Mercola Update

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This is very interesting... Where do you go to see Dr. Mercola... I am very interested in trying the adrenal issues... So we can repair our adrenals? or is it permanet?

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PH . . .I know you still feel awful, but this sounds like a very good report! . . . If Mercury is the only reason you're feeling so bad, that should be relatively easy to fix. . . I'm so glad you saw Mercola's clinic! . . . They are eliminating most issues and pinpointing some others . . . I need to get to sleep earlier too! . . . The neurologist who Dx'd me with FM said the same thing about sleep.I've never been one to go to sleep early! Ugh!Hugs,Rogene

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Hi ,

I don't actually see Dr. Mercola as he no longer sees patients, but I

go to his clinic in Chicago called the Optimal Wellness Center where

all doctors have trained under him. If you go to www.mercola.com and

click on New Patients at the top, it gives you a complete tour of the

clinic.

It's extremely comprehensive and they have treated many with implant

illness, fungal infections and heavy metal toxicity. They tend to take

on the complicated and unusal cases.

Yes, you can repair the adrenals and it's actually one of the first

steps they recommend because if the adrenals are balanced, detoxing is

more efficient and easier on your body. If you try heavy detoxing

while your adrenals are suffering, you can actually stress the adrenals

further. Depending on the stage of adrenal fatigue you're in, the

faster it is to recover. Sometimes when the adrenals have been burned

out for so long it becomes nearly impossible to bounce back. So, the

sooner you get them checked and treated, the better! - PH

>

> This is very interesting... Where do you go to see Dr. Mercola... I

am very

> interested in trying the adrenal issues... So we can repair our

adrenals? or is

> it permanet?

>

> Thanks for this post.

>

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Hi Rogene,

I know what you mean about sleep! For years prior to explant I would

be wiped out at 9 but avoid going to bed. By 10 or 11 I'd be wired

and then when I finally hit the pillow...forget it...I'd toss and

turn! I never realized the impact sleep has on our health.

I hope you're right about the mercury being easy to fix. It scares

me though. My doc said it could take months or possibly years to

detox. My grandma had Alzheimer's and tons of heavy metals were

found in her brain at autopsy. My sis has Grave's (hyperthyroidism)

and has so many heavy metals that she sets off the alarm every time

she goes through airport security! There is just something about our

family and metals.

I know most women with implant illness also have heavy metal issues

but I don't remember you mentioning them personally. Did you have

yours checked or did you get well w/o going that route?

Hope you're doing ok. I'm so far behind on all the posts! Love, PH

>

> PH . . .

>

> I know you still feel awful, but this sounds like a very good

report! . . .

>

> If Mercury is the only reason you're feeling so bad, that should be

relatively easy to fix. . .

>

> I'm so glad you saw Mercola's clinic! . . . They are eliminating

most issues and pinpointing some others . . .

>

> I need to get to sleep earlier too! . . . The neurologist who Dx'd

me with FM said the same thing about sleep.

>

> I've never been one to go to sleep early! Ugh!

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

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Hi PH,I'm so glad you have the opportunity to go to Mercola's clinic. I'm praying that they will be able to help you feel better soon.Love Tracisaxony01 <saxony01@...> wrote: PH . . .I know you still feel awful, but this sounds like a very good report! . . . If Mercury is the only reason you're feeling so bad, that should be relatively easy to fix. .

.. I'm so glad you saw Mercola's clinic! . . . They are eliminating most issues and pinpointing some others . . . I need to get to sleep earlier too! . . . The neurologist who Dx'd me with FM said the same thing about sleep.I've never been one to go to sleep early! Ugh!Hugs,Rogene No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill

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Hi PH, Glad to hear about your update with Mercola's clinic. I'm not surprised at all about your stool results being clear. While I know that candida can be an issue for many of us, I have never thought that we should focus on that exclusively...I always felt that there were deeper underlying issues that needed to be addressed as well. Okay...the heavy metals and chelation. Boy, have I spent alot of time on that one. My naturopath started cleansing me of heavy metals right away after my first fast. We did a chelation challenge test, to see what I was dumping. For that challenge test, we used DMPS, ONE TIME, and it was a shot. I am glad I only had it one time, as I have heard bad things about it since then. The testing revealed that I was dumping some nasty stuff.

Mercury and arsenic mostly. So, after the challenge test, he put me on DMSA, which is the safest and most effective chelating agent for getting rid of mercury. He sent me to a compounding pharmacy, who made up the capsules of DMSA....it was so long ago, I can't remember if they were 100 mg or 50 mg, but in any case, I took those for one month. When I retested, my levels were way down. I had also had all my amalgams (only 4) removed. He was satisfied with the results, but I was not....I wanted to be rid of everything. I was able to buy online some DMSA that was recommended to me, called "Captomer" by Thorne Research. By that time, I was into reading everything I could about heavy metals, and had joined a group that discussed alot about chelation therapy. Andy Cutler, PhD was on one of those groups, and he was really good about corresponding; he

seemed very knowledgeable about it. He also wrote a book that I bought on Amazon.com about the chelating process as related to amalgam poisoning. He covered the complicated subjects of chemistry and the body...but made them somewhat more understandable. You can read more about him and his protocol here: http://curezone.com/faq/q.asp?a=3,76 & q=102 So, I used alpha lipoic acid to help chelate metals out of the brain, and more DMSA in small doses according to a very specific schedule, based on the idea that DMSA is active for about 4 hours in the body. I took it every 4 hours around the clock for 4 days, and took 3 days off to add back in the minerals that were needed. I used alpha lipoic acid to detox the brain, and DMSA for the rest of the body, according to Andy Cutler's proctol. I did feel worse in fact. I remember thinking that I was going to alot of trouble to get detoxed but feeling worse and just wondering what in the world I should do. I was doing the juicing, I was making a chelation pesto with cilantro, I was taking lots of vitamins, I had turned orange from all the carrot juice I was drinking....after doing the DMSA, I moved on to other things, because I felt it was time. Chelation wasn't a magic bullet, and the gains were hardly noticeable after going through chelation, (especially after feeling worse, it was that 2 steps forward, 2 steps back thing!) I think it was beneficial, but it was not the one thing to make my life change. All I can say is that in time, I got better. It just took alot of patience. I cannot think of a single thing by itself that I did to get better that could be called in any way, shape or form a magic bullet. It just doesn't

