Re: Thyroid test results

[Guest guest]

Thanks Vin. Can I clarify? Do you mean the T3 uptake or is T3 on

this test high?

It's a work in progress.

a

> My sons t3 has been high also, and I was told from my sons Dr, that

it was the toxins in the system that was causeing that and not to

worry about it.

>

> As long as we get rid of the toxins.

>

> I also asked Dr Tim Buie about it and he agreed.

>

> Check the other things out. make sure the body is getting what it

needs.

>

> Vin

[Guest guest]

I think Hashis. It will be curious to see what the scan shows. Lynn

Thyroid test results

Hi everyone.I'm so tired so I'm going to send this message then go to bed.I got the results of my thyroid tests back and I really can't makesense of them still. In June TSH was 4.87...hypothyroid.Last Thurs tests:TSH 0.06 hyperthyroid rangeTSI 189 (should be less than 125)Thyroglobulin AB 26 (should be 0-20)Anti-TPO antibody 89 (should be 0-35)Free T4 normal rangeAny thoughts? I really feel hypo more than hyper...Thanks,

[Guest guest]

,

The results are clear.

You have Hashimoto's.

Your thyroid is under attack. The antibodies show that.

Your have an autoimmune thyroid disease that will result in

hypothyroid symptoms and this is a lifelong disease with no known

cure. It sounds scary, but it is not. You just need to monitor how

your thyroid is working.

Make sure your doctor takes care of you on this one.

You may not need thyroid meds right away with your TSH in normal

ranges, but please do not just use the TSH as your only marker of

healthy thyroid activity. You need to measure all of the thyroid

hormones (Free T3 and Free T4 being the most important) to know when

you need to start supporting your thyroid with thyroid meds.

Patty

--- In , " bnincongo " <bnincongo@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi everyone.

>

> I'm so tired so I'm going to send this message then go to bed.

>

> I got the results of my thyroid tests back and I really can't make

> sense of them still.

> In June TSH was 4.87...hypothyroid.

>

> Last Thurs tests:

>

> TSH 0.06 hyperthyroid range

>

> TSI 189 (should be less than 125)

>

> Thyroglobulin AB 26 (should be 0-20)

>

> Anti-TPO antibody 89 (should be 0-35)

>

> Free T4 normal range

>

> Any thoughts? I really feel hypo more than hyper...

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- In , " bnincongo " <bnincongo@...>

wrote:

>Hi

I know a fair bit about the thyroid,I was diagnosed with a

hyperfunctioning nodule on my thyroid last Jan. I was then treated

with 131 Rai treat for my hyperthyroidism. The only symptom other

than my obvious nodule on my thyroid was heart palp's,I started

getting them everyday and it was very scary,too much thyroid hoormone

can cause you to have problelms with your heart,and at 38 I was

really freaked out.I felt a little hyperthroughout the day and had a

huge amount of energy. I was literally like the energizer bunny. I

thought it was just normal. I had been hyperthyroid for so long that

I did not know the difference between the way I was feeling and

normal. Then what would happen is that I would crash and burn in the

evening or late afternoon sometimes ,and just be unbearably

exhausted. It was after I was treated with Rai that I got REALLY

sick with neuropathies. I am still uncertain wheather these symptoms

I suffer from now are from going a little hypo(that is what happens

when treated for hyperthyroidism with radioiodine) I am having my

implants out in a couple of weeks because I really do not know for

sure if my symptoms that I am suffering now are from them or my

thyroid problem. Doctor's do not really no, my endo say's that she

thinks I have a very sensitive system,whatever that is suppose to

mean!! I am on low dose of synthroid and does not seem to make a huge

difference ,but I have heard it takes time to feel better,so we will

see. When I was hyper my tsh was .01 literallly undetectable. Your

t4 and t3 and free t4 and free t3 are different Lab standard ranges

than we have in Canada,but I can tell you for certain that your tsh

of .06 is hyper not hypo. What is your endocrinologist suggesting??

have you seen one yet?? or have you just seen a GP? if the later I

would suggest seeing a endo. Even if you are a little hyper you can

feel very unwell,the thyroid controls literally every cell in your

body,and can take a long time to get straightened out. Do you have

any symptoms? I hope you feel better soon. Sounds like you are going

back and forth from hypo to hyper are you on synthroid now? 4.87 tsh

is hypo for sure!

