Vision

[Guest guest]

HI HEATHER

I HAVE HAD VISUAL CHANGES TOO. WITHIN A FEW MONTHS OF STARTING MTX I

HAD TROUBLE READING NEWSPAPER PRINT. WENT TO OPTHAMOLOGIST AND TOLD I

WAS FARSIGHTED AND PRESCRIBED READING GLASSES.....8 MOS LATER I AGAIN

HAVE PROBLEMS WITH SMALL PRINT EVEN WITH THE GLASSES... IM GOING BACK TO

HAVE THEM CHECKED.

[Guest guest]

Hi

Yes my vision does that too at times but only on close up things. I too

feel like there is a second skin at times. Its a weird feeling.

Where do you live in Canada ?

Dianne

Australia

At 00:37 24/04/2001 -0700, you wrote:

>Hi all,

>

>Recently I've been noticing a major sudden change in my vision. It seems to

>be coinciding with the start of my fingernails and toenails loosening from

>the nailbed. I feel like I have some sort of skin over my eyes (no, I don't

>have catarachs, thank God... I'm not ready to be that advanced beyond my

>years yet)and tonight I was quite shocked when in a class I am taking, I saw

>everything double - kind of like 3D writing created by putting a shadow

>behind it. I know this sounds really strange and I'm getting it checked

>ASAP, but I'm wondering if anyone else in this group has had a similar

>experience.

>

>Today, after 5 long months of waiting, I'm finally going to see a rheumy.

>With the way I feel now, I think I'm going to make it to his doorstep and

>then collapse in a huge undignified heap!

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[Guest guest]

I am having a serious vision problem and am going to see an opthamologist

thurs. I was curious if this is linked to mercury or even yeast.

In andy's book there are some references to vision problems but I was

wondering if this is what's going on with me.

So far I learned formt he retinologist the other day that my retina lining

is very thin in both eyes(not a detachment) He wants to do a preventive

mantenancelaser surgery to seal the linings to prevent a tear. He also said

there is something called lattice in both of my eyes too.

I am in my 30's. I am also legally blind in one eye so this is really scary

for me as my ability to focus is pretty hard and the light really hurts.

anyone think it's related? and if yes, what should I suggest to the dr.?

thanks,

Carol

[Guest guest]

> So far I learned formt he retinologist the other day that my retina

lining

> is very thin in both eyes(not a detachment) He wants to do a preventive

> mantenancelaser surgery to seal the linings to prevent a tear. He

also said

> there is something called lattice in both of my eyes too.

> I am in my 30's. I am also legally blind in one eye so this is

really scary

> for me as my ability to focus is pretty hard and the light really hurts.

> anyone think it's related? and if yes, what should I suggest to the dr.?

I can only give you the info and experience that I have, which does

not sound exactly like what you are experiencing, but maybe it will help.

I have VERY LONG eyes, causing severe myopia. I am legally blind

without my glasses, and with my glasses I am correctable about 85% or

so. I don't have good depth perception nor do I see well at night.

Because my eyes are so long, my retinas are " stretched " [to use the

word used by my eye care people]. I am cautioned at every appt to

avoid severe sneezing and other activities that can jar my head. I

also have my pupils dilated at every appt to check for further

stretching and potential detachment, with an admonishment to report

any instance of " seeing sparkles " .

I also have floaters, which look like small pieces of string floating

around inside my eye, which I am told is " common as people get older " ,

altho I have had them since my early 20s.

All of the above info is from medical people who are " traditional " .

Biomedical things I have done which have eliminated the floaters and

also helped with the other issues are: enzymes [major help],

multi-vitamin with higher doses of B vitamins and vitamin A, OLE for

virus issues and GSE for yeast issues, and a few other things. The

enzymes and multi-vitamin appear to be the ones which caused the most

significant improvement. I have definitely noticed that it is

difficult to focus my eyes if I miss my multi-vitamin for two days in

a row. I NEVER miss my enzymes [major problems if I do, including the

floaters].

