RE: IRF Patients and Weekend Frequency

[Guest guest]

We try to provide extra therapy on the weekends but usually we are just getting

those who need the 5 days out of 7 such as admits on Thurs and Fri. We also

getthe intensity for those who are discharging on Monday or Tues. Staffing is

the biggest difficulty, as I am sure customer service would improveif we could

cover all seven days the same.

Kathy Lovato PT, DPT

Director Therapy Operations

Mesa,AZ

IRF Patients and Weekend Frequency

Hello Group! I have a question for those of you who are managing/involved

with IRF. Are you providing extra therapy for patients who received 3

hours of therapy M-F on Saturday and Sunday? If so, what disciplines and

how long do you schedule these sessions for? Any input would be

appreciated.

Thank you,

Tara Shank

Bellin Hospital

Green Bay WI

[Guest guest]

Hi Tara, we try to provide an additional 30 minutes of OT and of PT for all

patients over the weekend-usually on Saturday, but sometimes on Sunday. If our

census is lower, we provide an hour of each discipline, with the priority going

to patients being discharged early in the upcoming week and for those who need

family training when the family has difficulty coming during the weekdays.

Thanks

Kerry

Kerry R. Wood, PT, DPT

Therapy Manager

FAHC IP Rehab Therapies

Colchester, VT 05446

Fax:

www.fletcherallen.org

Life is Precious.....LIVE IT!!

IRF Patients and Weekend Frequency

Hello Group! I have a question for those of you who are managing/involved with

IRF. Are you providing extra therapy for patients who received 3 hours of

therapy M-F on Saturday and Sunday? If so, what disciplines and how long do you

schedule these sessions for? Any input would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Tara Shank

Bellin Hospital

Green Bay WI

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[Guest guest]

Tara,

I have a 15 bed acute rehab unit. We provide therapy on Saturday which is the

least you have to do to meet the regs. You can't provide 5 out of 7 days of

therapy without working Saturday. We see patients who require 90 minutes of

therapy on Saturday and provide others at least 30-45 minutes of therapy. We

provide OT, PT and ST as needed.

Good Luck,

Deane

W. Deane

Rehabilitations Services

Finger Lakes Health

196 North St.

Geneva, New York, 14456

Tel:

Fax:

E-Mail: deane.butler@...

>>> 1/3/2011 7:56 PM >>>

Hello Group! I have a question for those of you who are managing/involved

with IRF. Are you providing extra therapy for patients who received 3

hours of therapy M-F on Saturday and Sunday? If so, what disciplines and

how long do you schedule these sessions for? Any input would be

appreciated.

Thank you,

Tara Shank

Bellin Hospital

Green Bay WI

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[Guest guest]

We try to make sure every patient receives at least 1 discipline on Saturday and

Sunday. The amount of time and discipline depends on the staffing we have after

we have met the 3 hour requirements + our RUG groups on skilled and our acute

orthopedic population. Ideally, we like to provide one extra 3 hour day as a

buffer for those weekdays when unexpected things might occur that causes us to

lose a day. However, with increased census and limited weekend staffing, we are

not always able to do so.

Robin King, PT, C/NDT, CCCE

Therapy Manager, Rehab Therapy

Health

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[Guest guest]

Hi Tara

Since IRF patients are on a rolling 7 day week, starting with day of

admit, we count the days in which they received the 3 hours and once

they reach 5 full days, of the 7 possible, they get 1 day off and then

another day of therapy, with whatever services are needed...it could be

OT, PT and/or Speech Therapy.

Brownrigg

Inpatient Therapy Manager

Acute Care and Inpatient Physical Rehabilitation Therapies

PeaceHealth St. ph Medical Center

2901Squalicum Parkway

Bellingham, WA 98225

sbrownrigg@...

www.peacehealth.org

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On

Behalf Of Wood, Kerry R.

Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:04 AM

To: 'PTManager '

Subject: RE: IRF Patients and Weekend Frequency

Hi Tara, we try to provide an additional 30 minutes of OT and of PT for

all patients over the weekend-usually on Saturday, but sometimes on

Sunday. If our census is lower, we provide an hour of each discipline,

with the priority going to patients being discharged early in the

upcoming week and for those who need family training when the family has

difficulty coming during the weekdays.

