Re: for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

[Guest guest]

and anyone else who juices successfully: Is there a secret to getting

your child to drink it? My son (3yo) seems to object to the juice texture, or

strength or something. He will happily drink the juice from kids juice boxes

even if put it in one of his sippy cups. However, he steadfastly refuses to

drink the juice that I make. At first, I tried to put all of the good stuff in

- carrot, spinach, etc. and he absolutely refused. Then I tried to give him a

blend of pear and apple juice just to get him drinking - still no dice. Does

anyone strain the juice. Do you water it down? Do you use specific recipes.

I'd really like to start from scratch with his diet by taking him down to known

safe foods and juice, but I can't even get him to drink my homemade juice. Any

suggestions?

Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > this means you haven't found a source of what is keeping him there.

what

> > > > > testing have you done? what changes have you made? what things are

you

> > > > > doing?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > * for those with recovered kids or nearly

> > > > > recovered...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

> > > > > how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real

changes?

> > > > > what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think

> > > > > affected real change?

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks,

> > > > > leah

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

and anyone else who juices successfully: Is there a secret to getting

your child to drink it? My son (3yo) seems to object to the juice texture, or

strength or something. He will happily drink the juice from kids juice boxes

even if put it in one of his sippy cups. However, he steadfastly refuses to

drink the juice that I make. At first, I tried to put all of the good stuff in

- carrot, spinach, etc. and he absolutely refused. Then I tried to give him a

blend of pear and apple juice just to get him drinking - still no dice. Does

anyone strain the juice. Do you water it down? Do you use specific recipes.

I'd really like to start from scratch with his diet by taking him down to known

safe foods and juice, but I can't even get him to drink my homemade juice. Any

suggestions?

Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > this means you haven't found a source of what is keeping him there.

what

> > > > > testing have you done? what changes have you made? what things are

you

> > > > > doing?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > * for those with recovered kids or nearly

> > > > > recovered...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

> > > > > how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real

changes?

> > > > > what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think

> > > > > affected real change?

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks,

> > > > > leah

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,You are so great,Thank you so much for the details. Later you can write a book and will be the unique in the market with 2 recoveries, kid and adult and this is going to surprise and help the whole world.

We love you.I am very   curious about Kim-chi and the coconut yogurt. We used the one from the store few times but is full of sugar. Could you please let me know how do you make those.Thanks so much,

Mimoza

 

Krassi,

I would love to share. I have to apologize in advance, this is a REALLY LONG POST.

Jimmy (at the time he had just turned 2) woke up crying uncontrollably for about 3 hours. Looking back, there were signs of distress, however, he had made most of his milestones by 18 mo. had about 20-30 words we understood clearly, and essentially was a happy go lucky kid. (Very pleasant, very sweet child)

Jimmy was a great eater (would eat anything) until about 13 months of age. Then he started to just drink milk only, and occasionally would eat pasta, toast, strawberries and bananas. ANd that was it. I thought this was odd, and consulted our ped about it, around the same time Jimmy came down with a really bad cold that ended up being croup, and that turned into an even worse sickness that lasted 4 months. I was told it was " just a cold " -- but a woman told me that unmistakably my son had the whooping cough. I took him to the Dr. and he tested positive, however, they said it could be because he was recently vaccinated. This made NO sense to me.

At the end of 4 months, a friend (she's 67) told me that when her kids got sick she gave them Cod Liver Oil. I did this, and Jimmy was better in two weeks. (I was relieved) However he developed this rash on his cheeks that never went away. (He still has it, although, it's only noticeable when it's extremely cold or hot) At this time of him getting better it was the end of April.

It was then I started to notice that Jimmy would stare (for a long time) at fans, he got really clumsy, and he would zone out for extremely long periods of time. I brought this up to my friends who had kids, and no one seemed really bothered by it. I also noticed while Jimmy was getting new words. They were only one syllable and if it was 2 syllables he just " dropped " the end of the word. So, " button " was " but. " He also started taking extraordinary long naps. He wouldn't sleep thru the night -- and he woke every 3 hours for 8 oz of milk. By the time he turned two, I had read about 20 parenting books (as I was told I wasn't doing a great job in this dept. by Dr.'s, my sibilings, etc.) and had tried to get him to sleep thru the night, gain some weight, (as he was in the 25th percentile for height, and about 5th for weight) -- and I was having no luck whatsoever.

After this uncontrollable tantrum he woke up and had (In Jan. after turning 2), 6 days later, he was non-verbal. He pointed and gestured, but refused to talk. He would bang his head (hard) on any and every wall in the house. I took him for all sorts of tests, and to 6 different doctors -- all of whom were uninterested, told me it was a parenting problem, or would say " wait and see " , or some really unhelpful thing. I explained the rash on his face, and I was told it's eczema, and that he would just have to live with it. I was told his hearing was fine that I needed to change my style of communication. I was told that his tantrums were a result of poor parenting and his non-verbal nature was because he was testing me.

A woman at the grocery store asked me if he was autistic, as her son was too. I was so angry (and in denial) that I was like " no, he's not autistic. he's fine. "

Then around June (he is about 2.5 now) during dinner he slid under the table, held his ears and cried uncontrollably for the next few hours. I was devastated, as it brought me back to when I was 16 watching my brother do the same thing, day in and day out, every night at dinner. My brother (Autistic) shared a lot of the same issues. Drooling uncontrollably (my son did this), his cheeks always red and flushed, staring at fans, staring thru people, a general disconnect from everyone.

I got a grip. And I went on line. I found a site that said if your child is having behavior problems, then remove dairy and wheat (gluten and casein). Jimmy at the time was sitting on the couch watching TV and I ripped the milk bottle out of his mouth, and threw it away. That was the last time he had milk or a bottle. (except for the one infraction!)

For the next 4 days he drank juice. Any juice. He was a mess. He threw tantrums I had never seen before. It was like he was the exorcist. I had found Stan's site, and he said it could go on this diet for 60 days. I thought, " well, crap, he only drinks milk, I guess juice for the next 58 days won't kill em. " It took 4 days. He woke up happy. No tantrums. NONE. He was easy. He was happy. He was himself as I remembered him. Didn't bang his head on anything. He still zoned, stared at fans, but it was less in duration. I felt that I had been given this great gift.

During this time, I had him evaluated for speech. It came back that he was " slightly mentally retarded. " We were devastated and in disbelief. I never for a minute believed this. Here was a kid that walked at 10 months, and made every milestone until he was about 18 months which was when we saw the biggest decline. During the evaluation he banged his head on the floor, was drooling, and wouldn't even engage the therapist. He was like a wild animal. I had to be in the room as Jimmy wouldn't leave me. Keep in mind, I stopped vaccinating at 9 months (because when he was supposed to be vaccinated again, he was sick and I refused the MMR.)

