Re: Help! Introduced Hazelnut Yogurt

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Can anyone help me with some input? My son is 10 years old with autism. He

has been SCD 100% for 7 1/2 months. Last week we introduced hazelnut

yogurt made from custom probiotics yogurt starter. He got 1/4 teaspoon

every other day. This week we increased it to 1/2 teaspoon which he's had

on Sat.,Mon, and Wed. We are seeing difficulty falling asleep, increased

eye stims and stimming in general, and decreased spontaneous language. He

is regressing. What is going on? Is this a sign that the yogurt is not

good for him? He also takes custom probiotics L Acidophilus ( 1 level

small scoop ) in the morning and before bed.

Theresa

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RE: Help! Introduced Hazelnut Yogurt

Can anyone help me with some input? My son is 10 years old with autism.

He

has been SCD 100% for 7 1/2 months. Last week we introduced hazelnut

yogurt made from custom probiotics yogurt starter. He got 1/4 teaspoon

every other day. This week we increased it to 1/2 teaspoon which he's

had

on Sat.,Mon, and Wed. We are seeing difficulty falling asleep, increased

eye stims and stimming in general, and decreased spontaneous language. He

is regressing. What is going on? Is this a sign that the yogurt is not

good for him? He also takes custom probiotics L Acidophilus ( 1 level

small scoop ) in the morning and before bed.

Theresa

[Guest guest]

RE: Help! Introduced Hazelnut Yogurt

Can anyone help me with some input? My son is 10 years old with autism.

He

has been SCD 100% for 7 1/2 months. Last week we introduced hazelnut

yogurt made from custom probiotics yogurt starter. He got 1/4 teaspoon

every other day. This week we increased it to 1/2 teaspoon which he's

had

on Sat.,Mon, and Wed. We are seeing difficulty falling asleep,

increased

eye stims and stimming in general, and decreased spontaneous language.

He

is regressing. What is going on? Is this a sign that the yogurt is not

good for him? He also takes custom probiotics L Acidophilus ( 1 level

small scoop ) in the morning and before bed.

Theresa

[Guest guest]

We are seeing difficulty falling asleep,

> increased

> eye stims and stimming in general, and decreased spontaneous

language.

Has he tolerated hazelnuts before? I think it sounds like die-off -

a lot of probiotics going into his body and crowding out the

baddies. I would like to see a combination of bad and good, though.

Have you noticed ANY improvements? You could back off either the

yogurt or the probiotic and maybe give one or the other for a few

days and see how that goes.

Also, even though the recommendation is 1/4t and increase gradually,

some kids need to say at the lower amounts for a longer period of

time. has been on the goat yogurt for several weeks now -

still not more than a couple of spoons per day... He's a very

sensitive guy when it comes to certain things.

Take care,

son - 5yo ASD, SCD one year and one day

[Guest guest]

> We are seeing difficulty falling asleep,

> increased

> eye stims and stimming in general, and decreased spontaneous

language.

Are you putting anything in the yogurt, to flavor it? Just wondering, might

help us know for sure what's causing this effect.

in NC

Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate;

, age 3; and , 21 mos

All SCD since 1/26/04

[Guest guest]

> We are seeing difficulty falling asleep,

> > increased

> > eye stims and stimming in general, and decreased spontaneous

> language.

>

>

> Has he tolerated hazelnuts before? I think it sounds like die-off -

It has to be stressed that the yoghurt we all make at home - goat,

cow or nut - is extremely powerful. It cannot be compared to any

store bought product. And then if it's dripped, the concentration of

probiotics is even higher.

I do think you are seeing die off.

I am very curious about his poop. It will tell me more.

Marjan

Netherlands

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,

My son has eaten hazelnuts and had hazelnut flour before with no

problems. Right now we are not seeing improvement. I guess we have to wait

more time. He was due for yogurt today, which we did not give him because

he was so out of it yesterday. This morning he blew his nose a lot, maybe

seasonal allergies ? I think we'll try yogurt again and go back down to 1/4

teaspoon every other day and do this for weeks.

This is so frustrating. He was doing pretty well with just the

custom probiotics. My son is extremely sensitive I guess. Could this be

considered improvement ? My son said to me this morning , " Let you bite

me. " This is a game we play together. I am the dog or monster and he tells

me to bite him which I do with snarling noises . He usually would say only

" bite me or I want bite me. " Today I noticed he added the , " Let you " and

then " Bite me " . Also crying this afternoon for his father he said " I go

Daddy " He usually would say " I want Daddy or I want hi to Daddy "

Another question If this is die off do all the weird stims and

behaviors eventually go away and all your left with is the good stuff, like

more language and relatedness?

Theresa

Thanks to all

Re: Help! Introduced Hazelnut Yogurt

We are seeing difficulty falling asleep,

> increased

> eye stims and stimming in general, and decreased spontaneous

language.

Has he tolerated hazelnuts before? I think it sounds like die-off -

a lot of probiotics going into his body and crowding out the

baddies. I would like to see a combination of bad and good, though.

Have you noticed ANY improvements? You could back off either the

yogurt or the probiotic and maybe give one or the other for a few

days and see how that goes.

Also, even though the recommendation is 1/4t and increase gradually,

some kids need to say at the lower amounts for a longer period of

time. has been on the goat yogurt for several weeks now -

still not more than a couple of spoons per day... He's a very

sensitive guy when it comes to certain things.

Take care,

son - 5yo ASD, SCD one year and one day

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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[Guest guest]

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We are putting absolutely nothing in the yogurt to flavor it.

Theresa

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[Guest guest]

Marjan,

My son just had a bowel movement and it looked great, formed and ok.

Re: Help! Introduced Hazelnut Yogurt

> We are seeing difficulty falling asleep,

> > increased

> > eye stims and stimming in general, and decreased spontaneous

> language.

>

>

> Has he tolerated hazelnuts before? I think it sounds like die-off -

It has to be stressed that the yoghurt we all make at home - goat,

cow or nut - is extremely powerful. It cannot be compared to any

store bought product. And then if it's dripped, the concentration of

probiotics is even higher.

I do think you are seeing die off.

I am very curious about his poop. It will tell me more.

Marjan

Netherlands

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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[Guest guest]

> Could this be

> considered improvement ? My son said to me this morning , " Let you

bite

> me. " This is a game we play together. I am the dog or monster and

he tells

> me to bite him which I do with snarling noises . He usually would

say only

> " bite me or I want bite me. " Today I noticed he added the , " Let

you " and

> then " Bite me " . Also crying this afternoon for his father he

said " I go

> Daddy " He usually would say " I want Daddy or I want hi to Daddy "

> Another question If this is die off do all the weird

stims and

> behaviors eventually go away and all your left with is the good

stuff, like

> more language and relatedness?

> Theresa

Hi, I'm not an SLP, but I think that's a language improvement -

getting more of the concepts involved, or something. I can't say that

all the weird stuff will go away - for us, it's been a rollercoaster -

up and downs. However, the overall improvement is steady. I like to

call the bad days hiccups, because he is doing so amazingly well.

Just hang on to the hope, it will carry you far! Just that he

communicates with you at all is something!

Take care,

son - 5yo ASD, SCD one year and one month]