Re: Diet anger

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You

know what makes me angry? Weight Watchers commercials. “Diets don’t

work. Weight Watchers does.” But WW is just another diet. You get these

points and you restrict how much you eat to them and you’re not supposed

to eat anything else once you’ve used them up. WW did not work for me

because diets never worked for me.

Dianna

Diet anger

does anyone else get angry when they think about

all of the years and money they wasted on diets

and all the while thinking they were doing

something that was good for their body, and

were being told it was good for them, only to

realize that all that dieting was actually taking

you further from your goal of health and wellness?

I'm not saying I dwell in that anger but

every once in awhile when someone's post hits me

about diet mentality it just makes me angry.

It makes me even angrier that so many health care

professionals are still recommending diets to

people who have been on millions of them without

success. I know more doctors are learning about

and celebrating the non-diet approach but we still

have a long way to go.

[Guest guest]

Hi there, I understand your anger with WW, But you know a funny thing begins to happen when I do intuitive eating- I end up actullay doing WW. Without even knowing it I have restricted my calories and eaten what I have wanted. Before inuitive eating I was overeating all day like 6 times a day. Now I eat when I am hungry and that turns out to be 3 times a day. Because I think with inuitive eating you bein self regulate without even knowing it. Just some thoughts. Take care khatie Dianna Narciso wrote: You know what makes me angry? Weight Watchers commercials. “Diets don’t work. Weight Watchers does.” But WW is just another diet. You get these points and you restrict how much you eat to them and you’re not supposed to eat anything else once you’ve used them up. WW did not work for me because diets never worked for me. Dianna -----Original Message-----From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of LexieSent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 3:43 AMTo:

IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Diet anger does anyone else get angry when they think aboutall of the years and money they wasted on dietsand all the while thinking they were doing something that was good for their body, andwere being told it was good for them, only torealize that all that dieting was actually takingyou further from your goal of health and wellness?I'm not saying I dwell in that anger butevery once in awhile when someone's post hits meabout diet mentality it just makes me angry.It makes me even angrier that so many health careprofessionals are

still recommending diets topeople who have been on millions of them withoutsuccess. I know more doctors are learning aboutand celebrating the non-diet approach but we stillhave a long way to go.

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For me, the biggest insult is the fact that once you actually go on a diet you

pretty much have to stay on it the rest of your life unless you relearn how to

listen to your body and stop dieting for good. Then you have the initial gain

from not dieting and that throws you in a panic cause you're gaining weight.

Noone tells you all that before you go on a diet, and by the time you realize

it, it's too late. You're in an endless cycle.

Vicki

---- sarmas kimberly wrote:

Hi there,

I understand your anger with WW, But you know a funny thing begins to happen

when I do intuitive eating- I end up actullay doing WW. Without even knowing it

I have restricted my calories and eaten what I have wanted. Before inuitive

eating I was overeating all day like 6 times a day. Now I eat when I am hungry

and that turns out to be 3 times a day. Because I think with inuitive eating you

bein self regulate without even knowing it.

Just some thoughts. Take care

khatie

Dianna Narciso wrote:

You know what makes me angry? Weight Watchers commercials. “Diets

don’t work. Weight Watchers does.” But WW is just another diet. You get these

points and you restrict how much you eat to them and youÂ’re not supposed to eat

anything else once youÂ’ve used them up. WW did not work for me because diets

never worked for me.

Dianna

Diet anger

does anyone else get angry when they think about

all of the years and money they wasted on diets

and all the while thinking they were doing

something that was good for their body, and

were being told it was good for them, only to

realize that all that dieting was actually taking

you further from your goal of health and wellness?

I'm not saying I dwell in that anger but

every once in awhile when someone's post hits me

about diet mentality it just makes me angry.

It makes me even angrier that so many health care

professionals are still recommending diets to

people who have been on millions of them without

success. I know more doctors are learning about

and celebrating the non-diet approach but we still

have a long way to go.

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Honestly with all of the diets I have ever been on WW was the worst.

It helped me the least and it caused me the most damage I think. The

more I did it the angrier I became because I knew I was wasting my

money and I felt like they were all about the money and I didn't know

what else to do and I felt desperate.

>

> You know what makes me angry? Weight Watchers commercials. " Diets

don't

> work. Weight Watchers does. " But WW is just another diet.

