Re: yes, grasshopper

[Guest guest]

This post to the diabetic list I have been a part of for about seven years

kind of gives you an idea of how careful I have to be if I wish to control my

sugar after eating. Even though I'm not a type one diabetic, I am actually worse

off because I don't use insulin to keep my sugar from going up or to low. Us who

are type 2 diabetics only take pills when they first find out we are diabetic.

How ever, if us type 2 diabetics don't control our sugar with diet and exercise

we will with in ten to 15 years have to use insulin as does a type one diabetic.

When any diabetic goes out to eat it is very hard to know exactly how many grams

of carbs are in your meal, but you must get close enough so you can know how

much insulin to give your self in a shot. But in my case I have no insulin and

have to stay under the total amount of carbs per meal I can eat with out raising

my blood sugar 2 hours after I have ate. My sugar did rise yesterday 2 hours

after I ate. But it wasn't as high as other meals can make it go. I know it was

the noodles that done it. I would be better off if I was on insulin, but once

you start the needle it is next to impossible to get off it. I plan to not have

to use insulin and control my sugar by pills, eating right and exercise. some

type 2 diabetics can eat more carbs per meal then others. All of our systems are

different. It seems that I can eat around 50 grams of carbs in a day and control

my sugar level very well and keep it in the safe range. The ADA says I can eat

up to 150 grams of carbs in a day and be ok. Well when they first told me back

in 02 that I'm a diabetic I went by there numbers. My sugar levels went out of

sight and I felt really bad. I heard of this list of diabetics that live the

disease daily and they told me to for get about how I learned from the ADA. They

helped me to get my sugar under control and now if I do as they say, then I can

control my 2 hour sugar levels after I have ate.

This is mainly why in order to regulate my sugar when I go out to eat I eat

mostly salads. Most raw veggies like in a salad are all low carb and even eating

a large salad doesn't raise my sugar out of control. The dressing can though, so

in most cases I eat my salad dry. I do slip up from time to time and eat food

that I know will jack my sugar out of control, but then I'm just a human and I

like every one else have weak moments. With out the needle and insulin though, I

have no way to bring my sugar level back down to safe ranges other then skip the

next meal, drink lots of water and exercise. It doesn't do any good to take

another pill.

Now if though noodles yesterday would have been whole grain noodles instead

of rice noodles, then I would have been ok. whole grain rice is brown because

the wheat still has the hull or husk still on the drain. This makes it kind of

tough to eat and most folks don't like it. But the shell still on the grain is

what keeps it from breaking down in my blood stream and raising my sugar levels.

Rice is just as bad for a diabetic as eating white flour if it isn't a whole

grain rice. I'm not even sure if there is such a thing. If I get the soup again

and I probably will, I will tell them to leave out the noodles. I can eat the

rest of it and be ok with my sugar levels.

In my case it is a 2 edge sword. I'm trying to eat less and control my sugar

level at the same time. One at a time is hard enough by it self to figure out.

But if I skip to many meals or not have a snack, then I get low sugar and this

is just as dangerous as high sugar. It is a balancing act when I eat because I'm

not on the insulin by the needle like all type one's and half of type two's.

Counting grams of carbs per meal or snack is a life line for all type one or two

diabetics if they plan to live a healthy life with out passing young.

Some time when ever you got a moment look up the amount of carbs in food

and you will see how hard it is to stay around 50 total grams of carbs for a

day. Mostly it means I have to eat mostly salad every day if I wish to stay

under or near this amount. If my sugar level is higher then 120 after I eat,

then I'm not eating right and I'm slowly destroying my health.

Just wanted to give you a look at how I have to look at food if I wish to

live on and become old like you. I do wish to live and I do plan to do better.

mainly got to stay away from processed flour and sugar. By doing this I will do

good and live a long life. Just remember that if the package says whole grain it

doesn't mean it is whole grain as it is for a diabetic. processed flour means

the hull or husk has been removes and this is a no no food for a diabetic. Only

the whole grain is what we can eat and not be effected by the sugar in it.

Now I'm a type 2 diabetic simply because for many years I didn't control my

weight. Type 2 diabetes is mainly caused from a big belly. Type one is from

birth or at a very young age and different in many ways. But no one will read up

on a disease unless they are dealing with it. I could have cared less about

diabetes when I didn't have it. Now I have it and I read up on it by listening

to those people who deal with the disease on a daily schedule. I don't listen to

so called experts who think they know and don't. I listen to only those who deal

directly with the killer if not controlled.

yes, grasshopper

It is true. The holder of knowledge is the holder of power. To dispel

ignorance is to spread power. The problem comes when one confuses simplicity

with simple-mindness. They are very different concepts. For instance very few

people understand Einstein's simple formula, E=MC², Where E stands for energy, M

stands for mass and C stands for the speed of light. Even I cannot explain it to

OTHERS. I do know That the C in this simple formula is a constant which does nod

change its value in today's world. The I:C, insulin to carb ratio is also a

constant, which must be determined by each diabetic who doses Humalog Or Novolog

to cover bolus carb consumption. Let us call this I:C ratio the K constant. If

you know your K, and if you also know how to count the number of grams of carbs

consumed and you also dose short-acting insulin like Humalog or Novolog to cover

the grams of carbs consumed,then all you need to know is this simple formula:

KC=H,

where C is the number of grams of carbs consumed and H is the number of units

of Humalog or Novolog needed to be dosed to cover what you ate or drank,

regarding their carb gram total amount consumed content. Yes, it is that simple

no matter whether you dose short-acting insulin via a syringe, a pen or a pump.

Once a person is an expert carb counter, since this is a very simple matter of

addition, but getting the exact carb gram count is difficult to do, but you can

get very close to the actual number of grams you consumed after a bit of

practice, which will make the use of the above formula very useful to you. This

is why I prefer using numbers to do research and experiments, because the real

numbers do not change that much. Don't be a crybaby and start whining, " I am not