exist for us. I think we can do so much that we are in overload at times. I wanted to get better so bad I was giving it my every last effort. I thought the one thing that was going to make me better was right around the next corner. It was a chase that was futile. There never was anything to make me better. Just patience, time, detoxing in general, and having faith that I was not going to be sick forever. I think you are in good hands with Dr Mercola, and it seems your tests show you are doing everything right. Now just relax a little! I know it's hard when you feel like you are dying. I remember those awful feelings well. It's a nightmare. But I am sure you are going to get better in time, but maybe it's time to back off a little and let your body relax and find a balance without alot of tweaking going on. Enjoy the holidays as much as you can, and then you can move

forward on the chelation therapy in the New Year. Patty -- In , "perfecthealth68"wrote:Hi All,I just returned from Mercola¡¦s and wanted to share his staff'ssuggestions:I am relieved as well as totally confused when the doc went over mystool and urine tests, they were negative for yeast, fungus,bacteria, parasites, etc!! I guess my strictness with the diet andantifungals is paying off. Although he did say that yeast and fungican sometimes be missed in the stool, yet my urine didn't show anymarkers either, so he doesn't see yeast as an issue for me. I'mstill going to stay away from sugar based on what Patty, Lynda andRogene have said.He thinks my bloating may be related to a high cortisol level frommercury. I was so happy to see that I

have a healthy level ofacidophilus (beneficial bacteria) as last year my stool resultsshowed absolutely zero for anything good.so the probiotics reallywork!He said that in his experience, when someone has odd symptoms yetblood, stool, and urine are negative, it's generally some kind ofpoisoning. Given that I have high mercury he suggested oralchelation using DMSA to detoxify the tissues and alpha lipoic acidfor detoxing the brain. Patty, I don't remember if you did DMPS orDMSA? What was your experience like? Oral or IV? He said to waittil after the holidays, as I may feel worse.He also said that no amount of fasting or perfect diet will heal youif you have heavy metals. Fasting is good for eliminating chemicalsand fungus but not for metals. He said it¡¦s extremely importantwhenusing a far infrared sauna or ionic foot bath to be taking in a lotof fiber. No matter what kind of detox you do, much of the

toxinsstill travel to the colon and the best way to get rid of them is withlots of fiber and water.Even though I feel as though I'¦m dying almost every minute of theday, I only have Stage 1 Adrenal Fatigue which is good because theysaid my adrenals can bounce back from Stage 1 in 3-12 months. Mycortisol is still at a high level but it is no longer so deviatedfrom the norm so I can safely begin detoxs in a few weeks.I am going to take pregnenelone and DHEA in the form of sublingualdrops to strengthen the adrenals. He also gave me Seraphos to lowerthe cortisol. He said these hormones will trick the brain into itsnormal routine and after 3-12 months I can wean myself off them.He went over adrenal fatigue, stating that for the rest of my lifethe following are imperative and non-negotiable:ƒá Sleep between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. During this time theadrenals rejuvenate themselves twice. If you stay up between

thesetimes, your adrenals miss out on this repair¡K.obviously, I¡¦m notfollowing doctor¡¦s orders right now!ƒá Eat protein and fats at every meal to regulate blood sugar.Absolutely no delaying or skipping meals because even if you delayand then eat, it¡¦s too late¡Kyour adrenals have already suffered.ƒá Moderate exercise 30-45 minutes 4-5 times per week because itstrengthens the adrenals as long as you aren¡¦t pushing yourself toohard.ƒá DAILY stress management in the form of meditation, prayer,yoga, listening to music, resting, whatever brings you calm andpeace. If you do this your adrenals are able to tolerate theeveryday stressors encountered by all.He put me on 30 mg of Armour twice daily for thyroid even though myantibodies and T3 are very close to normal.He is ordering an infrared imaging (thermography) scan due to theburning sensation I¡¦ve been having in my arm. He said this willpickup

on any inflammation that a blood test may miss and is better thana CT scan or MRI because of radiation side effects. He also wants itof my whole body to check any undetected dental problems (somethingthey see frequently when everything else seems normal) and breastsand back.He told me to hold back on the carrots as I'm turning orange¡Kseriously, my palms look as if I have a really awful fake tan!!Lastly, I had Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) to alleviate my fearsabout the chelation process, future, etc. My EFT therapist hadmercury toxicity so badly, he was seizing from it. It's a comforttoknow he has regained his health and more from the situation! Love, PH

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PH ~

Hey girl, sounds like you are getting

somewhere with Mercola's staff's

direction. This is wonderful.

Isnt it nice to find out that all you have

been doing has worked and you have

a nice balance inside your intestines

now? Wonderful ! You are in my

prayers girl !

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Ballerina,

When we first started figuring out how to get better from implants,

it was a collective effort to gather info as we heard from the ladies

who were getting better. What became clear was that those who were

doing natural medicine therapies were making the most strides. Those

going to MD's and taking their smorgasboard of pretty pills didn't do

so well.

So, we knew we had to focus on detoxing and natural healing methods.

However, we never did develop a step-by-step detox program, mainly

because there are so many areas of focus (thyroid, adrenals,

digestion, liver, kidney, rashes, food allergies, candida, heavy

metals, etc.) and every woman chooses to treat in her own way.

Generally, we just advise developing your own detox program, using

the info we provide and doing what seems most comfortable to you, and

what makes the most sense. We're not medical professionals (most of

us aren't), so we can only make suggestions based on what worked for

us. Everyone has different issues to focus on.

PH has been sharing her experiences with Dr. Mercola's clinic. It's

been good info! She's the expert there. It sounds like a good way

to go.

Gluten is a protein found in wheat, rye, barley and other grains.

(So, it's in sooooo many things, even condiments.) When the human

body becomes allergic to it, or has a genetic propensity for gluten

intolerance, we may experience symptoms...and those symptoms vary

from being overt to almost non-existent. But over time you can

develop horrible digestive issues, lethargy, brain fog, and a host of

other symptoms, which can eventually lead to cancer and crohn's

disease if not attended to. Complete elimination of gluten becomes

the rule. It's a hard diet to follow, because, as I said, gluten is

in almost everything that is processed.

Gluten plays a big role in this. Many implanted women develop food

allergies whereas before they had none. Most women do not take this

seriously, and if it is a neglected part of treatment, they can

remain ill. I was one who was astounded to find out I had the gene

for gluten intolerance! I had no digestive issues, but I had brain

fog and other issues that seemed to take forever to go away.