Within 6 days on the GF/CF diet, Jimmy said " Mommy " for the first time since he had lost his speech. I was in awe, I cried, I scared the crap out of him. This was a " wow " for me. A few days later, he said " Daddy. " My husband cried. (I can't handle seeing grown men cry, so I cried too, scaring the crap out of our son again)

At that point, I started giving him all sorts of supplements (from Stan's protocol) -- this was a disaster. By month #2, I decided to throw out everything, and add one thing per week. I started juicing for him daily. (all organic, all fruit and 1 veg.) I figured his diet was the most important thing, as it got rid of the head banging, the tantrums, and most of the zoning - and a great bonus, he slept thru the night, no more every 3 hour wakeups. Which was huge for me. So, I mainly focused on getting him to try to eat good food, and work on meal preparation.

Month #2, week 2, I put him on CLO. This helped his eye contact. It also turned his sandpaper skin to baby soft.

week #3, I put him on nordic berries. (he ate them, it was a good thing.)

Then it was OLE, (this was a challenge of trying to get him to take), so I skipped a week of new stuff, but I started using coconut oil to cook his food. And I used coconut milk to make him smoothies. I also made coconut yogurt (w/my new yogurt maker) w/strawberries.

I noticed he got really crazy (crying and some tantrums) some days. And then he got this weird rash like thing on the side of his neck. (I took a picture) It was huge and it stayed there for a while - it looked like it was eating his skin. So I took him to the Dr. and they wanted to prescribe anti-biotics, but I said I would bring him back in two days if it didn't go away. It was gone in 3 days. When it left, he started saying words. Almost all the words he lost, he had back within a couple of days. (that was a wow for me.)

I also added Chlorophyll, fiber (psyllium husks/apple pectin) to his drinks, and cilantro/parsley to his juicing drinks, along with flax oil. (to help w/heavy metals)

At that time, we went back to the speech therapist (this was mid August), and Jimmy was like this new little boy. He engaged the therapist, and when we went over the evaluation, they were dumbfounded at this child sitting before them (was not the same child) -- and they removed the " slightly mentally retarded " and " drooling excessively " -- as he no longer drooled, and they rewrote the paperwork for the insurance company.

At the same time all this was happening, I flew my brother down to TX (from NY) to live with me. I took him to a DAN Dr. and had a lot of tests done. His tests were lit up like Vegas, and I thought, " this is it. Two for the price of one. " Since Rob's diet was much more restrictive, I used his IGg tests to figure out what to feed the family. We came up with meat, veg, and some starches.

Jimmy went/goes to speech two times per week since the middle of Aug. 08. He also was in Kindermusik, and Little Gym. He was always off on his own, doing his own thing.

After this, I made my own Kim-Chi. This everyone seemed to like, and I started Jimmy on probiotics. S. Boulardii, and PB8. I am not sure if it was the Kim Chi or the probiotics, but he started talking more, and engaging more. He was -- at the time -- going once a week to a Mother's day out program -- but he still wouldn't engage other children. ALthough, he stopped hand flapping completely.

In Sept, I added zinc, calcium, iron, and Lauridicin. He continued to gain small advances, and overall, more vocabulary. He still only ate his 5 substitute things. Juice, Almond Milk, muffins, Rice Pasta, strawberries and bananas. We traveled and he got a milk infraction, and started hitting himself in the head and banging his head on his carseat. This lasted about 3 hours. He couldn't communicate and was very frustrated and cried a lot. I also started epsom salt baths w/drops of lavender.

In Oct, I added MB-12 (Revita-pops), Vira-stop, Culturelle (Lactobacillus GG), Colloidal Silver. He got two small rashes that came and went, and he continued to say more words, increase his vocabulary, and was more affectionate. When we sneezed, he said " you okay? " He started coloring and eye contact was really good now.

In Nov, I added digestive enzymes at every meal to increase bm's., .5 ounces of water for each pound of body weight, Celtic salt to his egg whites (which he really took to, and started eating them consistently), garlic (also in his egg whites) and OoO. OoO was really hard on his stomach, so I scaled back to two drops in 4 oz of juice. I noticed he could do puzzles, would sit and read with me (a lot of books), and while his vocabulary was increasing, his sentence structure still suffered. At this time he became really obsessed with trains, and since he was learning the names of the engines, if he accomplished something, I bought him a train. He learned all the letters of the alphabet, learned to count to 12, and learned 4 colors. He also learned to ride a bike (w/training wheels) I was very impressed.

In Dec, I changed up his multi-vitamin, zinc and added MB-12 sublinquals daily. While he made small advances, he seemed to really slow down in terms of speech, and he seemed more aware of others, but had a difficult time engaging. I was worried -- so I made an appointment to see my DAN and during that visit, I got a script for a bio-available multi, bio-available zinc, and Therabiotic for infants. I also got Jimmy tested for yeast (stool), IGg, Vitamin D serum levels, and zinc levels.

In Jan. I got the results of some tests and I had started the new multi-vitamin, zinc and I changed his probiotic to Threelac and then to Fivelac. We got a lot more speech as a result. Longer sentences, better sentence structure, and he was engaging with other children. I also added PCA-Rx and Ng-Rx and that too was more interesting questions, better and more thoughtful sentences, and just awesome in everything. His understanding of how this worked, routines, and he self potty trained (just pee so far)himself. Which was like " where the hell did that come from!! " His speech therapist commented how much he had improved in just a short week, and I was getting reports from Mother's Day out that Jimmy was trying to communicate with the other children and engaging them. (Finally!!) He also decided to eat veg. for the first time. I decided I would add a new veg every week to see if he could get a more varied diet.

In Feb. I added Oxypowder, and that was it. It was like everything was coming together at this point. His DAN has seen him the first week, and commented how affectionate and engaging he was. I noticed less cheek rash, and I also noticed that he was becoming a restless sleeper. He woke up w/nightmares around the end of Feb. I stopped giving him his multi, called his DAN, and we got a new one w/o B6. This let him have peaceful nights again. At this time, we also got script for Diflucan and Flagyl. I didn't get them filled, because I wasn't sure about side affects or other items in these drugs that I would have to detox. However, his stool tests came back w/high yeast still, clostridia, klebsiella, strep and low vitamin D. HOwever, he was making progress.

This month, I finally got the scripts filled, however, he still hasn't taken them yet. (They are in the frig.) I got a report from his speech therapist that Jimmy is only deficient in 3 areas of speech. Most likely, he will not be in speech much longer, as he is making very large leaps and strides. She stated that Jimmy is highly intelligent for his age, understands concepts that is way beyond his age, but still struggles with using some areas of speech that he should have mastered, but still struggles some with. Mother's day out has worked with Jimmy (as he is just so wonderfully pleasant and helpful!) and communication with the other kids, that they all engage and he has a couple of friends that he likes to hang with. The month isn't over yet, but today he self corrected his speech on the phone with my sister, and I thought that was a " WOW! " too. He even asked to talk to his cousin, Noah. And chatted with him for a few minutes.