a number. " Don't be so naive as to think you are not a number. If you are a USA

citizen you are assigned a number, if you can't believe it, just look at your

social security card. If you have a bank account, you have a bank I. D. number,

just look at your checkbook. If you have a credit card you are assigned a

number, just look at the front and back of whatever credit card you have and

there are some vital nummbers on each side of the card needed to fullfill a

purchase. If you drive a car or have a state I. D. card, you have a number on it

along with a picture of your very own person on the front of it. If you attend

college or a University, then you probably have a student or faculty I. D. card

with your picture and an assigned number on it, too. So the fact of the matter

is coming across to you. You are a number, and this is why I count you as being

number one, when it comes to learning knowledge, because I want you to have the

power, the knowledge and live in reality, not some dream world. Convert the

total number of grams of carbs you consume into a single number. Do the szame

for your K constant or I:C insulin to carb ratio. It is simple to do. For

instance just say it takes 3 units of Humalog to adequately cover 15 grams of

carbs consumed. In this case the K is derived by simply dividing the 3 by 15, or

3/15, which would equal 0.2. The K constant will vary according to one's insulin

resistance. This is why it takes numerous measurements before and after

consuming carbs and dosing insulin in order to figure out what the individual

diabetic's insulin to carb ratio actually is. Since I live in the USA I figure

getting within ±10 points of the before glr with the two hour post prandial glr

is reasonable for deriving the I:C insulin to carb ratio. For those using mole

measures a half mole or around a ±0.5 glr is fairly adequate for deriving the K

or I:C ratio. It takes many measurements or glr's to derive the actual K

constant, and these measures need to be done at different times of the day. Just

remember the old adage, large numbers means big mistakes and small numbers means

small mistakes. Of course the glr's are affected by what kind of carbs you

consume as well as how much fat or protein you consume with them. This is why

learning through experimentation is essential for you to do. In some cases

medications or drugs for things like high blood pressure or congestive heart

failure can also affect the value of the K or insulin to carb ratio.

Yes, grasshopper you are a number, and in my book you are number 1.

The Guru

[Guest guest]

This post to the diabetic list I have been a part of for about seven years

kind of gives you an idea of how careful I have to be if I wish to control my

sugar after eating. Even though I'm not a type one diabetic, I am actually worse

off because I don't use insulin to keep my sugar from going up or to low. Us who

are type 2 diabetics only take pills when they first find out we are diabetic.

How ever, if us type 2 diabetics don't control our sugar with diet and exercise

we will with in ten to 15 years have to use insulin as does a type one diabetic.

When any diabetic goes out to eat it is very hard to know exactly how many grams

of carbs are in your meal, but you must get close enough so you can know how

much insulin to give your self in a shot. But in my case I have no insulin and

have to stay under the total amount of carbs per meal I can eat with out raising

my blood sugar 2 hours after I have ate. My sugar did rise yesterday 2 hours

after I ate. But it wasn't as high as other meals can make it go. I know it was

the noodles that done it. I would be better off if I was on insulin, but once

you start the needle it is next to impossible to get off it. I plan to not have

to use insulin and control my sugar by pills, eating right and exercise. some

type 2 diabetics can eat more carbs per meal then others. All of our systems are

different. It seems that I can eat around 50 grams of carbs in a day and control

my sugar level very well and keep it in the safe range. The ADA says I can eat

up to 150 grams of carbs in a day and be ok. Well when they first told me back

in 02 that I'm a diabetic I went by there numbers. My sugar levels went out of

sight and I felt really bad. I heard of this list of diabetics that live the

disease daily and they told me to for get about how I learned from the ADA. They

helped me to get my sugar under control and now if I do as they say, then I can

control my 2 hour sugar levels after I have ate.

This is mainly why in order to regulate my sugar when I go out to eat I eat

mostly salads. Most raw veggies like in a salad are all low carb and even eating

a large salad doesn't raise my sugar out of control. The dressing can though, so

in most cases I eat my salad dry. I do slip up from time to time and eat food

that I know will jack my sugar out of control, but then I'm just a human and I

like every one else have weak moments. With out the needle and insulin though, I

have no way to bring my sugar level back down to safe ranges other then skip the

next meal, drink lots of water and exercise. It doesn't do any good to take

another pill.

Now if though noodles yesterday would have been whole grain noodles instead

of rice noodles, then I would have been ok. whole grain rice is brown because

the wheat still has the hull or husk still on the drain. This makes it kind of

tough to eat and most folks don't like it. But the shell still on the grain is

what keeps it from breaking down in my blood stream and raising my sugar levels.

Rice is just as bad for a diabetic as eating white flour if it isn't a whole

grain rice. I'm not even sure if there is such a thing. If I get the soup again

and I probably will, I will tell them to leave out the noodles. I can eat the

rest of it and be ok with my sugar levels.

In my case it is a 2 edge sword. I'm trying to eat less and control my sugar

level at the same time. One at a time is hard enough by it self to figure out.

But if I skip to many meals or not have a snack, then I get low sugar and this

is just as dangerous as high sugar. It is a balancing act when I eat because I'm

not on the insulin by the needle like all type one's and half of type two's.

Counting grams of carbs per meal or snack is a life line for all type one or two

diabetics if they plan to live a healthy life with out passing young.

Some time when ever you got a moment look up the amount of carbs in food

and you will see how hard it is to stay around 50 total grams of carbs for a

day. Mostly it means I have to eat mostly salad every day if I wish to stay

under or near this amount. If my sugar level is higher then 120 after I eat,

then I'm not eating right and I'm slowly destroying my health.

Just wanted to give you a look at how I have to look at food if I wish to

live on and become old like you. I do wish to live and I do plan to do better.

mainly got to stay away from processed flour and sugar. By doing this I will do

good and live a long life. Just remember that if the package says whole grain it

doesn't mean it is whole grain as it is for a diabetic. processed flour means

the hull or husk has been removes and this is a no no food for a diabetic. Only

the whole grain is what we can eat and not be effected by the sugar in it.

Now I'm a type 2 diabetic simply because for many years I didn't control my

weight. Type 2 diabetes is mainly caused from a big belly. Type one is from

birth or at a very young age and different in many ways. But no one will read up

on a disease unless they are dealing with it. I could have cared less about

diabetes when I didn't have it. Now I have it and I read up on it by listening

to those people who deal with the disease on a daily schedule. I don't listen to

so called experts who think they know and don't. I listen to only those who deal

directly with the killer if not controlled.

yes, grasshopper

It is true. The holder of knowledge is the holder of power. To dispel

ignorance is to spread power. The problem comes when one confuses simplicity

with simple-mindness. They are very different concepts. For instance very few

people understand Einstein's simple formula, E=MC², Where E stands for energy, M

stands for mass and C stands for the speed of light. Even I cannot explain it to

OTHERS. I do know That the C in this simple formula is a constant which does nod

change its value in today's world. The I:C, insulin to carb ratio is also a

constant, which must be determined by each diabetic who doses Humalog Or Novolog

to cover bolus carb consumption. Let us call this I:C ratio the K constant. If

you know your K, and if you also know how to count the number of grams of carbs

consumed and you also dose short-acting insulin like Humalog or Novolog to cover

the grams of carbs consumed,then all you need to know is this simple formula:

KC=H,

where C is the number of grams of carbs consumed and H is the number of units

of Humalog or Novolog needed to be dosed to cover what you ate or drank,

regarding their carb gram total amount consumed content. Yes, it is that simple

no matter whether you dose short-acting insulin via a syringe, a pen or a pump.