Leanne

>

> I'm so tired so I'm going to send this message then go to bed.

>

> I got the results of my thyroid tests back and I really can't make

> sense of them still.

> In June TSH was 4.87...hypothyroid.

>

> Last Thurs tests:

>

> TSH 0.06 hyperthyroid range

>

> TSI 189 (should be less than 125)

>

> Thyroglobulin AB 26 (should be 0-20)

>

> Anti-TPO antibody 89 (should be 0-35)

>

> Free T4 normal range

>

> Any thoughts? I really feel hypo more than hyper...

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Patty,

Thanks. This helps. I tried to get some info online but still didn't

understand and I was

too tired to focus.

I hope my doctor follows up on this. I don't think he ordered the free t3 lab.

I would

almost like to try the meds because I have many of the hypothyroid symptoms and

I don't

seem to be getting better with my diet, detoxing and supplements.

We will see if my doctor calls and wants to see me about this.

Thanks so much.....

> >

> > Hi everyone.

> >

> > I'm so tired so I'm going to send this message then go to bed.

> >

> > I got the results of my thyroid tests back and I really can't make

> > sense of them still.

> > In June TSH was 4.87...hypothyroid.

> >

> > Last Thurs tests:

> >

> > TSH 0.06 hyperthyroid range

> >

> > TSI 189 (should be less than 125)

> >

> > Thyroglobulin AB 26 (should be 0-20)

> >

> > Anti-TPO antibody 89 (should be 0-35)

> >

> > Free T4 normal range

> >

> > Any thoughts? I really feel hypo more than hyper...

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Lynn,

Yeah...you are probably right. I have my scan a week from Fri. I don't know if

my doctor

will call and want to see me before then. My symptoms just don't seem to be

getting

better. It is tough when I have holiday stuff to take care of. I had 4 stops

to make today

and only made one before I got too tired and went home.

I'm sure many of us are dealing with the same " holiday " fatigue.

>

> I think Hashis. It will be curious to see what the scan shows.

>

> Lynn

>

>

>

> Thyroid test results

>

> Hi everyone.

>

> I'm so tired so I'm going to send this message then go to bed.

>

> I got the results of my thyroid tests back and I really can't make

> sense of them still.

> In June TSH was 4.87...hypothyroid.

>

> Last Thurs tests:

>

> TSH 0.06 hyperthyroid range

>

> TSI 189 (should be less than 125)

>

> Thyroglobulin AB 26 (should be 0-20)

>

> Anti-TPO antibody 89 (should be 0-35)

>

> Free T4 normal range

>

> Any thoughts? I really feel hypo more than hyper...

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Leanne,

Sounds like you have had it rough with your thyroid problems. I'll bet the

heart palps were

very scary. I had some irregular heart problems about 8 years ago but they

couldn't find

anything.

I don't feel at all like the energizer bunny. I really have trouble with

fatigue. I did have a

few hyper symptoms last week. Mainly a tremer in my hands but I have most of

the hypo

symptoms. What neuropathy symptoms did you have after the treatment?

It is good that you are having your implants out. I really think many/most of

my problems

are from the implants causing havoc with my immune system. I am so happy mine

are

out. At least my body doesn't have to deal with those toxins anymore.

I haven't seen an endo. Just my GP. (I also see a rheumatologist) He is a good

dr but as my

symptoms get worse and there are more of them he just insn't experienced enough

in all

the issues. My father was hypothyroid. I know the symptoms well. When I

mentioned to

my doctor last week that I was having some problems with bouts of depression

(which is

unlike me), he quickly decided that all my symptoms were probably due to

depression...

not that my disease what causing my depression. so... I think I might find an

endo.

I haven't taken any meds for thyroid. When my tests showed the high TSH in

June, they

said it was " normal " .

Thanks for the info. I wish you luck with your explant. Hope you will feel so

much better.

