Re: for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

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This is a marathon , not a sprint. We are now on our 8th year of biomed. She is fully mainstreamed( with an aide) gen Ed curriculum. We will continue until those aspects if her autism that affect her functioning are resolved. Not everyones kid recovers but we can sure keep trying to give them the best quality if life that they deserve. Our biggest protocols- IVIG, HBOT, and IV chelation. These were not around when we first started out when she was 3. We only implemented these within the last 3-4 years.....

been doing this 2 months without seeing any change -- how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real changes?what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think affected real change?

thanks,leah

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this means you haven't found a source of what is keeping him there. what testing have you done? what changes have you made? what things are you doing?

for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real changes?

what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think affected real change?

thanks,

leah

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well we've done his testing but will get the results at our next dan! appt. next month -- so far have only had the preliminary initial meeting with her...we shall see..but i'm still curious how far all of you are on the journey and how long you've been doing it..

thanks,leah

 

this means you haven't found a source of what is keeping him there. what testing have you done?  what changes have you made?  what things are you doing?

 

for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

 

been doing this 2 months without seeing any change -- 

how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real changes?

what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think affected real change?

thanks,

leah

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WHAT tests were run, and what are his symptoms?

for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real changes? what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think affected real change?

thanks,

leah

[Guest guest]

we did the urine porphryn (sp.?) test, doctor's data stool test and metametric pediatric ion profile test...symptoms --stims out of control bouncing on couches mostly and some visual stims as well

verbal apraxiacognitive fuzzinesstantrummingrecently (since starting SCD) darker frequent stools but previously lighter and lots of undigested foodsdidn't seem to respond to gf/cf/sf/cf at all after 4 months

 

WHAT tests were run, and what are his symptoms?

 

for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

 

been doing this 2 months without seeing any change -- 

how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real changes? what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think affected real change?

thanks,

leah

[Guest guest]

What was the results of the stool test? Are you using digestive enzymes, it should help with the undigested food problem.

Stimming in our house means yeast.

Are you giving Cod liver oil, this helped my son with his cognitive functions.

Can you list what supplements you are giving?

x

To: mb12 valtrex From: vitaltalim18@...Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:43:38 -0400Subject: Re: for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

we did the urine porphryn (sp.?) test, doctor's data stool test and metametric pediatric ion profile test...

symptoms --

stims out of control bouncing on couches mostly and some visual stims as well

verbal apraxia

cognitive fuzziness

tantrumming

recently (since starting SCD) darker frequent stools but previously lighter and lots of undigested foods

didn't seem to respond to gf/cf/sf/cf at all after 4 months

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Christel King <christelking1myfairpoint (DOT) net> wrote:

WHAT tests were run, and what are his symptoms?

for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real changes? what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think affected real change?

thanks,

leah

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gluten can take 6 months to completely leave the system.Sent from my iPhone

we did the urine porphryn (sp.?) test, doctor's data stool test and metametric pediatric ion profile test...symptoms --stims out of control bouncing on couches mostly and some visual stims as well

verbal apraxiacognitive fuzzinesstantrummingrecently (since starting SCD) darker frequent stools but previously lighter and lots of undigested foodsdidn't seem to respond to gf/cf/sf/cf at all after 4 months

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Christel King <christelking1myfairpoint (DOT) net> wrote:

WHAT tests were run, and what are his symptoms?

for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real changes? what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think affected real change?

thanks,

leah

[Guest guest]

What was the results of the stool test? Are you using digestive enzymes, it should help with the undigested food problem.

Stimming in our house means yeast.

Are you giving Cod liver oil, this helped my son with his cognitive functions.