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WOW For me, IE is NOTHING like what I was doing

with weight watchers. With WW if I didn't have any

points left I couldn't eat....even if I was

hungry. I wasn't encouraged to take into

consideration what I had already eaten and how

active I had been in order to assess what my

body might need. Nothing about it was individual

and I sure didn't fit the mold! The points I was

allowed were based on some arbitrary chart

created by someone who had never met me, didn't

know my body type or how active or inactive I was.

And if I didn't eat all of the points I was allowed

that too was considered " failure " even if it was

a day when I didn't feel I needed that many points.

They even chose my " goal weight " . I mean, I could

pick any number I wanted but in order to enjoy

" lifetime membership " I had to reach THEIR goal

weight. Again, picked by someone who had never

met me via an arbitrary chart. The only other

option I was given was to do the other WW plan

where I could eat unlimited amounts but only of

certain foods. It led me again and again into

the restrictive and over-eating cycles. I am much

happier and more successful when I just listen to

my own body!

>

> Hi there,

> I understand your anger with WW, But you know a funny thing begins

to happen when I do intuitive eating- I end up actullay doing WW.

Without even knowing it I have restricted my calories and eaten what I

have wanted.

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I agree totally - when i see that commercial starting I mute it or

change the channel. Even worse is the Queen Latifah commercial - I

believe it is Craig. I used to have a lot of respect for that

woman, now I am pretty disgusted. She is just another diet pusher.

Anyone else seen this?

>

> You know what makes me angry? Weight Watchers commercials. " Diets

don't

> work. Weight Watchers does. " But WW is just another diet. You get

these

> points and you restrict how much you eat to them and you're not

supposed

> to eat anything else once you've used them up. WW did not work for

me

> because diets never worked for me.

>

>

>

>

> Dianna

>

> Diet anger

>

> does anyone else get angry when they think about

> all of the years and money they wasted on diets

> and all the while thinking they were doing

> something that was good for their body, and

> were being told it was good for them, only to

> realize that all that dieting was actually taking

> you further from your goal of health and wellness?

> I'm not saying I dwell in that anger but

> every once in awhile when someone's post hits me

> about diet mentality it just makes me angry.

> It makes me even angrier that so many health care

> professionals are still recommending diets to

> people who have been on millions of them without

> success. I know more doctors are learning about

> and celebrating the non-diet approach but we still

> have a long way to go.

>

[Guest guest]

I haven't seen the commercial with Queen Latifah but I knew she was advertising for Craig now. I've lost a lot of respect for her too. I used to admire her because she seemed happy as she was but I guess she got sucked into the "diet cause you're not good enough as you are" world. sanderoo1975 wrote: I agree totally - when i see that commercial starting I mute it or change the channel. Even worse is the Queen Latifah commercial - I believe it is Craig. I used to have a lot of

respect for that woman, now I am pretty disgusted. She is just another diet pusher. Anyone else seen this?>> You know what makes me angry? Weight Watchers commercials. "Diets don't> work. Weight Watchers does." But WW is just another diet. You get these> points and you restrict how much you eat to them and you're not supposed> to eat anything else once you've used them up. WW did not work for me> because diets never worked for me.> > > > > Dianna> > Diet anger> > does anyone else get angry when they think about> all of the years and money they wasted on diets> and all the while thinking they were doing > something that was good for their body, and> were being told it was good for them, only to> realize that all that dieting was actually taking> you further from your goal of health and wellness?> I'm not saying I dwell in that anger but> every once in awhile when someone's post hits me> about diet mentality it just makes me angry.> It makes me even angrier that so many health care>

professionals are still recommending diets to> people who have been on millions of them without> success. I know more doctors are learning about> and celebrating the non-diet approach but we still> have a long way to go.>

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Hi Lexie...I'm a WW survivor too! I joined WW in November of 2002 and was a member until the spring of 2005 and went back in the summer of 2006. I was so miserable those years. I was constantly thinking about food and I was always hungry! I would eat a tiny breakfast (I tried to keep it to 2 or 3 points) a slightly bigger lunch, and then I would spend all evening eating! I was scared to use any points until later in the day because I didn't want to spend my evenings hungry. Better to starve myself all day but still be able to have something higher in points for supper. I was never satisfied...unless I cheated and ate something that put me over my points for the day. And if I exceeded my points by even 1 little point...I would spend the rest of the day eating. I had already gone over my points so I may as well enjoy myself! I never learned how to change my "lifestyle" which they go on about...it was all about