Once a person is an expert carb counter, since this is a very simple matter of

addition, but getting the exact carb gram count is difficult to do, but you can

get very close to the actual number of grams you consumed after a bit of

practice, which will make the use of the above formula very useful to you. This

is why I prefer using numbers to do research and experiments, because the real

numbers do not change that much. Don't be a crybaby and start whining, " I am not

a number. " Don't be so naive as to think you are not a number. If you are a USA

citizen you are assigned a number, if you can't believe it, just look at your

social security card. If you have a bank account, you have a bank I. D. number,

just look at your checkbook. If you have a credit card you are assigned a

number, just look at the front and back of whatever credit card you have and

there are some vital nummbers on each side of the card needed to fullfill a

purchase. If you drive a car or have a state I. D. card, you have a number on it

along with a picture of your very own person on the front of it. If you attend

college or a University, then you probably have a student or faculty I. D. card

with your picture and an assigned number on it, too. So the fact of the matter

is coming across to you. You are a number, and this is why I count you as being

number one, when it comes to learning knowledge, because I want you to have the

power, the knowledge and live in reality, not some dream world. Convert the

total number of grams of carbs you consume into a single number. Do the szame

for your K constant or I:C insulin to carb ratio. It is simple to do. For

instance just say it takes 3 units of Humalog to adequately cover 15 grams of

carbs consumed. In this case the K is derived by simply dividing the 3 by 15, or

3/15, which would equal 0.2. The K constant will vary according to one's insulin

resistance. This is why it takes numerous measurements before and after

consuming carbs and dosing insulin in order to figure out what the individual

diabetic's insulin to carb ratio actually is. Since I live in the USA I figure

getting within ±10 points of the before glr with the two hour post prandial glr

is reasonable for deriving the I:C insulin to carb ratio. For those using mole

measures a half mole or around a ±0.5 glr is fairly adequate for deriving the K

or I:C ratio. It takes many measurements or glr's to derive the actual K

constant, and these measures need to be done at different times of the day. Just

remember the old adage, large numbers means big mistakes and small numbers means

small mistakes. Of course the glr's are affected by what kind of carbs you

consume as well as how much fat or protein you consume with them. This is why

learning through experimentation is essential for you to do. In some cases

medications or drugs for things like high blood pressure or congestive heart

failure can also affect the value of the K or insulin to carb ratio.

Yes, grasshopper you are a number, and in my book you are number 1.

The Guru

[Guest guest]

Hi Mark,

Have you looked at calorieking.com for the carb count of fast foods and

other restaurants?

Also, you can eat all kinds of things other than salad.

Do you have a list of the carbs in most common foods? If not I would be glad

to send it to you.

Remember that meat has *very* little carbohydrates and you can chow down on

a nice roast without fear.

Also, cheese is a low calorie food. Eggs have about 1 carb per egg so you

could have a couple of eggs, some sausage patties and 1 (one) piece of toast

for breakfast and consume only about 18 carbs. Cut the toast and you are

looking at only 5 or so carbs.

Mushrooms and pork skins are also free.

Cy, The

anasazi

_____

From: blind-diabetics

[mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Mark Ruth

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 5:00 AM

To: blind-diabetics

Subject: Re: yes, grasshopper

This post to the diabetic list I have been a part of for about seven years

kind of gives you an idea of how careful I have to be if I wish to control

my sugar after eating. Even though I'm not a type one diabetic, I am

actually worse off because I don't use insulin to keep my sugar from going

up or to low. Us who are type 2 diabetics only take pills when they first

find out we are diabetic. How ever, if us type 2 diabetics don't control our

sugar with diet and exercise we will with in ten to 15 years have to use

insulin as does a type one diabetic. When any diabetic goes out to eat it is

very hard to know exactly how many grams of carbs are in your meal, but you

must get close enough so you can know how much insulin to give your self in

a shot. But in my case I have no insulin and have to stay under the total

amount of carbs per meal I can eat with out raising my blood sugar 2 hours

after I have ate. My sugar did rise yesterday 2 hours after I ate. But it

wasn't as high as other meals can make it go. I know it was the noodles that

done it. I would be better off if I was on insulin, but once you start the

needle it is next to impossible to get off it. I plan to not have to use

insulin and control my sugar by pills, eating right and exercise. some type

2 diabetics can eat more carbs per meal then others. All of our systems are

different. It seems that I can eat around 50 grams of carbs in a day and

control my sugar level very well and keep it in the safe range. The ADA says

I can eat up to 150 grams of carbs in a day and be ok. Well when they first

told me back in 02 that I'm a diabetic I went by there numbers. My sugar

levels went out of sight and I felt really bad. I heard of this list of

diabetics that live the disease daily and they told me to for get about how

I learned from the ADA. They helped me to get my sugar under control and now

if I do as they say, then I can control my 2 hour sugar levels after I have

ate.

This is mainly why in order to regulate my sugar when I go out to eat I eat

mostly salads. Most raw veggies like in a salad are all low carb and even

eating a large salad doesn't raise my sugar out of control. The dressing can

though, so in most cases I eat my salad dry. I do slip up from time to time

and eat food that I know will jack my sugar out of control, but then I'm

just a human and I like every one else have weak moments. With out the

needle and insulin though, I have no way to bring my sugar level back down

to safe ranges other then skip the next meal, drink lots of water and

exercise. It doesn't do any good to take another pill.

Now if though noodles yesterday would have been whole grain noodles instead

of rice noodles, then I would have been ok. whole grain rice is brown

because the wheat still has the hull or husk still on the drain. This makes

it kind of tough to eat and most folks don't like it. But the shell still on

the grain is what keeps it from breaking down in my blood stream and raising

my sugar levels. Rice is just as bad for a diabetic as eating white flour if

it isn't a whole grain rice. I'm not even sure if there is such a thing. If

I get the soup again and I probably will, I will tell them to leave out the

noodles. I can eat the rest of it and be ok with my sugar levels.

In my case it is a 2 edge sword. I'm trying to eat less and control my sugar

level at the same time. One at a time is hard enough by it self to figure

out. But if I skip to many meals or not have a snack, then I get low sugar

and this is just as dangerous as high sugar. It is a balancing act when I

eat because I'm not on the insulin by the needle like all type one's and

half of type two's. Counting grams of carbs per meal or snack is a life line

for all type one or two diabetics if they plan to live a healthy life with

out passing young.

Some time when ever you got a moment look up the amount of carbs in food and

you will see how hard it is to stay around 50 total grams of carbs for a

day. Mostly it means I have to eat mostly salad every day if I wish to stay

under or near this amount. If my sugar level is higher then 120 after I eat,

then I'm not eating right and I'm slowly destroying my health.

