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I also have scolliosis (sp?) and have gone to chiropractors for that and

sciatic nerve problems. While it feels great right after an adjustment, a

day or two later I feel just as bad. I probably would go more often but

insurance doesn't pay and I can't afford it. I do notice tho that a massage

on the area of my back that is constantly pulling to keep my spine straight

helps more than anything other than keeping my weight down and exercising. I

am very reluctant to have my childs spine adjusted. It just scares me. I

would suggest that if you do tho, you would chose someone used to working on

children not just adults.

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HI a-- a good book to read is Inside Chiropractic, by

Homola, D.C.-- this will give you some insight into the mechanics of

chiropractic. It basically says that we should limit it to treating

musculoskeletal disorders and that is it.

Now, with that said, I can tell you that I feel a lot better after an

adjustment... we did do atlas chiropractic (first/second vertebrae

only) on our two kids. Ethan responded very well to the first few

treatments, and then after that, I saw no benefit from continuing to

go (and pay big bucks!).

I seriously doubt anyone has a perfectly aligned spine. To do this,

your body would have to be perfectly symmetrical in terms of muscle

strength and length. We are not perfect beings.

If I were you, I would go to no more than a month or two of

chiropractic -- and be UP FRONT with the person about this. Because

otherwise, they may sell you a well-care plan, in which you feel

obligated to keep going.

I took Ethan out of chiro because it was too expensive, we saw no

more changes in him... then after a while, I saw his nervous system

getting really wired again (he's sensory integration dysfunction, not

autism), and so I thought, well, let me take him back and see what

happens. No change whatsoever from adjusting his atlas that time.

We've only been back once since then. Your time and money are better

spent treating the autism from the inside... BUT, I would not

discourage you from trying it. Try it, but have a FIRM time limit in

your mind otherwise you may have a very empty wallet.

W

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> Hi!

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> I want to ask some questions, since I'm exploring a new avenue. It

is my contention that Chriopractors are key to helping a person have

a healthy body. I feel the spine controls so much in the body, that

having a healthy one is important.

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I have to second what said. An X-ray showed that my son's first three

cervical vertabrae were out of alignment, so we were all gung-ho about the

chiropractor thing. We went to one chiro for 20 visits, and the only

improvement I saw was that his back seemed cooler. My son's back and torso

get really hot sometimes, and I'm not sure why, but it seemed to get better

with treatments. Then the chiro started a series of more painful adjustments

(cracking or popping the neck) and we stopped going. Both my son and I were

nervous about this method. Lately, though, his back began to get really hot

again, so we found another chiro. We've been to see her eight times, and she

keeps saying how Philip is doing so well (from the viewpoint of a

chiropractor), but I see no changes or improvements at all. This is a

wonderful chiro, but I don't think it's helping my son, so we're going to

stop going and put our time and money elsewhere.

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Hi, a!

I am a big believer in a good chiropractor. I have scoliosis also, and have

been having adjustments since my late twenties (I'm 44 now). Both of my kids

see the chiropractor at least once a month, or more, depending on whether they

have any particular need. I only use traditional chiropractors, and I think

that is an important point.

I had an excellent female chiropractor in New Orleans, and I have a good

chiropractor here in CT where I live now. I have been to a bad chiropractor, so

I know what that is like. It hurt (it should never hurt). I always ask where

they went to chiropractic school, if they practice traditional chiropractic,

etc.

I think chiropractors are especially important for kids as they are growing so

much it helps to make sure that their bodies grow nice and straight. I only

wish my parents had taken me as a child. I went through years of pain. My

parents subscribed to the " all chiropractors are quacks " school of thought.

That is, until I started going and improved. Suddenly they had to go when they

had back or neck problems themselves. Pretty ironic.

