Re: Surely this isn't true?

[Guest guest]

According to the R.D. that I talked to black coffee has 5 calories and 1

gram of carbs. Tea has no carbs and 1 calorie. Hope that helps.

Re: Surely this isn't true?

Thankyou very much for all the trouble you are going to. I really

appreciate it.

Surely this isn't true?

I just read that only 6 fluid ounces of black coffee has 178 calories.

This may not sound like a lot to most people, but when you can drink 100

ounces in a day easy, well this adds up to a lot of calories. I just can't

understand how black coffee with no sugar or cream in it can have so many

calories. When you are trying to lose weight, you must burn more then you

take in or it is fighting a losing battle. I enjoy a bit of cream in my

coffee and this makes it go higher in calories. I keep thinking this has

to

be a mistake, but I've looked at it over and over and it isn't changing.

When I go out to eat breakfast I let them refill my coffee cup as many

times

as they come around. How can this be so?

[Guest guest]

According to the R.D. that I talked to black coffee has 5 calories and 1

gram of carbs. Tea has no carbs and 1 calorie. Hope that helps.

Re: Surely this isn't true?

Thankyou very much for all the trouble you are going to. I really

appreciate it.

Surely this isn't true?

I just read that only 6 fluid ounces of black coffee has 178 calories.

This may not sound like a lot to most people, but when you can drink 100

ounces in a day easy, well this adds up to a lot of calories. I just can't

understand how black coffee with no sugar or cream in it can have so many

calories. When you are trying to lose weight, you must burn more then you

take in or it is fighting a losing battle. I enjoy a bit of cream in my

coffee and this makes it go higher in calories. I keep thinking this has

to

be a mistake, but I've looked at it over and over and it isn't changing.

When I go out to eat breakfast I let them refill my coffee cup as many

times

as they come around. How can this be so?

[Guest guest]

So I can drink my weight in my beloved coffee and no need to worry. Thanks

a lot for grate news.

Surely this isn't true?

I just read that only 6 fluid ounces of black coffee has 178 calories.

This may not sound like a lot to most people, but when you can drink 100

ounces in a day easy, well this adds up to a lot of calories. I just can't

understand how black coffee with no sugar or cream in it can have so many

calories. When you are trying to lose weight, you must burn more then you

take in or it is fighting a losing battle. I enjoy a bit of cream in my

coffee and this makes it go higher in calories. I keep thinking this has

to

be a mistake, but I've looked at it over and over and it isn't changing.

When I go out to eat breakfast I let them refill my coffee cup as many

times

as they come around. How can this be so?

[Guest guest]

So I can drink my weight in my beloved coffee and no need to worry. Thanks

a lot for grate news.

Surely this isn't true?

I just read that only 6 fluid ounces of black coffee has 178 calories.

This may not sound like a lot to most people, but when you can drink 100

ounces in a day easy, well this adds up to a lot of calories. I just can't

understand how black coffee with no sugar or cream in it can have so many

calories. When you are trying to lose weight, you must burn more then you

take in or it is fighting a losing battle. I enjoy a bit of cream in my

coffee and this makes it go higher in calories. I keep thinking this has

to

be a mistake, but I've looked at it over and over and it isn't changing.

When I go out to eat breakfast I let them refill my coffee cup as many

times

as they come around. How can this be so?

[Guest guest]

Okay,for dummies like me who is finally getting in to all of this stuff, what's

the difference between carbs and calories?

Thanks,

Brett.

Surely this isn't true?

I just read that only 6 fluid ounces of black coffee has 178 calories.

This may not sound like a lot to most people, but when you can drink 100

ounces in a day easy, well this adds up to a lot of calories. I just can't

understand how black coffee with no sugar or cream in it can have so many

calories. When you are trying to lose weight, you must burn more then you

take in or it is fighting a losing battle. I enjoy a bit of cream in my

coffee and this makes it go higher in calories. I keep thinking this has

to

be a mistake, but I've looked at it over and over and it isn't changing.

When I go out to eat breakfast I let them refill my coffee cup as many

times

as they come around. How can this be so?

[Guest guest]

Another thing to consider about caffeine if you are trying to lose weight,

while it is free of calories, it is a stimulant, and it can stimulate

appetite in some people. Traditionally, black coffee has been allowed on

diet plans, but more and more I am seeing recommendations that you eliminate

it.