starving myself now so I still have points for later. Cause I knew once the points were gone I would be so stressed that I couldn't eat anything that I'd end up binging. My meetings were on Mondays after work...so I usually ate all evening on Sunday because I was nervous about it. And also to prevent myself from losing weight...I found it so embarrasing to get their little weight loss stickers, ribbons, etc. Then I would spend Monday evening binging too because I would starve myself all day Monday so my weight would be down! And don't get me started on the Core plan where you can eat "whatever you want" as long as it's on their list. I remember baking this oatmeal, splenda stuff. It was hard as a rock and had no taste but oh it was delicious cause you could eat as much as you wanted because everything was Core. And baking stuff with low fat cheese slices because they were Core. And eating whole bags of popcorn

because they were core. I don't even like any of that stuff!! Lexie wrote: WOW For me, IE is NOTHING like what I was doing with weight watchers. With WW if I didn't have any points left I couldn't eat....even if I was hungry. I wasn't encouraged to take into consideration what I had already eaten and how active I had been in order to assess what my body might need. Nothing about it was individual and I sure didn't fit the mold! The points I was

allowed were based on some arbitrary chart created by someone who had never met me, didn't know my body type or how active or inactive I was. And if I didn't eat all of the points I was allowedthat too was considered "failure" even if it wasa day when I didn't feel I needed that many points.They even chose my "goal weight". I mean, I could pick any number I wanted but in order to enjoy "lifetime membership" I had to reach THEIR goal weight. Again, picked by someone who had never met me via an arbitrary chart. The only other option I was given was to do the other WW plan where I could eat unlimited amounts but only ofcertain foods. It led me again and again intothe restrictive and over-eating cycles. I am muchhappier and more successful when I just listen tomy own body! >> Hi there,> I understand your anger with WW, But you know a funny thing begins to happen when I do intuitive eating- I end up actullay doing WW. Without even knowing it I have restricted my calories and eaten what I have wanted.

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Ah, memories of my disastrous WW days (many years ago)...

My friend and I would of course starve ourselves and use diuretics

all day Wednesday (before our meeting), and then after the meeting

we'd head straight to the nearest Mcs and eat ourselves

stupid ... Looking back, it was horribly dysfunctional behaviour, and

we knew it, but we still had that faint hope that it would work.

I joined several times over the years, but each time never lasted

very long.

I guess some people - lots of people! - are just not cut out for

dieting, huh? Who'd have thunk it? LOL

S

>

> Hi Lexie...I'm a WW survivor too! ...

My meetings were on Mondays after work...so I usually ate all evening

on Sunday because I was nervous about it. And also to prevent myself

from losing weight...I found it so embarrasing to get their little

weight loss stickers, ribbons, etc. Then I would spend Monday

evening binging too because I would starve myself all day Monday so

my weight would be down!

[Guest guest]

Looking back on dieting, you end up spending most of your time trying to figure out how to cheat on the diet and still lose weight! I have been a disordered eater since I was a child but WW really allowed me to develop and hone my destructive eating habits. ;)sigi_gee wrote: Ah, memories of my disastrous WW days (many years ago)...My friend and I would of course starve ourselves and use diuretics all day Wednesday (before our meeting), and then after the

meeting we'd head straight to the nearest Mcs and eat ourselves stupid ... Looking back, it was horribly dysfunctional behaviour, and we knew it, but we still had that faint hope that it would work.I joined several times over the years, but each time never lasted very long.I guess some people - lots of people! - are just not cut out for dieting, huh? Who'd have thunk it? LOLS>> Hi Lexie...I'm a WW survivor too! ...My meetings were on Mondays after work...so I usually ate all evening on Sunday because I was nervous about it. And also to prevent myself from losing weight...I found it so embarrasing to get their little weight loss stickers, ribbons, etc. Then I would spend Monday evening binging too because I would starve

myself all day Monday so my weight would be down!