I think it is especially important to see a chiropractor when there is an

injury. The adjustments really speed the healing process, as does the physical

therapy (electro-stimulation pads, massage, etc) that the chiropractor provides

as part of the treatment. My son broke his collar bone in June, and has been

having adjustments frequently, which has helped him tremendously. Having a

broken collar bone puts tremendous stress on the neck muscles, pulling the neck

out of alignment, which adds to the pain. My daughter used to have seizures

frequently and had a lot of falls. First I took her for cranial-sacral physical

therapy, which she loved. Then I started taking her for adjustments when I felt

she was old enough to handle it (she's Autistic and very tactile defensive). I

would have taken her earlier, but the chiropractor was nervous about treating

her because of her seizures. He was afraid he would cause a seizure!! Now, he

loves to talk about how well she does when she comes to see him. She just jumps

up on the table, lays down, and waits for the pleasure of being adjusted!!! She

absolutely loves it.

Tell your husband not to judge until he has tried it. Maybe he should go for an

adjustment to judge for himself. As for the cost, most insurance, including

Medicaid, covers chiropractic care these days.

I am a single mom, and I always say that my ideal husband would be a physical

therapist and chiropractor rolled into one!

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Hi!

I want to ask some questions, since I'm exploring a new avenue. It is my

contention that Chriopractors are key to helping a person have a healthy body.

I feel the spine controls so much in the body, that having a healthy one is

important. I have scoliosis (sp). I don't know why or how, but I do. I took

my autistic son to a Chriopractor who specializes in children with autism and

ADHD. I feel this is the second key to his health, next to the chelation. A

simple observation from a mom suffering from years of back pain, and poor

health. Anyhow, the ex-hubby doesn't agree. He thinks Chriopractors are

nothing short of " voodoo doctors " . He doesn't want me to pursue this. This

from the man who felt chelation was " voodoo " and now he can't say enough about

it. My son has improved 50% just from two rounds. So, those on the list who

have seen Chiropractors, what are your thoughts? Should I not waste my time an

Opinions, please!

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I have to agree with Michele-- the adjustments feel good, but in a

way they make me worse! Because I find that I realize when I am out

of alignment,a nd then I HAVE to go back again... I honestly felt

like an addict going through withdrawals recently. It was a terrible

feeling. I thought--I don't want to put Ethan through this. I think

all the manipulation made the muscles looser and so then I was MORE

likely to slip out of alignment. In the past, we went to one place

because our insurance paid for it, and after quite a few adjustments,

it got to the point where within a half hour of the adjustment, I was

feeling " out " again! I too am scared about the twisting of the neck

on children... When we did chiro for Ethan, the first time had been

the activator (which you can read about in that book I mentioned)...

and the second was just an activator-like device to adjust the first

vertebrae only-- it was very gentle. But still, there were some

times when Ethan would say " oh, I think I need to go see Dr. W

again " ... so then when I started having withdrawals from not going

(because we couldn't afford it anymore)-- I thought, Oh, man, I don't

want him to become a " crack " addict!

On an off note, I did use acupuncture and it did seem to help with a

specific back pain that I had had for years, but what really did it

was that I figured out that by massaging the same acupuncture points

myself when I was home, I eliminated the sore spot completely. Now,

on the ocassion that it returns, I just massage the acu points again

and the pain goes away.

W

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> day or two later I feel just as bad.

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I want to mention in addition to 's post that I have heard

people on the sensory integration board say that CST, cranio-sacral

therapy has done a world of good for their kids. Ethan has had

something that looks like it from his naturopath and it was very

calming and relaxing for him, and the benefits did stay with him for

a short while. I have not taken him to a CST person yet though, but

that might be something for you to look into. Some chiro's do CST

and so it can be covered under your insurance as a chiro visit. I

think some osteopaths do CST, too.

W

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> Anyhow, the ex-hubby doesn't agree. He thinks Chriopractors are

nothing short of " voodoo doctors " . He doesn't want me to pursue

this. This from the man who felt chelation was " voodoo " and now he

can't say enough about it.

:)

> My son has improved 50% just from two

rounds. So, those on the list who have seen Chiropractors, what are

your thoughts? Should I not waste my time and money? I think I

should after seeing his x-rays and test results.

I have scoliosis that doesn't " bother me " . (Which probably

just means I am " used to " whatever it impairs!) I have had

a year or two or " network " chiropractic adjustments. (That is

a TYPE of chiro-- it is very very gentle!) I enjoyed it.