Every little bit of attention to detail in our healing process is

important. You can be doing all the detoxing in the world, but if you

keep eating gluten when you should not, you will not feel well. I

know, because I've been there, done that.

We all find our own way, but we've got the main principles down in

this group. It's multi-faceted, but I think we got this thing by the

tail. We DO get better!

Patty

>

> So are we supposed to treat these things in this order?

> 1. Adrenals

> 2. Metals

> 3. Fungus (yeast)

>

> There was a post before about getting the metals out before

treating the yeast/ fungus, but now it sounds like we are supposed to

fix the adrenals before doing other stuff. Are these the three main

things, or is there more?

>

> What about parasites and bacteria? Is there a recommended order to

getting rid of all this stuff?

>

> Where does gluten play into this? What is gluten anyway? I'm so

confused!

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PH- I will write more later (gotta get to hair and massage

appointment,) but I had to say that I am soooooooooooooooooooooo glad

that Dr. Mercola is getting you on track. I need " my rock " to feel

good again so she can come visit me....yeah!!!

Love, Krista

>

> Hi All,

>

> I just returned from Mercola¡¦s and wanted to share his staff¡¦s

> suggestions:

>

> I am relieved as well as totally confused¡Kwhen the doc went over my

> stool and urine tests, they were negative for yeast, fungus,

> bacteria, parasites, etc!! I guess my strictness with the diet and

> antifungals is paying off. Although he did say that yeast and fungi

> can sometimes be missed in the stool, yet my urine didn¡¦t show any

> markers either, so he doesn¡¦t see yeast as an issue for me. I¡¦m

> still going to stay away from sugar based on what Patty, Lynda and

> Rogene have said.

>

> He thinks my bloating may be related to a high cortisol level from

> mercury. I was so happy to see that I have a healthy level of

> acidophilus (beneficial bacteria) as last year my stool results

> showed absolutely zero for anything good¡K.so the probiotics really

> work!

>

> He said that in his experience, when someone has odd symptoms yet

> blood, stool, and urine are negative, it¡¦s generally some kind of

> poisoning. Given that I have high mercury he suggested oral

> chelation using DMSA to detoxify the tissues and alpha lipoic acid

> for detoxing the brain. Patty, I don¡¦t remember if you did DMPS or

> DMSA? What was your experience like? Oral or IV? He said to wait

> til after the holidays, as I may feel worse.

>

> He also said that no amount of fasting or perfect diet will heal you

> if you have heavy metals. Fasting is good for eliminating chemicals

> and fungus but not for metals. He said it¡¦s extremely important when

> using a far infrared sauna or ionic foot bath to be taking in a lot

> of fiber. No matter what kind of detox you do, much of the toxins

> still travel to the colon and the best way to get rid of them is with

> lots of fiber and water.

>

> Even though I feel as though I¡¦m dying almost every minute of the

> day, I only have Stage 1 Adrenal Fatigue which is good because they

> said my adrenals can bounce back from Stage 1 in 3-12 months. My

> cortisol is still at a high level but it is no longer so deviated

> from the norm so I can safely begin detoxs in a few weeks.

>

> I am going to take pregnenelone and DHEA in the form of sublingual

> drops to strengthen the adrenals. He also gave me Seraphos to lower

> the cortisol. He said these hormones will trick the brain into its

> normal routine and after 3-12 months I can wean myself off them.

>

> He went over adrenal fatigue, stating that for the rest of my life

> the following are imperative and non-negotiable:

> ć Sleep between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. During this time the

> adrenals rejuvenate themselves twice. If you stay up between these

> times, your adrenals miss out on this repair¡K.obviously, I¡¦m not

> following doctor¡¦s orders right now!

> ć Eat protein and fats at every meal to regulate blood sugar.

> Absolutely no delaying or skipping meals because even if you delay

> and then eat, it¡¦s too late¡Kyour adrenals have already suffered.

> ć Moderate exercise 30-45 minutes 4-5 times per week because it

> strengthens the adrenals as long as you aren¡¦t pushing yourself too

> hard.

> ć DAILY stress management in the form of meditation, prayer,

> yoga, listening to music, resting, whatever brings you calm and

> peace. If you do this your adrenals are able to tolerate the

> everyday stressors encountered by all.

>

> He put me on 30 mg of Armour twice daily for thyroid even though my

> antibodies and T3 are very close to normal.

>

> He is ordering an infrared imaging (thermography) scan due to the

> burning sensation I¡¦ve been having in my arm. He said this will pick

> up on any inflammation that a blood test may miss and is better than

> a CT scan or MRI because of radiation side effects. He also wants it

> of my whole body to check any undetected dental problems (something

> they see frequently when everything else seems normal) and breasts

> and back.

>

> He told me to hold back on the carrots as I¡¦m turning orange¡K

> seriously, my palms look as if I have a really awful fake tan!!

>

> Lastly, I had Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) to alleviate my fears

> about the chelation process, future, etc. My EFT therapist had

> mercury toxicity so badly, he was seizing from it. It¡¦s a comfort to

> know he has regained his health and more from the situation! Love, PH

>

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Hi PH. I've been doing oral chelation with DMSA for mercury. My

levels were in extremely high range (at end of page) .. at 61. I was

quite worried about possible side effects, etc. before starting. I did

have one bout of nausea in the middle of the 2nd night of first dose.

I'm taking for 3 nights then 11 nights off.

Other than that one reaction, I've generally felt better on the days I

take the DMSA. Things look and feel clearer.

As I understand, you need to watch out for yeast when on the DMSA as

the sulphur can trigger yeast growth. So, I'd keep up the anti-yeast

diet, probiotics, etc. while doing the DMSA.

Good luck,

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A flow chart is an excellent idea!

Dr. Kolb has a " silicone protocol " that we've sometimes referred to,

but it doesn't have an order either....it's just a bunch of

recommendations regarding supplements and diet that some women find

very hard to follow.

I think the best we can do at this point is to list all the areas of

detox that could be addressed, and put them in the most common sense

order. However, even doctors have differing opinions on all this

stuff (for example, chelation therapy is fraught with differing

opinions on how to administer), so I think the best we could is

a " pick and choose " list similar to what we have listed in our files

section right now, with highlights on the main areas that must be

addressed.

Or, there are plenty of good books out there now on detoxing, some

offering a step by step approach that may be worth checking out,such

as the " 7 Day Detox Miracle " .