Jimmy is up to 12 vegetables that he will eat. (a miracle in and of itself.) He even eats salad... He still can't sit at the dinner table for more than 5 minutes, but when he does, I congratulate him. He gets 3 square meals a day, and 2 snacks. I do not limit drinks. If he wants juice, he gets juice. I also removed strawberries and bananas too, to introduce other fruit. He doesn't miss them.

Today he was talking to " Dora " on the TV, and said " I'm Jimmy! " and it was nice to see him answering questions and engaging. He plays with his sister a lot now, and likes to beat her up a little, but she takes it in stride.

I found that adding one thing at a time for a week really helped me implement good habits. (drinking water, eating healthy meals, and snacks, making sure he gets two hours a day of good playtime/running time.)

I am currently thinking about using MMS for Jimmy's yeast issues instead of the prescription drugs. I have my brother on it, and the thing I like about it most is that there isn't anything for him to detox when he takes it. The MMS uses oxygen (like the oxypowder!) and changes to to salt when used up. Which the body understands and can remove.

Sorry for the extra long post, but I tried to get the highlights. I also might have gotten a few of the dates wrong, because I was flipping so much, but I think it's mostly here and in order.

I think that because I stopped vaccinating at 9 months, we are in the place we are in. I also believe that juicing has made a huge difference, as I can add things like ginger, other things he wouldn't necessarily eat, but gets the benefit of.

My stuff I have done with my brother is similiar, but I have done more in terms of supplements and prescriptions. He is also doing well, but is far from recovery -- however, making amazing progress.

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > this means you haven't found a source of what is keeping him there. what

> > > > testing have you done? what changes have you made? what things are you

> > > > doing?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > * for those with recovered kids or nearly

> > > > recovered...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

> > > > how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real changes?

> > > > what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think

> > > > affected real change?

> > > >

> > > > thanks,

> > > > leah

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,You are so great,Thank you so much for the details. Later you can write a book and will be the unique in the market with 2 recoveries, kid and adult and this is going to surprise and help the whole world.

We love you.I am very   curious about Kim-chi and the coconut yogurt. We used the one from the store few times but is full of sugar. Could you please let me know how do you make those.Thanks so much,

Mimoza

 

Krassi,

I would love to share. I have to apologize in advance, this is a REALLY LONG POST.

Jimmy (at the time he had just turned 2) woke up crying uncontrollably for about 3 hours. Looking back, there were signs of distress, however, he had made most of his milestones by 18 mo. had about 20-30 words we understood clearly, and essentially was a happy go lucky kid. (Very pleasant, very sweet child)

Jimmy was a great eater (would eat anything) until about 13 months of age. Then he started to just drink milk only, and occasionally would eat pasta, toast, strawberries and bananas. ANd that was it. I thought this was odd, and consulted our ped about it, around the same time Jimmy came down with a really bad cold that ended up being croup, and that turned into an even worse sickness that lasted 4 months. I was told it was " just a cold " -- but a woman told me that unmistakably my son had the whooping cough. I took him to the Dr. and he tested positive, however, they said it could be because he was recently vaccinated. This made NO sense to me.

At the end of 4 months, a friend (she's 67) told me that when her kids got sick she gave them Cod Liver Oil. I did this, and Jimmy was better in two weeks. (I was relieved) However he developed this rash on his cheeks that never went away. (He still has it, although, it's only noticeable when it's extremely cold or hot) At this time of him getting better it was the end of April.

It was then I started to notice that Jimmy would stare (for a long time) at fans, he got really clumsy, and he would zone out for extremely long periods of time. I brought this up to my friends who had kids, and no one seemed really bothered by it. I also noticed while Jimmy was getting new words. They were only one syllable and if it was 2 syllables he just " dropped " the end of the word. So, " button " was " but. " He also started taking extraordinary long naps. He wouldn't sleep thru the night -- and he woke every 3 hours for 8 oz of milk. By the time he turned two, I had read about 20 parenting books (as I was told I wasn't doing a great job in this dept. by Dr.'s, my sibilings, etc.) and had tried to get him to sleep thru the night, gain some weight, (as he was in the 25th percentile for height, and about 5th for weight) -- and I was having no luck whatsoever.

After this uncontrollable tantrum he woke up and had (In Jan. after turning 2), 6 days later, he was non-verbal. He pointed and gestured, but refused to talk. He would bang his head (hard) on any and every wall in the house. I took him for all sorts of tests, and to 6 different doctors -- all of whom were uninterested, told me it was a parenting problem, or would say " wait and see " , or some really unhelpful thing. I explained the rash on his face, and I was told it's eczema, and that he would just have to live with it. I was told his hearing was fine that I needed to change my style of communication. I was told that his tantrums were a result of poor parenting and his non-verbal nature was because he was testing me.

A woman at the grocery store asked me if he was autistic, as her son was too. I was so angry (and in denial) that I was like " no, he's not autistic. he's fine. "

Then around June (he is about 2.5 now) during dinner he slid under the table, held his ears and cried uncontrollably for the next few hours. I was devastated, as it brought me back to when I was 16 watching my brother do the same thing, day in and day out, every night at dinner. My brother (Autistic) shared a lot of the same issues. Drooling uncontrollably (my son did this), his cheeks always red and flushed, staring at fans, staring thru people, a general disconnect from everyone.

I got a grip. And I went on line. I found a site that said if your child is having behavior problems, then remove dairy and wheat (gluten and casein). Jimmy at the time was sitting on the couch watching TV and I ripped the milk bottle out of his mouth, and threw it away. That was the last time he had milk or a bottle. (except for the one infraction!)

For the next 4 days he drank juice. Any juice. He was a mess. He threw tantrums I had never seen before. It was like he was the exorcist. I had found Stan's site, and he said it could go on this diet for 60 days. I thought, " well, crap, he only drinks milk, I guess juice for the next 58 days won't kill em. " It took 4 days. He woke up happy. No tantrums. NONE. He was easy. He was happy. He was himself as I remembered him. Didn't bang his head on anything. He still zoned, stared at fans, but it was less in duration. I felt that I had been given this great gift.

During this time, I had him evaluated for speech. It came back that he was " slightly mentally retarded. " We were devastated and in disbelief. I never for a minute believed this. Here was a kid that walked at 10 months, and made every milestone until he was about 18 months which was when we saw the biggest decline. During the evaluation he banged his head on the floor, was drooling, and wouldn't even engage the therapist. He was like a wild animal. I had to be in the room as Jimmy wouldn't leave me. Keep in mind, I stopped vaccinating at 9 months (because when he was supposed to be vaccinated again, he was sick and I refused the MMR.)