Can you list what supplements you are giving?

x

To: mb12 valtrex From: vitaltalim18@...Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:43:38 -0400Subject: Re: for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

we did the urine porphryn (sp.?) test, doctor's data stool test and metametric pediatric ion profile test...

symptoms --

stims out of control bouncing on couches mostly and some visual stims as well

verbal apraxia

cognitive fuzziness

tantrumming

recently (since starting SCD) darker frequent stools but previously lighter and lots of undigested foods

didn't seem to respond to gf/cf/sf/cf at all after 4 months

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Christel King <christelking1myfairpoint (DOT) net> wrote:

WHAT tests were run, and what are his symptoms?

for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real changes? what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think affected real change?

thanks,

leah

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sounds like yeast. have you tried vit a or CLO for eye stims?Sent from my iPhone

we did the urine porphryn (sp.?) test, doctor's data stool test and metametric pediatric ion profile test...symptoms --stims out of control bouncing on couches mostly and some visual stims as well

verbal apraxiacognitive fuzzinesstantrummingrecently (since starting SCD) darker frequent stools but previously lighter and lots of undigested foodsdidn't seem to respond to gf/cf/sf/cf at all after 4 months

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Christel King <christelking1myfairpoint (DOT) net> wrote:

WHAT tests were run, and what are his symptoms?

for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real changes? what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think affected real change?

thanks,

leah

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Okay, still introducing new supps but here's what he has so farDigestGluteneaseLiver LifeCytofloraCandidase (only for past week)Vitamin E

MagnesiumCalciumVitamin CCod Liver OilCoQ10 (only for past 2 days)MB12 shots every 3 daysjust bought Grapefruit Seed Extract but not yet sure when to give it..

still have some more to introduce too..

 

What was the results of the stool test? Are you using digestive enzymes, it should help with the undigested food problem.

 

Stimming in our house means yeast.

 

Are you giving Cod liver oil, this helped my son with his cognitive functions.

 

Can you list what supplements you are giving?

 

x  

To: mb12 valtrex From: vitaltalim18@...Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:43:38 -0400

Subject: Re: for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered... 

we did the urine porphryn (sp.?) test, doctor's data stool test and metametric pediatric ion profile test...

symptoms --

stims out of control bouncing on couches mostly and some visual stims as well

verbal apraxia

cognitive fuzziness

tantrumming

recently (since starting SCD) darker frequent stools but previously lighter and lots of undigested foods

didn't seem to respond to gf/cf/sf/cf at all after 4 months

 

WHAT tests were run, and what are his symptoms?

 

for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

 

been doing this 2 months without seeing any change -- 

how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real changes? what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think affected real change?

thanks,

leah

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actually 8 months for levels to come down

for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real changes? what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think affected real change?

thanks,

leah

[Guest guest]

for visual stims you can do vit A, which is for kids with measels over done in the body, (you want to pull titers on viral things, not in your list of things listed)

sounds like you have big yeast issues. which the stool test may or may not sure results on depending on if it cutlures or not

I would rexcommend doing IGG testing as well to further refine

for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real changes? what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think affected real change?

thanks,

leah

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WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR ONE YEAR LAST NOVEMVBER AND CHANGES HAVE BEEN GRADUAL THE ENTIRE TIME LEADING UP TO SOME AWESOME STUFF WE SEE NOW!

To: Valtrex <mb12 valtrex >Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 5:50:15 PMSubject: RE: for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

What was the results of the stool test? Are you using digestive enzymes, it should help with the undigested food problem. Stimming in our house means yeast. Are you giving Cod liver oil, this helped my son with his cognitive functions. Can you list what supplements you are giving? x

To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comFrom: vitaltalim18@ gmail.comDate: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:43:38 -0400Subject: Re: for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

we did the urine porphryn (sp.?) test, doctor's data stool test and metametric pediatric ion profile test... symptoms --

stims out of control bouncing on couches mostly and some visual stims as well

verbal apraxia

cognitive fuzziness

tantrumming

recently (since starting SCD) darker frequent stools but previously lighter and lots of undigested foods

didn't seem to respond to gf/cf/sf/cf at all after 4 months

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Christel King <christelking1@ myfairpoint. net> wrote:

WHAT tests were run, and what are his symptoms?

for those with recovered kids or nearly recovered...

been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --

how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real changes? what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think affected real change?

thanks,

leah

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HI Leah,

My son is very close to total recovery. It's been about 8 months for us. I

will say this though...I stopped all his vaccinations at 9 months because he

came down with the whooping cough. He never received the MMR. I believe I

would be a very different place right now if he had.