Just wanted to give you a look at how I have to look at food if I wish to

live on and become old like you. I do wish to live and I do plan to do

better. mainly got to stay away from processed flour and sugar. By doing

this I will do good and live a long life. Just remember that if the package

says whole grain it doesn't mean it is whole grain as it is for a diabetic.

processed flour means the hull or husk has been removes and this is a no no

food for a diabetic. Only the whole grain is what we can eat and not be

effected by the sugar in it.

Now I'm a type 2 diabetic simply because for many years I didn't control my

weight. Type 2 diabetes is mainly caused from a big belly. Type one is from

birth or at a very young age and different in many ways. But no one will

read up on a disease unless they are dealing with it. I could have cared

less about diabetes when I didn't have it. Now I have it and I read up on it

by listening to those people who deal with the disease on a daily schedule.

I don't listen to so called experts who think they know and don't. I listen

to only those who deal directly with the killer if not controlled.

yes, grasshopper

It is true. The holder of knowledge is the holder of power. To dispel

ignorance is to spread power. The problem comes when one confuses simplicity

with simple-mindness. They are very different concepts. For instance very

few people understand Einstein's simple formula, E=MC², Where E stands for

energy, M stands for mass and C stands for the speed of light. Even I cannot

explain it to OTHERS. I do know That the C in this simple formula is a

constant which does nod change its value in today's world. The I:C, insulin

to carb ratio is also a constant, which must be determined by each diabetic

who doses Humalog Or Novolog to cover bolus carb consumption. Let us call

this I:C ratio the K constant. If you know your K, and if you also know how

to count the number of grams of carbs consumed and you also dose

short-acting insulin like Humalog or Novolog to cover the grams of carbs

consumed,then all you need to know is this simple formula:

KC=H,

where C is the number of grams of carbs consumed and H is the number of

units of Humalog or Novolog needed to be dosed to cover what you ate or

drank, regarding their carb gram total amount consumed content. Yes, it is

that simple no matter whether you dose short-acting insulin via a syringe, a

pen or a pump. Once a person is an expert carb counter, since this is a very

simple matter of addition, but getting the exact carb gram count is

difficult to do, but you can get very close to the actual number of grams

you consumed after a bit of practice, which will make the use of the above

formula very useful to you. This is why I prefer using numbers to do

research and experiments, because the real numbers do not change that much.

Don't be a crybaby and start whining, " I am not a number. " Don't be so naive

as to think you are not a number. If you are a USA citizen you are assigned

a number, if you can't believe it, just look at your social security card.

If you have a bank account, you have a bank I. D. number, just look at your

checkbook. If you have a credit card you are assigned a number, just look at

the front and back of whatever credit card you have and there are some vital

nummbers on each side of the card needed to fullfill a purchase. If you

drive a car or have a state I. D. card, you have a number on it along with a

picture of your very own person on the front of it. If you attend college or

a University, then you probably have a student or faculty I. D. card with

your picture and an assigned number on it, too. So the fact of the matter is

coming across to you. You are a number, and this is why I count you as being

number one, when it comes to learning knowledge, because I want you to have

the power, the knowledge and live in reality, not some dream world. Convert

the total number of grams of carbs you consume into a single number. Do the

szame for your K constant or I:C insulin to carb ratio. It is simple to do.

For instance just say it takes 3 units of Humalog to adequately cover 15

grams of carbs consumed. In this case the K is derived by simply dividing

the 3 by 15, or 3/15, which would equal 0.2. The K constant will vary

according to one's insulin resistance. This is why it takes numerous

measurements before and after consuming carbs and dosing insulin in order to

figure out what the individual diabetic's insulin to carb ratio actually is.

Since I live in the USA I figure getting within ±10 points of the before glr

with the two hour post prandial glr is reasonable for deriving the I:C

insulin to carb ratio. For those using mole measures a half mole or around a

±0.5 glr is fairly adequate for deriving the K or I:C ratio. It takes many

measurements or glr's to derive the actual K constant, and these measures

need to be done at different times of the day. Just remember the old adage,

large numbers means big mistakes and small numbers means small mistakes. Of

course the glr's are affected by what kind of carbs you consume as well as

how much fat or protein you consume with them. This is why learning through

experimentation is essential for you to do. In some cases medications or

drugs for things like high blood pressure or congestive heart failure can

also affect the value of the K or insulin to carb ratio.

Yes, grasshopper you are a number, and in my book you are number 1.

The Guru

[Guest guest]

Excellent remarks Mark! You've really hit the head on a number of nails!

I know you were in a weight reduction mode for a long time, and I wonder if

you've reached a good weight? If you have, and you are struggling with the 50

grams of carbs per day (which is pretty low), perhaps you can up your meds

slightly to allow for a few more carbs.

Dave

A wise man's heart guides his mouth, and his lips promote instruction. (Proverbs

16:23)

yes, grasshopper

It is true. The holder of knowledge is the holder of power. To dispel

ignorance is to spread power. The problem comes when one confuses simplicity

with simple-mindness. They are very different concepts. For instance very few

people understand Einstein's simple formula, E=MC², Where E stands for energy, M

stands for mass and C stands for the speed of light. Even I cannot explain it to

OTHERS. I do know That the C in this simple formula is a constant which does nod

change its value in today's world. The I:C, insulin to carb ratio is also a

constant, which must be determined by each diabetic who doses Humalog Or Novolog

to cover bolus carb consumption. Let us call this I:C ratio the K constant. If

you know your K, and if you also know how to count the number of grams of carbs

consumed and you also dose short-acting insulin like Humalog or Novolog to cover

the grams of carbs consumed,then all you need to know is this simple formula:

KC=H,

where C is the number of grams of carbs consumed and H is the number of units

of Humalog or Novolog needed to be dosed to cover what you ate or drank,

regarding their carb gram total amount consumed content. Yes, it is that simple

no matter whether you dose short-acting insulin via a syringe, a pen or a pump.