Within 6 days on the GF/CF diet, Jimmy said " Mommy " for the first time since he had lost his speech. I was in awe, I cried, I scared the crap out of him. This was a " wow " for me. A few days later, he said " Daddy. " My husband cried. (I can't handle seeing grown men cry, so I cried too, scaring the crap out of our son again)

At that point, I started giving him all sorts of supplements (from Stan's protocol) -- this was a disaster. By month #2, I decided to throw out everything, and add one thing per week. I started juicing for him daily. (all organic, all fruit and 1 veg.) I figured his diet was the most important thing, as it got rid of the head banging, the tantrums, and most of the zoning - and a great bonus, he slept thru the night, no more every 3 hour wakeups. Which was huge for me. So, I mainly focused on getting him to try to eat good food, and work on meal preparation.

Month #2, week 2, I put him on CLO. This helped his eye contact. It also turned his sandpaper skin to baby soft.

week #3, I put him on nordic berries. (he ate them, it was a good thing.)

Then it was OLE, (this was a challenge of trying to get him to take), so I skipped a week of new stuff, but I started using coconut oil to cook his food. And I used coconut milk to make him smoothies. I also made coconut yogurt (w/my new yogurt maker) w/strawberries.

I noticed he got really crazy (crying and some tantrums) some days. And then he got this weird rash like thing on the side of his neck. (I took a picture) It was huge and it stayed there for a while - it looked like it was eating his skin. So I took him to the Dr. and they wanted to prescribe anti-biotics, but I said I would bring him back in two days if it didn't go away. It was gone in 3 days. When it left, he started saying words. Almost all the words he lost, he had back within a couple of days. (that was a wow for me.)

I also added Chlorophyll, fiber (psyllium husks/apple pectin) to his drinks, and cilantro/parsley to his juicing drinks, along with flax oil. (to help w/heavy metals)

At that time, we went back to the speech therapist (this was mid August), and Jimmy was like this new little boy. He engaged the therapist, and when we went over the evaluation, they were dumbfounded at this child sitting before them (was not the same child) -- and they removed the " slightly mentally retarded " and " drooling excessively " -- as he no longer drooled, and they rewrote the paperwork for the insurance company.

At the same time all this was happening, I flew my brother down to TX (from NY) to live with me. I took him to a DAN Dr. and had a lot of tests done. His tests were lit up like Vegas, and I thought, " this is it. Two for the price of one. " Since Rob's diet was much more restrictive, I used his IGg tests to figure out what to feed the family. We came up with meat, veg, and some starches.

Jimmy went/goes to speech two times per week since the middle of Aug. 08. He also was in Kindermusik, and Little Gym. He was always off on his own, doing his own thing.

After this, I made my own Kim-Chi. This everyone seemed to like, and I started Jimmy on probiotics. S. Boulardii, and PB8. I am not sure if it was the Kim Chi or the probiotics, but he started talking more, and engaging more. He was -- at the time -- going once a week to a Mother's day out program -- but he still wouldn't engage other children. ALthough, he stopped hand flapping completely.

In Sept, I added zinc, calcium, iron, and Lauridicin. He continued to gain small advances, and overall, more vocabulary. He still only ate his 5 substitute things. Juice, Almond Milk, muffins, Rice Pasta, strawberries and bananas. We traveled and he got a milk infraction, and started hitting himself in the head and banging his head on his carseat. This lasted about 3 hours. He couldn't communicate and was very frustrated and cried a lot. I also started epsom salt baths w/drops of lavender.

In Oct, I added MB-12 (Revita-pops), Vira-stop, Culturelle (Lactobacillus GG), Colloidal Silver. He got two small rashes that came and went, and he continued to say more words, increase his vocabulary, and was more affectionate. When we sneezed, he said " you okay? " He started coloring and eye contact was really good now.

In Nov, I added digestive enzymes at every meal to increase bm's., .5 ounces of water for each pound of body weight, Celtic salt to his egg whites (which he really took to, and started eating them consistently), garlic (also in his egg whites) and OoO. OoO was really hard on his stomach, so I scaled back to two drops in 4 oz of juice. I noticed he could do puzzles, would sit and read with me (a lot of books), and while his vocabulary was increasing, his sentence structure still suffered. At this time he became really obsessed with trains, and since he was learning the names of the engines, if he accomplished something, I bought him a train. He learned all the letters of the alphabet, learned to count to 12, and learned 4 colors. He also learned to ride a bike (w/training wheels) I was very impressed.

In Dec, I changed up his multi-vitamin, zinc and added MB-12 sublinquals daily. While he made small advances, he seemed to really slow down in terms of speech, and he seemed more aware of others, but had a difficult time engaging. I was worried -- so I made an appointment to see my DAN and during that visit, I got a script for a bio-available multi, bio-available zinc, and Therabiotic for infants. I also got Jimmy tested for yeast (stool), IGg, Vitamin D serum levels, and zinc levels.

In Jan. I got the results of some tests and I had started the new multi-vitamin, zinc and I changed his probiotic to Threelac and then to Fivelac. We got a lot more speech as a result. Longer sentences, better sentence structure, and he was engaging with other children. I also added PCA-Rx and Ng-Rx and that too was more interesting questions, better and more thoughtful sentences, and just awesome in everything. His understanding of how this worked, routines, and he self potty trained (just pee so far)himself. Which was like " where the hell did that come from!! " His speech therapist commented how much he had improved in just a short week, and I was getting reports from Mother's Day out that Jimmy was trying to communicate with the other children and engaging them. (Finally!!) He also decided to eat veg. for the first time. I decided I would add a new veg every week to see if he could get a more varied diet.

In Feb. I added Oxypowder, and that was it. It was like everything was coming together at this point. His DAN has seen him the first week, and commented how affectionate and engaging he was. I noticed less cheek rash, and I also noticed that he was becoming a restless sleeper. He woke up w/nightmares around the end of Feb. I stopped giving him his multi, called his DAN, and we got a new one w/o B6. This let him have peaceful nights again. At this time, we also got script for Diflucan and Flagyl. I didn't get them filled, because I wasn't sure about side affects or other items in these drugs that I would have to detox. However, his stool tests came back w/high yeast still, clostridia, klebsiella, strep and low vitamin D. HOwever, he was making progress.

This month, I finally got the scripts filled, however, he still hasn't taken them yet. (They are in the frig.) I got a report from his speech therapist that Jimmy is only deficient in 3 areas of speech. Most likely, he will not be in speech much longer, as he is making very large leaps and strides. She stated that Jimmy is highly intelligent for his age, understands concepts that is way beyond his age, but still struggles with using some areas of speech that he should have mastered, but still struggles some with. Mother's day out has worked with Jimmy (as he is just so wonderfully pleasant and helpful!) and communication with the other kids, that they all engage and he has a couple of friends that he likes to hang with. The month isn't over yet, but today he self corrected his speech on the phone with my sister, and I thought that was a " WOW! " too. He even asked to talk to his cousin, Noah. And chatted with him for a few minutes.

