Re: Re: Thyroid test results

[Guest guest]

I am clueless over the thyroid testing. I was told my thyroid tests were low normal. I had the left lobe removed in August (no cancer) and afterwards had really awful palpitations, irritability and sweats, like menopause... My thyroid antibodies were elevated prior to surgery around the time the nodule was found.

Symptoms began to settle down, but I was put on low dose Synthroid, then my Internist raised it too much and the Endocrinologist took it back down to .05. (I hope I am telling this in the right order.

At this point, my hair started falling out like mad... I did have some hair loss years ago and have had some hair loss since, but this was like-I could not even use a hairbrush, as it was coming out in clumps.. The Endocrinologist then took me completely off of Synthroid...

At this point, I do not know which end is up... I believe that T4 has to be converted to T3, but don't really have a good idea of the overall picture of thyroid testing, and how this all works... LIke many of the rest of you, I am probably on overload and just not absorbing what I read.

Cathie

In a message dated 12/3/07 11:14:43 PM, bnincongo@... writes:

Patty,

Thanks. This helps. I tried to get some info online but still didn't understand and I was

too tired to focus.

I hope my doctor follows up on this. I don't think he ordered the free t3 lab. I would

almost like to try the meds because I have many of the hypothyroid symptoms and I don't

seem to be getting better with my diet, detoxing and supplements.

We will see if my doctor calls and wants to see me about this.

Thanks so much.....

>

> ,

> The results are clear.

>

> You have Hashimoto's.

>

> Your thyroid is under attack. The antibodies show that.

>

> Your have an autoimmune thyroid disease that will result in

> hypothyroid symptoms and this is a lifelong disease with no known

> cure. It sounds scary, but it is not. You just need to monitor how

> your thyroid is working.

>

> Make sure your doctor takes care of you on this one.

>

> You may not need thyroid meds right away with your TSH in normal

> ranges, but please do not just use the TSH as your only marker of

> healthy thyroid activity. You need to measure all of the thyroid

> hormones (Free T3 and Free T4 being the most important) to know when

> you need to start supporting your thyroid with thyroid meds.

>

> Patty

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[Guest guest]

Cathie,

I believe it was Patty who posted info about not prescribing thyroid meds until adrenal function has been checked out . . . If I remember right, it's the manufacturer of one of the thyroid meds who recommended this . . . Maybe Patty can help us with this.

If there's anyone who I would have adrenal fatigue/failure for, it would be you. . .

Have you had your adrenal functioning checked?

Hugs,

Rogene

Re: Re: Thyroid test results

I am clueless over the thyroid testing. I was told my thyroid tests were low normal. I had the left lobe removed in August (no cancer) and afterwards had really awful palpitations, irritability and sweats, like menopause... My thyroid antibodies were elevated prior to surgery around the time the nodule was found.Symptoms began to settle down, but I was put on low dose Synthroid, then my Internist raised it too much and the Endocrinologist took it back down to .05. (I hope I am telling this in the right order. :)At this point, my hair started falling out like mad... I did have some hair loss years ago and have had some hair loss since, but this was like-I could not even use a hairbrush, as it was coming out in clumps.. The Endocrinologist then took me completely off of Synthroid...At this point, I do not know which end is up... I

believe that T4 has to be converted to T3, but don't really have a good idea of the overall picture of thyroid testing, and how this all works... LIke many of the rest of you, I am probably on overload and just not absorbing what I read.CathieIn a message dated 12/3/07 11:14:43 PM, bnincongomac (DOT) com writes:

Patty,Thanks. This helps. I tried to get some info online but still didn't understand and I wastoo tired to focus.I hope my doctor follows up on this. I don't think he ordered the free t3 lab. I wouldalmost like to try the meds because I have many of the hypothyroid symptoms and I don'tseem to be getting better with my diet, detoxing and supplements.We will see if my doctor calls and wants to see me about this.Thanks so much.....>>

,> The results are clear.>> You have Hashimoto's.>> Your thyroid is under attack. The antibodies show that.>> Your have an autoimmune thyroid disease that will result in> hypothyroid symptoms and this is a lifelong disease with no known> cure. It sounds scary, but it is not. You just need to monitor how> your thyroid is working.>> Make sure your doctor takes care of you on this one.>> You may not need thyroid meds right away with your TSH in normal> ranges, but please do not just use the TSH as your only marker of> healthy thyroid activity. You need to measure all of the thyroid> hormones (Free T3 and Free T4 being the most important) to know when> you need to start supporting your thyroid with thyroid meds.>> Patty************ ********* ********* ********Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.(http://money. aol.com/special/ hot-products- 2007?NCID= aoltop0003000000 0001)

[Guest guest]

Hello all and thanks:

Adrenal testing cannot be done right now because I am on Prednisone.

