Guest guest Posted December 13, 2007 Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 PH, It maybe too late for me since it has been going on for 3 years? Well I hope not... Guess anything is worth a try... Thanks for writing back.. ~See AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 ,Quick . . . check to see if you have a pulse and are breathing . . . You are? . . . Great! Then it's not too late!You've already come a long way since you first came to the group! . . . Just keep on keeping on 'til you get there!It's wonderful having you back!Hugs and prayers,Rogene Re: Re: Mercola Update PH, It maybe too late for me since it has been going on for 3 years? Well I hope not... Guess anything is worth a try... Thanks for writing back.. ~See AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 So are we supposed to treat these things in this order? 1. Adrenals 2. Metals 3. Fungus (yeast) There was a post before about getting the metals out before treating the yeast/ fungus, but now it sounds like we are supposed to fix the adrenals before doing other stuff. Are these the three main things, or is there more? What about parasites and bacteria? Is there a recommended order to getting rid of all this stuff? Where does gluten play into this? What is gluten anyway? I'm so confused! Re: Mercola Update Recent Activity 5 New Members 3 New LinksVisit Your Group A family Group to share and learn about healthy eating. Health Live Better Longer Find new ways to stay healthy. Search Start Searching Find exactly what you want. .. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 Were you joking about your sister setting off the metal detectors or serious? Re: Mercola Update Hi Rogene,I know what you mean about sleep! For years prior to explant I would be wiped out at 9 but avoid going to bed. By 10 or 11 I'd be wired and then when I finally hit the pillow...forget it...I'd toss and turn! I never realized the impact sleep has on our health.I hope you're right about the mercury being easy to fix. It scares me though. My doc said it could take months or possibly years to detox. My grandma had Alzheimer's and tons of heavy metals were found in her brain at autopsy. My sis has Grave's (hyperthyroidism) and has so many heavy metals that she sets off the alarm every time she goes through airport security! There is just something about our family and metals.I know most women with implant illness also have heavy metal issues but I don't remember you mentioning them personally. Did you have yours checked or did you get well w/o going that route?Hope you're doing ok. I'm so far behind on all the posts! Love, PH>> PH . . .> > I know you still feel awful, but this sounds like a very good report! . . . > > If Mercury is the only reason you're feeling so bad, that should be relatively easy to fix. . . > > I'm so glad you saw Mercola's clinic! . . . They are eliminating most issues and pinpointing some others . . . > > I need to get to sleep earlier too! . . . The neurologist who Dx'd me with FM said the same thing about sleep.> > I've never been one to go to sleep early! Ugh!> > Hugs,> > Rogene> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 PH . . . The main purpose of Ionic foot baths is to remove heavy metals. . . FAR infrared saunas and detox foot pads pull heavy metals too.www.ionicoasis.com has an excellent chart showing the roles metals play in our bodies. They have someone the are referring people to for heavy metals testing . . . I've thought about doing the testing, but haven't yet. I only recently learned that fungal organisms encourage fungal growth. It makes sense!We've known for a long time that platinum is used as a catalyst to turn liquid silicone into a semi-solid. . . As implants break down, platinum is released and gets distributed throughout the body. . . The form of this platinum, ionized, is one of the most potent neurotoxins known to man. . . The manufacturer's are very cagey about the amount of platinum used . . . and the FDA isn't providing information about permissible levels. (NONE)What is unbelievable, is that we have a copy of an order, signed years ago by a federal judge, sealing the science proves platinum in breast implants is a serious health problem. . . Platinum crosses the placental barrier and affects the offspring of implanted women. . . The FDA knows this! . . . Keeling was instrumental in getting study done proving that the offspring had dangerous levels of platinum. Even before Dr. Lykissa's study was published, "the powers that be" were publishing rebuttals to his study, dissing him" . . . His responses were never acknowledged. This kind of action is unique! The FDA has known that mercury used in dental fillings is bad too . . . Still, they drag their feet about taking action.There's something very evil going on here . . . It's been going on for years. . . It makes some people very wealthy, resulting in much suffering - and death. When, how this is going to be set right, is anybodies guess! . . . What it's going to take is demanding that our Government quit being the government of special interests groups and start representing its citizens. I'm rambling . . . but this is something everyone should consider as they look at the candidates running for president . . . Ask yourself, who is financing them? . . . Follow the