Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Typo corrected; sorry... Posted by: " " res075oh@... jamesl33511 Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:39 am (PDT) So would anyone else, given a total absence of supporting evidence. Unless there's some I haven't seen... Especially since the hormone molecule in Synthroid is bio-identical to that produced by your body; and that IN Armour. .. .. > He was so surprised that people get breast cancer from Synthroid.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Breast cancer isn't listed as one of the side effects of Synthroid. Where do you get that idea? The hormone [T4] provided by Synthroid is bioidentical to the molecule that your healthy body makes, as well as to the one in Armour. So how could it cause cancer? .. .. > > Posted by: " Ariun Nar " dreamcatcher6700@... > <mailto:dreamcatcher6700@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20thyroid%20test%20results> > dreamcatcher6700 <dreamcatcher6700> > > > Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:29 am (PDT) > > so what do mean about Syn and breast cancer? > > > From: <res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>> > Subject: Re: thyroid test results > hypothyroidism > <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> > Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 3:38 PM > > So would anyone else, given a total absence of supporting evidence. > > Unless there's some I haven't seen... > > Especially since the hormone molecule in Synthroid is bio-identical to > > that produced by your body; and that in Armour. > > > > .. > > .. > > > He was so surprised that people get breast cancer from Synthroid.. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Hmmm, last time I read the product insert bone loss and hair loss were still listed as possible side effects. I ended up with osteoporosis and total hair loss on synthroid... Sam > > > > ... I mentioned about > > Osteoporosis and breast cancer. She was so shocked! She did not know > > anything about the side effects and I knew better about hypo than her. > > The following citations are from Shomon, who comments that the > preponderance of evidence is consistent with these conclusions, that > levothyroxine, even at thyroid suppressive doses is not associated with > ANY increased risk of osteoporosis: > > A study released in June, 2000, at the World Congress on Osteoporosis in > Chicago, Illinois, found that taking thyroxine (i.e., Synthroid) does > not increase the risk of osteoporosis. The research, presented by Dr. > Stenstrom of the University of Gothenburg in Sweden, studied more > than 750 women who were taking prescribed thyroid medication for thyroid > disease. Over an 18 month period, bone mineral density was measured, and > compared to a control group who were not taking thyroid hormone. No > differences were noted in bone mineral density between those taking the > thyroid hormone, and the control group. An October, 1998 study reported > on in the Journal of Gynecological Endocrinology found that > levothyroxine suppressive therapy, if carefully carried out and > monitored, has no significant effect on bone mass. ( Gynecol Endocrinol > 1998 Oct;12(5):333-7, " Bone mineral density in premenopausal women > receiving levothyroxine suppressive therapy. " ). > > The highly regarded Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism > found that even " suppressive, " levothyroxine therapy -- prescribing > medicine that lowers TSH levels to hyperthyroid levels below normal > range -- if carefully carried out and monitored, has no significant > effect on bone metabolism or bone mass. ( J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1994 > Apr;78(4):818-23, " Carefully monitored levothyroxine suppressive therapy > is not associated with bone loss in premenopausal women. " ) > > A major thyroid-related journal, Thyroid, found that long-term > levothyroxine therapy using suppressive doses has no significant adverse > effects on bone. (Thyroid, 1995 Feb;5(1):13-7, " Suppressive doses of > thyroxine do not accelerate age-related bone loss in late postmenopausal > women. " ) > > Finally, in 1998, the Journal of Hormonal and Metabolic Research found > that there was no difference in bone mineral density between thyroid > patients and controls, and that the main factor in bone density and bone > turnover is menopausal status. The researchers found that slightly > suppressive levothyroxine doses constitute neither an actual risk factor > for bone loss nor, consequently, for osteoporotic fractures. (Horm Metab > Res 1995 Nov;27(11):503-7, " A slightly suppressive dose of L- thyroxine > does not affect bone turnover and bone mineral density in pre- and > postmenopausal women with nontoxic goitre. " ) > > Here is another one from S.: > > Study Finds Thyroid Drug Cuts Colon Cancer Risk by 50% > Tuesday November 1, 2005 > > The thyroid hormone replacement drug, levothyroxine, has been found to > reduce by half the risk of colorectal cancer. These findings -- the > results of research project done by a joint US-Israeli team -- were > announced at a meeting of the American Association Cancer Research - > Prevention Branch. Colorectal cancer is the second most common cause of > cancer deaths in the U.S. > > Almost 150,000 new cases are reported each year, and almost 60,000 > people are expected to die of colorectal cancer in 2005. > > There are some interesting connections: > > * Colorectal cancer -- and in particular, colon cancer on the right > side of the body, is associated with a higher incidence of thyroid cancer. > * Hypothyroidism (an underactive thyroid) has a negative effect on > colon function, which may contribute to increased risk of colorectal cancer > > In the research, more than 2000 pairs of patients were studied. In each > pair, one patient had been taking levothyroxine to treat hypothyroidism > for five years or more, while the control subject was someone of similar > age, gender, and other factors, who was not taking levothyroxine. > > Even after adjusting for factors protective against colorectal cancer -- > engaging in sports and exericse, and eating larger quantitites of > vegetables -- the researchers still found that the long-term use of > levothyroxine alone resulted in a 50% reduction in colorectal cancer risk. > > You should stop trying to frighten people with fairy tales. > > Chuck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 That may be all well and good, Chuck, but on synthcrap I still ended up with total hair loss (bald all over my body) and osteoporosis. Sam > > Hmmm, last time I read the product insert bone loss > > and hair loss were still listed as possible side effects. > > > > I ended up with osteoporosis and total hair loss on synthroid... > > All medications list outcomes due to inappropriate dosing as " side effects. " That doesn't mean that any kind of study showed that your risk of these effects will go up, since most people will be titrated to an appropriate dose. > > Chuck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Chuck, I remained bald and my bone loss got worse all those years on synthcrap. It was only when I 'first' began Armour that my hair started to grow back! Sam > > > > > > That may be all well and good, Chuck, but on synthcrap I still ended up > > with total hair loss (bald all over my body) and osteoporosis. > > > > Yes, we've been through this before. You told us the dose you were on, > and it was nowhere near the equivalence of the Armour you take now. I > seem to remember it was about half. So, how is that a fair comparison? > > Chuck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Betty, that would be your body's response to becoming hypOthyroid again from the dose being lowered. When the dose was increased, your hair loss slowed, and it's very likely that once your body starts to get the amount of thyroid hormones it needs, that your hair loss will stop. I personally pay more attention to symptoms (or the lack of symptoms) than I do to thyroid blood test results. Sam > >> > Hmmm, last time I read the product insert bone loss > >> > and hair loss were still listed as possible side effects. > >> > > >> > I ended up with osteoporosis and total hair loss on synthroid... > >> > >> All medications list outcomes due to inappropriate dosing as " side > > effects. " That doesn't mean that any kind of study showed that your > > risk of these effects will go up, since most people will be titrated to > > an appropriate dose. > >> > >> Chuck > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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