I certainly wished this were more systematic! It would have save me

lots of time in research! But with every woman at a different level

of illness and comfort level (some women refuse to even consider

doing a coffee enema), I guess the best we can do is make suggestions

and keep plugging away. Maybe PH can help us put together a flow

chart based on the procedures used at Dr. Mercola's clinic? PH, do

you think you'll be up for that someday?

I want to point again something that PH said...VERY IMPORTANT!!!

If you have ADRENAL ISSUES you need to avoid GLUTEN whether you test

positive for gluten intolerance or not!

I think we are all just alot better off without gluten!

Patty

> >

> > So are we supposed to treat these things in this order?

> > 1. Adrenals

> > 2. Metals

> > 3. Fungus (yeast)

> >

> > There was a post before about getting the metals out before

> treating the yeast/ fungus, but now it sounds like we are supposed

to

> fix the adrenals before doing other stuff. Are these the three main

> things, or is there more?

> >

> > What about parasites and bacteria? Is there a recommended order

to

> getting rid of all this stuff?

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Good grief girl! You've got it bad!

YOu need Appleton's book " Lick the Sugar Habit " . Get a copy

and start girl! Don't wait until after the holidays!

Patty

>

> I know that you're right. I know I have to give up the sweets.

>

> My typical breakfast at home - 5:00 a.m.- is a handful of

Grasshopper cookies and Jelly Bellies. Then I come to work and get

more stuff. (bagels, biscuits, or oatmeal). I eat candy throughout

the day. I crave sugar at night before I go to bed, so I find

whatever I can to satisfy the craving (ice cream, cookies, candy,

etc.) I know it's the wrong thing to do as I'm lying in bed getting

cookie crumbs everywhere, but it feels like an addiction. I have a

bag of Jelly Bellies next to my bed right now, and I ate some last

night right before going to sleep. People have often commented to

me, " How can you eat that at this time of the morning??? " in regards

to my candy habit.

>

> I've got to give it up though. This might be the hardest thing I've

ever done. I've tried many times before, but I can barely make it a

few hours.

>

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> Ballerina . ..

>

> Since you've been craving sweets for so long, I suspect you have

absolutely no idea how good it feels to be truly well! . . .

>

> It's going to be tough breaking the sugar habit because all these

yeasties will go into panic mode! . . .

>

> However, you have sooooooooooo much to look forward to when you get

that stuff under control.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

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Hi Patty,

I can't tell you what a comfort it was to read your email! Although

part of me was confident in what they were prescribing, I was a

little confused. Mercola used to give the DMPS IVs to patients

because he felt that was the most effective. Since he left though,

the staff told me they started using DMSA because they felt it was

easier for them as well as the patients (didn't have to monitor

kidneys and liver function). I wasn't sure if somehow I was

compromising my treatment in order to make it easier on the staff.

Based on what you say and did, though, I think I'm on the right

track...thanks for describing your experience! I haven't read a

whole lot about the various chelation agents because everytime I did,

I got scared. Your story eases my mind.

How great that you were able to email Andy Cutler. Mercola's office

actually recommended I read his book, Amalgam Illness, too, and go to

his website www.noamalgam.com

You're right when you say this is a much bigger issue than yeast.

Mercola's office says anytime someone has a yeast problem, it's a red

flag that something bigger is going on in the body. They feel yeast

grows as a way to line and protect the gut/organs from more dangerous

toxins but ends up creating additional problems.

I can't wait to get started on all this no matter how bad it makes me

feel! I'm just glad that I finally feel I'm on a more direct

path...thanks for helping get there. Love, PH

>

> Hi All,

>

> I just returned from Mercola¡¦s and wanted to share his staff's

> suggestions:

>

> I am relieved as well as totally confused when the doc went over my

> stool and urine tests, they were negative for yeast, fungus,

> bacteria, parasites, etc!! I guess my strictness with the diet and

> antifungals is paying off. Although he did say that yeast and fungi

> can sometimes be missed in the stool, yet my urine didn't show any

> markers either, so he doesn't see yeast as an issue for me. I'm

> still going to stay away from sugar based on what Patty, Lynda and

> Rogene have said.

>

> He thinks my bloating may be related to a high cortisol level from

> mercury. I was so happy to see that I have a healthy level of

> acidophilus (beneficial bacteria) as last year my stool results

> showed absolutely zero for anything good.so the probiotics really

> work!

>

> He said that in his experience, when someone has odd symptoms yet

> blood, stool, and urine are negative, it's generally some kind of

> poisoning. Given that I have high mercury he suggested oral

> chelation using DMSA to detoxify the tissues and alpha lipoic acid

> for detoxing the brain. Patty, I don't remember if you did DMPS or

> DMSA? What was your experience like? Oral or IV? He said to wait

> til after the holidays, as I may feel worse.

>

> He also said that no amount of fasting or perfect diet will heal you

> if you have heavy metals. Fasting is good for eliminating chemicals

> and fungus but not for metals. He said it¡¦s extremely important

> when

> using a far infrared sauna or ionic foot bath to be taking in a lot

> of fiber. No matter what kind of detox you do, much of the toxins

> still travel to the colon and the best way to get rid of them is

with

> lots of fiber and water.

>

> Even though I feel as though I'¦m dying almost every minute of the

> day, I only have Stage 1 Adrenal Fatigue which is good because they

> said my adrenals can bounce back from Stage 1 in 3-12 months. My

> cortisol is still at a high level but it is no longer so deviated

> from the norm so I can safely begin detoxs in a few weeks.

>

> I am going to take pregnenelone and DHEA in the form of sublingual

> drops to strengthen the adrenals. He also gave me Seraphos to lower

> the cortisol. He said these hormones will trick the brain into its

> normal routine and after 3-12 months I can wean myself off them.

>

> He went over adrenal fatigue, stating that for the rest of my life

> the following are imperative and non-negotiable:

> ć Sleep between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. During this time the

> adrenals rejuvenate themselves twice. If you stay up between these

> times, your adrenals miss out on this repair¡K.obviously, I¡¦m not

> following doctor¡¦s orders right now!

> ć Eat protein and fats at every meal to regulate blood sugar.

> Absolutely no delaying or skipping meals because even if you delay

> and then eat, it¡¦s too late¡Kyour adrenals have already suffered.

> ć Moderate exercise 30-45 minutes 4-5 times per week because it

> strengthens the adrenals as long as you aren¡¦t pushing yourself too

> hard.