money and you'll find out whose president he/she will be.Hugs,Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 Ballerina . . . How's your ear doing? . . . I think I would stop the elevator every few floors to allow your ear to adjust! Sure to make a lot of people happy! Mine has been doing better and better the past few days. I'm using Castor oil as an ear drop and taking Mycoplex and Puricell. The drainage has stopped for the first time in months! Pain is all but gone. Changing elevations still brings that on.I'm not a doctor . . . but from what I've seen, getting ones diet in order is where you start. . . Until the digestive system is functioning properly, you really can't tell much about what else is going on . . . Eliminating fungus plays a huge role in a healthy digestive system. . . Adrenal function is big issue too . . . but if the digestive system is functioning properly, it may improve . . . If not, one needs to get it checked out and take action. As I see it, the adrenals take a beating when one has been ill for a long time . . . Eventually they wear out. Heavy metals are a problem for everyone. . . You can't help but notice how much emphasis they are putting on the amount of lead on items coming from China . . . It's all over the place! . . . We're all exposed . . . Arsenic is in the water in a number of areas. . rather than take action, the feds raise the allowable levels! . . . Mercury has contaminated the oceans . . . We get it in the fish we eat, as well as from fillings and other sources. They've been using mercury in vaccinations given infants. Is this crazy? . . . I think so! . . . . . Since we can't avoid it, the best we can do is to remove as much as possible from our bodies. As to gluten . . . about 20% of the population has Celiac disease . . . Most of them don't know it. Gluten is found in some grains - most especially wheat. If one is gluten sensitive, the intestinal villi become damaged, preventing them from absorbing nutrients. In Italy, all newborns are tested at birth. . . Celiac is very manageable, but takes major effort to avoid gluten because it's found in so many processed foods. There's some thought that, if one is immune compromised that they will do better if they follow a gluten free diet too. Whether this is because of gluten itself, or if it's because most of our foods have had some genetic modification that makes today's gluten more of an issue, I don't know. I suspect genetic engineering may be the culprit.Hugs,Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 Thank you for the explanation. I thought there was a known order to doing these things. I read about adrenals & decided I don't think I have much of a problem there. Then I went to this website http://www.med-library.net/content/view/326/41/ and was again struck with what a major yeast problem I have. I was treated with Tofranil for years- this site actually names Tofranil (and other antibiotics) as culprit of yeast overgrowth. I'd wondered why people were mentioning antibiotics in a negative way on here. I'm still piecing everything together. Do you think the group will eventually put together a flow chart to detoxing? It would be interesting if there were a way for a woman to be able to figure out where on the chart she needed to start, and then go from there. I'm still trying to figure out if I have a metals problem or not, or if I should just jump straight into treating my yeast. I guess I'm kind of systematic sometimes. Maybe it just doesn't work that way. Re: Mercola Update> > Recent Activity> 5New Members> 3New Links> Visit Your Group > > A family Group> to share and learn> about healthy eating.> Health> Live Better Longer> Find new ways> to stay healthy.> Search> Start Searching > Find exactly> what you want.. > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _____________ __> Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile. / ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 Ballerina, Here is a list of cleanses I like to buy from Nature's sunshine. Some are pretty thorough with total body, candida, parasites, colon, the whole lot. Then they have specialized products for specific areas as well. Their products are great I have never been disappointed. Here are direct links to some of them. http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/products/catalog/product/default.aspx?stocknum=3993 http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/products/catalog/product/default.aspx?stocknum=4092 http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/products/catalog/product/default.aspx?stocknum=4081 http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/products/catalog/product/default.aspx?stocknum=507 http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/products/catalog/product/default.aspx?stocknum=3193 http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/products/catalog/product/default.aspx?stocknum=1839 http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/products/catalog/product/default.aspx?stocknum=874 http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/products/catalog/product/default.aspx?stocknum=1881 http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/products/catalog/product/default.aspx?stocknum=508 http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/products/catalog/product/default.aspx?stocknum=1010 