Once a person is an expert carb counter, since this is a very simple matter of

addition, but getting the exact carb gram count is difficult to do, but you can

get very close to the actual number of grams you consumed after a bit of

practice, which will make the use of the above formula very useful to you. This

is why I prefer using numbers to do research and experiments, because the real

numbers do not change that much. Don't be a crybaby and start whining, " I am not

a number. " Don't be so naive as to think you are not a number. If you are a USA

citizen you are assigned a number, if you can't believe it, just look at your

social security card. If you have a bank account, you have a bank I. D. number,

just look at your checkbook. If you have a credit card you are assigned a

number, just look at the front and back of whatever credit card you have and

there are some vital nummbers on each side of the card needed to fullfill a

purchase. If you drive a car or have a state I. D. card, you have a number on it

along with a picture of your very own person on the front of it. If you attend

college or a University, then you probably have a student or faculty I. D. card

with your picture and an assigned number on it, too. So the fact of the matter

is coming across to you. You are a number, and this is why I count you as being

number one, when it comes to learning knowledge, because I want you to have the

power, the knowledge and live in reality, not some dream world. Convert the

total number of grams of carbs you consume into a single number. Do the szame

for your K constant or I:C insulin to carb ratio. It is simple to do. For

instance just say it takes 3 units of Humalog to adequately cover 15 grams of

carbs consumed. In this case the K is derived by simply dividing the 3 by 15, or

3/15, which would equal 0.2. The K constant will vary according to one's insulin

resistance. This is why it takes numerous measurements before and after

consuming carbs and dosing insulin in order to figure out what the individual

diabetic's insulin to carb ratio actually is. Since I live in the USA I figure

getting within ±10 points of the before glr with the two hour post prandial glr

is reasonable for deriving the I:C insulin to carb ratio. For those using mole

measures a half mole or around a ±0.5 glr is fairly adequate for deriving the K

or I:C ratio. It takes many measurements or glr's to derive the actual K

constant, and these measures need to be done at different times of the day. Just

remember the old adage, large numbers means big mistakes and small numbers means

small mistakes. Of course the glr's are affected by what kind of carbs you

consume as well as how much fat or protein you consume with them. This is why

learning through experimentation is essential for you to do. In some cases

medications or drugs for things like high blood pressure or congestive heart

failure can also affect the value of the K or insulin to carb ratio.

Yes, grasshopper you are a number, and in my book you are number 1.

The Guru

[Guest guest]

I just wanted to comment to Mark that it is not true that a type 2 cannot

use insulin temporarily to get their blood sugars under better control and

then stop using it later. It's also not true that a type 2 has to wait until

they've had diabetes for 10-15 years to start insulin. There are many type

2s who use insulin temporarily while they are losing weight or for other

reasons and then stop using it once their blood sugars are under control. In

fact, there are several studies that have shown that type 2s who use insulin

on a temporary basis early on in diabetes, before they need to fully depend

on it for control, have better overall diabetes control years down the road

even *without* insulin later on. Using insulin lets the insulin-producing

cells " rest " so that they are better able to control blood sugars even after

years of diabetes. I can't cite the studies off the top of my head but can

dig around and see if I can find them to post later if anyone is interested.

For some reason many type 2s seem very scared of insulin. The only thing

that makes a type 2 " worse off " than a type 1 (not that either one is really

" worse " , they are just very different) is that reluctance to use insulin, as

there isn't really any reason a type 2 couldn't take insulin and gain better

control with a less restrictive diet. Type 2s on insulin often have an

easier time with control than type 1s because their body is still producing

some insulin that's able to even things out a bit. Perhaps part of the

problem is doctors' attitudes, too. I read so many posts (mostly elsewhere)

about type 2s who are eating next to nothing or exercising for ridiculous

amounts of time or who have highs that take an entire day to come down into

range that I think more of them should give insulin a try; it's not nearly

as scary as most people think.

How high are your blood sugars going when you eat foods other than salads?

If normal food is pushing your blood sugar up into the 200 or 300 range or

higher, you may really want to ask your doctor about using insulin. It

doesn't necessarily mean you will be using it for the rest of your life,

only a type 1 knows that for sure! Many type 2s I've talked to have said

going on insulin is the best choice they ever made and they wished they'd

done it years earlier. You may also want to look into the glycemic index

which is the speed at which food raises your blood sugar, as this is what

you are talking about with the difference between white rice and whole grain

rice, and it applies to many other types of food. Good luck!

Jen

[Guest guest]

I just wanted to comment to Mark that it is not true that a type 2 cannot

use insulin temporarily to get their blood sugars under better control and

then stop using it later. It's also not true that a type 2 has to wait until

they've had diabetes for 10-15 years to start insulin. There are many type

2s who use insulin temporarily while they are losing weight or for other

reasons and then stop using it once their blood sugars are under control. In

fact, there are several studies that have shown that type 2s who use insulin

on a temporary basis early on in diabetes, before they need to fully depend

on it for control, have better overall diabetes control years down the road

even *without* insulin later on. Using insulin lets the insulin-producing

cells " rest " so that they are better able to control blood sugars even after

years of diabetes. I can't cite the studies off the top of my head but can

dig around and see if I can find them to post later if anyone is interested.

For some reason many type 2s seem very scared of insulin. The only thing

that makes a type 2 " worse off " than a type 1 (not that either one is really

" worse " , they are just very different) is that reluctance to use insulin, as

there isn't really any reason a type 2 couldn't take insulin and gain better

control with a less restrictive diet. Type 2s on insulin often have an

easier time with control than type 1s because their body is still producing

some insulin that's able to even things out a bit. Perhaps part of the

problem is doctors' attitudes, too. I read so many posts (mostly elsewhere)

about type 2s who are eating next to nothing or exercising for ridiculous

amounts of time or who have highs that take an entire day to come down into

range that I think more of them should give insulin a try; it's not nearly

as scary as most people think.

How high are your blood sugars going when you eat foods other than salads?

If normal food is pushing your blood sugar up into the 200 or 300 range or

higher, you may really want to ask your doctor about using insulin. It

doesn't necessarily mean you will be using it for the rest of your life,

only a type 1 knows that for sure! Many type 2s I've talked to have said

going on insulin is the best choice they ever made and they wished they'd

done it years earlier. You may also want to look into the glycemic index

which is the speed at which food raises your blood sugar, as this is what

you are talking about with the difference between white rice and whole grain

rice, and it applies to many other types of food. Good luck!

Jen

[Guest guest]

Mark,

Have yo eard of a drug called prandin? It is ahort acting drug that makes

your pancreas put out mor insulin. I know of a lot of type 2 diaabetics who

take this befor eating (eith 1 or 2 mgm) and it keeps there BG down after

eating and does not cause long term to your insulin cells. Ask your doc

about this drug and see if he/she willprescribe it for you. That will allow

to eat a few more carbs once in a while. Also, as Cy says, protein has no

carbs so you can eat more of that and feel full.