Jimmy is up to 12 vegetables that he will eat. (a miracle in and of itself.) He even eats salad... He still can't sit at the dinner table for more than 5 minutes, but when he does, I congratulate him. He gets 3 square meals a day, and 2 snacks. I do not limit drinks. If he wants juice, he gets juice. I also removed strawberries and bananas too, to introduce other fruit. He doesn't miss them.

Today he was talking to " Dora " on the TV, and said " I'm Jimmy! " and it was nice to see him answering questions and engaging. He plays with his sister a lot now, and likes to beat her up a little, but she takes it in stride.

I found that adding one thing at a time for a week really helped me implement good habits. (drinking water, eating healthy meals, and snacks, making sure he gets two hours a day of good playtime/running time.)

I am currently thinking about using MMS for Jimmy's yeast issues instead of the prescription drugs. I have my brother on it, and the thing I like about it most is that there isn't anything for him to detox when he takes it. The MMS uses oxygen (like the oxypowder!) and changes to to salt when used up. Which the body understands and can remove.

Sorry for the extra long post, but I tried to get the highlights. I also might have gotten a few of the dates wrong, because I was flipping so much, but I think it's mostly here and in order.

I think that because I stopped vaccinating at 9 months, we are in the place we are in. I also believe that juicing has made a huge difference, as I can add things like ginger, other things he wouldn't necessarily eat, but gets the benefit of.

My stuff I have done with my brother is similiar, but I have done more in terms of supplements and prescriptions. He is also doing well, but is far from recovery -- however, making amazing progress.

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Yes, I tried putting it in his sippy cup. I also tried cutting open a juice box

and replacing it with organic homemade juice. I tried syringing it into his

mouth in the hopes that if I got him to tolerate a syringe, I could move up to a

teaspoon in a medicine cup, then a small paper cup. . . no dice. He wouldn't

drink it any way that I offered it. Does anyone have to strain it and water it

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Yes, I tried putting it in his sippy cup. I also tried cutting open a juice box

and replacing it with organic homemade juice. I tried syringing it into his

mouth in the hopes that if I got him to tolerate a syringe, I could move up to a

teaspoon in a medicine cup, then a small paper cup. . . no dice. He wouldn't

drink it any way that I offered it. Does anyone have to strain it and water it

down?

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> > > > > >

> > > > > > this means you haven't found a source of what is keeping him

there. what

> > > > > > testing have you done? what changes have you made? what things are

you

> > > > > > doing?

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> > > > > > recovered...

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> > > > > > been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

> > > > > > how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real

changes?

> > > > > > what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you

think

> > > > > > affected real change?

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Yes, I tried putting it in his sippy cup. I also tried cutting open a juice box

and replacing it with organic homemade juice. I tried syringing it into his

mouth in the hopes that if I got him to tolerate a syringe, I could move up to a

teaspoon in a medicine cup, then a small paper cup. . . no dice. He wouldn't

drink it any way that I offered it. Does anyone have to strain it and water it

down?

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > this means you haven't found a source of what is keeping him

there. what

> > > > > > testing have you done? what changes have you made? what things are

you

> > > > > > doing?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > * for those with recovered kids or nearly

> > > > > > recovered...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

> > > > > > how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real

changes?

> > > > > > what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you

think

> > > > > > affected real change?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > > leah

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My son REJECTED my juice at first. I was so devastated, as I worked so hard,

and put so much money into it! I understand.

YES, actually, this is what I did. I made juice (like normal) -- and I put in a

tablespoon into his " reg " juice. (I, Maddie, Rob, and my husband Jim, drank the

rest as I can't stand wasting anything).

I upped this " tablespoon " to 4 oz. over time. A very long time. When he

" balked " at it. I added more sweet fruits like pineapple, orange, kiwi, and

grapes. Grapes are great for this.

He still drinks his " orange " juice (or hulk juice) 4 oz. juicer juice to 4oz.

orange juice or apple juice. I use this apple juice that is just apples. (I

will find the name brand for you - but it's in a glass bottle, and lasts a

while, since I am only using 4 oz.)

Let me know if you ideas...

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> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > this means you haven't found a source of what is keeping him there.

what

> > > > > > testing have you done? what changes have you made? what things are

you

> > > > > > doing?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > * for those with recovered kids or nearly

> > > > > > recovered...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

> > > > > > how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real

changes?

> > > > > > what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you

think

> > > > > > affected real change?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > > leah

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My son REJECTED my juice at first. I was so devastated, as I worked so hard,

and put so much money into it! I understand.

YES, actually, this is what I did. I made juice (like normal) -- and I put in a

tablespoon into his " reg " juice. (I, Maddie, Rob, and my husband Jim, drank the

rest as I can't stand wasting anything).

I upped this " tablespoon " to 4 oz. over time. A very long time. When he

" balked " at it. I added more sweet fruits like pineapple, orange, kiwi, and

grapes. Grapes are great for this.

He still drinks his " orange " juice (or hulk juice) 4 oz. juicer juice to 4oz.

orange juice or apple juice. I use this apple juice that is just apples. (I

will find the name brand for you - but it's in a glass bottle, and lasts a

while, since I am only using 4 oz.)

Let me know if you ideas...

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > this means you haven't found a source of what is keeping him there.

what

> > > > > > testing have you done? what changes have you made? what things are

you

> > > > > > doing?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > * for those with recovered kids or nearly

> > > > > > recovered...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

> > > > > > how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real

changes?

> > > > > > what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you

think

> > > > > > affected real change?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > > leah

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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Hi ,I couldn't agree with you more. I've had some amazing emails with parents from this list I am just so amazed at the wonderful and amazing people I am meeting and believe they deserve 110% support.We have been into bio med for nearly a year now and I wrote an article for a wonderful UK site who help many people. It's my take on starting "our" journey down the bio med path.http://www.treatingautism.co.uk/parents-stories/Look for the article that says "Fighting for Karl". That's my boy! I am an Aussie living in Sweden. I'm just not willing to accept what the Swedish doctors have to say about Autism and I'm fighting everyday for my son.Take

Care, Subject: Re: for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 4:54 AM

Hi ,

You know, everyone of us do it on this forum. I find all of you amazing. But what is even more amazing is the "will" found here. You don't find this level of determination - really anywhere - that comes with this disorder. I feel like I am among people who "get it." and that to me, is worth it's weight in gold.

I also found that people here are way more open minded to trying new things, looking at the "possibilities" and okay with questioning the current establishment. It's these "belief systems" that get in the way of real progress. I find that I can be myself, without offending anyone (or if I do, I can easily bounce back!) -- and that is a difficult thing to do "out in the real world."

So while I have had my "proud" moments, I realize I didn't do it alone, I was able to do what I have done, simply because I had everyone here (and supportive family and friends) to help me figure out the best way to go about it. Sometimes I feel very alone, and I am reminded of what my Mom told me when I was young..."you are only alone, if you think you are." -- and I am not.

The thing I was not prepared for, was the ability to look back at where I came from 8 short months ago, and realize that I was meant to be here - as my life prepared me for it, I am glad to be here, and I chose to be here because I am better for it.