Those are the main ones but if you go to the products list you can look them up by body system or go through the products A-Z. I know I will be buying all my cleanses from them. I trust their quality and potency. Hope this helps. glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: Ballerina,When we first started figuring out how to get better from implants, it was a collective effort to gather info as we heard from the ladies who were getting better. What became clear was that those who were doing natural medicine therapies were making the most strides. Those going to MD's and taking their smorgasboard of pretty pills didn't do so well. So, we knew we had to focus on detoxing and natural healing methods.However, we never did develop a step-by-step detox program, mainly because there are so many areas of focus (thyroid, adrenals, digestion, liver, kidney, rashes, food allergies, candida, heavy metals, etc.) and every woman chooses to treat in her own way. Generally, we just advise developing your own detox program, using the info we provide and doing what seems most comfortable to you, and what makes the most sense. We're not medical professionals (most of us aren't), so we can only make suggestions based on what worked for us. Everyone has different issues to focus on.PH has been sharing her experiences with Dr. Mercola's clinic. It's been good info! She's the expert there. It sounds like a good way to go. Gluten is a protein found in wheat, rye, barley and other grains. (So, it's in sooooo many things, even condiments.) When the human body becomes allergic to it, or has a genetic propensity for gluten intolerance, we may experience symptoms...and those symptoms vary from being overt to almost non-existent. But over time you can develop horrible digestive issues, lethargy, brain fog, and a host of other symptoms, which can eventually lead to cancer and crohn's disease if not attended to. Complete elimination of gluten becomes the rule. It's a hard diet to follow, because, as I said, gluten is in almost everything that is processed.Gluten plays a big role in this. Many implanted women develop food allergies whereas before they had none. Most women do not take this seriously, and if it is a neglected part of treatment, they can remain ill. I was one who was astounded to find out I had the gene for gluten intolerance! I had no digestive issues, but I had brain fog and other issues that seemed to take forever to go away. Every little bit of attention to detail in our healing process is important. You can be doing all the detoxing in the world, but if you keep eating gluten when you should not, you will not feel well. I know, because I've been there, done that.We all find our own way, but we've got the main principles down in this group. It's multi-faceted, but I think we got this thing by the tail. We DO get better!Patty>> So are we supposed to treat these things in this order?> 1. Adrenals> 2. Metals> 3. Fungus (yeast)> > There was a post before about getting the metals out before treating the yeast/ fungus, but now it sounds like we are supposed to fix the adrenals before doing other stuff. Are these the three main things, or is there more? > > What about parasites and bacteria? Is there a recommended order to getting rid of all this stuff?> > Where does gluten play into this? What is gluten anyway? I'm so confused!> > > > Re: Mercola Update> > Recent Activity> 5New Members> 3New Links> Visit Your Group > > A family Group> to share and learn> about healthy eating.> Health> Live Better Longer> Find new ways> to stay healthy.> Search> Start Searching > Find exactly> what you want.. > > > > ________________________________________________________________________> Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. 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Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 Ballerina . ..Since you've been craving sweets for so long, I suspect you have absolutely no idea how good it feels to be truly well! . . . It's going to be tough breaking the sugar habit because all these yeasties will go into panic mode! . . . However, you have sooooooooooo much to look forward to when you get that stuff under control.Hugs,Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 My ear is not throbbing as bad as it was a few days ago, but I haven't done anything for it yet. The pain has come and gone for 17 years, so I know this is just a temporary ebbing of the pain. As Schwarzeneggar said, (kind of), "IT WILL BE BACK". I haven't started the Allegra because I'm not sure I want to treat it that way (I'm anti-prescription drug right now, except for my Provigil for narcolepsy). I'm going to look into some of the things you suggested this weekend. I've noticed the pain gets worse with weather changes. My ear predicts rain better than the weatherman. Right now I'm just feeling my normal pain everywhere else- elbows, hands, shoulders, legs, feet, etc. If I can get rid of that pain (by detoxing/ getting rid of my fungus/ draining my metals/ etc.), I will probably drop dead from shock. I haven't been pain free since I was a teenager. (let's just say that was a LONG LONG time ago) The good thing about ballet is the muscular pain kind of masks the other pain. I don't even know if the