> ć DAILY stress management in the form of meditation, prayer,

> yoga, listening to music, resting, whatever brings you calm and

> peace. If you do this your adrenals are able to tolerate the

> everyday stressors encountered by all.

>

> He put me on 30 mg of Armour twice daily for thyroid even though my

> antibodies and T3 are very close to normal.

>

> He is ordering an infrared imaging (thermography) scan due to the

> burning sensation I¡¦ve been having in my arm. He said this will

> pick

> up on any inflammation that a blood test may miss and is better than

> a CT scan or MRI because of radiation side effects. He also wants it

> of my whole body to check any undetected dental problems (something

> they see frequently when everything else seems normal) and breasts

> and back.

>

> He told me to hold back on the carrots as I'm turning orange¡K

> seriously, my palms look as if I have a really awful fake tan!!

>

> Lastly, I had Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) to alleviate my

fears

> about the chelation process, future, etc. My EFT therapist had

> mercury toxicity so badly, he was seizing from it. It's a comfort

> to

> know he has regained his health and more from the situation! Love,

PH

>

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all the posts the last couple days...what's going on with you and your

dad? What are the plans for the holidays? Thinking of you...Love, PH

>

> PH ~

> Hey girl, sounds like you are getting

> somewhere with Mercola's staff's

> direction. This is wonderful.

> Isnt it nice to find out that all you have

> been doing has worked and you have

> a nice balance inside your intestines

> now? Wonderful ! You are in my

> prayers girl !

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Hi Ballerina,

Yes, that's the sequence that Mercola recommends. He says it's more

difficult for the body to do it's job when the adrenals are weak.

That's why the accumulation of toxins builds up in the first place.

The body naturally knows how to detox, yet if there's a toxic

overload (implants), the adrenals become stressed from too many

toxins. Because the adrenals are stressed, elimination becomes more

difficult and toxins build, which further stresses the adrenals...a

vicious cycle!

If you try to detox heavily in the beginning, the adrenals may suffer

because toxins come out of hiding and circulate all over, causing

stress. He believes " Slow and steady wins the race. " ...start w/

adrenals, then metals, then yeast.

You can still work on the yeast at the same time as the adrenals but

his staff says that yeast will never be under total control until

metals are removed. Obviously, based on my improved stool results, I

was able to get rid of some yeast even while I had metals, but I

think sticking to the diet is necessary even after I rid my body of

the metals as much as I can.

Yes, those are the three main things, but along the way, rebuilding

the immune system is also necessary through a pure diet, meaning no

processed foods, no sugar and no gluten...adding in the proper

supplements, etc.

Gluten is found in all breads and most cereals. It's the stuff in

pancakes, muffins, cakes, cookies, etc that hold the stuff

together...kind of like the glue so that the cake doesn't fall

apart. It's also found in many grains and additives. According to

Mercola, it's extremely hard on the adrenals because humans don't

know how to digest it. So it stays in the gut, creating damage to

the lining which then leads to malabsorption which then leads to

deficiencies causing immune problems. If you have Scandanavian,

Irish, or English heritage you are at an even greater risk for being

gluten sensitive...although Mercola believes it's dangerous for

everyone.

Hope this answers your questions! Love, PH

>

> So are we supposed to treat these things in this order?

> 1. Adrenals

> 2. Metals

> 3. Fungus (yeast)

>

> There was a post before about getting the metals out before

treating the yeast/ fungus, but now it sounds like we are supposed to

fix the adrenals before doing other stuff. Are these the three main

things, or is there more?

>

> What about parasites and bacteria? Is there a recommended order to

getting rid of all this stuff?

>

> Where does gluten play into this? What is gluten anyway? I'm so

confused!

>

>

>

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Ballerina,

I'm totally serious! Every time she goes through, she sets it off.

They bring her aside, use that long paddle that they swipe over her

entire body and it always beeps like crazy at her feet. It's

weird...and ridiculous...she's such an innocent looking person yet

they act like she's some criminal! - PH

>

> Were you joking about your sister setting off the metal detectors

or serious?

>

>

> Re: Mercola Update

>

> Hi Rogene,

> I know what you mean about sleep! For years prior to explant I

would

> be wiped out at 9 but avoid going to bed. By 10 or 11 I'd be wired

> and then when I finally hit the pillow...forget it...I'd toss and

> turn! I never realized the impact sleep has on our health.

>

> I hope you're right about the mercury being easy to fix. It scares

> me though. My doc said it could take months or possibly years to

> detox. My grandma had Alzheimer's and tons of heavy metals were

> found in her brain at autopsy. My sis has Grave's (hyperthyroidism)

> and has so many heavy metals that she sets off the alarm every time

> she goes through airport security! There is just something about

our

> family and metals.

>

> I know most women with implant illness also have heavy metal issues

> but I don't remember you mentioning them personally. Did you have

> yours checked or did you get well w/o going that route?

>

> Hope you're doing ok. I'm so far behind on all the posts! Love, PH

>

> --- In , saxony01 <saxony01@ .>

wrote:

> >

> > PH . . .

> >

> > I know you still feel awful, but this sounds like a very good

> report! . . .

> >

> > If Mercury is the only reason you're feeling so bad, that should

be

> relatively easy to fix. . .

> >

> > I'm so glad you saw Mercola's clinic! . . . They are eliminating

> most issues and pinpointing some others . . .

> >

> > I need to get to sleep earlier too! . . . The neurologist who

Dx'd

> me with FM said the same thing about sleep.

> >

> > I've never been one to go to sleep early! Ugh!

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Oh, Rogene, stuff like this makes me so mad!!! Of course, had I

known all this about platinum and the other dangerous chemicals and

metals in implants, I wouldn't have even considered implants. I

makes me sick to think of all the people being harmed.

I'm learning so much about amalgams as well...and here's the really

tricky/emotional/sad part for me...I wasn't going to tell the group,

but well...my dad is the one who put my amalgams in. Based on what

he learned in dental school and what the ADA presents to him, he felt

it was the right thing to do for me when I was a child. He's the

type who would never intentionally harm anyone, no matter what. Yet,

I also think with the amount of brainwashing that's occurred over the

years, he's still skeptical. In the late 80's he stopped using

amalgams, but the way the ADA presented it was not that they were

harmful, but that composite resins were the way to go because they

look more like natural teeth! Seriously, even with the resins, who

knows how safe they are?