Cathie

In a message dated 12/4/07 8:51:42 AM, perfecthealth68@... writes:

Cathie and Rogene,

Maybe you're thinking of what I posted a few weeks ago? Mercola

likes to go very slowly, letting the body do its own work and not

treating anyting until they know where the adrenals stand.

My thyroid antibodies show immune improblems and I have a low T3,

which I think they said was giving me hypo problems. They said they

didn't want to treat it until they knew where my adrenals stood.

They also said that with borderline blood work like mine, they can

see it reverse itself over time w/ diet and detox. Problem is, I

feel like I am dying every day, so part of me wants the medication if

I'll feel even just slightly better.

Next week they'll tell me my adrenal results and I'll let everyone

know what they suggest. Love, PH

> >

> > ,

> > The results are clear.

> >

> > You have Hashimoto's.

> >

> > Your thyroid is under attack. The antibodies show that.

> >

> > Your have an autoimmune thyroid disease that will result in

> > hypothyroid symptoms and this is a lifelong disease with no known

> > cure. It sounds scary, but it is not. You just need to monitor how

> > your thyroid is working.

> >

> > Make sure your doctor takes care of you on this one.

> >

> > You may not need thyroid meds right away with your TSH in normal

> > ranges, but please do not just use the TSH as your only marker of

> > healthy thyroid activity. You need to measure all of the thyroid

> > hormones (Free T3 and Free T4 being the most important) to know

when

> > you need to start supporting your thyroid with thyroid meds.

> >

> > Patty

>

>

>

>

>

> ************ ********* ********* ********

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> (http://money. aol.com/special/ hot-products- 2007?NCID=

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>

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[Guest guest]

Yes, thyroid surgery was done to rule out cancer, which I do not have, thank goodness...

Hair loss was really bad years ago, shortly after I first got my implants. Over the years it seemed to wax and wane, but lately, as I posted, I could not even use a hair brush without wads of it coming out. because it was so heavy...

ly, this stuff all runs together any more and it is hard to keep up with what happened and when... I am sure you all understand that.

I am hoping this will get better. I was a little surprised to read that Synthroid can cause hair loss. Seems like it would be the other way around...

Cathie

In a message dated 12/4/07 8:52:25 AM, bnincongo@... writes:

Hi Cathie,

The testing always confuses me too... partly because low is high and

high is low in TSH... They removed half of your thyroid because they

found a nodule. Did they do this to find out if it was cancer?

I would be very upset if my hair were coming out that much. I don't

have much anymore to begin with. Has that stopped now?

Take care...

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In a message dated 12/4/07 9:52:05 AM, glory2glory1401@... writes:

The difference between the two is that Armour has both T3 and T4 in

it. Synthroid is T4 only, and the thinking is that the body will

appropriately convert the necessary T4 into T3. Sometimes that is

true, and sometimes it is not.

I asked my Endocrinologist about taking the Armour and was told that the dose is an unreliable amount, in that it could vary from pill to pill...

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PH,I'm not fully versed in thyroid meds . . . There has to be a reason why doctors are reluctant to prescribe them readily . . . Especially when they're so willing to prescribe everything else. I think Dr. Mercola's clinic is giving you excellent advice. . . . It's tempting to treat the symptoms and ignore the results . . . The patient feels better and goes away happy. . . We live in times of "fast" everything. However, we know that frequently just confuses the issue. I'd work on things that give you momentary symptom relief. Heat or cold, rest or activity, meditation, massage, imaging, etc. Find something to do that takes you mind off negative thoughts . . . Your

body will thank you!Hugs,Rogene

[Guest guest]

Sweet Cathie, I am so happy to hear that you do not have cancer. My doctor increased my Synthroid to 90mg. and it is helping. The massive injections of B12 is saving my life, the dose is 0.25ml, without any additives, injected once a week. Have you though about having these injections?

My depression has improved quite a bit as well. I wish that there was a painkiller that I could tolerate, but my heating pad is helping. My hair is still falling out, but it seems to be getting better.