> >Hi

>

> I know a fair bit about the thyroid,I was diagnosed with a

> hyperfunctioning nodule on my thyroid last Jan. I was then treated

> with 131 Rai treat for my hyperthyroidism. The only symptom other

> than my obvious nodule on my thyroid was heart palp's,I started

> getting them everyday and it was very scary,too much thyroid hoormone

> can cause you to have problelms with your heart,and at 38 I was

> really freaked out.I felt a little hyperthroughout the day and had a

> huge amount of energy. I was literally like the energizer bunny. I

> thought it was just normal. I had been hyperthyroid for so long that

> I did not know the difference between the way I was feeling and

> normal. Then what would happen is that I would crash and burn in the

> evening or late afternoon sometimes ,and just be unbearably

> exhausted. It was after I was treated with Rai that I got REALLY

> sick with neuropathies. I am still uncertain wheather these symptoms

> I suffer from now are from going a little hypo(that is what happens

> when treated for hyperthyroidism with radioiodine) I am having my

> implants out in a couple of weeks because I really do not know for

> sure if my symptoms that I am suffering now are from them or my

> thyroid problem. Doctor's do not really no, my endo say's that she

> thinks I have a very sensitive system,whatever that is suppose to

> mean!! I am on low dose of synthroid and does not seem to make a huge

> difference ,but I have heard it takes time to feel better,so we will

> see. When I was hyper my tsh was .01 literallly undetectable. Your

> t4 and t3 and free t4 and free t3 are different Lab standard ranges

> than we have in Canada,but I can tell you for certain that your tsh

> of .06 is hyper not hypo. What is your endocrinologist suggesting??

> have you seen one yet?? or have you just seen a GP? if the later I

> would suggest seeing a endo. Even if you are a little hyper you can

> feel very unwell,the thyroid controls literally every cell in your

> body,and can take a long time to get straightened out. Do you have

> any symptoms? I hope you feel better soon. Sounds like you are going

> back and forth from hypo to hyper are you on synthroid now? 4.87 tsh

> is hypo for sure!

>

> Leanne

> >

> > I'm so tired so I'm going to send this message then go to bed.

> >

> > I got the results of my thyroid tests back and I really can't make

> > sense of them still.

> > In June TSH was 4.87...hypothyroid.

> >

> > Last Thurs tests:

> >

> > TSH 0.06 hyperthyroid range

> >

> > TSI 189 (should be less than 125)

> >

> > Thyroglobulin AB 26 (should be 0-20)

> >

> > Anti-TPO antibody 89 (should be 0-35)

> >

> > Free T4 normal range

> >

> > Any thoughts? I really feel hypo more than hyper...

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Cathie and Rogene,

Maybe you're thinking of what I posted a few weeks ago? Mercola

likes to go very slowly, letting the body do its own work and not

treating anyting until they know where the adrenals stand.

My thyroid antibodies show immune improblems and I have a low T3,

which I think they said was giving me hypo problems. They said they

didn't want to treat it until they knew where my adrenals stood.

They also said that with borderline blood work like mine, they can

see it reverse itself over time w/ diet and detox. Problem is, I

feel like I am dying every day, so part of me wants the medication if

I'll feel even just slightly better.

Next week they'll tell me my adrenal results and I'll let everyone

know what they suggest. Love, PH

> >

> > ,

> > The results are clear.

> >

> > You have Hashimoto's.

> >

> > Your thyroid is under attack. The antibodies show that.

> >

> > Your have an autoimmune thyroid disease that will result in

> > hypothyroid symptoms and this is a lifelong disease with no known

> > cure. It sounds scary, but it is not. You just need to monitor how

> > your thyroid is working.

> >

> > Make sure your doctor takes care of you on this one.

> >

> > You may not need thyroid meds right away with your TSH in normal

> > ranges, but please do not just use the TSH as your only marker of

> > healthy thyroid activity. You need to measure all of the thyroid

> > hormones (Free T3 and Free T4 being the most important) to know

when

> > you need to start supporting your thyroid with thyroid meds.

> >

> > Patty

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Cathie,

The testing always confuses me too... partly because low is high and

high is low in TSH... They removed half of your thyroid because they

found a nodule. Did they do this to find out if it was cancer?