other, constant, pain is muscular pain, joint pain, or something else. It's just always there. I always think it's normal and then other people tell me they don't have it. That must be nice! Re: Re: Mercola Update Ballerina . . . How's your ear doing? . . . I think I would stop the elevator every few floors to allow your ear to adjust! Sure to make a lot of people happy! Mine has been doing better and better the past few days. I'm using Castor oil as an ear drop and taking Mycoplex and Puricell. The drainage has stopped for the first time in months! Pain is all but gone. Changing elevations still brings that on.I'm not a doctor . . . but from what I've seen, getting ones diet in order is where you start. . . Until the digestive system is functioning properly, you really can't tell much about what else is going on . . . Eliminating fungus plays a huge role in a healthy digestive system. . . Adrenal function is big issue too . . . but if the digestive system is functioning properly, it may improve . . . If not, one needs to get it checked out and take action. As I see it, the adrenals take a beating when one has been ill for a long time . . . Eventually they wear out. Heavy metals are a problem for everyone. . . You can't help but notice how much emphasis they are putting on the amount of lead on items coming from China . . . It's all over the place! . . . We're all exposed . . . Arsenic is in the water in a number of areas. . rather than take action, the feds raise the allowable levels! . . .. Mercury has contaminated the oceans . . . We get it in the fish we eat, as well as from fillings and other sources. They've been using mercury in vaccinations given infants. Is this crazy? . . . I think so! . . . . . Since we can't avoid it, the best we can do is to remove as much as possible from our bodies. As to gluten . . . about 20% of the population has Celiac disease . . . Most of them don't know it. Gluten is found in some grains - most especially wheat. If one is gluten sensitive, the intestinal villi become damaged, preventing them from absorbing nutrients. In Italy, all newborns are tested at birth. . . Celiac is very manageable, but takes major effort to avoid gluten because it's found in so many processed foods. There's some thought that, if one is immune compromised that they will do better if they follow a gluten free diet too. Whether this is because of gluten itself, or if it's because most of our foods have had some genetic modification that makes today's gluten more of an issue, I don't know. I suspect genetic engineering may be the culprit.Hugs,Rogene Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 I know that you're right. I know I have to give up the sweets. My typical breakfast at home - 5:00 a.m.- is a handful of Grasshopper cookies and Jelly Bellies. Then I come to work and get more stuff. (bagels, biscuits, or oatmeal). I eat candy throughout the day. I crave sugar at night before I go to bed, so I find whatever I can to satisfy the craving (ice cream, cookies, candy, etc.) I know it's the wrong thing to do as I'm lying in bed getting cookie crumbs everywhere, but it feels like an addiction. I have a bag of Jelly Bellies next to my bed right now, and I ate some last night right before going to sleep. People have often commented to me, "How can you eat that at this time of the morning???" in regards to my candy habit. I've got to give it up though. This might be the hardest thing I've ever done. I've tried many times before, but I can barely make it a few hours. Re: Re: Mercola Update Ballerina . ..Since you've been craving sweets for so long, I suspect you have absolutely no idea how good it feels to be truly well! . . . It's going to be tough breaking the sugar habit because all these yeasties will go into panic mode! . . . However, you have sooooooooooo much to look forward to when you get that stuff under control.Hugs,Rogene Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 Ballerina,If you'll do something to get rid of fungal problems (Caprylic acid is great) and take probiotics (Garden of Life Fungal Defense) at the same time you rapidly cut back on sugar, those cravings won't be so bad. . . Still, it will take as long as three weeks to see real results. Refined grains have to go too . . . Whole grains are fine. If you'll plan a healthy diet . . . including a lot of veggies, by the time you eat as much healthy food as you need, your desire to snack on sweets should be manageable.You're in for a real thrill when you find out just how good feeling good can be! Seriously! You've probably felt bad for as long as you can remember! Thank God you're learning this before you develop a serious disease!Hugs,Rogene Re: Re: Mercola Update Ballerina . ..Since you've been craving sweets for so long, I suspect you have absolutely no idea how good it feels to be truly well! . . . It's going to be tough breaking the sugar habit because all these yeasties will go into panic mode! . . . However, you have sooooooooooo much to look forward to when you get that stuff under control.Hugs,Rogene Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 I feel so bad about this, for you and your dad. Maybe if he knew for sure that you don't blame him at all- whether your toxicity is or isn't due in any part to the amalgams- that might lessen the strain