Honey, we are so glad that you are posting to this wonderful group. We have a lot in common, and we have been around for many years. How are you doing regarding the MGUS? I am still positive; however, I always worry that one day it could become MM.

Stay close...sending love always....Lea

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

Re: Re: Thyroid test results

Yes, thyroid surgery was done to rule out cancer, which I do not have, thank goodness...Hair loss was really bad years ago, shortly after I first got my implants. Over the years it seemed to wax and wane, but lately, as I posted, I could not even use a hair brush without wads of it coming out. because it was so heavy...ly, this stuff all runs together any more and it is hard to keep up with what happened and when... I am sure you all understand that. :)I am hoping this will get better. I was a little surprised to read that Synthroid can cause hair loss. Seems like it would be the other way around...CathieIn a message dated 12/4/07 8:52:25 AM, bnincongomac writes:

Hi Cathie,The testing always confuses me too... partly because low is high andhigh is low in TSH... They removed half of your thyroid because theyfound a nodule. Did they do this to find out if it was cancer?I would be very upset if my hair were coming out that much. I don'thave much anymore to begin with. Has that stopped now?Take care...**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

[Guest guest]

Cathie,

From what I've heard, doctors don't like to take the time to work out

Armour dosing with patients. . . Prescribing Synthroid is much easier.

Have you followed the "Sticking Our Necks Out" author, Shomon? . . . She has a free newsletter and has written a book. She's a lay person, but knows more about thyroid issues than most specialists.Hugs,Rogene

[Guest guest]

Steph,Since you've found a naturopath to work with, I'd suggest seeing how things go with him before taking off on your own. I'm sure there are some things he wants to know before taking that step.If things aren't progressing satisfactorily after a while, I'd ask him about testing . . . Then decide if you need to do it on your own or not.Hugs,Rogene

[Guest guest]

I don't know. So far, I have not had much luck with the Endocrinologist helping me out on the steroids. I will have to ask my Internist. Why Cortef?

Thanks,

Cathie

In a message dated 12/4/07 8:54:47 PM, glory2glory1401@... writes:

Can you get off the Prednisone and on to cortef instead?

Patty

> > >

> > > Cathie,

> > >

> > > I believe it was Patty who posted info about not prescribing

> > thyroid meds until adrenal function has been checked out . . . If

I

> > remember right, it's the manufacturer of one of the thyroid meds

who

> > recommended this . . . Maybe Patty can help us with this.

> > >

> > > If there's anyone who I would have adrenal fatigue/failure for,

it

> > would be you. . .

> > >

> > > Have you had your adrenal functioning checked?

> > >

> > > Hugs,

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Re: Re: Thyroid test results

> > >

> > > I am clueless over the thyroid testing. I was told my thyroid

tests

> > were low normal. I had the left lobe removed in August (no cancer)

> > and afterwards had really awful palpitations, irritability and

> > sweats, like menopause... My thyroid antibodies were elevated

prior

> > to surgery around the time the nodule was found.

> > >

> > > Symptoms began to settle down, but I was put on low dose

Synthroid,

> > then my Internist raised it too much and the Endocrinologist took

it

> > back down to .05. (I hope I am telling this in the right

order. :)

> > >

> > > At this point, my hair started falling out like mad... I did

have

> > some hair loss years ago and have had some hair loss since, but

this

> > was like-I could not even use a hairbrush, as it was coming out in

> > clumps.. The Endocrinologist then took me completely off of

> > Synthroid...

> > >

> > > At this point, I do not know which end is up... I believe

that

> > T4 has to be converted to T3, but don't really have a good idea of

> > the overall picture of thyroid testing, and how this all works...

> > LIke many of the rest of you, I am probably on overload and just

not

> > absorbing what I read.

> > >

> > > Cathie

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[Guest guest]

Thank you Lea. Such a nice posting...

I am on injectible B12 and have been now for several years. It helps with the pain for some reason. Originally, oral B12 helped, but eventually, the injectible really seemed to do better.

I am still positive for MGUS. Fortunately, the doctor who follows this says the abnormal protein is negligible, so hopefully it will stay that way... So far, I have not heard of anyone developing MM.

Cathie

In a message dated 12/4/07 12:28:26 PM, devans@... writes:

Sweet Cathie, I am so happy to hear that you do not have cancer. My doctor increased my Synthroid to 90mg. and it is helping. The massive injections of B12 is saving my life, the dose is 0.25ml, without any additives, injected once a week. Have you though about having these injections?

