Re: Re: Stages of Adrenal Fatigue

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September 2, 2009

exactly where I am! 8 yrs of it. yestrday during a new appointment with a new dr, I said "Thats fine if I dodnt have addison's...then WHAT do I have?" Ive been thinking about the fact that Kennedy had addison's. Well..who was his DR? How did he get diagnosed..back then? I mean was he worse of than me? If so, how in heck was he able to achieve so much?

Subject: Re: Stages of Adrenal FatigueTo: RT3_T3 Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 9:19 PM

Is adrenal failure a crash or do people actually die at that point? I think I was at stage 6 when I finally got on the Cortef. Very low cortisol and high out of range DHEAS. I was so sick and the doctors I was seeing kept telling me I was fine. >> Here is a link ot the stages of adrneal fatigue. You can match them to > your saliva cortiowl and DHEA results.> http://www.chronicfatigue.org/ASI.html> > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/>------------------------------------

September 2, 2009

wow hadnt thought of this..so even if we dont take hc, we should take isocort and extra adrenal stuff with a flu.

Subject: Re: Re: Stages of Adrenal FatigueTo: RT3_T3 Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 2:57 AM

MOST the time adrneals do nto just stop functioning all at once, they SLOWLY fail. You can stay alive with an amazingly low amount of cortils BUT all ti would take is a serious stress to put you into shock you cannto recover from. Thsi si usually the deaths from low cortiosl. A car accident or God forbid a FLU. I am convinced that most flu deaths are from low cortisol as the flu virus attacks the acth and cortisl in your body.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

September 2, 2009

Val - I couldn't agree MORE about the Flu deaths. When they were talking about the swine flu and how many deaths happen each year from just the regular flu I thought to myself....if the flu virus lowers cortisol it would lower it in everyone and since there are probably many people who are low cortisol and don't know it, add the flu to that and bang...flu death. I'm convinced. Imagine if doctor had two brain cells to rub together and they gave everyone with the flu some HC what could happen. What a joke that they can't figure that out.

MOST the time adrneals do nto just stop functioning all at once, they

SLOWLY fail. You can stay alive with an amazingly low amount of cortils

BUT all ti would take is a serious stress to put you into shock you

cannto recover from. Thsi si usually the deaths from low cortiosl. A car

accident or God forbid a FLU. I am convinced that most flu deaths are

from low cortisol as the flu virus attacks the acth and cortisl in your

body.

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September 2, 2009

on that note...I am having a consult about ovary surgery...im worried that I cant handle surgery, and the recooperation too. I dont do weel with drugs, so I dont take painkillers at all. has anyone that has very bad adrenal insuffieciency had surgery?

MOST the time adrneals do nto just stop functioning all at once, theySLOWLY fail. You can stay alive with an amazingly low amount of cortilsBUT all ti would take is a serious stress to put you into shock youcannto recover from. Thsi si usually the deaths from low cortiosl. A caraccident or God forbid a FLU. I am convinced that most flu deaths arefrom low cortisol as the flu virus attacks the acth and cortisl in yourbody.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

September 2, 2009

I have to say this Spring I got a touch of the flu. It came on VERY fast

and hard with all promise of being a really bad flu. I took 20mg HC (I

am on NONE and was totqlly off it then) immediately and that was abotu

8PM, the next Am I stil had the weird head feeling of flu and body aches

so I took 20mg three odses that day and by night time I felt NORMAL. It

never came back and it was done in less than 24 hours. People around

here woere sick for three weeks with this flu! SO I was impressed that

high HC dosing for the flu is exactly what is needed.

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September 2, 2009

The main thing i to ask the anesthesiologist for solucortef or

solumedrol in the IV with your anesthesia. Usually they give you 100mg

an that si enough to get most everyone through a surgery safely. If they

use the medrol it lasts several days and slowly leaves your system in

effect tapering off in about 3-4 days.

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September 2, 2009

If I can ever get off HC I plan on doing that whenever I get the flu. Luckily that's rarely (it's been more than 10 years I'd say) but I think this is the " cure " they are looking for (or pretending to look for).

I have to say this Spring I got a touch of the flu. It came on VERY fast

and hard with all promise of being a really bad flu. I took 20mg HC (I

am on NONE and was totqlly off it then) immediately and that was abotu

8PM, the next Am I stil had the weird head feeling of flu and body aches

so I took 20mg three odses that day and by night time I felt NORMAL. It

never came back and it was done in less than 24 hours. People around

here woere sick for three weeks with this flu! SO I was impressed that

high HC dosing for the flu is exactly what is needed.

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September 2, 2009

so medrol is best then? and then in 3 days your out of the worst pain, and can deal with it...

Subject: Re: Re: Stages of Adrenal FatigueTo: RT3_T3 Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 3:00 PM

The main thing i to ask the anesthesiologist for solucortef or solumedrol in the IV with your anesthesia. Usually they give you 100mg an that si enough to get most everyone through a surgery safely. If they use the medrol it lasts several days and slowly leaves your system in effect tapering off in about 3-4 days.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/------------------------------------

September 2, 2009

Why look for a cure or treatment when thye ar busy selling the dangerous

vaccines!

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September 2, 2009

Yes when I had my hysterectomy within 3 days I was on just aspirin for

pain.

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September 2, 2009

Exactly!!!!