I always said "I wouldn't wish this on anyone." -- and it's "this" is where I grew the most again, and it was "this" that I know has given me the gift of knowing for the first time -- how truly blessed I am to be a wife, a Mom, a sister, a friend, and a part of this process. I couldn't have better people to go through "this" with, than all of you. I have gained this new and eye opening education into the world of nutrition, disease, disorder, sickness, and Motherhood. I am sure my brain mass has increased by at least 3%.

laura

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> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > this means you haven't found a source of what is keeping him there. what

> > > > > > testing have you done? what changes have you made? what things are you

> > > > > > doing?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > * for those with recovered kids or nearly

> > > > > > recovered...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

> > > > > > how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real changes?

> > > > > > what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think

> > > > > > affected real change?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > > leah

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Hi ,I couldn't agree with you more. I've had some amazing emails with parents from this list I am just so amazed at the wonderful and amazing people I am meeting and believe they deserve 110% support.We have been into bio med for nearly a year now and I wrote an article for a wonderful UK site who help many people. It's my take on starting "our" journey down the bio med path.http://www.treatingautism.co.uk/parents-stories/Look for the article that says "Fighting for Karl". That's my boy! I am an Aussie living in Sweden. I'm just not willing to accept what the Swedish doctors have to say about Autism and I'm fighting everyday for my son.Take

Care, Subject: Re: for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 4:54 AM

Hi ,

You know, everyone of us do it on this forum. I find all of you amazing. But what is even more amazing is the "will" found here. You don't find this level of determination - really anywhere - that comes with this disorder. I feel like I am among people who "get it." and that to me, is worth it's weight in gold.

I also found that people here are way more open minded to trying new things, looking at the "possibilities" and okay with questioning the current establishment. It's these "belief systems" that get in the way of real progress. I find that I can be myself, without offending anyone (or if I do, I can easily bounce back!) -- and that is a difficult thing to do "out in the real world."

So while I have had my "proud" moments, I realize I didn't do it alone, I was able to do what I have done, simply because I had everyone here (and supportive family and friends) to help me figure out the best way to go about it. Sometimes I feel very alone, and I am reminded of what my Mom told me when I was young..."you are only alone, if you think you are." -- and I am not.

The thing I was not prepared for, was the ability to look back at where I came from 8 short months ago, and realize that I was meant to be here - as my life prepared me for it, I am glad to be here, and I chose to be here because I am better for it.

I always said "I wouldn't wish this on anyone." -- and it's "this" is where I grew the most again, and it was "this" that I know has given me the gift of knowing for the first time -- how truly blessed I am to be a wife, a Mom, a sister, a friend, and a part of this process. I couldn't have better people to go through "this" with, than all of you. I have gained this new and eye opening education into the world of nutrition, disease, disorder, sickness, and Motherhood. I am sure my brain mass has increased by at least 3%.

laura

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > this means you haven't found a source of what is keeping him there. what

> > > > > > testing have you done? what changes have you made? what things are you

> > > > > > doing?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > * for those with recovered kids or nearly

> > > > > > recovered...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

> > > > > > how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real changes?

> > > > > > what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think

> > > > > > affected real change?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > > leah

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> > > > > >

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Hi ,I couldn't agree with you more. I've had some amazing emails with parents from this list I am just so amazed at the wonderful and amazing people I am meeting and believe they deserve 110% support.We have been into bio med for nearly a year now and I wrote an article for a wonderful UK site who help many people. It's my take on starting "our" journey down the bio med path.http://www.treatingautism.co.uk/parents-stories/Look for the article that says "Fighting for Karl". That's my boy! I am an Aussie living in Sweden. I'm just not willing to accept what the Swedish doctors have to say about Autism and I'm fighting everyday for my son.Take

Care, Subject: Re: for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 4:54 AM

Hi ,

You know, everyone of us do it on this forum. I find all of you amazing. But what is even more amazing is the "will" found here. You don't find this level of determination - really anywhere - that comes with this disorder. I feel like I am among people who "get it." and that to me, is worth it's weight in gold.

I also found that people here are way more open minded to trying new things, looking at the "possibilities" and okay with questioning the current establishment. It's these "belief systems" that get in the way of real progress. I find that I can be myself, without offending anyone (or if I do, I can easily bounce back!) -- and that is a difficult thing to do "out in the real world."

So while I have had my "proud" moments, I realize I didn't do it alone, I was able to do what I have done, simply because I had everyone here (and supportive family and friends) to help me figure out the best way to go about it. Sometimes I feel very alone, and I am reminded of what my Mom told me when I was young..."you are only alone, if you think you are." -- and I am not.

The thing I was not prepared for, was the ability to look back at where I came from 8 short months ago, and realize that I was meant to be here - as my life prepared me for it, I am glad to be here, and I chose to be here because I am better for it.

I always said "I wouldn't wish this on anyone." -- and it's "this" is where I grew the most again, and it was "this" that I know has given me the gift of knowing for the first time -- how truly blessed I am to be a wife, a Mom, a sister, a friend, and a part of this process. I couldn't have better people to go through "this" with, than all of you. I have gained this new and eye opening education into the world of nutrition, disease, disorder, sickness, and Motherhood. I am sure my brain mass has increased by at least 3%.

laura

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> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > this means you haven't found a source of what is keeping him there. what

> > > > > > testing have you done? what changes have you made? what things are you

> > > > > > doing?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > * for those with recovered kids or nearly

> > > > > > recovered...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

> > > > > > how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real changes?

> > > > > > what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think

> > > > > > affected real change?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > > leah

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one more thing...

Less is more sometimes. When I juice, I make about 16 oz of juice for the

family.

I use 1/2 pineapple, (great for digestion -- especially for type A bloods..) 1/2

lemon (peeled but with the white stuff -- just yellow peel gone), 2 oranges

(same like lemon), 1/2 inch peeled ginger. (this is very high in vitamin C, and

will induce bowel movements!!)

Start w/fruit, and SLOWLY add vegetables. - Like one mini carrot at a time. It

allows them to get used to it. With Kale, cilantro, parsley, spinach -- apples

(if you can do apples, I know some people can't) -- go great with these green

veg.

I like apples (granny smith are my fav) -- I will also add you don't need to

make a 1/2 pound of spinach, as a little goes a long way. so 1/2 cup of spinach

(kale, or parsley, or cilantro) w/two granny smith apples.

At the beginning, because I was having a lot of fun with it, I juiced a couple

times a day (it got expensive quick) -- but it was fun.

laura

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> > > > > > this means you haven't found a source of what is keeping him there.

what

> > > > > > testing have you done? what changes have you made? what things are

you

> > > > > > doing?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > * for those with recovered kids or nearly

> > > > > > recovered...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

> > > > > > how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real

changes?