My dad knows I have mercury toxicity yet I don't think he fully

believes it's from my amalgams, and honestly, his mind probably

wouldn't let him believe that because it'd be too painful! So on top

of what I've been dealing with physically, there is a huge emotional

component as well. Mercola's office said they detect mercury from

vaccines in me as well...so who knows. I think it's from multiple

sources but based on what I've read, amalgams are one of the biggest

sources. I'm not blaming my dad yet it has definitely been tense in

many ways. Sometimes I think if I had some mainstream illness, it'd

be so much easier! Yet, I think we're pioneers for what is soon

becoming all too common! Love, PH

>

> PH . . .

>

> The main purpose of Ionic foot baths is to remove heavy metals. . .

FAR infrared saunas and detox foot pads pull heavy metals too.

>

> www.ionicoasis.com has an excellent chart showing the roles metals

play in our bodies. They have someone the are referring people to for

heavy metals testing . . . I've thought about doing the testing, but

haven't yet.

>

> I only recently learned that fungal organisms encourage fungal

growth. It makes sense!

>

> We've known for a long time that platinum is used as a catalyst to

turn liquid silicone into a semi-solid. . . As implants break down,

platinum is released and gets distributed throughout the body. . .

The form of this platinum, ionized, is one of the most potent

neurotoxins known to man. . . The manufacturer's are very cagey about

the amount of platinum used . . . and the FDA isn't providing

information about permissible levels. (NONE)

>

> What is unbelievable, is that we have a copy of an order, signed

years ago by a federal judge, sealing the science proves platinum in

breast implants is a serious health problem. . . Platinum crosses the

placental barrier and affects the offspring of implanted women. . .

The FDA knows this! . . . Keeling was instrumental in getting

study done proving that the offspring had dangerous levels of

platinum. Even before Dr. Lykissa's study was published, " the powers

that be " were publishing rebuttals to his study, dissing him " . . .

His responses were never acknowledged. This kind of action is unique!

>

> The FDA has known that mercury used in dental fillings is bad

too . . . Still, they drag their feet about taking action.

>

> There's something very evil going on here . . . It's been going on

for years. . . It makes some people very wealthy, resulting in much

suffering - and death. When, how this is going to be set right, is

anybodies guess! . . . What it's going to take is demanding that our

Government quit being the government of special interests groups and

start representing its citizens.

>

> I'm rambling . . . but this is something everyone should consider

as they look at the candidates running for president . . . Ask

yourself, who is financing them? . . . Follow the money and you'll

find out whose president he/she will be.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ballerina,

You could do a hair analysis for heavy metals. Blood is not as

accurate because metals tend to accumulate in tissues. Even hair

isn't completely accurate since it only shows what's being excreted

and not what's still inside...yet it can alert you if something does

come up high. I used Doctor's Data lab. Any naturopath would be

able to point you in the right direction...and if you color your

hair, you have to use your pubic hair...took me forever to grow out

enough!!

You could definitely try to start eliminating the yeast but as I

posted just a few minutes ago, as long as you have metals, yeast will

probably be a problem for you...and girl, I just read about your

sugar cravings!! Wow, you have it bad!! Seriously though, once you

eliminate it for a while, you don't even miss it. I miss the freedom

of being able to eat what I want, but I don't necessarily miss the

sugar itself. Your body adapts. Love, PH

> >

> > So are we supposed to treat these things in this order?

> > 1. Adrenals

> > 2. Metals

> > 3. Fungus (yeast)

> >

> > There was a post before about getting the metals out before

> treating the yeast/ fungus, but now it sounds like we are supposed

to

> fix the adrenals before doing other stuff. Are these the three main

> things, or is there more?

> >

> > What about parasites and bacteria? Is there a recommended order

to

> getting rid of all this stuff?

> >

> > Where does gluten play into this? What is gluten anyway? I'm so

> confused!

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: Mercola Update

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Hi ,

Thanks so much for describing your treatment. It makes it easier on

me knowing what to expect. Mercola recommends a similar schedule of

3 days on, 7-10 days off. Did your doctor tell you how long you'd be

on this protocol? I'll be checked again after 6 months to make sure

it's working. He said it could take months or it could take years.

Oh, he also put me on Alpha Lipoic Acid but I won't take that for a

couple months. Supposedly ALA is what detoxes the mercury from the

brain. Are you doing that as well?

Thanks for the advice about continuing with the probiotics and yeast-

free diet while doing DMSA. I'll be sure to do that! Love, PH

--- In , " vioneering " <marygatch@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi PH. I've been doing oral chelation with DMSA for mercury. My

> levels were in extremely high range (at end of page) .. at 61. I

was

> quite worried about possible side effects, etc. before starting. I

did

> have one bout of nausea in the middle of the 2nd night of first

dose.

> I'm taking for 3 nights then 11 nights off.

>

> Other than that one reaction, I've generally felt better on the

days I

> take the DMSA. Things look and feel clearer.

>

> As I understand, you need to watch out for yeast when on the DMSA

as

> the sulphur can trigger yeast growth. So, I'd keep up the anti-

yeast

> diet, probiotics, etc. while doing the DMSA.

>

> Good luck,

>

>

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Hi Patty and Ballerina,

I would love to create a flow chart as I learn more and become

healthier! I think that's a great idea, Ballerina. It is so

overwhelming knowing what to do first and I think that's part of the

reason I have hedged on starting certain therapies because I just

don't know if it's the right time. It's like I know I need to do

these things, but it seems so huge because I don't know the timing of

it all.

You're right though, Patty, to some extent it is very individualized

because each person's chemistry is somewhat different and it seems

like we all have a unique situation going on, on top of all the

commonalities. Like some of us have parasites, some mycoplasmas,

some EBV, etc, etc. Also, most NDs have their own ideas about what

areas to detox first and that's why all this is so overwhelming.

I used to spend hours at curezone.com trying to figure out if I

should do a liver flush or a kidney flush or a colonic or parasite

cleanse first...it became so overwhelming because there were a

thousand different opinions! Each time I found myself coming back

here, getting more direct, consistent information.

Maybe in the longrun it doesn't make that much difference what organ

is cleansed first, but that we just need a basic detoxing plan for

the members to follow. I think it would alleviate a lot of stress,

especially seeing a simple visual/graphic of some type...especially

with all the brain fog! They could take this overall game plan and

work with their NDs to fine tune anything specific to their needs or

their docs preferences and share with the group.