I would be very upset if my hair were coming out that much. I don't

have much anymore to begin with. Has that stopped now?

Take care...

> > >

> > > ,

> > > The results are clear.

> > >

> > > You have Hashimoto's.

> > >

> > > Your thyroid is under attack. The antibodies show that.

> > >

> > > Your have an autoimmune thyroid disease that will result in

> > > hypothyroid symptoms and this is a lifelong disease with no known

> > > cure. It sounds scary, but it is not. You just need to monitor how

> > > your thyroid is working.

> > >

> > > Make sure your doctor takes care of you on this one.

> > >

> > > You may not need thyroid meds right away with your TSH in normal

> > > ranges, but please do not just use the TSH as your only marker of

> > > healthy thyroid activity. You need to measure all of the thyroid

> > > hormones (Free T3 and Free T4 being the most important) to know when

> > > you need to start supporting your thyroid with thyroid meds.

> > >

> > > Patty

> >

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

,

Treatment with thyroid meds will all depend on where your TSH, and

your Free T3 and Free T4 stands. If you are in the normal range of

TSH, most likely they are not going to give you anything.

However, the adrenals come into play here very much as well. You

could be feeling poorly due to the adrenals, and if you have

hypoadrenalism, (just think hypothyroidism, but applied to the

adrenals), you will need to support and/or treat the adrenals before

you can successfully take thyroid meds.

This is a poorly understood and very neglected area of thyroid

treatment. If you have an adrenal condition and take armour thryoid,

you probably won't do well on it. Those with adrenal insufficiency

seem to do better on Synthroid until the adrenals are better. Then

you can switch to armour.

The difference between the two is that Armour has both T3 and T4 in

it. Synthroid is T4 only, and the thinking is that the body will

appropriately convert the necessary T4 into T3. Sometimes that is

true, and sometimes it is not.

The adrenal glands can take about 2 years to recover.

Remember, , that you are still very recently explanted. You may

not see any results from all of your efforts for months. It took me

over 18 months to even START to feel better. All that time, I was

feeling like I wanted to die, but I was detoxing as best I could. I

had too much stress in my life, and you MUST take steps to reduce

your stress, focus on meditation and relaxation (all adrenal

supportive therapies), and get the adrenal supportive supplements.

(You can find those listed in our links section on adrenals.)

You'll be better someday...just don't be impatient for things to

happen!

Patty

> > >

> > > Hi everyone.

> > >

> > > I'm so tired so I'm going to send this message then go to bed.

> > >

> > > I got the results of my thyroid tests back and I really can't

make

> > > sense of them still.

> > > In June TSH was 4.87...hypothyroid.

> > >

> > > Last Thurs tests:

> > >

> > > TSH 0.06 hyperthyroid range

> > >

> > > TSI 189 (should be less than 125)

> > >

> > > Thyroglobulin AB 26 (should be 0-20)

> > >

> > > Anti-TPO antibody 89 (should be 0-35)

> > >

> > > Free T4 normal range

> > >

> > > Any thoughts? I really feel hypo more than hyper...

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Cathie,

Thyroid issues can be so very confusing. But once you understand the

basics, you will begin to figure out how to monitor your thyroid.

Cathie, have you had the antibodies tested lately? If not, I would

start there. So many of our women end up with Hashimoto's. Hashi's

is not curable, so you will be treating the rest of your life. But

the hope is that with the right combination of supplements and

treatment, you can live a normal life. I certainly do.

You may want to spend some time reviewing some helpful info and just

focusing on those basics. Before labs were developed, doctors

treated patients solely by symptoms....and successfully! They used to

monitor temperature, as your body temp reflects metabolism. It's

still a good way to see how you are doing. (Generally, you want your

morning temp (before rising) to be 97.8 to 98.2, and your afternoon

temp to be around 98.6.)

A good place to start is www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

They have tons of good info!

Bottom line is this:

If you have Hashi's, you will be typically hypothyroid. But you can

swing between hypo and hyper.