for him and the tenseness between you. He still might blame himself (even if he's only 1% convinced the amalgams could be a cause) but as long as he knew YOU didn't blame him- no matter what the cause for your toxicity- that might make him feel better. Re: Mercola Update Oh, Rogene, stuff like this makes me so mad!!! Of course, had I known all this about platinum and the other dangerous chemicals and metals in implants, I wouldn't have even considered implants. I makes me sick to think of all the people being harmed.I'm learning so much about amalgams as well...and here's the really tricky/emotional/ sad part for me...I wasn't going to tell the group, but well...my dad is the one who put my amalgams in. Based on what he learned in dental school and what the ADA presents to him, he felt it was the right thing to do for me when I was a child. He's the type who would never intentionally harm anyone, no matter what. Yet, I also think with the amount of brainwashing that's occurred over the years, he's still skeptical. In the late 80's he stopped using amalgams, but the way the ADA presented it was not that they were harmful, but that composite resins were the way to go because they look more like natural teeth! Seriously, even with the resins, who knows how safe they are?My dad knows I have mercury toxicity yet I don't think he fully believes it's from my amalgams, and honestly, his mind probably wouldn't let him believe that because it'd be too painful! So on top of what I've been dealing with physically, there is a huge emotional component as well. Mercola's office said they detect mercury from vaccines in me as well...so who knows. I think it's from multiple sources but based on what I've read, amalgams are one of the biggest sources. I'm not blaming my dad yet it has definitely been tense in many ways. Sometimes I think if I had some mainstream illness, it'd be so much easier! Yet, I think we're pioneers for what is soon becoming all too common! Love, PH>> PH . . . > > The main purpose of Ionic foot baths is to remove heavy metals. . . FAR infrared saunas and detox foot pads pull heavy metals too.> > www.ionicoasis. com has an excellent chart showing the roles metals play in our bodies. They have someone the are referring people to for heavy metals testing . . . I've thought about doing the testing, but haven't yet. > > I only recently learned that fungal organisms encourage fungal growth. It makes sense!> > We've known for a long time that platinum is used as a catalyst to turn liquid silicone into a semi-solid. . . As implants break down, platinum is released and gets distributed throughout the body. . . The form of this platinum, ionized, is one of the most potent neurotoxins known to man. . . The manufacturer' s are very cagey about the amount of platinum used . . . and the FDA isn't providing information about permissible levels. (NONE)> > What is unbelievable, is that we have a copy of an order, signed years ago by a federal judge, sealing the science proves platinum in breast implants is a serious health problem. . . Platinum crosses the placental barrier and affects the offspring of implanted women. . . The FDA knows this! . . . Keeling was instrumental in getting study done proving that the offspring had dangerous levels of platinum. Even before Dr. Lykissa's study was published, "the powers that be" were publishing rebuttals to his study, dissing him" . . . His responses were never acknowledged. This kind of action is unique! > > The FDA has known that mercury used in dental fillings is bad too . . . Still, they drag their feet about taking action.> > There's something very evil going on here . . . It's been going on for years. . . It makes some people very wealthy, resulting in much suffering - and death. When, how this is going to be set right, is anybodies guess! . . . What it's going to take is demanding that our Government quit being the government of special interests groups and start representing its citizens. > > I'm rambling . . . but this is something everyone should consider as they look at the candidates running for president . . . Ask yourself, who is financing them? . . . Follow the money and you'll find out whose president he/she will be.> > Hugs,> > Rogene> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 Rogene, Wow you are right I have come a long way.... Thanks for reminding me of that.... Some times we get sick of being sick... You have to put yourself back to how you felt with implants, then you think oh well life is not so bad today.. God Bless, ~See AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 PH . . . I know it's confusing . . . and the more we learn, the more confusing it becomes. For myself, I turned things over to God a long time ago . . . Seriously! This might sound terribly weird to someone who hasn't experienced this . . . but the longer I follow this path, the more convinced I am that God has been holding my hand the entire way. There are therapies that I FEEL drawn to doing . . . those I do when I FEEL it's time to do them. . . .Others that I believe are beneficial treatments that I not FEEL those are right for me - at least at that time. I don't do them unless/until I FEEL it's time. I've experienced many Ah-hah moments where something suddenly becomes crystal clear. . . Everything that comes