> > > > > > what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you

think

> > > > > > affected real change?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > > leah

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Mimoza! You are just a doll...

I would LOVE to say I've got 2 recoveries under my belt. A book? I think there

are far better people who could do a much better job at writing than I.

I would LOVe to tell you how I make Kim-Chi and my yogurt. First, I got my

Kim-Chi recipe from a book called " Wild Fermentation " by Sandor Ellix Katz. The

guy who wrote the book is really a big hippy..so if you're not a fan of hippies,

you probably won't like his writing style, but I find this " crackpot " totally

interesting. The recipe is on page 47. I know the library carries it, but I

purchased it, as I thought it contained good information.

I also purchased a " fermentation crock. " -- however, if you aren't sure you are

going to do this a lot, you can do it without (and no, you don't need to bury it

in the ground for good results) - My sister uses canning jars and gets good

results. (So don't go crazy - I do, and it drives my husband crazy.)

Yogurt. I used the recipe in the box (that the yogurt maker came in)

--HOWEVER-- When I made the coconut milk yogurt, I used the blender and blended

it for about 3 minutes, (because the coconut fat/oil, rises to the top and makes

it hard on top -- and that was unpleasant. and then I stirred in some PB8 along

with the yogurt culture starter. I am also thinking about getting some Kefir

grains. (I haven't yet, as my kitchen is starting to look like a serious

science experiment!)

laura

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> > think

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Mimoza! You are just a doll...

I would LOVE to say I've got 2 recoveries under my belt. A book? I think there

are far better people who could do a much better job at writing than I.

I would LOVe to tell you how I make Kim-Chi and my yogurt. First, I got my

Kim-Chi recipe from a book called " Wild Fermentation " by Sandor Ellix Katz. The

guy who wrote the book is really a big hippy..so if you're not a fan of hippies,

you probably won't like his writing style, but I find this " crackpot " totally

interesting. The recipe is on page 47. I know the library carries it, but I

purchased it, as I thought it contained good information.

I also purchased a " fermentation crock. " -- however, if you aren't sure you are

going to do this a lot, you can do it without (and no, you don't need to bury it

in the ground for good results) - My sister uses canning jars and gets good

results. (So don't go crazy - I do, and it drives my husband crazy.)

Yogurt. I used the recipe in the box (that the yogurt maker came in)

--HOWEVER-- When I made the coconut milk yogurt, I used the blender and blended

it for about 3 minutes, (because the coconut fat/oil, rises to the top and makes

it hard on top -- and that was unpleasant. and then I stirred in some PB8 along

with the yogurt culture starter. I am also thinking about getting some Kefir

grains. (I haven't yet, as my kitchen is starting to look like a serious

science experiment!)

laura

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> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > this means you haven't found a source of what is keeping him there.

> > what

> > > > > > testing have you done? what changes have you made? what things are

> > you

> > > > > > doing?

> > > > > >

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> > > > > > * for those with recovered kids or nearly

> > > > > > recovered...

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> > > > > > been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

> > > > > > how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real

> > changes?

> > > > > > what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you

> > think

> > > > > > affected real change?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks,

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Mimoza! You are just a doll...

I would LOVE to say I've got 2 recoveries under my belt. A book? I think there

are far better people who could do a much better job at writing than I.

I would LOVe to tell you how I make Kim-Chi and my yogurt. First, I got my

Kim-Chi recipe from a book called " Wild Fermentation " by Sandor Ellix Katz. The

guy who wrote the book is really a big hippy..so if you're not a fan of hippies,

you probably won't like his writing style, but I find this " crackpot " totally

interesting. The recipe is on page 47. I know the library carries it, but I

purchased it, as I thought it contained good information.

I also purchased a " fermentation crock. " -- however, if you aren't sure you are

going to do this a lot, you can do it without (and no, you don't need to bury it

in the ground for good results) - My sister uses canning jars and gets good

results. (So don't go crazy - I do, and it drives my husband crazy.)

Yogurt. I used the recipe in the box (that the yogurt maker came in)

--HOWEVER-- When I made the coconut milk yogurt, I used the blender and blended

it for about 3 minutes, (because the coconut fat/oil, rises to the top and makes

it hard on top -- and that was unpleasant. and then I stirred in some PB8 along

with the yogurt culture starter. I am also thinking about getting some Kefir

grains. (I haven't yet, as my kitchen is starting to look like a serious

science experiment!)

laura

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> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > this means you haven't found a source of what is keeping him there.

> > what

> > > > > > testing have you done? what changes have you made? what things are

> > you

> > > > > > doing?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > * for those with recovered kids or nearly

> > > > > > recovered...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

> > > > > > how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real

> > changes?

> > > > > > what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you

> > think

> > > > > > affected real change?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > > leah

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Hi ,I have just this minute ordered the book, tell me, was it difficult for you to get Jimmy to eat the Kim-Chi? Also what make of yoghurt maker have you got and where did you get the coconut milk yoghurt recipe from - i am very interested in making some for Harry.Thanks x To: mb12 valtrex From: laurargoddin@...Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 05:30:32 +0000Subject: Re: for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

Mimoza! You are just a doll...

I would LOVE to say I've got 2 recoveries under my belt. A book? I think there are far better people who could do a much better job at writing than I.

I would LOVe to tell you how I make Kim-Chi and my yogurt. First, I got my Kim-Chi recipe from a book called "Wild Fermentation" by Sandor Ellix Katz. The guy who wrote the book is really a big hippy..so if you're not a fan of hippies, you probably won't like his writing style, but I find this "crackpot" totally interesting. The recipe is on page 47. I know the library carries it, but I purchased it, as I thought it contained good information.

I also purchased a "fermentation crock." -- however, if you aren't sure you are going to do this a lot, you can do it without (and no, you don't need to bury it in the ground for good results) - My sister uses canning jars and gets good results. (So don't go crazy - I do, and it drives my husband crazy.)

Yogurt. I used the recipe in the box (that the yogurt maker came in) --HOWEVER-- When I made the coconut milk yogurt, I used the blender and blended it for about 3 minutes, (because the coconut fat/oil, rises to the top and makes it hard on top -- and that was unpleasant. and then I stirred in some PB8 along with the yogurt culture starter. I am also thinking about getting some Kefir grains. (I haven't yet, as my kitchen is starting to look like a serious science experiment!)

laura

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> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > this means you haven't found a source of what is keeping him there.

> > what

> > > > > > testing have you done? what changes have you made? what things are

> > you

> > > > > > doing?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > * for those with recovered kids or nearly

> > > > > > recovered...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

> > > > > > how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real

> > changes?

> > > > > > what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you

> > think

> > > > > > affected real change?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > > leah

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Hi ,I have just this minute ordered the book, tell me, was it difficult for you to get Jimmy to eat the Kim-Chi? Also what make of yoghurt maker have you got and where did you get the coconut milk yoghurt recipe from - i am very interested in making some for Harry.Thanks x To: mb12 valtrex From: laurargoddin@...Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 05:30:32 +0000Subject: Re: for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

Mimoza! You are just a doll...