Once your labs show consistently low thyroid ( = high TSH), you will

need thyroid support. The question will be how well you do on natural

Armour thyroid, vs synthetic hormones such as Synthroid. If you have

an untreated adrenal condition, you will do better on Synthroid.

(But why don't they treat the adrenals, wonders me??)

Armour is better because it contains both T3 and T4, so you don't

have to wait for your body to do any conversion. You want a Free T4

in the normal to high ranges so that you will always have hormone

ready to convert as needed. A low Free T4 is not good, nor is a low

Free T3.

Some people don't do well on Synthroid because they do have a

conversion problem, and they end up with low Free T3, leaving them

feeling very lethargic. You want your Free T3 in the normal to high

ranges.

I know this is alot of info that is confusing. Just take some time to

absorb it all, surf the thyroid website, and maybe read a book or

two. One thing is clear: if you have a thyroid issue, do NOT leave

it up to the doctors to treat you. You have to take this one by the

horns and learn to read your body to know how to treat your symptoms

yourself.

Patty

> > >

> > > ,

> > > The results are clear.

> > >

> > > You have Hashimoto's.

> > >

> > > Your thyroid is under attack. The antibodies show that.

> > >

> > > Your have an autoimmune thyroid disease that will result in

> > > hypothyroid symptoms and this is a lifelong disease with no

known

> > > cure. It sounds scary, but it is not. You just need to monitor

how

> > > your thyroid is working.

> > >

> > > Make sure your doctor takes care of you on this one.

> > >

> > > You may not need thyroid meds right away with your TSH in normal

> > > ranges, but please do not just use the TSH as your only marker

of

> > > healthy thyroid activity. You need to measure all of the thyroid

> > > hormones (Free T3 and Free T4 being the most important) to know

when

> > > you need to start supporting your thyroid with thyroid meds.

> > >

> > > Patty

> >

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Patty,

I haven't checked out the adrenal supplements yet so I'll do that. I

am taking many other supplements.

> > > >

> > > > Hi everyone.

> > > >

> > > > I'm so tired so I'm going to send this message then go to bed.

> > > >

> > > > I got the results of my thyroid tests back and I really can't

> make

> > > > sense of them still.

> > > > In June TSH was 4.87...hypothyroid.

> > > >

> > > > Last Thurs tests:

> > > >

> > > > TSH 0.06 hyperthyroid range

> > > >

> > > > TSI 189 (should be less than 125)

> > > >

> > > > Thyroglobulin AB 26 (should be 0-20)

> > > >

> > > > Anti-TPO antibody 89 (should be 0-35)

> > > >

> > > > Free T4 normal range

> > > >

> > > > Any thoughts? I really feel hypo more than hyper...

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene, I called my naturopath today to see if he would do testing

for my hormones and thyroid. He said that first he wants to do a test

for candida antibodies, vitamin D, and a food panel. Do you think in

the mean time I should do a Canary test on my own?

Steph

>

> Cathie,

>

>

>

> From what I've heard, doctors don't like to take the time to work out

> Armour dosing with patients. . . Prescribing Synthroid is much easier.

>

>

>

> Have you followed the " Sticking Our Necks Out " author,

Shomon? . . . She has a free newsletter and has written a book. She's

a lay person, but knows more about thyroid issues than most specialists.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Can you get off the Prednisone and on to cortef instead?

Patty

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > > The results are clear.

> > > >

> > > > You have Hashimoto's.

> > > >

> > > > Your thyroid is under attack. The antibodies show that.

> > > >

> > > > Your have an autoimmune thyroid disease that will result in

> > > > hypothyroid symptoms and this is a lifelong disease with no

known

> > > > cure. It sounds scary, but it is not. You just need to

monitor how

> > > > your thyroid is working.

> > > >

> > > > Make sure your doctor takes care of you on this one.

> > > >

> > > > You may not need thyroid meds right away with your TSH in

normal

> > > > ranges, but please do not just use the TSH as your only

marker of

> > > > healthy thyroid activity. You need to measure all of the

thyroid

> > > > hormones (Free T3 and Free T4 being the most important) to

know

> > when

> > > > you need to start supporting your thyroid with thyroid meds.