SS

[Guest guest]

Another thing to consider about caffeine if you are trying to lose weight,

while it is free of calories, it is a stimulant, and it can stimulate

appetite in some people. Traditionally, black coffee has been allowed on

diet plans, but more and more I am seeing recommendations that you eliminate

it.

SS

[Guest guest]

I have heard of this before. It hasn't made me wish to eat more so far. I've

always been addicted to over eating my whole life. Coffee doesn't have to help

me with that. But I do believe the very worse addiction of all is food and it

has to be one of the hardest habits to brake. I just don't know about giving

coffee up though. My neighbor did say he stopped drinking coffee for one month

and he says he actually felt better, but he missed it so bad he is drinking it

again. He says he had more energy when he wasn't drinking coffee and was even

sleeping better and staying a sleep through the night. You would think with

improvements like that, he would never go back to drinking coffee? But I

probably would have done the same thing my self. Us humans really do some silly

things for sure.

RE: Surely this isn't true?

Another thing to consider about caffeine if you are trying to lose weight,

while it is free of calories, it is a stimulant, and it can stimulate

appetite in some people. Traditionally, black coffee has been allowed on

diet plans, but more and more I am seeing recommendations that you eliminate

it.

SS

[Guest guest]

I have heard of this before. It hasn't made me wish to eat more so far. I've

always been addicted to over eating my whole life. Coffee doesn't have to help

me with that. But I do believe the very worse addiction of all is food and it

has to be one of the hardest habits to brake. I just don't know about giving

coffee up though. My neighbor did say he stopped drinking coffee for one month

and he says he actually felt better, but he missed it so bad he is drinking it

again. He says he had more energy when he wasn't drinking coffee and was even

sleeping better and staying a sleep through the night. You would think with

improvements like that, he would never go back to drinking coffee? But I

probably would have done the same thing my self. Us humans really do some silly

things for sure.

RE: Surely this isn't true?

Another thing to consider about caffeine if you are trying to lose weight,

while it is free of calories, it is a stimulant, and it can stimulate

appetite in some people. Traditionally, black coffee has been allowed on

diet plans, but more and more I am seeing recommendations that you eliminate

it.

SS

[Guest guest]

Food is divided basically into 3 groups-carbs, protein and fats. Carbs

are the food needed to supply energy to the body and all carbs break

down into glucose. Proteins the building blocks are proteins are needed

to rebuild cells and fat is needed for a number of things, including

making hormones and providing insulation. (This is a very simplified

version.) But carbs is the food that most affect diabetics. All these

food have calories. Carbs have 4 calories per gram, protein has 4

calories per gram and fat has 9 calories per gram.

Re: Surely this isn't true?

Okay,for dummies like me who is finally getting in to all of this stuff,

what's the difference between carbs and calories?

Thanks,

Brett.

Surely this isn't true?

I just read that only 6 fluid ounces of black coffee has 178 calories.

This may not sound like a lot to most people, but when you can drink 100

ounces in a day easy, well this adds up to a lot of calories. I just

can't

understand how black coffee with no sugar or cream in it can have so

many

calories. When you are trying to lose weight, you must burn more then

you

take in or it is fighting a losing battle. I enjoy a bit of cream in my

coffee and this makes it go higher in calories. I keep thinking this has

to

be a mistake, but I've looked at it over and over and it isn't changing.

When I go out to eat breakfast I let them refill my coffee cup as many

times

as they come around. How can this be so?

[Guest guest]

Simply put a Calorie is a heat unit. Four of the seven groups of food

require Calories to burn them, carbs, protein, lipids (or fat), and alcohol.

Water, minerals, and vitamins do not require any Calories. Carbs and

protein give you 4 Cal. per a gram, lipids give you 9, and alcohol gives you

7.

Carbs are a combination of fiber, dietary fiber and sugars that are present

in foods. They supply a constant supply of glucose to the brain and other

organs to keep them functioning properly. Too little carbs and the body

starts to shut down. Have you ever had a headache when you have had low

blood sugars? If so it is because your brain is starving and it is it's way

of letting you know it is hungry. Hope that helps.

Re: Surely this isn't true?