Re: yes, grasshopper

This post to the diabetic list I have been a part of for about seven years

kind of gives you an idea of how careful I have to be if I wish to control

my sugar after eating. Even though I'm not a type one diabetic, I am

actually worse off because I don't use insulin to keep my sugar from going

up or to low. Us who are type 2 diabetics only take pills when they first

find out we are diabetic. How ever, if us type 2 diabetics don't control our

sugar with diet and exercise we will with in ten to 15 years have to use

insulin as does a type one diabetic. When any diabetic goes out to eat it is

very hard to know exactly how many grams of carbs are in your meal, but you

must get close enough so you can know how much insulin to give your self in

a shot. But in my case I have no insulin and have to stay under the total

amount of carbs per meal I can eat with out raising my blood sugar 2 hours

after I have ate. My sugar did rise yesterday 2 hours after I ate. But it

wasn't as high as other meals can make it go. I know it was the noodles that

done it. I would be better off if I was on insulin, but once you start the

needle it is next to impossible to get off it. I plan to not have to use

insulin and control my sugar by pills, eating right and exercise. some type

2 diabetics can eat more carbs per meal then others. All of our systems are

different. It seems that I can eat around 50 grams of carbs in a day and

control my sugar level very well and keep it in the safe range. The ADA says

I can eat up to 150 grams of carbs in a day and be ok. Well when they first

told me back in 02 that I'm a diabetic I went by there numbers. My sugar

levels went out of sight and I felt really bad. I heard of this list of

diabetics that live the disease daily and they told me to for get about how

I learned from the ADA. They helped me to get my sugar under control and now

if I do as they say, then I can control my 2 hour sugar levels after I have

ate.

This is mainly why in order to regulate my sugar when I go out to eat I eat

mostly salads. Most raw veggies like in a salad are all low carb and even

eating a large salad doesn't raise my sugar out of control. The dressing can

though, so in most cases I eat my salad dry. I do slip up from time to time

and eat food that I know will jack my sugar out of control, but then I'm

just a human and I like every one else have weak moments. With out the

needle and insulin though, I have no way to bring my sugar level back down

to safe ranges other then skip the next meal, drink lots of water and

exercise. It doesn't do any good to take another pill.

Now if though noodles yesterday would have been whole grain noodles instead

of rice noodles, then I would have been ok. whole grain rice is brown

because the wheat still has the hull or husk still on the drain. This makes

it kind of tough to eat and most folks don't like it. But the shell still on

the grain is what keeps it from breaking down in my blood stream and raising

my sugar levels. Rice is just as bad for a diabetic as eating white flour if

it isn't a whole grain rice. I'm not even sure if there is such a thing. If

I get the soup again and I probably will, I will tell them to leave out the

noodles. I can eat the rest of it and be ok with my sugar levels.

In my case it is a 2 edge sword. I'm trying to eat less and control my sugar

level at the same time. One at a time is hard enough by it self to figure

out. But if I skip to many meals or not have a snack, then I get low sugar

and this is just as dangerous as high sugar. It is a balancing act when I

eat because I'm not on the insulin by the needle like all type one's and

half of type two's. Counting grams of carbs per meal or snack is a life line

for all type one or two diabetics if they plan to live a healthy life with

out passing young.

Some time when ever you got a moment look up the amount of carbs in food and

you will see how hard it is to stay around 50 total grams of carbs for a

day. Mostly it means I have to eat mostly salad every day if I wish to stay

under or near this amount. If my sugar level is higher then 120 after I eat,

then I'm not eating right and I'm slowly destroying my health.

Just wanted to give you a look at how I have to look at food if I wish to

live on and become old like you. I do wish to live and I do plan to do

better. mainly got to stay away from processed flour and sugar. By doing

this I will do good and live a long life. Just remember that if the package

says whole grain it doesn't mean it is whole grain as it is for a diabetic.

processed flour means the hull or husk has been removes and this is a no no

food for a diabetic. Only the whole grain is what we can eat and not be

effected by the sugar in it.

Now I'm a type 2 diabetic simply because for many years I didn't control my

weight. Type 2 diabetes is mainly caused from a big belly. Type one is from

birth or at a very young age and different in many ways. But no one will

read up on a disease unless they are dealing with it. I could have cared

less about diabetes when I didn't have it. Now I have it and I read up on it

by listening to those people who deal with the disease on a daily schedule.

I don't listen to so called experts who think they know and don't. I listen

to only those who deal directly with the killer if not controlled.

yes, grasshopper

It is true. The holder of knowledge is the holder of power. To dispel

ignorance is to spread power. The problem comes when one confuses simplicity

with simple-mindness. They are very different concepts. For instance very

few people understand Einstein's simple formula, E=MC², Where E stands for

energy, M stands for mass and C stands for the speed of light. Even I cannot

explain it to OTHERS. I do know That the C in this simple formula is a

constant which does nod change its value in today's world. The I:C, insulin

to carb ratio is also a constant, which must be determined by each diabetic

who doses Humalog Or Novolog to cover bolus carb consumption. Let us call

this I:C ratio the K constant. If you know your K, and if you also know how

to count the number of grams of carbs consumed and you also dose

short-acting insulin like Humalog or Novolog to cover the grams of carbs

consumed,then all you need to know is this simple formula:

KC=H,

where C is the number of grams of carbs consumed and H is the number of

units of Humalog or Novolog needed to be dosed to cover what you ate or

drank, regarding their carb gram total amount consumed content. Yes, it is

that simple no matter whether you dose short-acting insulin via a syringe, a

pen or a pump. Once a person is an expert carb counter, since this is a very

simple matter of addition, but getting the exact carb gram count is

difficult to do, but you can get very close to the actual number of grams

you consumed after a bit of practice, which will make the use of the above

formula very useful to you. This is why I prefer using numbers to do

research and experiments, because the real numbers do not change that much.

Don't be a crybaby and start whining, " I am not a number. " Don't be so naive

as to think you are not a number. If you are a USA citizen you are assigned

a number, if you can't believe it, just look at your social security card.

If you have a bank account, you have a bank I. D. number, just look at your

checkbook. If you have a credit card you are assigned a number, just look at

the front and back of whatever credit card you have and there are some vital

nummbers on each side of the card needed to fullfill a purchase. If you

drive a car or have a state I. D. card, you have a number on it along with a

picture of your very own person on the front of it. If you attend college or

a University, then you probably have a student or faculty I. D. card with

your picture and an assigned number on it, too. So the fact of the matter is

coming across to you. You are a number, and this is why I count you as being

number one, when it comes to learning knowledge, because I want you to have

the power, the knowledge and live in reality, not some dream world. Convert

the total number of grams of carbs you consume into a single number. Do the

szame for your K constant or I:C insulin to carb ratio. It is simple to do.

For instance just say it takes 3 units of Humalog to adequately cover 15

grams of carbs consumed. In this case the K is derived by simply dividing

the 3 by 15, or 3/15, which would equal 0.2. The K constant will vary

according to one's insulin resistance. This is why it takes numerous

measurements before and after consuming carbs and dosing insulin in order to

figure out what the individual diabetic's insulin to carb ratio actually is.