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I just remembered something else...the last time I was on WW (but I was seriously doubting the whole program and debating quitting), I posted on their message boards about how I thought WW had given me an eating disorder. I was attacked! How dare I say anythign wrong about WW, I obviously wasn't doing it right, it couldn't have given me an eating disorder I must have already had it etc etc etc. I think that was the last time I ever posted on there. It's like they were all brainwashed...and nothing could be wrong with WW, something was wrong with me for getting an eating disorder and something was wrong with them for not losing weight.Kipkabob wrote: Looking back on dieting, you end up spending most of your time trying to figure out how to cheat on the diet and still lose weight! I have been a disordered eater since I was a child but WW really allowed me to develop and hone my destructive eating habits. ;)sigi_gee <sigi_gee.au> wrote: Ah, memories of my disastrous WW days (many years ago)...My friend and I would of course starve ourselves and use diuretics all day Wednesday (before our meeting), and then after the meeting we'd head straight to the nearest Mcs and eat ourselves stupid ... Looking back, it was horribly dysfunctional behaviour, and

we knew it, but we still had that faint hope that it would work.I joined several times over the years, but each time never lasted very long.I guess some people - lots of people! - are just not cut out for dieting, huh? Who'd have thunk it? LOLS>> Hi Lexie...I'm a WW survivor too! ...My meetings were on Mondays after work...so I usually ate all evening on Sunday because I was nervous about it. And also to prevent myself from losing weight...I found it so embarrasing to get their little weight loss stickers, ribbons, etc. Then I would spend Monday evening binging too because I would starve myself all day Monday so my weight would be down! Instant

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I agree, Weight Watchers probably caused me more long term damage than any other

diet I

have tried, and I have tried MANY over the past 40 years. I lasted about 10

months on it, 10

months of constant hunger and deprivation. When I finally went off, I went OFF.

I never

binged in my life until I fell off the Weight Watchers wagon. I recall trying to

cram enough

cake into my mouth that it would cause me to pass out. I never passed out, but I

would get a

little dizzy. Those binges were frightening. In the years that followed, I

continued to have

binges, and still do on occasion, but nothing like those first binges I had

after Weight

Watchers.

B.

[Guest guest]

Did you peak at my WW food journal?? It sounds like me! Except I

would " starve " myself from Sunday afternoon until after Monday weigh-

in....and after have a nice fat binge!

Those were NOT good days.....

I LOVED the ribbon. We didn't get stickers or anything but I would

have loved those too. We had a " biggest loser " gift. If you won that

week you had to bring a gift back for someone else the next week.

I was all about the external rewards. Probably because I wasn't

getting any internal rewards!

>

> Hi Lexie...I'm a WW survivor too! I joined WW in November of 2002

and was a member until the spring of 2005 and went back in the summer

of 2006. I was so miserable those years. I was constantly thinking

about food and I was always hungry!

[Guest guest]

You are not kidding!!! Man I was trying so dang hard.

I kept meticulous records of every morsel I put in my

mouth and week after failing week I showed it to my

" leader " and every week she'd give me new advice...

often advice that contradicted earlier advice.

Never once did she (or I) consider that this just

wasn't right for me because if WW doesn't work

there is something wrong with YOU, not WW.

I understand people fiercly protecting it. Because if

there is something wrong with it then their new magic

bullet won't work and like so many of us they don't

know what else to do. It's like taking their hope away.

I felt like WW HAD to work because I thought I had

tried everything else.

IntuitiveEating_Support , Kipkabob

wrote:

>

> I just remembered something else...the last time I was on WW (but I

was seriously doubting the whole program and debating quitting), I

posted on their message boards about how I thought WW had given me an

eating disorder. I was attacked! How dare I say anythign wrong

about WW, I obviously wasn't doing it right, it couldn't have given

me an eating disorder I must have already had it etc etc etc. I

think that was the last time I ever posted on there. It's like they

were all brainwashed...and nothing could be wrong with WW, something

was wrong with me for getting an eating disorder and something was

wrong with them for not losing weight.

>

[Guest guest]

We got "I did it" stickers and activity stickers everyweek if we had done something special or exercised a lot. And we got 5 pound stickers. We didn't do the biggest loser gift thing. Looking back I can't believe I kept going as long as I did! I hardly lost any weight after the first 6 months and all it did was make me feel bad about myself. I was so cranky too! The least little thing and I would flip out on my sister who I was living with. It just makes me sad when I think of all the time and money I wasted.Lexie wrote: Did you peak at my WW food journal?? It sounds like me! Except I would "starve" myself from Sunday afternoon until after Monday weigh-in....and after have a nice fat binge!Those were NOT good days.....I LOVED the ribbon. We didn't get stickers or anything but I would have loved those too. We had a "biggest loser" gift. If you won that week you had to bring a gift back for someone else the next week.I was all about the external rewards. Probably because I wasn't getting any internal rewards!>> Hi Lexie...I'm a WW survivor too! I joined WW in November of 2002 and was a member until the spring of 2005 and went back in the summer of 2006. I was so

miserable those years. I was constantly thinking about food and I was always hungry!