 

My depression has improved quite a bit as well. I wish that there was a painkiller that I could tolerate, but my heating pad is helping. My hair is still falling out, but it seems to be getting better.

 

Honey, we are so glad that you are posting to this wonderful group. We have a lot in common, and we have been around for many years. How are you doing regarding the MGUS? I am still positive; however, I always worry that one day it could become MM.

 

Stay close...sending love always....Lea

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[Guest guest]

I think I have heard of her. Right now, I am off of Synthroid. I am anxious to see how this goes for me. I would like nothing better than to cut back on medication I am on. I will check her out though...

Cathie

In a message dated 12/4/07 2:16:35 PM, saxony01@... writes:

Cathie,

From what I've heard, doctors don't like to take the time to work out Armour dosing with patients. . . Prescribing Synthroid is much easier.

Have you followed the "Sticking Our Necks Out" author, Shomon?  . . . She has a free newsletter and has written a book. She's a lay person, but knows more about thyroid issues than most specialists.

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[Guest guest]

Are you guys also members of NaturalThyroidHormones group? I get over 100

email

a day from the both groups.

A good news today is I got a new family doc. He LISTENED to me so far, and asked

about

STTM site. He was so surprised that people get breast cancer from Synthroid..

He is checking my adrenals too as I asked, also for Reum. factor again since my

joints are hurting too.

But sad news is I was coming back from the gym tonight I almost fell to the

ground because of my muscle cramp. I was walking like an invalid, finally I

reached my door

grabbed K tablet and drunk 2 cups of water. 2 min later everything was settled

down.

I never had such a situation before.

From: Bev <bdowns45681@...>

Subject: Re: thyroid test results

hypothyroidism

Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 9:52 PM

> Bev,

>

> T4 (and FT4) varies only a little through the day. It has a

relatively

> long half life, so the only variation is due to the cycle in

> de-iodization. TSH peaks in the very early morning and is in decline

> during the times you tested. T3 peaks about 2 hours later and also

> declines between your testing times, so your results are quite

> consistent with the circadian patterns.

>

> TSH turns around late in the morning and peaks a second time in the

> middle of the afternoon. So, if you want to impress the doctor with

a

> high TSH, have the blood drawn around 3:00 p.m.

>

> Chuck

Thanks Chuck. You mean if your TSH is high at 3pm even though your

FT3 is high too? Oh by the way I don't test for TSH any more, the

doc. said since I don't dose by it there's no since in testing for it.

I just test FT3 & FT4.

Bev

[Guest guest]

Bev,

You wrote:

>

> Thanks Chuck. You mean if your TSH is high at 3pm even though your

> FT3 is high too?...

The circadian studies we've been posting are for " normal " thyroid

function. In those cycles, T3 peaks 1-2 hours after the TSH. I would

expect a different " peak " in T4 and TSH for T4 medication, depending on

when you take it. If you stop taking your meds before a blood draw, then

some of the old circadian rhythm may appear, but I would not really

expect much.

The T3 cycle, however, is a function of both use (exercise) and

de-iodization. That might maintain a strong cycle, even with T3 meds.

> ...Oh by the way I don't test for TSH any more, the

> doc. said since I don't dose by it there's no since in testing for it.

> I just test FT3 & FT4.

Seems reasonable to me, although the TSH is so cheap, they usually

include it in regular thyroid panels. You actually have to work to NOT

get it.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

In Europe they check T3 and T4 everytime you request complete blood check.

>

> Thanks Chuck. You mean if your TSH is high at 3pm even though your

> FT3 is high too?...

The circadian studies we've been posting are for " normal " thyroid

function. In those cycles, T3 peaks 1-2 hours after the TSH. I would

expect a different " peak " in T4 and TSH for T4 medication, depending on

when you take it. If you stop taking your meds before a blood draw, then

some of the old circadian rhythm may appear, but I would not really

expect much.

The T3 cycle, however, is a function of both use (exercise) and

de-iodization. That might maintain a strong cycle, even with T3 meds.

> ...Oh by the way I don't test for TSH any more, the

> doc. said since I don't dose by it there's no since in testing for it.

> I just test FT3 & FT4.

Seems reasonable to me, although the TSH is so cheap, they usually

include it in regular thyroid panels. You actually have to work to NOT

get it.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

They are smarter there...

-- Re: Re: thyroid test results

In Europe they check T3 and T4 everytime you request complete blood check.

>

> Thanks Chuck. You mean if your TSH is high at 3pm even though your

> FT3 is high too?...