Because all of those things are things which have been required for my

metal-toxic kids, I would guess that metals might also cause my own

issues, and perhaps yours also. I don't know if your doctor would be

willing to consider that tho.

Surgery has never been recommended to me " unless the retinas detach " ,

and I would definitely not rush into a surgery. Recently, quite a

number of people have recommended that I consider the laser eye

surgery to correct the myopia [my glasses look like bottle-bottoms,

even tho they are the thinnest material available], but I still don't

like the idea of surgery. I can certainly relate to your hesitation

with this decision.

Even tho I have been told since about age 8 that I would be " blind by

20 " and then " blind by 30 " , etc, I am still not blind and I am over

40. I have also not had my retinas detach.

At my last appt, it was not recommended that I have a dilation at my

next appt. My prescription had not increased much at all, one eye was

actually the same rx as last time, the other eye was only slightly

worse. A definite improvement.

Good luck.

Dana

[Guest guest]

There's a connection between mercury toxicity and photosensitivity. I an't

recall, do you still have amalgam fillings or have you had them out? If you've

had them out, are you cheltaing? If so, which chelator, how much, and what

schedule? If you still have amalgam, I would suggest that you find a

mercury-free dentist ASAP. My vision (myopia and astigmatism) was declining

fairly rapidly until I had my mercury out. It then stabilized.

I wouldn't recommend it, but I ended up with a strained neck when a 13-y.o. with

autism with whom I worked yanked me to the ground by my hair when I blocked his

way as he tried to run into traffic. The cranial sacral therapy I got for my

neck caused a sudden improvement in my vision (from 20/300 in my left eye to

20/200, less dramatic in my right eye). The eye doc checked 4 times because he

couldn't believe the difference.

I don't know (doubt) that CST would help with retina thinning though.

S

<tt>

I am having a serious vision problem and am going to see an opthamologist <BR>

thurs. I was curious if this is linked to mercury or even yeast.<BR>

In andy's book there are some references to vision problems but I was <BR>

wondering if this is what's going on with me.<BR>

So far I learned formt he retinologist the other day that my retina lining <BR>

is very thin in both eyes(not a detachment) He wants to do a preventive <BR>

mantenancelaser surgery to seal the linings to prevent a tear. He also said <BR>

there is something called lattice in both of my eyes too.<BR>

I am in my 30's. I am also legally blind in one eye so this is really scary <BR>

for me as my ability to focus is pretty hard and the light really hurts.<BR>

anyone think it's related? and if yes, what should I suggest to the dr.?<BR>

thanks,<BR>

Carol <BR>

<BR>

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[Guest guest]

Dana,

I think I read somewhere that these eye dilation drops had Thimerosal in them...

Have you heard about this?? :-))

[ ] Re: vision

> So far I learned formt he retinologist the other day that my retina

lining

> is very thin in both eyes(not a detachment) He wants to do a preventive

> mantenancelaser surgery to seal the linings to prevent a tear. He

also said

> there is something called lattice in both of my eyes too.

> I am in my 30's. I am also legally blind in one eye so this is

really scary

> for me as my ability to focus is pretty hard and the light really hurts.

> anyone think it's related? and if yes, what should I suggest to the dr.?

I can only give you the info and experience that I have, which does

not sound exactly like what you are experiencing, but maybe it will help.

I have VERY LONG eyes, causing severe myopia. I am legally blind

without my glasses, and with my glasses I am correctable about 85% or

so. I don't have good depth perception nor do I see well at night.

Because my eyes are so long, my retinas are " stretched " [to use the

word used by my eye care people]. I am cautioned at every appt to

avoid severe sneezing and other activities that can jar my head. I

also have my pupils dilated at every appt to check for further

stretching and potential detachment, with an admonishment to report

any instance of " seeing sparkles " .

I also have floaters, which look like small pieces of string floating

around inside my eye, which I am told is " common as people get older " ,

altho I have had them since my early 20s.