Okay,for dummies like me who is finally getting in to all of this stuff,

what's the difference between carbs and calories?

Thanks,

Brett.

Surely this isn't true?

I just read that only 6 fluid ounces of black coffee has 178 calories.

This may not sound like a lot to most people, but when you can drink 100

ounces in a day easy, well this adds up to a lot of calories. I just can't

understand how black coffee with no sugar or cream in it can have so many

calories. When you are trying to lose weight, you must burn more then you

take in or it is fighting a losing battle. I enjoy a bit of cream in my

coffee and this makes it go higher in calories. I keep thinking this has

to

be a mistake, but I've looked at it over and over and it isn't changing.

When I go out to eat breakfast I let them refill my coffee cup as many

times

as they come around. How can this be so?

[Guest guest]

Hi Mark, I hear what you are saying because it is hard for me too. I have been

diabetic for almost 3 years and though I lost a lot of weight, gained it back.

I'm doing well at the moment but it requires constant vigilance and awareness of

the next meal/snadk and where I shouldn't go, because I end up turning into

another person and craving and eating and not caring. I have learned a lot from

your story about your life and what you have gone through with heart problems

and diabetes. I don't want to go there. When I start to lose that fear I must

go on the computer and find something that sets me straight. As far as coffee

goes, my experience is a bit different than what you said about your friend. I

drink 3 or 4 cups and have for a long time. I quit once because everyone said

it was supposed to be healthier. I quit for over a month. Well, I missed it,

te siccoal part of drinking it with someone, the taste, how it woke me up. I

didn't gain anything that I could identify. I thought long and hard and not by

impulse but I went back to it, where I have no problem and I don't drink it at

night, ever. So these are my thoughts here, and though I'm basically

controlling my diabetes it gets vary hard sometimes. I wonder if there are

others who still have this problem.

Vicki

Our days are happier when we give people a bit of our heart rather than a piece

of our mind.

RE: Surely this isn't true?

Another thing to consider about caffeine if you are trying to lose weight,

while it is free of calories, it is a stimulant, and it can stimulate

appetite in some people. Traditionally, black coffee has been allowed on

diet plans, but more and more I am seeing recommendations that you eliminate

it.

SS

[Guest guest]

Well, I'm having a lot of trouble controlling my diabetes, still, although

what has made a huge difference for me has been what I have learrned on this

list. I had read through all the sites, etc. and couldn't find the

information to help me start in the right direction like here. As reported

a bit back my a1c was 7.5 in February. While I do not expect it to be as

good as Pat's or Harry's I do believe I will see some improvement. I hoep

anyway. I appreciate this group immensely.

_____

From: blind-diabetics

[mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Vicki Breffe

Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 4:27 PM

To: blind-diabetics

Subject: Re: Surely this isn't true?

Hi Mark, I hear what you are saying because it is hard for me too. I have

been diabetic for almost 3 years and though I lost a lot of weight, gained

it back. I'm doing well at the moment but it requires constant vigilance and

awareness of the next meal/snadk and where I shouldn't go, because I end up

turning into another person and craving and eating and not caring. I have

learned a lot from your story about your life and what you have gone through

with heart problems and diabetes. I don't want to go there. When I start to

lose that fear I must go on the computer and find something that sets me

straight. As far as coffee goes, my experience is a bit different than what

you said about your friend. I drink 3 or 4 cups and have for a long time. I

quit once because everyone said it was supposed to be healthier. I quit for

over a month. Well, I missed it, te siccoal part of drinking it with

someone, the taste, how it woke me up. I didn't gain anything that I could

identify. I thought long and hard and not by impulse but I went back to it,

where I have no problem and I don't drink it at night, ever. So these are my

thoughts here, and though I'm basically controlling my diabetes it gets vary

hard sometimes. I wonder if there are others who still have this problem.

Vicki

Our days are happier when we give people a bit of our heart rather than a

piece of our mind.

RE: Surely this isn't true?

Another thing to consider about caffeine if you are trying to lose weight,

while it is free of calories, it is a stimulant, and it can stimulate

appetite in some people. Traditionally, black coffee has been allowed on

diet plans, but more and more I am seeing recommendations that you eliminate

it.

SS

[Guest guest]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the explanations, it does clear things up.

Cheers,

Brett.

Surely this isn't true?