The circadian studies we've been posting are for " normal " thyroid

function. In those cycles, T3 peaks 1-2 hours after the TSH. I would

expect a different " peak " in T4 and TSH for T4 medication, depending on

when you take it. If you stop taking your meds before a blood draw, then

some of the old circadian rhythm may appear, but I would not really

expect much.

The T3 cycle, however, is a function of both use (exercise) and

de-iodization. That might maintain a strong cycle, even with T3 meds.

> ...Oh by the way I don't test for TSH any more, the

> doc. said since I don't dose by it there's no since in testing for it.

> I just test FT3 & FT4.

Seems reasonable to me, although the TSH is so cheap, they usually

include it in regular thyroid panels. You actually have to work to NOT

get it.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Ariun Nar,

You wrote:

>

> In Europe they check T3 and T4 everytime you request complete blood check.

I have been told by lots of folks in the UK, that they routinely check

only TSH and T4. If the doctor requests a T3 with that, the labs will

refuse to do it. The only way is to order the T3 test by itself and give

a medical explanation for why an unusual test was needed.

In the U.S., HMOs will often dictate the T3 resin uptake test, rather

than the much more expensive FT3, even though that gives both

information about conversion and binding, while the resin uptake only

gives an inaccurate estimate of binding.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

frees

> From: Chuck B <gumboyayacox (DOT) net <mailto:gumboyaya% 40cox.net> >

> Subject: Re: Re: thyroid test results

> hypothyroidism <mailto:hypothyroid ism%40group

s.com>

> Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 11:35 PM

>

> Bev,

[Guest guest]

I had my blood test done this morning. It was a student who tried to draw blood.

When she asked, I told her that I come there a few times a year for my hypo. She

said her 15 year old daughter takes Synthroid since she was 9 and dady takes

Synthroid too. I mentioned about Osteoporosis and breast cancer. She was so

shocked! She did not know anything about the side effects and I knew better

about hypo than her.

folks, I am convinced with the dicussions here.

Thanks.

From: <res075oh@...>

Subject: Re: thyroid test results

hypothyroidism

Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 3:38 PM

So would anyone else, given a total absence of supporting evidence.

Unless there's some I haven't seen...

Especially since the hormone molecule in Synthroid is bio-identical to

that produced by your body; and that is Armour.

...

...

> He was so surprised that people get breast cancer from Synthroid..

[Guest guest]

so what do mean about Syn and breast cancer?

From: <res075oh@...>

Subject: Re: thyroid test results

hypothyroidism

Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 3:38 PM

So would anyone else, given a total absence of supporting evidence.

Unless there's some I haven't seen...

Especially since the hormone molecule in Synthroid is bio-identical to

that produced by your body; and that is Armour.

...

...

> He was so surprised that people get breast cancer from Synthroid..

[Guest guest]

When you say a student who ³tried² to draw blood, do you mean she was

unsuccessful?

sue

On 9/16/08 11:28 AM, " Ariun Nar " <dreamcatcher6700@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> I had my blood test done this morning. It was a student who tried to draw

> blood. When she asked, I told her that I come there a few times a year for my

> hypo. She said her 15 year old daughter takes Synthroid since she was 9 and

> dady takes Synthroid too. I mentioned about Osteoporosis and breast cancer.

> She was so shocked! She did not know anything about the side effects and I

> knew better about hypo than her.

>

> folks, I am convinced with the dicussions here.

>

> Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Hi Betty,

 

What is the best thyroid drug to take?

 

ARC

From: Betty <bjshamrock@...>

Subject: Re: Re: thyroid test results

hypothyroidism

Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 9:14 AM

I am not. Even though I take armour I don't think it is the only or best

thyroid drug to take.

Betty

Re: thyroid test results

> Yes,

>

>> Are you guys also members of NaturalThyroidHormones group? I

> get over 100 email

>> a day from the both groups.

>>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Ariun Nar,

You wrote:

>

> ... I mentioned about

> Osteoporosis and breast cancer. She was so shocked! She did not know

> anything about the side effects and I knew better about hypo than her.

The following citations are from Shomon, who comments that the

preponderance of evidence is consistent with these conclusions, that

levothyroxine, even at thyroid suppressive doses is not associated with

ANY increased risk of osteoporosis:

A study released in June, 2000, at the World Congress on Osteoporosis in

Chicago, Illinois, found that taking thyroxine (i.e., Synthroid) does

not increase the risk of osteoporosis. The research, presented by Dr.