Why look for a cure or treatment when thye ar busy selling the dangerous

vaccines!

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September 2, 2009

I know, there's so quick about those pred packs. I don't know the for sure answer on that though. It would seem to make sense. If they can take 80 on the first day why couldn't they take 20 and the very first sign of illness.

Do you think Cortef or isocort could be given to children when they get the flu? I notice for some of my friends children that have asthma they put them on full prednisone 20mg (which is like 80 mg cortef?)for a few days when they have viruses to stop the lung inflammation. It would seem then that a small amount of cortef for other children during the flu would be okay?

Does anyone know if the swine flue should be treated any differently for those of us with adrenal insufficiency? Do we do the cortef as well as something like tamaflu or is tamaflu really bad?

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> I have to say this Spring I got a touch of the flu. It came on VERY fast

> and hard with all promise of being a really bad flu. I took 20mg HC (I

> am on NONE and was totqlly off it then) immediately and that was abotu

> 8PM, the next Am I stil had the weird head feeling of flu and body aches

> so I took 20mg three odses that day and by night time I felt NORMAL. It

> never came back and it was done in less than 24 hours. People around

> here woere sick for three weeks with this flu! SO I was impressed that

> high HC dosing for the flu is exactly what is needed.

>

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> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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September 2, 2009

If I had kids, YES they woudl get HC if they had the flu. Absolutely.

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September 2, 2009

Except doesn't HC compromise your immune system?

Janis Whitcomb, Auburn, WA

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Re: Re: Stages of Adrenal Fatigue

> Val - I couldn't agree MORE about the Flu deaths. When they were talking

> about the swine flu and how many deaths happen each year from just the

> regular flu I thought to myself....if the flu virus lowers cortisol it

> would

> lower it in everyone and since there are probably many people who are low

> cortisol and don't know it, add the flu to that and bang...flu death. I'm

> convinced. Imagine if doctor had two brain cells to rub together and they

> gave everyone with the flu some HC what could happen. What a joke that

> they

> can't figure that out.

September 2, 2009

HIGH cortisl sodoes, but lwo cortils also does. When you get a flu it

attacks the ACTh and the cortisl in your body so it si free to move in

unimpeded. The aches and chills you get with a flu are almost

comopkletely from lwo coritosl caused by the flu.

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September 2, 2009

Remember, I've mentioned before if HC were to do that we would all be sick all the time. If you had perfect working adrenals your immune system would be compromised and that's all we are doing replacing what they should be doing on their own.

Except doesn't HC compromise your immune system?

Janis Whitcomb, Auburn, WA

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Re: Re: Stages of Adrenal Fatigue

> Val - I couldn't agree MORE about the Flu deaths. When they were talking

> about the swine flu and how many deaths happen each year from just the

> regular flu I thought to myself....if the flu virus lowers cortisol it

> would

> lower it in everyone and since there are probably many people who are low

> cortisol and don't know it, add the flu to that and bang...flu death. I'm

> convinced. Imagine if doctor had two brain cells to rub together and they

> gave everyone with the flu some HC what could happen. What a joke that

> they

> can't figure that out.

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September 2, 2009

I was wondering about that while watching " The Kennedy Brothers " . How *did*

they diagnose him? His illness was hidden to keep the public from

panicking.

Janis Whitcomb, Auburn, WA

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Leisa, I totally agree with you. How did he acheive so much with no adrenal

function? It seems like once drs have found the fact that there is NO

function then they have feel free to throw more medication at someone, make

them more comfortable (based on symptoms) and manage the situation more.

I have been through that whole " your adrenals are fine, you don't have

addisons " thing - it is awful.

September 2, 2009

Do you mean you took 20mg 3 times in one day?

Janis

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>I have to say this Spring I got a touch of the flu. It came on VERY fast

> and hard with all promise of being a really bad flu. I took 20mg HC (I

> am on NONE and was totqlly off it then) immediately and that was abotu

> 8PM, the next Am I stil had the weird head feeling of flu and body aches

> so I took 20mg three odses that day and by night time I felt NORMAL. It

> never came back and it was done in less than 24 hours. People around

> here woere sick for three weeks with this flu! SO I was impressed that

> high HC dosing for the flu is exactly what is needed.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

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September 2, 2009

yeah, and more importantly, how was he able to funtion so well? what did he take? and did he ever wean down?

Subject: Re: Re: Stages of Adrenal FatigueTo: RT3_T3 Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 6:52 PM

I was wondering about that while watching "The Kennedy Brothers". How *did* they diagnose him? His illness was hidden to keep the public from panicking.Janis Whitcomb, Auburn, WAjanisw2@...http://trotting-horse.com/http://www.cafepress.com/trotting_horseLeisa, I totally agree with you. How did he acheive so much with no adrenal function? It seems like once drs have found the fact that there is NO function then they have feel free to throw more medication at someone, make them more comfortable (based on symptoms) and manage the situation more.I have been through that whole "your adrenals are

fine, you don't have addisons" thing - it is awful.------------------------------------

September 3, 2009

No I took 20mg FOUR times in one day,.

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September 4, 2009

Most of them are quite happy to comply iwht this request as high cortils

for a dya or two des nto hurt ANYTHING but low during a surgery can be

extremely hazardous. It si their job ot keep oyu safe, so thye apreciate

th einfo that your adrenals may not be able to cope and need a bit of

help and insurance.

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