All of the above info is from medical people who are " traditional " .

Biomedical things I have done which have eliminated the floaters and

also helped with the other issues are: enzymes [major help],

multi-vitamin with higher doses of B vitamins and vitamin A, OLE for

virus issues and GSE for yeast issues, and a few other things. The

enzymes and multi-vitamin appear to be the ones which caused the most

significant improvement. I have definitely noticed that it is

difficult to focus my eyes if I miss my multi-vitamin for two days in

a row. I NEVER miss my enzymes [major problems if I do, including the

floaters].

Because all of those things are things which have been required for my

metal-toxic kids, I would guess that metals might also cause my own

issues, and perhaps yours also. I don't know if your doctor would be

willing to consider that tho.

Surgery has never been recommended to me " unless the retinas detach " ,

and I would definitely not rush into a surgery. Recently, quite a

number of people have recommended that I consider the laser eye

surgery to correct the myopia [my glasses look like bottle-bottoms,

even tho they are the thinnest material available], but I still don't

like the idea of surgery. I can certainly relate to your hesitation

with this decision.

Even tho I have been told since about age 8 that I would be " blind by

20 " and then " blind by 30 " , etc, I am still not blind and I am over

40. I have also not had my retinas detach.

At my last appt, it was not recommended that I have a dilation at my

next appt. My prescription had not increased much at all, one eye was

actually the same rx as last time, the other eye was only slightly

worse. A definite improvement.

Good luck.

Dana

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[Guest guest]

vitamin A (start with a mega-dose, ie 300,000 or 400,000 IU over

three of four days, then cut back to 10-20,000 Iu per day) and

fish oil (esp EPA) are helpful. so are bilberry supplements. also

include all kinds of berries in diet as much as possible

[Guest guest]

> Dana,

>

> I think I read somewhere that these eye dilation drops had

Thimerosal in them... Have you heard about this?? :-))

I plan to check the label the next time I have my eyes dilated.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Bilberry & Lutein is what one of the old-timers used to recommend...??

Cap'n Caveman...zzzzzz

[low dose naltrexone] Vision

Does anyone know what to take for vision? I am on LDN and seems to help with MS

Thanks

[Guest guest]

I take Bilberry, at least 1,000 mg daily.

Peace and Blessings

~*~ Akiba ~*~

Pragmatic Visionary

http://yodamamma.blogspot.com/

http://www.solay-twinflames.com

-- [low dose naltrexone] Vision

Does anyone know what to take for vision? I am on LDN and seems to help with MS

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I take Lutein 6mg.

Dee

--- lkilcollin@... wrote:

> Does anyone know what to take for vision? I am on LDN

> and seems to help

> with MS

> Thanks

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

A few days ago, you posted some info on your right eye bothering you

before and when I went to search for it I couldn't find it. It sounds

like what's going on w/ me but in my left eye. I saw another post

where you wrote about crossed vision, which is something I occasionally

struggle with, although it seems to be getting better.

Just wondering how long it took you to get your vision back, if you

have. I also had an MSH of 8. My vision has improved since being on

pregnenelone and DHEA for the last week and Armour for the last 2

days...but it still comes and goes. It seems to be clearer for longer

periods of time though.

What type of detoxing have you done? Did you go on antifungals? Have

you had/have any digestion issues as well? Thanks. Love, PH

[Guest guest]

Hi PH!! You're a sweetie, thank you for getting back to me. I just saw a

naturopath and she said that I'm definitely toxic from my implants, that my

thyroid and liver are not doing there jobs (getting rid of the toxins) and that

my lymphatic system and bladder are being effected as well. This all sounds

about right but just wondering how effective these naturopaths are. I mean..

she found all this out by putting pressure on my arm and tapping me in different

areas of my body. I figured I'd give it a shot. I'll do anything to feel

better except hurt my growing baby of course.