> > > >

> > > > Patty

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

That's the usual BS answer that they give when they want to keep

their perks from prescribing the Synthroid. Fact is, hundreds of

thousands of thyroid sufferes use Armour and actually prefer it over

anything else.

I find that kind of response from doctors a joke.

Patty

>

>

> In a message dated 12/4/07 9:52:05 AM, glory2glory1401@... writes:

>

>

> > The difference between the two is that Armour has both T3 and T4

in

> > it. Synthroid is T4 only, and the thinking is that the body will

> > appropriately convert the necessary T4 into T3. Sometimes that is

> > true, and sometimes it is not.

> >

>

> I asked my Endocrinologist about taking the Armour and was told

that the dose

> is an unreliable amount, in that it could vary from pill to pill...

> Cathie

>

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[Guest guest]

Cathie,

Cortef is the bio-identical cortisol hormone. Prednisone is

synthetic and much more potent and toxic.

Please read the article at this link:

http://www.townsendletter.com/Oct_2002/fibromyalgia1002.htm

Excerpts:

Cortef is much more effective than prednisone in CFIDS/FMS.

Adrenal Insufficiency

The hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis does not function

well in CFIDS/FMS.8 Dr. Jefferies, a professor of medicine at

the University of Virginia Medical School and previously a professor

at Case Western University School of Medicine, is the world's leading

clinical expert on subclinical adrenal insufficiency. His book " Safe

Uses of Cortisol " discusses the history of this disease and its

treatment.9 Because early researchers used massive doses of cortisol

(not knowing the physiologic dose), their patients developed severe

complications. What is not common knowledge is that these side

effects are not seen with physiologic dosing of Cortef (that is, up

to 20 milligrams [mg] a day).10 Twenty mg of hydrocortisone (Cortef)

is equal to 4 to 5 mg of prednisone.

>

> I don't know. So far, I have not had much luck with the

Endocrinologist

> helping me out on the steroids. I will have to ask my Internist.

Why Cortef?

>

> Thanks,

> Cathie

> In a message dated 12/4/07 8:54:47 PM, glory2glory1401@... writes:

>

>

> > Can you get off the Prednisone and on to cortef instead?

> > Patty

[Guest guest]

I'm just so impatient and I know that my insurance won't cover the

saliva tests so it's actually cheaper with the Canary Club. My next

appt with him is in Jan so maybe by that time if I do the Canary Club

test I'll have the results back before I see him. Once you receive the

test do you do the testing in just one day and then mail it back to the

lab?

Steph

>

> Steph,

>

> Since you've found a naturopath to work with, I'd suggest seeing how

things go with him before taking off on your own. I'm sure there are

some things he wants to know before taking that step.

>

> If things aren't progressing satisfactorily after a while, I'd ask

him about testing . . . Then decide if you need to do it on your own or

not.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, you take your saliva samples throughout the day, using the vials

and tubes they've given you. Read the directions carefully. You

also will want to overnight the package of samples back to them, or

mail them using a service that will get it to them in 2 days...and

mail it on a Monday so that it doesn't sit in a post office over the

weekend. In any case, they provide complete details for you

regarding how to send in the sample.

Also, make sure you mail it to the correct location. I think there

are two addresses listed, depending on what state you live in.

Once they receive the samples, they will take about a week to process

it, and then you can check your test results on the internet. Make

sure you write down all of the codes and passwords so you can get

back in to see your results. They will also mail you a hard copy.

Patty

> >

> > Steph,

> >

> > Since you've found a naturopath to work with, I'd suggest seeing

how

> things go with him before taking off on your own. I'm sure there

are

> some things he wants to know before taking that step.

> >

> > If things aren't progressing satisfactorily after a while, I'd

ask

> him about testing . . . Then decide if you need to do it on your

own or

> not.

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I did read their website and it says that the test for the hormones

has to be done on certain days of your cycle. Is that true? I was

under the impression it doesn't matter when you do the samples. Do

you know if you can pay for the test with a credit card? Thanks

> > >

> > > Steph,

> > >

> > > Since you've found a naturopath to work with, I'd suggest

seeing

> how

> > things go with him before taking off on your own. I'm sure there

> are

> > some things he wants to know before taking that step.