Since I live in the USA I figure getting within ±10 points of the before glr

with the two hour post prandial glr is reasonable for deriving the I:C

insulin to carb ratio. For those using mole measures a half mole or around a

±0.5 glr is fairly adequate for deriving the K or I:C ratio. It takes many

measurements or glr's to derive the actual K constant, and these measures

need to be done at different times of the day. Just remember the old adage,

large numbers means big mistakes and small numbers means small mistakes. Of

course the glr's are affected by what kind of carbs you consume as well as

how much fat or protein you consume with them. This is why learning through

experimentation is essential for you to do. In some cases medications or

drugs for things like high blood pressure or congestive heart failure can

also affect the value of the K or insulin to carb ratio.

Yes, grasshopper you are a number, and in my book you are number 1.

The Guru

[Guest guest]

Mark,

Have yo eard of a drug called prandin? It is ahort acting drug that makes

your pancreas put out mor insulin. I know of a lot of type 2 diaabetics who

take this befor eating (eith 1 or 2 mgm) and it keeps there BG down after

eating and does not cause long term to your insulin cells. Ask your doc

about this drug and see if he/she willprescribe it for you. That will allow

to eat a few more carbs once in a while. Also, as Cy says, protein has no

carbs so you can eat more of that and feel full.

Re: yes, grasshopper

This post to the diabetic list I have been a part of for about seven years

kind of gives you an idea of how careful I have to be if I wish to control

my sugar after eating. Even though I'm not a type one diabetic, I am

actually worse off because I don't use insulin to keep my sugar from going

up or to low. Us who are type 2 diabetics only take pills when they first

find out we are diabetic. How ever, if us type 2 diabetics don't control our

sugar with diet and exercise we will with in ten to 15 years have to use

insulin as does a type one diabetic. When any diabetic goes out to eat it is

very hard to know exactly how many grams of carbs are in your meal, but you

must get close enough so you can know how much insulin to give your self in

a shot. But in my case I have no insulin and have to stay under the total

amount of carbs per meal I can eat with out raising my blood sugar 2 hours

after I have ate. My sugar did rise yesterday 2 hours after I ate. But it

wasn't as high as other meals can make it go. I know it was the noodles that

done it. I would be better off if I was on insulin, but once you start the

needle it is next to impossible to get off it. I plan to not have to use

insulin and control my sugar by pills, eating right and exercise. some type

2 diabetics can eat more carbs per meal then others. All of our systems are

different. It seems that I can eat around 50 grams of carbs in a day and

control my sugar level very well and keep it in the safe range. The ADA says

I can eat up to 150 grams of carbs in a day and be ok. Well when they first

told me back in 02 that I'm a diabetic I went by there numbers. My sugar

levels went out of sight and I felt really bad. I heard of this list of

diabetics that live the disease daily and they told me to for get about how

I learned from the ADA. They helped me to get my sugar under control and now

if I do as they say, then I can control my 2 hour sugar levels after I have

ate.

This is mainly why in order to regulate my sugar when I go out to eat I eat

mostly salads. Most raw veggies like in a salad are all low carb and even

eating a large salad doesn't raise my sugar out of control. The dressing can

though, so in most cases I eat my salad dry. I do slip up from time to time

and eat food that I know will jack my sugar out of control, but then I'm

just a human and I like every one else have weak moments. With out the

needle and insulin though, I have no way to bring my sugar level back down

to safe ranges other then skip the next meal, drink lots of water and

exercise. It doesn't do any good to take another pill.

Now if though noodles yesterday would have been whole grain noodles instead

of rice noodles, then I would have been ok. whole grain rice is brown

because the wheat still has the hull or husk still on the drain. This makes

it kind of tough to eat and most folks don't like it. But the shell still on

the grain is what keeps it from breaking down in my blood stream and raising

my sugar levels. Rice is just as bad for a diabetic as eating white flour if

it isn't a whole grain rice. I'm not even sure if there is such a thing. If

I get the soup again and I probably will, I will tell them to leave out the

noodles. I can eat the rest of it and be ok with my sugar levels.

In my case it is a 2 edge sword. I'm trying to eat less and control my sugar

level at the same time. One at a time is hard enough by it self to figure

out. But if I skip to many meals or not have a snack, then I get low sugar

and this is just as dangerous as high sugar. It is a balancing act when I

eat because I'm not on the insulin by the needle like all type one's and

half of type two's. Counting grams of carbs per meal or snack is a life line

for all type one or two diabetics if they plan to live a healthy life with

out passing young.

Some time when ever you got a moment look up the amount of carbs in food and

you will see how hard it is to stay around 50 total grams of carbs for a

day. Mostly it means I have to eat mostly salad every day if I wish to stay

under or near this amount. If my sugar level is higher then 120 after I eat,

then I'm not eating right and I'm slowly destroying my health.

Just wanted to give you a look at how I have to look at food if I wish to

live on and become old like you. I do wish to live and I do plan to do

better. mainly got to stay away from processed flour and sugar. By doing

this I will do good and live a long life. Just remember that if the package

says whole grain it doesn't mean it is whole grain as it is for a diabetic.

processed flour means the hull or husk has been removes and this is a no no

food for a diabetic. Only the whole grain is what we can eat and not be

effected by the sugar in it.

Now I'm a type 2 diabetic simply because for many years I didn't control my

weight. Type 2 diabetes is mainly caused from a big belly. Type one is from

birth or at a very young age and different in many ways. But no one will

read up on a disease unless they are dealing with it. I could have cared

less about diabetes when I didn't have it. Now I have it and I read up on it

by listening to those people who deal with the disease on a daily schedule.

I don't listen to so called experts who think they know and don't. I listen

to only those who deal directly with the killer if not controlled.

yes, grasshopper

It is true. The holder of knowledge is the holder of power. To dispel

ignorance is to spread power. The problem comes when one confuses simplicity

with simple-mindness. They are very different concepts. For instance very

few people understand Einstein's simple formula, E=MC², Where E stands for

energy, M stands for mass and C stands for the speed of light. Even I cannot

explain it to OTHERS. I do know That the C in this simple formula is a

constant which does nod change its value in today's world. The I:C, insulin

to carb ratio is also a constant, which must be determined by each diabetic

who doses Humalog Or Novolog to cover bolus carb consumption. Let us call

this I:C ratio the K constant. If you know your K, and if you also know how

to count the number of grams of carbs consumed and you also dose

short-acting insulin like Humalog or Novolog to cover the grams of carbs

consumed,then all you need to know is this simple formula:

KC=H,

where C is the number of grams of carbs consumed and H is the number of

units of Humalog or Novolog needed to be dosed to cover what you ate or

drank, regarding their carb gram total amount consumed content. Yes, it is

that simple no matter whether you dose short-acting insulin via a syringe, a

pen or a pump. Once a person is an expert carb counter, since this is a very

simple matter of addition, but getting the exact carb gram count is

difficult to do, but you can get very close to the actual number of grams

you consumed after a bit of practice, which will make the use of the above

formula very useful to you. This is why I prefer using numbers to do

research and experiments, because the real numbers do not change that much.