I just read that only 6 fluid ounces of black coffee has 178 calories.

This may not sound like a lot to most people, but when you can drink 100

ounces in a day easy, well this adds up to a lot of calories. I just

can't

understand how black coffee with no sugar or cream in it can have so

many

calories. When you are trying to lose weight, you must burn more then

you

take in or it is fighting a losing battle. I enjoy a bit of cream in my

coffee and this makes it go higher in calories. I keep thinking this has

to

be a mistake, but I've looked at it over and over and it isn't changing.

When I go out to eat breakfast I let them refill my coffee cup as many

times

as they come around. How can this be so?

[Guest guest]

I certainly can relate with you on fighting the craving for food that we

shouldn't be partaking of. I've been about 100 pounds over weight my whole life

and every time I've tried to lose some, well it is a struggle to say the least.

Up until my heart attack last August I heard them all say how over eating was

bad for you and the lack of some kind of exercise every other day was worse.

Well I knew they were telling me because it was true and they were concerned

about my health. But still I ignored the good advice and shoved the wornings to

the far back of my mind. I continued on to eat what ever I pleased, ignored my

blood sugar and never done any kind of exercise for my health.

Then comes my heart attack on August the first and it has changed my life

totally. I was in the hospital for 29 days of August and was hanging on by a

thread fighting for my life for about seven days of that. I was even told before

my open heart operation, that because of being over weight, high blood pressure,

diabetic and out of shape was going to put me in the danger zone as far as

coming through recovery ok. Well i couldn't see where I really had a choice, so

I talked with Jesus and done what I had to do. Prayer from folks who love me,

God not being done with me and my desire to live is what got me through it all.

Then I get out of the hospital and I'm dropping weight pretty fast and it

is way to cool. I really had no desire to eat and I was taking lasix. I got all

the way down to 279 around the middle of October. Then I get some strength back

and here comes my desire to eat again and I shot back up to 319 by the first of

January. Most of the weight I had lost was probably water weight for the most

part, but it still felt good to be around 280 for the first time in many years.

But I'm here to tell you that hearing the talking scales say I had made it back

to ten pounds less then I weighted on the night of my heart attack hit home and

it hit me like a load of bricks.

I knew if I didn't get control of my addiction to over eating and start

exercising on a daily bases, I wasn't going to be around long and no way would I

live through another attack. A friend told me one time that he never could give

up smoking until one day he had got to the point where he was sick and tired of

smoking and actually hated the habit. I didn't understand what he was talking

about back then, but I know for a fact now. I finally got sick and tired of

being over weight and more sick and tired of allowing food to control my life.

It has been an addiction of mine all my life and for ever I had gave in to it

and never thought for one moment what it was doing to my health. I only lived

for the next meal and I lived to eat.

Well in January of this year my attitude changed and for the first time in

my 51 years of living fat, I have finally got my attitude about being healthy in

the right place. This thing with your attitude must be in the right place or you

can't win the battles you will have to face. I eat right now 90 percent of the

time. Use to before the attack it was I ate wrong 90 percent of the time. Just

getting my attitude turned around has turned the eating habit around as well. I

exercise every day for a minium of 90 minutes, I lift my weights of 8 pound dumb

bells every other day for 30 minutes of a morning and 30 more in the evening.

There are of course those days I have to force my fat pig butt to do my bike and

my weights, but with your attitude where it needs to be it is much easier to

make your self do what needs done. i know what to eat now and how much to eat.

Now I would be telling a big white lie if I told you every day was easy and

food will never control me ever again. I'm only human and I still do eat some

thing I know I shouldn't, but the big difference now, is I don't continue in the

bad habit and for get my new attitude. I don't beat my self up for falling apart

for one meal or a snack and throw it all to the wind. I pick my self up and

continue on down the trail as my life is now laid out. Every meal and snack to

me now is just one more battle on my trail that I have to get by in order to get

to the next battle.

Before I got my attitude right I would stay on my eating right plan and

exercise for about 2 or 3 weeks and then slip up and say the hell with it all

and go right back to old habits. I would try the same old habits again, hoping

for different results. Well those days are gone and never again will food

control me. I'm in charge now and it is simply a process with a whole lot of

procedures to do in one day at a time. I can't think about next week and plan

what to eat. I worry about to day and I write down every thing i eat each day so

I can look at it and see where I am and know when I slip up why it happened.