Mercola gave me a few very easy charts regarding the adrenals that

would be great for our files section. I just don't know about

copyright laws and all that...or even how to post in the files

section, but we could come up with something. The thing is, though,

I know our Files, Links and Database have a wealth of info but for

some reason I always forget to check it!!! Anyway, great idea Patty

and Ballerina. I'm happy to do it. Love, PH

> > >

> > > So are we supposed to treat these things in this order?

> > > 1. Adrenals

> > > 2. Metals

> > > 3. Fungus (yeast)

> > >

> > > There was a post before about getting the metals out before

> > treating the yeast/ fungus, but now it sounds like we are

supposed

> to

> > fix the adrenals before doing other stuff. Are these the three

main

> > things, or is there more?

> > >

> > > What about parasites and bacteria? Is there a recommended order

> to

> > getting rid of all this stuff?

> > >

> > > Where does gluten play into this? What is gluten anyway? I'm so

> > confused!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Re: Mercola Update

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Hi Ballerina,

Yeah, I've already told my dad that my mercury is from multiple

sources but I think he's heard enough from the media, internet to

know the dangers of amalgams. Maybe he has changed his opinion about

them...I don't really know. We don't discuss it. My mom just called

and said that Dad sends the message that he loves me with all his

heart...that's the way my dad and I have always

communicated...through my mom. It's like we don't talk hardly at all

but it's very understood that there's a deep love there, which I am

grateful for. This whole thing is so hard on family though!!!

It's been a nightmare from the getgo because my parents didn't know

about my implants but knew I was sick. I thought it was my implants

but docs kept saying no. My whole family thought I had cancer based

on my symptoms. I knew it was the implants after finding Patty's

website, but even since then I think my parents still didn't think

that was the cause. I really don't get it! My parents are very

educated and even when I have presented all this information they

seem reluctant to embrace it. Going to Mercola's has helped in the

sense that his staff has MD's which my parents tend to place more

confidence in. Ballerina, you are so lucky and wise to have saved

yourself from this nightmare!! Love, PH

>

> I feel so bad about this, for you and your dad. Maybe if he knew

for sure that you don't blame him at all- whether your toxicity is or

isn't due in any part to the amalgams- that might lessen the strain

for him and the tenseness between you. He still might blame himself

(even if he's only 1% convinced the amalgams could be a cause) but as

long as he knew YOU didn't blame him- no matter what the cause for

your toxicity- that might make him feel better.

>

>

> Re: Mercola Update

>

> Oh, Rogene, stuff like this makes me so mad!!! Of course, had I

> known all this about platinum and the other dangerous chemicals and

> metals in implants, I wouldn't have even considered implants. I

> makes me sick to think of all the people being harmed.

>

> I'm learning so much about amalgams as well...and here's the really

> tricky/emotional/ sad part for me...I wasn't going to tell the

group,

> but well...my dad is the one who put my amalgams in. Based on what

> he learned in dental school and what the ADA presents to him, he

felt

> it was the right thing to do for me when I was a child. He's the

> type who would never intentionally harm anyone, no matter what.

Yet,

> I also think with the amount of brainwashing that's occurred over

the

> years, he's still skeptical. In the late 80's he stopped using

> amalgams, but the way the ADA presented it was not that they were

> harmful, but that composite resins were the way to go because they

> look more like natural teeth! Seriously, even with the resins, who

> knows how safe they are?

>

> My dad knows I have mercury toxicity yet I don't think he fully

> believes it's from my amalgams, and honestly, his mind probably

> wouldn't let him believe that because it'd be too painful! So on

top

> of what I've been dealing with physically, there is a huge

emotional

> component as well. Mercola's office said they detect mercury from

> vaccines in me as well...so who knows. I think it's from multiple

> sources but based on what I've read, amalgams are one of the

biggest

> sources. I'm not blaming my dad yet it has definitely been tense in

> many ways. Sometimes I think if I had some mainstream illness, it'd

> be so much easier! Yet, I think we're pioneers for what is soon

> becoming all too common! Love, PH

>

> --- In , saxony01 <saxony01@ .>

wrote:

> >

> > PH . . .

> >

> > The main purpose of Ionic foot baths is to remove heavy

metals. . .

> FAR infrared saunas and detox foot pads pull heavy metals too.

> >

> > www.ionicoasis. com has an excellent chart showing the roles

metals

> play in our bodies. They have someone the are referring people to

for

> heavy metals testing . . . I've thought about doing the testing,

but

> haven't yet.

> >

> > I only recently learned that fungal organisms encourage fungal

> growth. It makes sense!

> >

> > We've known for a long time that platinum is used as a catalyst

to

> turn liquid silicone into a semi-solid. . . As implants break down,

> platinum is released and gets distributed throughout the body. . .

> The form of this platinum, ionized, is one of the most potent

> neurotoxins known to man. . . The manufacturer' s are very cagey

about

> the amount of platinum used . . . and the FDA isn't providing

> information about permissible levels. (NONE)

> >

> > What is unbelievable, is that we have a copy of an order, signed

> years ago by a federal judge, sealing the science proves platinum

in

> breast implants is a serious health problem. . . Platinum crosses

the

> placental barrier and affects the offspring of implanted women. . .

> The FDA knows this! . . . Keeling was instrumental in

getting

> study done proving that the offspring had dangerous levels of

> platinum. Even before Dr. Lykissa's study was published, " the

powers

> that be " were publishing rebuttals to his study, dissing him " . . .

> His responses were never acknowledged. This kind of action is

unique!

> >

> > The FDA has known that mercury used in dental fillings is bad

> too . . . Still, they drag their feet about taking action.

> >

> > There's something very evil going on here . . . It's been going

on

> for years. . . It makes some people very wealthy, resulting in much

> suffering - and death. When, how this is going to be set right, is

> anybodies guess! . . . What it's going to take is demanding that

our

> Government quit being the government of special interests groups

and

> start representing its citizens.

> >

> > I'm rambling . . . but this is something everyone should consider

> as they look at the candidates running for president . . . Ask

> yourself, who is financing them? . . . Follow the money and you'll

> find out whose president he/she will be.

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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You're wonderful! This is going to be very helpful! Thank you PH!!

Patty

> > > >

> > > > So are we supposed to treat these things in this order?

> > > > 1. Adrenals

> > > > 2. Metals

> > > > 3. Fungus (yeast)

> > > >

> > > > There was a post before about getting the metals out before

> > > treating the yeast/ fungus, but now it sounds like we are

> supposed

> > to

> > > fix the adrenals before doing other stuff. Are these the three

> main

> > > things, or is there more?