> > >

> > > If things aren't progressing satisfactorily after a while, I'd

> ask

> > him about testing . . . Then decide if you need to do it on your

> own or

> > not.

> > >

> > > Hugs,

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

If that's what they say, then you need to follow it!

I am going through menopause so I didn't have a clue what day in my

cycle I was. Yes, you can pay for the test with a credit card.

Patty

> > >

> > > I'm just so impatient and I know that my insurance won't cover

> the

> > > saliva tests so it's actually cheaper with the Canary Club. My

> next

> > > appt with him is in Jan so maybe by that time if I do the

Canary

> > Club

> > > test I'll have the results back before I see him. Once you

> receive

> > the

> > > test do you do the testing in just one day and then mail it

back

> to

> > the

> > > lab?

> > >

> > > Steph

> > >

> > > --- In , saxony01 <saxony01@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Steph,

> > > >

> > > > Since you've found a naturopath to work with, I'd suggest

> seeing

> > how

> > > things go with him before taking off on your own. I'm sure

there

> > are

> > > some things he wants to know before taking that step.

> > > >

> > > > If things aren't progressing satisfactorily after a while,

I'd

> > ask

> > > him about testing . . . Then decide if you need to do it on

your

> > own or

> > > not.

> > > >

> > > > Hugs,

> > > >

> > > > Rogene

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Bev,

Your question is perfectly ON topic.

You wrote:

>

> This is off topic,-- Can thyroid hormone drop for no reason in about

> 1 1/2 hours by about .4 pg/mL. Is this common? I went about an 1 1/2

> later than normal to get blood work this time & am wondering this.

> Everything else is & was the same about my thyroid.

I don't know which " thyroid hormone " you are referring to, but TSH and

T3 both follow a pronounced circadian rhythm. T3 peaks about 1-2 hours

following the TSH. T4 is cyclic too, but it is lower in amplitude and

superimposed on a 90 minute cycle. Evidently there is a corresponding

cycle in the iodine removal process. Time of day can definitely make a

difference for the corresponding blood tests.

The circadian rhythm has been advanced as an argument for taking thyroid

meds before bed instead of in the morning.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

> The circadian rhythm has been advanced as an argument for taking

thyroid

> meds before bed instead of in the morning.

>

> Chuck

Thanks for your info Chuck. Sorry for not being so clear.. It is

just my FT3 that was lower than normal but my FT4 was exactly the

same. I normally get the blood work done about 7:30am this time I

couldn't get there until a little after 9am.

What you're talking about with the rhythm still be why my FT3 would

be lower & my FT4 still be exact same at the same time?

Oh yea, the statement above I just don't understand , could you

clarify a little more for me...

thanks

Bev

[Guest guest]

> Bev,

>

> T4 (and FT4) varies only a little through the day. It has a

relatively

> long half life, so the only variation is due to the cycle in

> de-iodization. TSH peaks in the very early morning and is in decline

> during the times you tested. T3 peaks about 2 hours later and also

> declines between your testing times, so your results are quite

> consistent with the circadian patterns.

>

> TSH turns around late in the morning and peaks a second time in the

> middle of the afternoon. So, if you want to impress the doctor with

a

> high TSH, have the blood drawn around 3:00 p.m.

>

> Chuck

Thanks Chuck. You mean if your TSH is high at 3pm even though your

FT3 is high too? Oh by the way I don't test for TSH any more, the

doc. said since I don't dose by it there's no since in testing for it.

I just test FT3 & FT4.

Bev

[Guest guest]

Yes,

> Are you guys also members of NaturalThyroidHormones group? I

get over 100 email

> a day from the both groups.

>

What is a K tablet?

BEv

> grabbed K tablet and drunk 2 cups of water. 2 min later everything

was settled down.

>

[Guest guest]

So would anyone else, given a total absence of supporting evidence.

Unless there's some I haven't seen...

Especially since the hormone molecule in Synthroid is bio-identical to

that produced by your body; and that is Armour.

..

..

> He was so surprised that people get breast cancer from Synthroid..