Stenstrom of the University of Gothenburg in Sweden, studied more

than 750 women who were taking prescribed thyroid medication for thyroid

disease. Over an 18 month period, bone mineral density was measured, and

compared to a control group who were not taking thyroid hormone. No

differences were noted in bone mineral density between those taking the

thyroid hormone, and the control group. An October, 1998 study reported

on in the Journal of Gynecological Endocrinology found that

levothyroxine suppressive therapy, if carefully carried out and

monitored, has no significant effect on bone mass. ( Gynecol Endocrinol

1998 Oct;12(5):333-7, " Bone mineral density in premenopausal women

receiving levothyroxine suppressive therapy. " ).

The highly regarded Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism

found that even " suppressive, " levothyroxine therapy -- prescribing

medicine that lowers TSH levels to hyperthyroid levels below normal

range -- if carefully carried out and monitored, has no significant

effect on bone metabolism or bone mass. ( J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1994

Apr;78(4):818-23, " Carefully monitored levothyroxine suppressive therapy

is not associated with bone loss in premenopausal women. " )

A major thyroid-related journal, Thyroid, found that long-term

levothyroxine therapy using suppressive doses has no significant adverse

effects on bone. (Thyroid, 1995 Feb;5(1):13-7, " Suppressive doses of

thyroxine do not accelerate age-related bone loss in late postmenopausal

women. " )

Finally, in 1998, the Journal of Hormonal and Metabolic Research found

that there was no difference in bone mineral density between thyroid

patients and controls, and that the main factor in bone density and bone

turnover is menopausal status. The researchers found that slightly

suppressive levothyroxine doses constitute neither an actual risk factor

for bone loss nor, consequently, for osteoporotic fractures. (Horm Metab

Res 1995 Nov;27(11):503-7, " A slightly suppressive dose of L-thyroxine

does not affect bone turnover and bone mineral density in pre- and

postmenopausal women with nontoxic goitre. " )

Here is another one from S.:

Study Finds Thyroid Drug Cuts Colon Cancer Risk by 50%

Tuesday November 1, 2005

The thyroid hormone replacement drug, levothyroxine, has been found to

reduce by half the risk of colorectal cancer. These findings -- the

results of research project done by a joint US-Israeli team -- were

announced at a meeting of the American Association Cancer Research -

Prevention Branch. Colorectal cancer is the second most common cause of

cancer deaths in the U.S.

Almost 150,000 new cases are reported each year, and almost 60,000

people are expected to die of colorectal cancer in 2005.

There are some interesting connections:

* Colorectal cancer -- and in particular, colon cancer on the right

side of the body, is associated with a higher incidence of thyroid cancer.

* Hypothyroidism (an underactive thyroid) has a negative effect on

colon function, which may contribute to increased risk of colorectal cancer

In the research, more than 2000 pairs of patients were studied. In each

pair, one patient had been taking levothyroxine to treat hypothyroidism

for five years or more, while the control subject was someone of similar

age, gender, and other factors, who was not taking levothyroxine.

Even after adjusting for factors protective against colorectal cancer --

engaging in sports and exericse, and eating larger quantitites of

vegetables -- the researchers still found that the long-term use of

levothyroxine alone resulted in a 50% reduction in colorectal cancer risk.

You should stop trying to frighten people with fairy tales.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

The " best " is the one that works for you. Personally I take Armour. I was on

synthroid for 19 years and it did nothing for me. Armour works for me, but

it may not work for you. You have to do trial and error to find the one that

is right for you. Just make sure your adrenals are working because all the

thyroid hormone in the world won't help you if your body can't get the

hormone into your cells. That is where the adrenals come in.

Nancie

-- Re: Re: thyroid test results

hypothyroidism

Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 9:14 AM

I am not. Even though I take armour I don't think it is the only or best

thyroid drug to take.

Betty

Re: thyroid test results

> Yes,

>

>> Are you guys also members of NaturalThyroidHormones group? I

> get over 100 email

>> a day from the both groups.

>>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I can't tell you the best. It is what works for you. I do better on armour,

but have tried others to see what worked. For some it is synthroid, for

others levothroid, and others levoxly. So there is no number one best.

Betty

Re: thyroid test results

> Yes,

>

>> Are you guys also members of NaturalThyroidHormones group? I

> get over 100 email

>> a day from the both groups.

>>

>

>

>

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