in those moments has turned out to be right for me. God helps all who ask for help. . . It's all so simple . . and all so true. There's no need to get flustered about what to do . . . Just trust that you will know when something is right for you and when you should do it. Stressing over this stuff gets in the way of deciding what to do. You've been doing a great job of taking control of your health, making good decisions and sticking to your program. . . Now all you need is some more patience so your body has time to complete it's remodeling job. I know you will know what you need to do. Hugs and prayers, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 PH . .. Your father most certainly can't be blamed for any mercury toxicity you may be experiencing from your fillings. The people who came up with the idea that mercury could be safely used in fillings - and those who failed to do proper testing are the ones who are to blame. Your father was following the recommended dental practice at the time . . It's been only lately that this information is finally becoming public . . . In large part, I believe, because the public has become educated. I pray that's what will happen with breast implants SOON! . . . I talked to a man who was in on the development of some of the newer fillings. He had his reservations about them too. At the time, he actually thought amalgams were safer. I lost track of him long ago. Hugs, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 PH, I know Mercola's clinic is the "expert" . . . But I don't feel that what they are saying is quite right. . . We've had many women get much better after getting their diet and yeast issues under control without addressing heavy metals or adrenal issues . . . . Maybe they didn't have adrenal or heavy metal issues . . . but I suspect most of them did. I'm inclined to think that, for many, the adrenals respond to treating fungal issues, healthy diet, sleep, moderate exercise and stress management. . . Basically what they told you to do. . . even if they didn't address heavy metals directly. Personally, if I had big fungal issue, I wouldn't hold off treating it until I removed heavy metals or checked out adrenal issues. . . . I'd want to address it all as quickly as possible. Hugs, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 Rogene, I agree I had a MSH below an 8, so this is off the chart.... LOW... I have metal mouth like you would not believe, I am suppose to be getting them out, then the dentist backslid on the deal... Anyhow I had YEAST so badly you could scrape it off my teeth in the morning.. Infection and no Adrenals... Got the nasty bags out... Then diflucan, diet, probiotics and slowly, slowly felt better... My adrenals are better, but not totally.... Niether is all the other issues... I feel yeasty again, but I have been slipping up on my diet, I am working on getting it back under control, quickly.. I know I can do it, I did it before... On the other note I do believe we can get better just by the diet and anti fungal... God Bless, ~See AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 Steph, Get the Armour and take 30 mg... You can order this off the internet over seas somewhere... I know a girl who did it and her hair stopped falling out... 30 mg is a low dose so the worst thing could happen your hair fall out worse, then stop taking it... I would also take iron... ~See AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 and PH, What sort of test do they run for metals? Is this with a normal MD or Naturopath or can we do it on our own in the mail? Thanks, Lynn Re: Mercola Update Hi ,Thanks so much for describing your treatment. It makes it easier on me knowing what to expect. Mercola recommends a similar schedule of 3 days on, 7-10 days off. Did your doctor tell you how long you'd be on this protocol? I'll be checked again after 6 months to make sure it's working. He said it could take months or it could take years. Oh, he also put me on Alpha Lipoic Acid but I won't take that for a couple months. Supposedly ALA is what detoxes the mercury from the brain. Are you doing that as well?Thanks for the advice about continuing with the probiotics and yeast-free diet while doing DMSA. I'll be sure to do that! Love, PH>> Hi PH. I've been doing oral chelation with DMSA for mercury. My > levels were in extremely high range (at end of page) .. at 61. I was > quite worried about possible side effects, etc. before starting. I did > have one bout of nausea in the middle of the 2nd night of first dose. > I'm taking for 3 nights then 11 nights off.> > Other than that one reaction, I've generally felt better on the days I > take the DMSA. Things look and feel clearer.> > As I understand, you need to watch out for yeast when on the DMSA as > the sulphur can trigger yeast growth. So, I'd keep up the anti-yeast > diet, probiotics, etc. while doing the DMSA.