Lots of folks these days have addictions of plenty, but the worse addiction

of all is the one us over weight people have with food. We allow food to control

our life and as well our attitudes. I eat to live now and I feel so much better.

I sleep better, I have more energy, I think better, I look forward now to

exercise and it makes me feel grate when I'm finished. My sugar is much better

and my A1C has been coming down. I am so blessed to even still be around to

enjoy my friends and family who I love so much. I may not have but 3 months left

on this earth, but one thing for sure is i will weigh less then when I go home

to be with my Jesus. It doesn't matter what ever kind of battles any of us have

in our life we have to live. We have to first deal with our attitude and when we

get it on line and up and running right, then all the rest of your tools to

fight the fight will fall in to place. It's not going to ever be easy, but

nothing worth having never is. But I can beat any battle that gets in my path

with a strong and possitive attitude. Now, I believe I will go get me a cup of

hot, black coffee before I hit the hay. God bless and you hang in there and you

will be ok.

RE: Surely this isn't true?

Another thing to consider about caffeine if you are trying to lose weight,

while it is free of calories, it is a stimulant, and it can stimulate

appetite in some people. Traditionally, black coffee has been allowed on

diet plans, but more and more I am seeing recommendations that you eliminate

it.

SS

[Guest guest]

Thanks mark for sharing your very personal story. I know many people on this

list are uplifted by your messages. Your struggles, and your successes, all put

out there for us to examine, are a very good source of motivation and

encouragement. Thank you, and keep them coming!

Dave

RE: Surely this isn't true?

Another thing to consider about caffeine if you are trying to lose weight,

while it is free of calories, it is a stimulant, and it can stimulate

appetite in some people. Traditionally, black coffee has been allowed on

diet plans, but more and more I am seeing recommendations that you eliminate

it.

SS

[Guest guest]

Hi Vicki,

In a paper I wrote for a graduate course, I essentially wrote about how diabetes

requires the highest level of self-management than any other disease. Unlike

cancer and other diseases, diabetes care is almost entirely up to the patient.

A doctor or specialist can tell you what you need to do, but they can't do it

for you. We have to utilize the knowledge and tools we have available, and, as

Mark basically stated, set our minds to the task. Some diabetics, perhaps Harry

is one, must follow a very rigid path, and this helps them get the job done. I

find I need small excesses to off set the otherwise strict regime. This means,

in a given day, I will have a cookie sometime, and perhaps even a small bite

size piece of candy. I have found the foods that work for me, and know how much

insulin to use to counter those foods. You've been a diabetic for 3 years, so,

you're still new at it! I got diabetes when I was 11, so I really never had the

chance to develop a bad pattern of eating. I didn't eat well in those years,

choosing to ignore my diabetes as a teenager and into my early 20s, and ended up

losing my sight eventually at age 33, but I was still young enough to make it

easier to make some necessary changes. Don't worry about little " parties, " and

in fact, maybe you need to fall back on the knowledge that it's ok to have them

every day. but, make sure they're very small parties!

Dave

RE: Surely this isn't true?

Another thing to consider about caffeine if you are trying to lose weight,

while it is free of calories, it is a stimulant, and it can stimulate

appetite in some people. Traditionally, black coffee has been allowed on

diet plans, but more and more I am seeing recommendations that you eliminate

it.

SS

[Guest guest]

Oh!! I second that emotion!!

Thank you Mark!

RE: Surely this isn't true?

Another thing to consider about caffeine if you are trying to lose weight,

while it is free of calories, it is a stimulant, and it can stimulate

appetite in some people. Traditionally, black coffee has been allowed on

diet plans, but more and more I am seeing recommendations that you eliminate

it.

SS

[Guest guest]

Mark,

Your story is great. I heard a Certified Diabetic Educator speak one

time bout teaching a new diabetic to eat right. She said, " It is often

easier to persuade someone to change their religion than to change their

eating patterns. " I believe this from all the type 2 diabetics I have

seen. Food is often an addiction, but not one you can just stop. You

can stop smoking or drinking but no one can completely stop eating,

because you would die of starvation if you quit eating. So learning to

manage your food intake without " falling off the wagon " is what people

have to do; that include changing one's attitude. That is very hard for

people.

