. I'm not. I'm human and make mistakes. Nonetheless, I firmly believe

that this is an area where I and everyone else has room for improvement.

Take care and be safe!

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