I didn't see obvious related effects, but I don't know that

we can always tell what is " related " , and I don't feel it

was wasted.

I am currently having cranial manipulation done. Similar

to cranial-sacral adjustments. I think this is also something

to consider. It is also very very gentle. I am seeing

an osteopath [OD] who is experienced with this. I think

that the SKULL bones would reasonably have a lot more effect

on the brain than the back vertebrae. I am not saying that

the entire nervous system is not important--- just that you

might consider the skull bones in particular. And you might

look into getting a cranial exam or cranial manipulation

as an alternative also. There is a small amount of material

about cranial-sacral therapy and osteopathic manipulation

in each of these files:

/files/Books_about_autism

/files/HOW_TO_find_doctor

best wishes,

Moria

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Many chiropractors use medicine from Indian or china that have been around

for thousands of years. It would not still be around if it didn't work.

I am sending my son to a chiropractor to help with his gut issues and detox

him as there are no DAN doctors near here.

Additionally, I have another chirpractor that does the BEST system (not sure of

meaning but it has to so with bio energy in your body). She seems to think that

the symptoms we are experiecing with my son are from when I was pregnant

with him. I was under extreme stress as my house was hit by a tornado when I

was 5 months pregnant and we had to move out of our house to have it

repaired. She says my son took that energy level as normal and needs to

have his system reset to be in an assessment mode (normal).

I know this may sound a voo-doo to some but I have heard of similar things.

(Kids in utero during a tornado was the worst class to go through a school). I

will be getting treated as well as I am still dealing with this so I will be

able to

judge if I am feeling any better. In the meantime, I will still resume with my

enzymes and procede with future plans of detoxing.

According to the second Chiropractor, you need to treat your entire body, find

the root and fix it. Otherwise you will just be treating symptoms for the rest

of

your life. This makes perfect sense to me.

> > Anyhow, the ex-hubby doesn't agree. He thinks Chriopractors are

> nothing short of " voodoo doctors " . He doesn't want me to pursue

> this. This from the man who felt chelation was " voodoo " and now he

> can't say enough about it.

>

> :)

>

> > My son has improved 50% just from two

> rounds. So, those on the list who have seen Chiropractors, what are

> your thoughts? Should I not waste my time and money? I think I

> should after seeing his x-rays and test results.

>

>

> I have scoliosis that doesn't " bother me " . (Which probably

> just means I am " used to " whatever it impairs!) I have had

> a year or two or " network " chiropractic adjustments. (That is

> a TYPE of chiro-- it is very very gentle!) I enjoyed it.

> I didn't see obvious related effects, but I don't know that

> we can always tell what is " related " , and I don't feel it

> was wasted.

>

> I am currently having cranial manipulation done. Similar

> to cranial-sacral adjustments. I think this is also something

> to consider. It is also very very gentle. I am seeing

> an osteopath [OD] who is experienced with this. I think

> that the SKULL bones would reasonably have a lot more effect

> on the brain than the back vertebrae. I am not saying that

> the entire nervous system is not important--- just that you

> might consider the skull bones in particular. And you might

> look into getting a cranial exam or cranial manipulation

> as an alternative also. There is a small amount of material

> about cranial-sacral therapy and osteopathic manipulation

> in each of these files:

> /files/Books_about_autism

> /files/HOW_TO_find_doctor

>

> best wishes,

> Moria

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Thanks for all the input so far on the Chiropractor. Everyone seems to be

divided on this issue. The ex thinks I should stick to concentrating on the

chelation and forget the chiro until a later date. My boss takes her whole

family to the chiro and swears by it. She feels the chiro cured her

husbands asthma, and her son's ADHD. I don't know what to think.....

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Suggestion: chelate AND try the chiropractor.

Andy . . . . . . . . .

> Thanks for all the input so far on the Chiropractor. Everyone seems

to be

> divided on this issue. The ex thinks I should stick to

concentrating on the

> chelation and forget the chiro until a later date. My boss takes

her whole

> family to the chiro and swears by it. She feels the chiro cured her

> husbands asthma, and her son's ADHD. I don't know what to

think.....

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