It sounds like you have done that mark, and my best wishes for your

continuing success!

Re: Surely this isn't true?

I certainly can relate with you on fighting the craving for food that we

shouldn't be partaking of. I've been about 100 pounds over weight my

whole life and every time I've tried to lose some, well it is a struggle

to say the least. Up until my heart attack last August I heard them all

say how over eating was bad for you and the lack of some kind of

exercise every other day was worse. Well I knew they were telling me

because it was true and they were concerned about my health. But still I

ignored the good advice and shoved the wornings to the far back of my

mind. I continued on to eat what ever I pleased, ignored my blood sugar

and never done any kind of exercise for my health.

Then comes my heart attack on August the first and it has changed my

life totally. I was in the hospital for 29 days of August and was

hanging on by a thread fighting for my life for about seven days of

that. I was even told before my open heart operation, that because of

being over weight, high blood pressure, diabetic and out of shape was

going to put me in the danger zone as far as coming through recovery ok.

Well i couldn't see where I really had a choice, so I talked with Jesus

and done what I had to do. Prayer from folks who love me, God not being

done with me and my desire to live is what got me through it all.

Then I get out of the hospital and I'm dropping weight pretty fast and

it is way to cool. I really had no desire to eat and I was taking lasix.

I got all the way down to 279 around the middle of October. Then I get

some strength back and here comes my desire to eat again and I shot back

up to 319 by the first of January. Most of the weight I had lost was

probably water weight for the most part, but it still felt good to be

around 280 for the first time in many years. But I'm here to tell you

that hearing the talking scales say I had made it back to ten pounds

less then I weighted on the night of my heart attack hit home and it hit

me like a load of bricks.

I knew if I didn't get control of my addiction to over eating and start

exercising on a daily bases, I wasn't going to be around long and no way

would I live through another attack. A friend told me one time that he

never could give up smoking until one day he had got to the point where

he was sick and tired of smoking and actually hated the habit. I didn't

understand what he was talking about back then, but I know for a fact

now. I finally got sick and tired of being over weight and more sick and

tired of allowing food to control my life. It has been an addiction of

mine all my life and for ever I had gave in to it and never thought for

one moment what it was doing to my health. I only lived for the next

meal and I lived to eat.

Well in January of this year my attitude changed and for the first time

in my 51 years of living fat, I have finally got my attitude about being

healthy in the right place. This thing with your attitude must be in the

right place or you can't win the battles you will have to face. I eat

right now 90 percent of the time. Use to before the attack it was I ate

wrong 90 percent of the time. Just getting my attitude turned around has

turned the eating habit around as well. I exercise every day for a

minium of 90 minutes, I lift my weights of 8 pound dumb bells every

other day for 30 minutes of a morning and 30 more in the evening. There

are of course those days I have to force my fat pig butt to do my bike

and my weights, but with your attitude where it needs to be it is much

easier to make your self do what needs done. i know what to eat now and

how much to eat.

Now I would be telling a big white lie if I told you every day was easy

and food will never control me ever again. I'm only human and I still do

eat some thing I know I shouldn't, but the big difference now, is I

don't continue in the bad habit and for get my new attitude. I don't

beat my self up for falling apart for one meal or a snack and throw it

all to the wind. I pick my self up and continue on down the trail as my

life is now laid out. Every meal and snack to me now is just one more

battle on my trail that I have to get by in order to get to the next

battle.

Before I got my attitude right I would stay on my eating right plan and

exercise for about 2 or 3 weeks and then slip up and say the hell with

it all and go right back to old habits. I would try the same old habits

again, hoping for different results. Well those days are gone and never

again will food control me. I'm in charge now and it is simply a process

with a whole lot of procedures to do in one day at a time. I can't think

about next week and plan what to eat. I worry about to day and I write

down every thing i eat each day so I can look at it and see where I am

and know when I slip up why it happened.