Don't be a crybaby and start whining, " I am not a number. " Don't be so naive

as to think you are not a number. If you are a USA citizen you are assigned

a number, if you can't believe it, just look at your social security card.

If you have a bank account, you have a bank I. D. number, just look at your

checkbook. If you have a credit card you are assigned a number, just look at

the front and back of whatever credit card you have and there are some vital

nummbers on each side of the card needed to fullfill a purchase. If you

drive a car or have a state I. D. card, you have a number on it along with a

picture of your very own person on the front of it. If you attend college or

a University, then you probably have a student or faculty I. D. card with

your picture and an assigned number on it, too. So the fact of the matter is

coming across to you. You are a number, and this is why I count you as being

number one, when it comes to learning knowledge, because I want you to have

the power, the knowledge and live in reality, not some dream world. Convert

the total number of grams of carbs you consume into a single number. Do the

szame for your K constant or I:C insulin to carb ratio. It is simple to do.

For instance just say it takes 3 units of Humalog to adequately cover 15

grams of carbs consumed. In this case the K is derived by simply dividing

the 3 by 15, or 3/15, which would equal 0.2. The K constant will vary

according to one's insulin resistance. This is why it takes numerous

measurements before and after consuming carbs and dosing insulin in order to

figure out what the individual diabetic's insulin to carb ratio actually is.

Since I live in the USA I figure getting within ±10 points of the before glr

with the two hour post prandial glr is reasonable for deriving the I:C

insulin to carb ratio. For those using mole measures a half mole or around a

±0.5 glr is fairly adequate for deriving the K or I:C ratio. It takes many

measurements or glr's to derive the actual K constant, and these measures

need to be done at different times of the day. Just remember the old adage,

large numbers means big mistakes and small numbers means small mistakes. Of

course the glr's are affected by what kind of carbs you consume as well as

how much fat or protein you consume with them. This is why learning through

experimentation is essential for you to do. In some cases medications or

drugs for things like high blood pressure or congestive heart failure can

also affect the value of the K or insulin to carb ratio.

Yes, grasshopper you are a number, and in my book you are number 1.

The Guru

[Guest guest]

Yes I do have a copy that Dean Master's sent out a few years back. I pretty

well got the carb count down in most foods, but hard to count at restaurants. I

mainly sent the post to the list to show a friend of mine how careful us who are

diabetics have to be. She isn't a diabetic and she isn't over weight, but she

just doesn't get the carb counting way of life. Diabetes does run in her family

though. I knew you guys would respond to my post and I will send them all to

her. She means well when ever we go out to eat with her, but she still thinks

counting carbs at a meal is silly. I suppose if you aren't a diabetic or know

some one who is, then no need to worry over it. I seem to do much better on

eating 2 salads a day as Gabe Mirkin says to do. I not only control my 2 hour

sugar level, but I drop weight as well. I dig salads and I only trip now and

then. Last year I done the 2 salads a day for 69 straight days with out messing

up and I lost 41 pounds and felt grate. But like most humans I got off the good

way of eating and fell hard. Now I'm on my way back. No processed flour or sugar

seems to work best for me. I know it is rather a bore at times, but it does

work.

yes, grasshopper

It is true. The holder of knowledge is the holder of power. To dispel

ignorance is to spread power. The problem comes when one confuses simplicity

with simple-mindness. They are very different concepts. For instance very

few people understand Einstein's simple formula, E=MC², Where E stands for

energy, M stands for mass and C stands for the speed of light. Even I cannot

explain it to OTHERS. I do know That the C in this simple formula is a

constant which does nod change its value in today's world. The I:C, insulin

to carb ratio is also a constant, which must be determined by each diabetic

who doses Humalog Or Novolog to cover bolus carb consumption. Let us call

this I:C ratio the K constant. If you know your K, and if you also know how

to count the number of grams of carbs consumed and you also dose

short-acting insulin like Humalog or Novolog to cover the grams of carbs

consumed,then all you need to know is this simple formula:

KC=H,

where C is the number of grams of carbs consumed and H is the number of

units of Humalog or Novolog needed to be dosed to cover what you ate or

drank, regarding their carb gram total amount consumed content. Yes, it is

that simple no matter whether you dose short-acting insulin via a syringe, a

pen or a pump. Once a person is an expert carb counter, since this is a very

simple matter of addition, but getting the exact carb gram count is

difficult to do, but you can get very close to the actual number of grams

you consumed after a bit of practice, which will make the use of the above

formula very useful to you. This is why I prefer using numbers to do

research and experiments, because the real numbers do not change that much.

Don't be a crybaby and start whining, " I am not a number. " Don't be so naive

as to think you are not a number. If you are a USA citizen you are assigned

a number, if you can't believe it, just look at your social security card.

If you have a bank account, you have a bank I. D. number, just look at your

checkbook. If you have a credit card you are assigned a number, just look at

the front and back of whatever credit card you have and there are some vital

nummbers on each side of the card needed to fullfill a purchase. If you

drive a car or have a state I. D. card, you have a number on it along with a

picture of your very own person on the front of it. If you attend college or

a University, then you probably have a student or faculty I. D. card with

your picture and an assigned number on it, too. So the fact of the matter is

coming across to you. You are a number, and this is why I count you as being

number one, when it comes to learning knowledge, because I want you to have

the power, the knowledge and live in reality, not some dream world. Convert

the total number of grams of carbs you consume into a single number. Do the

szame for your K constant or I:C insulin to carb ratio. It is simple to do.

For instance just say it takes 3 units of Humalog to adequately cover 15

grams of carbs consumed. In this case the K is derived by simply dividing

the 3 by 15, or 3/15, which would equal 0.2. The K constant will vary

according to one's insulin resistance. This is why it takes numerous

measurements before and after consuming carbs and dosing insulin in order to

figure out what the individual diabetic's insulin to carb ratio actually is.

Since I live in the USA I figure getting within ±10 points of the before glr

with the two hour post prandial glr is reasonable for deriving the I:C

insulin to carb ratio. For those using mole measures a half mole or around a

±0.5 glr is fairly adequate for deriving the K or I:C ratio. It takes many

measurements or glr's to derive the actual K constant, and these measures

need to be done at different times of the day. Just remember the old adage,

large numbers means big mistakes and small numbers means small mistakes. Of

course the glr's are affected by what kind of carbs you consume as well as

how much fat or protein you consume with them. This is why learning through

experimentation is essential for you to do. In some cases medications or

drugs for things like high blood pressure or congestive heart failure can

also affect the value of the K or insulin to carb ratio.

Yes, grasshopper you are a number, and in my book you are number 1.

The Guru