I would LOVE to say I've got 2 recoveries under my belt. A book? I think there are far better people who could do a much better job at writing than I.

I would LOVe to tell you how I make Kim-Chi and my yogurt. First, I got my Kim-Chi recipe from a book called "Wild Fermentation" by Sandor Ellix Katz. The guy who wrote the book is really a big hippy..so if you're not a fan of hippies, you probably won't like his writing style, but I find this "crackpot" totally interesting. The recipe is on page 47. I know the library carries it, but I purchased it, as I thought it contained good information.

I also purchased a "fermentation crock." -- however, if you aren't sure you are going to do this a lot, you can do it without (and no, you don't need to bury it in the ground for good results) - My sister uses canning jars and gets good results. (So don't go crazy - I do, and it drives my husband crazy.)

Yogurt. I used the recipe in the box (that the yogurt maker came in) --HOWEVER-- When I made the coconut milk yogurt, I used the blender and blended it for about 3 minutes, (because the coconut fat/oil, rises to the top and makes it hard on top -- and that was unpleasant. and then I stirred in some PB8 along with the yogurt culture starter. I am also thinking about getting some Kefir grains. (I haven't yet, as my kitchen is starting to look like a serious science experiment!)

laura

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > this means you haven't found a source of what is keeping him there.

> > what

> > > > > > testing have you done? what changes have you made? what things are

> > you

> > > > > > doing?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > * for those with recovered kids or nearly

> > > > > > recovered...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

> > > > > > how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real

> > changes?

> > > > > > what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you

> > think

> > > > > > affected real change?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > > leah

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Hi ,I have just this minute ordered the book, tell me, was it difficult for you to get Jimmy to eat the Kim-Chi? Also what make of yoghurt maker have you got and where did you get the coconut milk yoghurt recipe from - i am very interested in making some for Harry.Thanks x To: mb12 valtrex From: laurargoddin@...Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 05:30:32 +0000Subject: Re: for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

Mimoza! You are just a doll...

I would LOVE to say I've got 2 recoveries under my belt. A book? I think there are far better people who could do a much better job at writing than I.

I would LOVe to tell you how I make Kim-Chi and my yogurt. First, I got my Kim-Chi recipe from a book called "Wild Fermentation" by Sandor Ellix Katz. The guy who wrote the book is really a big hippy..so if you're not a fan of hippies, you probably won't like his writing style, but I find this "crackpot" totally interesting. The recipe is on page 47. I know the library carries it, but I purchased it, as I thought it contained good information.

I also purchased a "fermentation crock." -- however, if you aren't sure you are going to do this a lot, you can do it without (and no, you don't need to bury it in the ground for good results) - My sister uses canning jars and gets good results. (So don't go crazy - I do, and it drives my husband crazy.)

Yogurt. I used the recipe in the box (that the yogurt maker came in) --HOWEVER-- When I made the coconut milk yogurt, I used the blender and blended it for about 3 minutes, (because the coconut fat/oil, rises to the top and makes it hard on top -- and that was unpleasant. and then I stirred in some PB8 along with the yogurt culture starter. I am also thinking about getting some Kefir grains. (I haven't yet, as my kitchen is starting to look like a serious science experiment!)

laura

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > this means you haven't found a source of what is keeping him there.

> > what

> > > > > > testing have you done? what changes have you made? what things are

> > you

> > > > > > doing?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > * for those with recovered kids or nearly

> > > > > > recovered...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

> > > > > > how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real

> > changes?

> > > > > > what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you

> > think

> > > > > > affected real change?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > > leah

> > > > > >

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,

What a fantastic " son-rise " type attitude you have. I felt that way too when my

son was 2-9 years old and we did the son-rise program. Then we had some rough

years and I'm trying to make a comeback now. Can you adopt me, put me on a

special diet, and be my mom/sister too? Just kidding!

Jen

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Sure Jen, I'll adopt you...

Funny you say that - My husband says I should have been the director of an

orphanage, as I find lost souls and give them a home. I did this as a child

(rescued every stray cat, and baby birds that fell out of trees, drove my Mom

crazy. and I have a cat from one our good friends divorce. She (the cat) was

unhappy (I could tell) so I offered to take her while he was gone on a 6 day

trip (he's a pilot) and when he came back, the cat moved out, (I wrote him a

goodbye letter!) into our place. LOL!)

You know, I used to live in Boston (9 years-I went to school there, I grew up

near Albany, NY) and I had no idea this program was there until I moved (from

Northern VA) to Texas...It was RIGHT there all this time. Two of my sibs live

within an hours drive of them and one within 1.5 hours.

I did contact them, and we do consult time. As the psychological stuff isn't

necessarily something I am good at or know (or understand) how to approach --

with my brother. Love that program. Very good stuff!

laura

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> What a fantastic " son-rise " type attitude you have. I felt that way too when

my son was 2-9 years old and we did the son-rise program. Then we had some

rough years and I'm trying to make a comeback now. Can you adopt me, put me on

a special diet, and be my mom/sister too? Just kidding!

> Jen

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Hi ,

No, actually it wasn't. Mine is a little salty and spicy. Jimmy likes both.

So, no, if I put it in front of him, he eats it, and likes it.

I am not " in love " with my yogurt maker. I can't tell my husband that because

he would just shoot me. Not that I would blame him. I would get the one that

has the quart (GLASS) jars. I have glass jars, just they are 6 individual ones

and they are a pain. I have the Deni 5600 and I don't love it. However, it

does the job well.

I took the recipe from the package, and just substituted the coconut milk. (I

got yogurt starter) -- but I also added my own probiotics. (I like to

experiment) I used PB8, sometimes another one (a bottle that I didn't finish),

and I was going to try Threelac.

I like fruit in my yogurt(without lumps), so I make my own. I take fresh

strawberries or blueberries, and add a tsp of reg (organic) sugar, and let it

sit, then I puree it, and add it to the yogurt when I am serving it. But for

people in a hurry, or in a pinch, you can warm up (not in a microwave) Cascadian

Farm Organic (pick a flavor) jelly, and it tastes the same. I didn't love it

when I made it with Stevia or Xlylitol -- so I make it with sugar. (However, my

son and daughter did eat it with both of those sweeteners.)

Also, when making it with coconut, the oil gets hard (after refrigeration) so I

blend the coconut milk for a while, but you know they make a coconut milk that

comes in a carton now...I am wondering if that would yield better results. But

it's tasty. We love it.

I like cooking with sugar rather than the sweeteners...but that is just me, I

know a few people that prefer the sweeteners.

laura

Wait, you are in the UK!, I don't know if they sell that brand, but any jelly

that just has fruit first, then sugar, and no fillers.

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> > > > > > > testing have you done? what changes have you made? what things are

>

> > > you

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> > > > > > > doing?

>

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