> > > >

> > > > What about parasites and bacteria? Is there a recommended

order

> > to

> > > getting rid of all this stuff?

> > > >

> > > > Where does gluten play into this? What is gluten anyway? I'm

so

> > > confused!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Re: Mercola Update

> > > >

> > > > Recent Activity

> > > > 5New Members

> > > > 3New Links

> > > > Visit Your Group

> > > >

> > > > A family Group

> > > > to share and learn

> > > > about healthy eating.

> > > > Health

> > > > Live Better Longer

> > > > Find new ways

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[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene,

I know exactly what you mean about having the FEELING of being drawn

to what you need to do at a certain time. To me our intuition is the

Holy Spirit speaking to us and guiding us. Most of my life I

listened to my intuition, confident that it was my guide. In fact,

before I was ill I was very confident in my perceptions and

knowingness. I didn't take long to make decisions because my gut

told me instantly.

Once ill though, that all flew out the window! I think having 20

docs telling me " No, you're fine. You're normal. It's all in your

head. It's not related. There's nothing wrong with you. " etc.,

caused me to doubt myself and my intuition to where I didn't know

what was up or down!

What you say doesn't seem weird to me at all. Yes, I know God is

with me and I truly believe He led me to Mercola because he knows

that's what I personally needed. I needed the kind of guidance that

I would be satisfied with...someone who was strong in their

convictions of how to proceed and that's definitely what I'm

getting. The docs here in St. Louis were nice and knew much of the

same stuff as Mercola, but seemed unsure of the whole implant thing.

I think too, the fact that my EFT therapist had suffered terrible

mercury toxicity is a plus too...to me it's a gift from God that I

was put in his path. I mean, what are the odds?!

You're right, I know I need to turn things over to God, and that's

what I pray for all the time, but then 20 minutes later I realize I

must not have turned things over to Him, because I'm worrying about

the future or doubting what I'm eating or...the list goes on and

on!!!

Anyway, thanks for all your advice. The other day I was thinking

about how hard it must have been for you when you were sick and

didn't have this forum. When you tell me not to stress, and to just

be patient, it calms me immensely...so thanks!! Love, PH

>

> PH . . .

>

> I know it's confusing . . . and the more we learn, the more

confusing it becomes.

>

> For myself, I turned things over to God a long time ago . . .

Seriously!

>

> This might sound terribly weird to someone who hasn't experienced

this . . . but the longer I follow this path, the more convinced I am

that God has been holding my hand the entire way.

>

> There are therapies that I FEEL drawn to doing . . . those I do

when I FEEL it's time to do them. . . .Others that I believe are

beneficial treatments that I not FEEL those are right for me - at

least at that time. I don't do them unless/until I FEEL it's time.

>

> I've experienced many Ah-hah moments where something suddenly

becomes crystal clear. . . Everything that comes in those moments has

turned out to be right for me.

>

> God helps all who ask for help. . . It's all so simple . . and all

so true.

>

> There's no need to get flustered about what to do . . . Just trust

that you will know when something is right for you and when you

should do it. Stressing over this stuff gets in the way of deciding

what to do.

>

> You've been doing a great job of taking control of your health,

making good decisions and sticking to your program. . . Now all you

need is some more patience so your body has time to complete it's

remodeling job. I know you will know what you need to do.

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene,

I guess I didn't word things the way I meant to convey...I've been on

antifungals from the very beginning and Mercola has supported that to

some degree. What I was trying to say is that they told me that as

long as I have the heavy metals and poor adrenals, my body will have

a harder time trying to eliminate the yeast and other toxins. That's

why they have me focus on adrenals first, heavy metals second and

then the fungus is addressed specifically. I've been on Nystatin for

months now but that's through a former doc. Mercola suggested I stop

taking it for now, but everytime I do my " aquarium-like " vision

returns.

Actually, the very first step they had me do was diet and probiotics,

so in that sense, the yeast is being addressed from the getgo by

eliminating sugar, eating more garlic, onions and taking probiotics.

Of course, the diet and probiotics continue for the rest of the

patient's life.

I don't doubt that some women have recovered from this through diet,

detox and stress management without addressing metals and adrenals,

but I think all Mercola is saying is that he believes this sequence

is safer for the adrenals and therefore possibly more efficent.

Honestly, though, who knows. Everywhere you turn there seems to be a

differing opinion regarding what to do and truthfully, I'm not sure

anyone has the exact answer. Like you said, a lot of it has to do

with patience and faith. Love, PH

>

> PH,

>

> I know Mercola's clinic is the " expert " . . . But I don't feel that

what they are saying is quite right. . . We've had many women get

much better after getting their diet and yeast issues under control

without addressing heavy metals or adrenal issues . . . .

>

> Maybe they didn't have adrenal or heavy metal issues . . . but I

suspect most of them did. I'm inclined to think that, for many, the

adrenals respond to treating fungal issues, healthy diet, sleep,

moderate exercise and stress management. . . Basically what they told

you to do. . . even if they didn't address heavy metals directly.

>

> Personally, if I had big fungal issue, I wouldn't hold off treating

it until I removed heavy metals or checked out adrenal issues. . . .

I'd want to address it all as quickly as possible.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn,

Dr. Kolb had me do mine. She gave me the kit and then I mailed it

off and she called me with the results a week later. The one I did

was through Doctor's Data. Any naturopath can get one for you as I'm

pretty sure Doctor's Data has to go through a doc.

There are probably kits out there you can order and do yourself w/o a

dr, but there are all kinds of labs out there that aren't necessarily

reliable. When talking with my holistic dentist about it, he said to

make sure you choose a reputable lab. I don't remember the other

ones he recommended, but he did say that Doctor's Data was reliable.

Love, PH

> >

> > Hi PH. I've been doing oral chelation with DMSA for mercury. My

> > levels were in extremely high range (at end of page) .. at 61. I

> was

> > quite worried about possible side effects, etc. before starting.

I

> did

> > have one bout of nausea in the middle of the 2nd night of first

> dose.

> > I'm taking for 3 nights then 11 nights off.

> >

> > Other than that one reaction, I've generally felt better on the

> days I

> > take the DMSA. Things look and feel clearer.

> >

> > As I understand, you need to watch out for yeast when on the DMSA

> as

> > the sulphur can trigger yeast growth. So, I'd keep up the anti-

> yeast

> > diet, probiotics, etc. while doing the DMSA.

> >

> > Good luck,

> >

> >

>