Thanks

Kerry

Kerry R. Wood, PT, DPT

Therapy Manager

FAHC IP Rehab Therapies

Colchester, VT 05446

Fax:

www.fletcherallen.org

Life is Precious.....LIVE IT!!

IRF Patients and Weekend Frequency

Hello Group! I have a question for those of you who are

managing/involved with IRF. Are you providing extra therapy for patients

who received 3 hours of therapy M-F on Saturday and Sunday? If so, what

disciplines and how long do you schedule these sessions for? Any input

would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Tara Shank

Bellin Hospital

Green Bay WI

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[Guest guest]

unless you provide 3 hrs on day 1.

________________________________

From: PTManager on behalf of Deane

Sent: Tue 1/4/2011 10:21 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: Re: IRF Patients and Weekend Frequency

Tara,

I have a 15 bed acute rehab unit. We provide therapy on Saturday which is the

least you have to do to meet the regs. You can't provide 5 out of 7 days of

therapy without working Saturday. We see patients who require 90 minutes of

therapy on Saturday and provide others at least 30-45 minutes of therapy. We

provide OT, PT and ST as needed.

Good Luck,

Deane

W. Deane

Rehabilitations Services

Finger Lakes Health

196 North St.

Geneva, New York, 14456

Tel:

Fax:

E-Mail: deane.butler@... <mailto:deane.butler%40flhealth.org>

>>> <tara.shank@... <mailto:tara.shank%40greenbaynet.com> > 1/3/2011

7:56 PM >>>

Hello Group! I have a question for those of you who are managing/involved

with IRF. Are you providing extra therapy for patients who received 3

hours of therapy M-F on Saturday and Sunday? If so, what disciplines and

how long do you schedule these sessions for? Any input would be

appreciated.

Thank you,

Tara Shank

Bellin Hospital

Green Bay WI

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[Guest guest]

In our unit (16 beds), we do pretty much the same, Saturday is our 5th day, some

weeks we may have to do it on Sundays, rarely though

Leonor , R.P.T

Manager, Inpatient Rehabilitation Services

Pager 317

diazlm@...

>>> " Deane " 1/4/2011 7:21 AM >>>

Tara,

I have a 15 bed acute rehab unit. We provide therapy on Saturday which is the

least you have to do to meet the regs. You can't provide 5 out of 7 days of

therapy without working Saturday. We see patients who require 90 minutes of

therapy on Saturday and provide others at least 30-45 minutes of therapy. We

provide OT, PT and ST as needed.

Good Luck,

Deane

W. Deane

Rehabilitations Services

Finger Lakes Health

196 North St.

Geneva, New York, 14456

Tel:

Fax:

E-Mail: deane.butler@...

>>> 1/3/2011 7:56 PM >>>

Hello Group! I have a question for those of you who are managing/involved

with IRF. Are you providing extra therapy for patients who received 3

hours of therapy M-F on Saturday and Sunday? If so, what disciplines and

how long do you schedule these sessions for? Any input would be

appreciated.

Thank you,

Tara Shank

Bellin Hospital

Green Bay WI

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********************************************

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Speaking from past, not current experience.

We always found that regardless of the day of the week, (and as long as we

at least me the minimum requirements), it was in the best interest of the

patient and the facility to provide the patient with exactly what they

needed to get home (or to the next level of care) as safely and as quickly

as possible.

Now this could create scheduling challenges, but good creative use of

personnel and generally being open to flexible schedules of staff allowed

this to happen.

Good Luck!

Lauer

Principal

Aspire Consulting

One Horseshoe Drive

Hyde Park, NY 12539

( c )

<http://www.AspireAdvantage.com> www.AspireAdvantage.com

SLauer@...

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf

Of Brownrigg, M

Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:54 AM

To: PTManager

Subject: RE: IRF Patients and Weekend Frequency

Hi Tara

Since IRF patients are on a rolling 7 day week, starting with day of

admit, we count the days in which they received the 3 hours and once

they reach 5 full days, of the 7 possible, they get 1 day off and then

another day of therapy, with whatever services are needed...it could be

OT, PT and/or Speech Therapy.

Brownrigg

Inpatient Therapy Manager

Acute Care and Inpatient Physical Rehabilitation Therapies

PeaceHealth St. ph Medical Center

2901Squalicum Parkway

Bellingham, WA 98225

sbrownrigg@... <mailto:sbrownrigg%40peacehealth.org>

www.peacehealth.org

From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

Behalf Of Wood, Kerry R.

Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:04 AM

To: 'PTManager <mailto:%27PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> '

Subject: RE: IRF Patients and Weekend Frequency

Hi Tara, we try to provide an additional 30 minutes of OT and of PT for

all patients over the weekend-usually on Saturday, but sometimes on

Sunday. If our census is lower, we provide an hour of each discipline,

with the priority going to patients being discharged early in the

upcoming week and for those who need family training when the family has

difficulty coming during the weekdays.

Thanks

Kerry

Kerry R. Wood, PT, DPT

Therapy Manager

FAHC IP Rehab Therapies

Colchester, VT 05446

Fax:

www.fletcherallen.org

Life is Precious.....LIVE IT!!

IRF Patients and Weekend Frequency

Hello Group! I have a question for those of you who are

managing/involved with IRF. Are you providing extra therapy for patients

who received 3 hours of therapy M-F on Saturday and Sunday? If so, what

disciplines and how long do you schedule these sessions for? Any input

would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Tara Shank

Bellin Hospital

Green Bay WI

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[Guest guest]

We are about the same as Kathy's description.

Dan Gaskell

Inpatient Therapy Manager

Carilion Clinic

Roanoke, VA

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> We try to provide extra therapy on the weekends but usually we are just

getting those who need the 5 days out of 7 such as admits on Thurs and Fri. We

also getthe intensity for those who are discharging on Monday or Tues. Staffing

is the biggest difficulty, as I am sure customer service would improveif we

could cover all seven days the same.

> Kathy Lovato PT, DPT

> Director Therapy Operations

> Mesa,AZ

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> IRF Patients and Weekend Frequency

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> Hello Group! I have a question for those of you who are managing/involved

> with IRF. Are you providing extra therapy for patients who received 3

> hours of therapy M-F on Saturday and Sunday? If so, what disciplines and

> how long do you schedule these sessions for? Any input would be

> appreciated.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Tara Shank

>

> Bellin Hospital

> Green Bay WI

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[Guest guest]

We try to provide one session of PT and OT over the weekend and speech if

appropriate.

That session length varies depending on where they are on hours of therapy

through the rolling week. Depending on staffing and pt need we can increase the

time to assist with meeting the regs.

We try to PT and Speech on Saturday and OT on Sundays so that they receive some

type of therapy session 7 days a week.

Evers, PT, MBA

Manager of Rehab Services

Boone Hospital Center

(573)815-3889

tevers@...

>>> " Brownrigg, M " 1/4/2011 9:53 AM >>>

Hi Tara

Since IRF patients are on a rolling 7 day week, starting with day of

admit, we count the days in which they received the 3 hours and once

they reach 5 full days, of the 7 possible, they get 1 day off and then

another day of therapy, with whatever services are needed...it could be

OT, PT and/or Speech Therapy.

Brownrigg

Inpatient Therapy Manager

Acute Care and Inpatient Physical Rehabilitation Therapies

PeaceHealth St. ph Medical Center

2901Squalicum Parkway

Bellingham, WA 98225

sbrownrigg@...

www.peacehealth.org

From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On

Behalf Of Wood, Kerry R.

Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:04 AM

To: 'PTManager '

Subject: RE: IRF Patients and Weekend Frequency

Hi Tara, we try to provide an additional 30 minutes of OT and of PT for

all patients over the weekend-usually on Saturday, but sometimes on

Sunday. If our census is lower, we provide an hour of each discipline,

with the priority going to patients being discharged early in the

upcoming week and for those who need family training when the family has

difficulty coming during the weekdays.

Thanks

Kerry

Kerry R. Wood, PT, DPT

Therapy Manager

FAHC IP Rehab Therapies

Colchester, VT 05446

Fax:

www.fletcherallen.org

Life is Precious.....LIVE IT!!

IRF Patients and Weekend Frequency

Hello Group! I have a question for those of you who are

managing/involved with IRF. Are you providing extra therapy for patients

who received 3 hours of therapy M-F on Saturday and Sunday? If so, what

disciplines and how long do you schedule these sessions for? Any input

would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Tara Shank

Bellin Hospital

Green Bay WI

------------------------------------

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" PTManager believes in and supports Therapist-owned Therapy Practices

ONLY "

Messages relating to " how to set up a POPTS " will not be approved

PTManager encourages participation in your professional association.

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