> > Good luck,> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 Thanks so much. Lynn Re: Mercola Update Hi Lynn,Dr. Kolb had me do mine. She gave me the kit and then I mailed it off and she called me with the results a week later. The one I did was through Doctor's Data. Any naturopath can get one for you as I'm pretty sure Doctor's Data has to go through a doc. There are probably kits out there you can order and do yourself w/o a dr, but there are all kinds of labs out there that aren't necessarily reliable. When talking with my holistic dentist about it, he said to make sure you choose a reputable lab. I don't remember the other ones he recommended, but he did say that Doctor's Data was reliable. Love, PH> >> > Hi PH. I've been doing oral chelation with DMSA for mercury. My > > levels were in extremely high range (at end of page) .. at 61. I > was > > quite worried about possible side effects, etc. before starting. I > did > > have one bout of nausea in the middle of the 2nd night of first > dose. > > I'm taking for 3 nights then 11 nights off.> > > > Other than that one reaction, I've generally felt better on the > days I > > take the DMSA. Things look and feel clearer.> > > > As I understand, you need to watch out for yeast when on the DMSA > as > > the sulphur can trigger yeast growth. So, I'd keep up the anti-> yeast > > diet, probiotics, etc. while doing the DMSA.> > > > Good luck,> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 ,I wonder how your MSH would be now that you're feeling better?Has anybody who had low MSH be retested after getting the implants out and detoxing?Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 PH,Do you have a foot bath? . . . One of our silent sister's said her Dallas neurologist told her that he had started using foot baths rather than IV chelation because chelation was pulling to many good minerals out. If you get a change, would you ask Mercola's clinic what they think of foot baths and how they compare with Oral and IV Chelation?I don't think we're going to find any straightforward answers to our problems. . . It's obvious the causes are different, even if the origin was implants. . . Our genetics is different, so it only makes sense to assume we need varying things to get well. . . I wish everyone had the opportunity to see a doctor who understood this mess and knew how to get women well quickly.That's not going to happen unless they recognize there is a problem in the first place!Hugs,Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Happy Saturday PH ~ Dad is having a couple good days. Chemo again on tuesday, so I am so happy he is having a couple good days ! ! I am having some BP pingpong days making me be lazy.....hum.......God works in mysterious ways.....I push myself if my bp isnt too bad, but it has been bouncing, and I mean bouncing from minute to minute from 144/130-80/50. So, funny how its working ! Gonna go in and watch some movie with Dad and maybe eat some popcorn. My brother and his wife are coming to visit Christmas day and bringing a dinner. Otherwise, nothing at all planned. Neither Dad nor I have been able to do anything. So, this year, spending quality time together is what it is all about. I did put up my tree, but there are, and will be no gifts.... Kinda sad, but the best gift of all is the gift of self and time.......we may not have Dad next year, so, putting all our focus on him will be awesome. I actually do have a stone cross I am making a bookmark for Dad out of, it is small, blue I believe it is sodalite, really pretty, and it will be the dangley part, and I will use white leather for the inside the book part. I may get him a gift card for Borders or and Noble. He loves books. I can get one of those at CVS when my sister is here Monday. Anyway, it is a rough year for us, so it will just be different, and it will be good. What are you doing for the holidays? How are you feeling? Love DedeSee AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 PH,I haven't been that faithful with my foot bath . . . The first one I bought (about last March) went to my daughter . . . I used it when I went there. Because my mother was going downhill, that was fairly often . . . I had the second one for a few months, then left it with one of my sons . . . He forgot to bring it back Thanksgiving - But because he and his daughter are using it, I bought another one. I like this one best because I can handle the tub so easily!I used my new one for the first time after getting a massage (intense on lower legs) Wednesday . . . Never saw one like that before. Before the water color even started changing much, a bunch of redish/orange foam started gathering on the top. By the time I finished, it covered the top. I did another this morning . . . there was some of that same foam, but not nearly as much.Before this, each time looked better than the last . . . not by a lot, but at least some. So far, the water has looked gross!I've noticed that I do get a bit constipated when I do the foot baths or saunas. So, I know it's important to keep that water and fiber going when doing them! I suspect the baths get lighter when done more frequently because the stuff is "in the pipeline", so to speak. In other words, it's flushing out what's readily available. I can't believe that we pick up so many toxins in a relatively short time that the water would go from light to black after a break - unless we've done something usual (like my intense lower leg massage). . . they were probably there all along, just not ready to be released at the time. Hopefully we'll have DSL service back tomorrow. . . This dial-up is a pain!Hugs,Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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