I'm going to e-mail Dr. Kolb because I'm a little worried about what the

naturopath, Dr., in Las Vegas, prescribed me (all homeopathic so she said

it wouldn't hurt the baby): silicone drops (to desensitize me to silicone),

liverstem liquid, livaplex capsules, and parodid caspsules. I wouldn't mind

giving it a shot after the baby but this all sorta scares me and it's not cheap.

I've looked her up and she seems to know what she's talking about. I don't know

though. I feel like calling her and telling her nevermind and cancel the

homeopathic meds. I wanted to see a naturopath because I've looked at Dr. Kolb

protocol and I don't know where to start, there are sooo many things to take and

do. Of course, I'm not going to try any of this until the baby comes but I want

to be ready. I don't want to waste one minute.

Also, thank you for letting me know that preggos do experience eye problems.

Unfortunately I had these probles before I concieved and after the implants

that's how I know it's from the implants.

Again, thank you for the advice and I will def. try what you said after the

pregnancy. 7 more weeks...can't wait!!

> >

> > Carlin,

> > I just met with Patty and Daryl for lunch, they are wonderful ladies!! Well,

I'm havimg a lot of eye issues: light sensitivity, burning, pain behind my eye,

dryness, hard time focusing etc. Patty was saying that you were having similar

problems. Do you have any advice for me. I went to my regular eye doctor a few

months back and they said I was fine. I was considering seeing an

ophthalmologist but really have a feeling that I will be wasting my time and

money again!! I will be explanted in December and hopefully this is something

that clears up right away or gradually after the explant. Of course, I was in

perfect health beforehand. Are you explanted? If so, how are your eyes now?

Can't wait to hear from you and thank you for being there!!

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Your appt with your naturopath sounds all too familiar. I too had the same

diagnoses from various naturopaths regarding my liver. My ND/MD said that

anyone who has vision problems is likely to have liver problems because 1)

hormones affect vision and the liver is a key organ in metabolizing

hormones...if it's struggling, so will your vision...for many, not all 2) the

liver/gallbladder meridian of the body goes from that organ up the back around

the ears and to the eyes so again, if there are problems in that organ it can

eaily affect the eye.

I was on various homeopathics for a while but not long enough to see results.

Sometimes wonder if I should have stayed on that protocol longer. I wish I

could offer you some advice. I do think you're definitely better off seeing a

naturopath or chiro who understands detox versus an MD who will just shrug their

shoulders and say there is nothing they can do...sooooo NOT true!

The human body KNOWS how to heal itself. You will heal but it will likely

take some time as it is/has for most of us. Yes, Kolb's protocol is

overwhelming. I think she knows her stuff and is on the right track with detox

but each individual has to choose what is best for their situation because even

though we are a lot alike, we may also be dealing with various infections/levels

of chemicals in different organs of the body.

In your situation, I think the gentler the route, the better since you are

pregnant. No heavy detoxing, just really good healthy eating and taking care of

yourself for the baby. Early on one of my docs said to focus on the ways your

body naturally detoxes (breathe in and out deeply each day, skin brush, drink

water for the kidneys and make sure the bowels are regular). Definitely get a

second opinion from Kolb or another with the homeopathics although from

everything my uncle told me about homepathics, they are very effective and

completely harmless.

Hang in there...7 weeks is just around the corner!

PH

> > >

> > > Carlin,

> > > I just met with Patty and Daryl for lunch, they are wonderful ladies!!

Well, I'm havimg a lot of eye issues: light sensitivity, burning, pain behind my

eye, dryness, hard time focusing etc. Patty was saying that you were having

similar problems. Do you have any advice for me. I went to my regular eye

doctor a few months back and they said I was fine. I was considering seeing an

ophthalmologist but really have a feeling that I will be wasting my time and

money again!! I will be explanted in December and hopefully this is something

that clears up right away or gradually after the explant. Of course, I was in

perfect health beforehand. Are you explanted? If so, how are your eyes now?

Can't wait to hear from you and thank you for being there!!

> > >

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