Lots of folks these days have addictions of plenty, but the worse

addiction of all is the one us over weight people have with food. We

allow food to control our life and as well our attitudes. I eat to live

now and I feel so much better. I sleep better, I have more energy, I

think better, I look forward now to exercise and it makes me feel grate

when I'm finished. My sugar is much better and my A1C has been coming

down. I am so blessed to even still be around to enjoy my friends and

family who I love so much. I may not have but 3 months left on this

earth, but one thing for sure is i will weigh less then when I go home

to be with my Jesus. It doesn't matter what ever kind of battles any of

us have in our life we have to live. We have to first deal with our

attitude and when we get it on line and up and running right, then all

the rest of your tools to fight the fight will fall in to place. It's

not going to ever be easy, but nothing worth having never is. But I can

beat any battle that gets in my path with a strong and possitive

attitude. Now, I believe I will go get me a cup of hot, black coffee

before I hit the hay. God bless and you hang in there and you will be

ok.

RE: Surely this isn't true?

Another thing to consider about caffeine if you are trying to lose

weight,

while it is free of calories, it is a stimulant, and it can stimulate

appetite in some people. Traditionally, black coffee has been allowed on

diet plans, but more and more I am seeing recommendations that you

eliminate

it.

SS

[Guest guest]

Vicky,

I have been diabetic for 63 years and still get cravings for things.

When I was younger, I used to just ignore the diabetes and eat " bad "

things indiscriminately. Over the years and as the complications have

increased, I just do not desire food like I used to. But for instance,

at Easter we had a couple pounds of jelly beans in the house (not eh

sugar free type), so one day I JUST had to have some! I ate 6 of them

slowly and took a unit of insulin and then did not eat any carbs at

dinner-just meat and vegetable. If my BG is low (around 80 or lower) at

bedtime, I treat myself to a cookie. Every once in a while (couple

times year) I get a craving for French crueler donut, so I have one.

But again, I can dose with insulin and then skip a carb food at the next

meal. Also, I try to remember how really bad I feel when my BG goes up

above 200. My bod is so used to a low BG that high BGs really make me

sick to stomach and sleepy. Don't like to feel that way, so I really

try to avoid getting my sugars up.

Re: Surely this isn't true?

Hi Mark, I hear what you are saying because it is hard for me too. I

have been diabetic for almost 3 years and though I lost a lot of weight,

gained it back. I'm doing well at the moment but it requires constant

vigilance and awareness of the next meal/snadk and where I shouldn't go,

because I end up turning into another person and craving and eating and

not caring. I have learned a lot from your story about your life and

what you have gone through with heart problems and diabetes. I don't

want to go there. When I start to lose that fear I must go on the

computer and find something that sets me straight. As far as coffee

goes, my experience is a bit different than what you said about your

friend. I drink 3 or 4 cups and have for a long time. I quit once

because everyone said it was supposed to be healthier. I quit for over a

month. Well, I missed it, te siccoal part of drinking it with someone,

the taste, how it woke me up. I didn't gain anything that I could

identify. I thought long and hard and not by impulse but I went back to

it, where I have no problem and I don't drink it at night, ever. So

these are my thoughts here, and though I'm basically controlling my

diabetes it gets vary hard sometimes. I wonder if there are others who

still have this problem.

Vicki

Our days are happier when we give people a bit of our heart rather than

a piece of our mind.

RE: Surely this isn't true?

Another thing to consider about caffeine if you are trying to lose

weight,

while it is free of calories, it is a stimulant, and it can stimulate

appetite in some people. Traditionally, black coffee has been allowed on

diet plans, but more and more I am seeing recommendations that you

eliminate

it.

SS

[Guest guest]

Thank you and Dave for the helpful advice, and Mark for the sharing of

the lessons you have learned the hard way, and overcome!

Vicki

Our days are happier when we give people a bit of our heart rather than a piece

of our mind.

RE: Surely this isn't true?

Another thing to consider about caffeine if you are trying to lose

weight,

while it is free of calories, it is a stimulant, and it can stimulate

appetite in some people. Traditionally, black coffee has been allowed on

diet plans, but more and more I am seeing recommendations that you

eliminate

it.

SS

[Guest guest]

Thank you very much my sweet lady. It really means a lot to me coming from

you. 63 years and still here and kicking.

RE: Surely this isn't true?

Another thing to consider about caffeine if you are trying to lose

weight,

while it is free of calories, it is a stimulant, and it can stimulate

appetite in some people. Traditionally, black coffee has been allowed on

diet plans, but more and more I am seeing recommendations that you

eliminate

it.

SS