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Yes I understand them protecting it too and I would have done it at one point (pardon the pun) as well. They couldn't handle that there could be something wrong with WW. By the way Lexie...I love your name! I had a great aunt named Lexie when I was little and I always liked the name. If I ever have a little girl, her name will be Lexie or is.Lexie wrote: I understand people fiercly protecting it. Because if there is something wrong with it then

their new magic bullet won't work and like so many of us they don'tknow what else to do. It's like taking their hope away.I felt like WW HAD to work because I thought I hadtried everything else.IntuitiveEating_Support , Kipkabob wrote:>> I just remembered something else...the last time I was on WW (but I was seriously doubting the whole program and debating quitting), I posted on their message boards about how I thought WW had given me an eating disorder. I was attacked! How dare I say anythign wrong about WW, I obviously wasn't doing it right, it couldn't have given me an eating disorder I must have already had it etc etc etc. I think that was the last time I ever posted on there. It's like they were all brainwashed...and nothing could be wrong with WW, something was wrong with me

for getting an eating disorder and something was wrong with them for not losing weight.>

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Hi everyone, I'm new here! I've been a " disordered " eater since at

least freshmen year in college. Although I did have a few sane years

mixed in.

I understand the diet anger, but I researve my true fury for the

government and scientific community who foisted low fat/ low cal on

us for years without ANY shred of evidence that it was healthful.

When I realized how little evidence there was for any particular diet

strategy, I nearly had a fit. I mean, I didn't expect much really

from slim fast and weight watchers made me anxious and obsessive. But

the scientific community has failed us all. All this time we have

been told that if we only cut out fat and lowered calories we will be

healthier and now it turns out they have no idea if thats true and

NEVER had any idea. All this time we were killing ourselves, berating

ourselves and ultimately hating ourselves and there was never any

reason for it.

Can you all see the smoke coming out of my ears now???

>

> does anyone else get angry when they think about

> all of the years and money they wasted on diets

> and all the while thinking they were doing

> something that was good for their body, and

> were being told it was good for them, only to

> realize that all that dieting was actually taking

> you further from your goal of health and wellness?

> I'm not saying I dwell in that anger but

> every once in awhile when someone's post hits me

> about diet mentality it just makes me angry.

> It makes me even angrier that so many health care

> professionals are still recommending diets to

> people who have been on millions of them without

> success. I know more doctors are learning about

> and celebrating the non-diet approach but we still

> have a long way to go.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks! I liked the name so much I picked it as a

nickname in highschool....now almost 20 years later

everyone calls me Lexie except my family.

When I look back at my WW days I too am sad about

all the money I spent and all the crazy things I

did but in one way only I don't regret it.

I think it was the stark contrast that allowed me

to grasp the ideas in Am I Hungry? so quickly.

Not that I jumped out of the gate and picked it up.

It's taken me a couple of years to really " get it "

all-together and I learn more every day.

I wonder how eager I would have been if I hadn't

been coming off of WW.

-- In IntuitiveEating_Support , Kipkabob

wrote:

>

> Yes I understand them protecting it too and I would have done it at

one point (pardon the pun) as well. They couldn't handle that there

could be something wrong with WW.

>

> By the way Lexie...I love your name! I had a great aunt named

Lexie when I was little and I always liked the name. If I ever have

a little girl, her name will be Lexie or is.

>

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KipKabob mentioned... baking stuff with low fat cheese slices because

they were Core. And eating whole bags of popcorn because they were

core. I don't even like any of that stuff!!

Hahahahaha!!! I haven't eaten a bag of microwave popcorn since I quit

WW several weeks ago! WW totally burned me out on the stuff " A

WHOLE BAG FOR ONLY 2 POINTS! " Well YIPPEE! What A Load OF DOODY!

Hahahahaha!

[Guest guest]

I too am not happy to realize that the 'scientific' community is a

BOUGHT & PAID for one for the most part. Any lab or study is usually

backed by government or special interest money. Is it any wonder that

the 'results' neatly fit into the (desired?!?) objectives of those

that fund the study?!? I believe that the diet and related products

industry is a multi BILLION $/year one so it seems quite reasonable to

assume that some of the profits will be plowed back into 'proving'

that their products are needed?!?