Dr. Moulden believes (and I believe him) that every child can be

recovered, cured, whatever. (Question #30).

Here is the website where I got it from. It was an interview with this doctor.

....here is what he has got to say about it. You will love question # 30 -- as

YES, your child can and will heal, given the right protocol.

http://vactruth.com/2009/07/21/dr-andrew-moulden-interview-what-you-were-never-t\

old-about-vaccines/

Question # 29, gives you a phone number you can call. If it were me, and I had

had no luck in 4 months...I would call.

Sometimes it's a matter of finding the right combination of protocols in the

right order. However, that being said, I feel that nutrition should be your

number one priority - as it really is 90% of health.

I hope this helps...

laura

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I read the interview with Dr. Moulden and I am very intrigued by him.

Could you tell us more about your journey in recovering your son with him - what

steps you went through and how severely affected was your son prior to that.

Thanks a lot for sharing this information,

Krassi

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I thought this guy was a scam artist.

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Yeah, - did you recover him through Dr. Moulden or you were just quoting him?  I called the organization listed at the bottom of the article for helping treat children and they told me they charge $12,000/month!!!  I admit the services looked out of this world, but it still seemed a little high.  Then they said you can stay at a Mc house nearby for 15$/night... is this a scam or no?

 

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Yeah, - did you recover him through Dr. Moulden or you were just quoting him?  I called the organization listed at the bottom of the article for helping treat children and they told me they charge $12,000/month!!!  I admit the services looked out of this world, but it still seemed a little high.  Then they said you can stay at a Mc house nearby for 15$/night... is this a scam or no?

 

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Yeah, - did you recover him through Dr. Moulden or you were just quoting him?  I called the organization listed at the bottom of the article for helping treat children and they told me they charge $12,000/month!!!  I admit the services looked out of this world, but it still seemed a little high.  Then they said you can stay at a Mc house nearby for 15$/night... is this a scam or no?

 

I thought this guy was a scam artist.

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RUN that is rediculous, you can go to mirical mountain for less then that by far

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RUN that is rediculous, you can go to mirical mountain for less then that by far

* for those with recovered kids or nearly> > > > recovered...> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --> > > > how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real changes?> > > > what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think> > > > affected real change?> > > >> > > > thanks,> > > > leah> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> >>

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RUN that is rediculous, you can go to mirical mountain for less then that by far

* for those with recovered kids or nearly> > > > recovered...> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --> > > > how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real changes?> > > > what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think> > > > affected real change?> > > >> > > > thanks,> > > > leah> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> >>

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I've seen this guy floating around on the internet before....I think he's a total crackerjack.

I thought this guy was a scam artist.

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I've seen this guy floating around on the internet before....I think he's a total crackerjack.

I thought this guy was a scam artist.

> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > this means you haven't found a source of what is keeping him there. what> > > > testing have you done? what changes have you made? what things are you> > > > doing?> > > >> > > >> > > > * for those with recovered kids or nearly> > > > recovered...> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > been doing this 2 months without seeing any change --> > > > how long had you been doing biomed before you started to see real changes?> > > > what were the most influential parts of your protocols that you think> > > > affected real change?> > > >> > > > thanks,> > > > leah> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Leah,

Um, hell no. I didn't pay anyone that kind of money! A " little " high? more

like highway robbery. I had no idea that they charged that kind of money. I

have no idea if it's a scam or not. Which organization did you call? The

Bright Steps or Therapies 4 kids? I am very curious as to what the heck costs

$12k per month?

I have literally used items available to me thru my DAN and the internet. I

have not paid anyone (except for my DAN) to help me w/my son and brother. No, I

did not use Dr. Moulden to recover my child. I used my own research and

knowledge gained thru my own hard work -- and of others in my similar situation.

However, I think this guy is legit. I do. And I do believe that the people in

charge do not want this information to get out. It took me a long time to

realize that not every organization, Fed gov't program, or dept, is necessarily

on my side or even cares about my or the overall needs of the many.

That being said, I will call myself tomorrow, and see if I can't find out more

about it. It sounds a little disconcerting.

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