A while back there were articles in such publications as Business Week

that questioned if the cholesterol-lowering statin drugs were anything

more than Vitamin D?!? (look about mid way thru article)

http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi79.html

My answer is to IGNORE them and listen to my body instead! - Katcha

> I understand the diet anger, but I researve my true fury for the

> government and scientific community who foisted low fat/ low cal on

> us for years without ANY shred of evidence that it was healthful.

> When I realized how little evidence there was for any particular diet

> strategy, I nearly had a fit. I mean, I didn't expect much really

> from slim fast and weight watchers made me anxious and obsessive. But

> the scientific community has failed us all. All this time we have

> been told that if we only cut out fat and lowered calories we will be

> healthier and now it turns out they have no idea if thats true and

> NEVER had any idea. All this time we were killing ourselves, berating

> ourselves and ultimately hating ourselves and there was never any

> reason for it.

>

> Can you all see the smoke coming out of my ears now???

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I don't regret that I went to WW, I just regret that I stayed there so long trying when it obviously wasn't working. Yes it worked for the first 6 months when it was new and exciting and something to focus on in my boring life. But after that honeymoon phase it clearly wasn't working and I kept going for 2 years!! But it brought me to IE eventually so something good came out of it! Lexie wrote: Thanks! I liked the name so much I picked it as a nickname in

highschool....now almost 20 years later everyone calls me Lexie except my family.When I look back at my WW days I too am sad aboutall the money I spent and all the crazy things I did but in one way only I don't regret it.I think it was the stark contrast that allowed meto grasp the ideas in Am I Hungry? so quickly.Not that I jumped out of the gate and picked it up.It's taken me a couple of years to really "get it" all-together and I learn more every day.I wonder how eager I would have been if I hadn'tbeen coming off of WW. -- In IntuitiveEating_Support , Kipkabob wrote:>> Yes I understand them protecting it too and I would have done it at one point (pardon the pun) as well. They couldn't handle that there could be something wrong with WW.> > By the way Lexie...I

love your name! I had a great aunt named Lexie when I was little and I always liked the name. If I ever have a little girl, her name will be Lexie or is.>

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I have had microwave popcorn once since starting IE (I got a package in a gift bag thing) and I really didn't like it. I hate how it gets stuck in your teeth and you keep finding pieces of it for day...even after flossing! Where they hide I don't know! I do like the popcorn at the movies and get it everynow and then but I have to have the seasonings on it. And then it's so salty you feel so bloated the next day...my sister and I call it a "popcorn hangover." smartypants0141 wrote: KipKabob mentioned... baking stuff with low fat cheese slices becausethey were Core. And eating whole bags of popcorn because they werecore. I don't even like any of that stuff!!Hahahahaha!!! I haven't eaten a bag of microwave popcorn since I quitWW several weeks ago! WW totally burned me out on the stuff "AWHOLE BAG FOR ONLY 2 POINTS!" Well YIPPEE! What A Load OF DOODY!Hahahahaha!

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I have had microwave popcorn once since starting IE (I got a package in a gift bag thing) and I really didn't like it. I hate how it gets stuck in your teeth and you keep finding pieces of it for day...even after flossing! Where they hide I don't know! I do like the popcorn at the movies and get it everynow and then but I have to have the seasonings on it. And then it's so salty you feel so bloated the next day...my sister and I call it a "popcorn hangover." smartypants0141 wrote: KipKabob mentioned... baking stuff with low fat cheese slices becausethey were Core. And eating whole bags of popcorn because they werecore. I don't even like any of that stuff!!Hahahahaha!!! I haven't eaten a bag of microwave popcorn since I quitWW several weeks ago! WW totally burned me out on the stuff "AWHOLE BAG FOR ONLY 2 POINTS!" Well YIPPEE! What A Load OF DOODY!Hahahahaha!

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> My answer is to IGNORE them and listen to my body instead! - Katcha

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Absolutely! I have seen so many completely inacurate health reports in

the main streem media that I now believe absolutely nothing I read or

hear until I have checked out the actual studies behaind the reports.

Its frightening.

-Jodie

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Horrible, I know!! How completely and utterly disrespectful to destroy that! But, let me tell you something - as wrong as it was, it was one of the most liberating feelings in the world and I highly recommend it! Down with diets!!!

I love it! Good for you!

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