Re: well according to my drs you are all making this up

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Nan ~

If they did their homework, they wouldnt

be making total asses out of themselves.....

A matter of fact, they are hemrrhoids on

the ass of society, right along with the

FDA, drug companies, and plastic surgeons

that lie.

You know the truth, and you have the facts,

as you live them.

Sending you lots of love, hugs, and hope,

God Bless YOU ~ DedeCheck out AOL Money Finance's list of the hottest products and top money wasters of 2007.

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Nan,

Sounds like some doctors I have been to in my day. I absolutely

avoid doctors who treat me that way.

Lynda

At 07:41 AM 11/22/2007, you wrote:

>I went to two drs yesterday, both gave me very long lectures which

>they explained how this was all in my head and that there is not one

>speck of evidence to say implants are not safe. I just listened,

>said a few things. One said well what did the drs tell you, and I

>said they like to say it is depression, then he ran with it. He said

>he has at last figured out my problem, I am severely depressed. I

>asked how clogged lymph nodes had anything to do with depression and

>he cleared his throat and said well that has nothing to do with your

>being sick. IT was CRAZY> My mom just sat there through it in total

>disbelief. Then I had to PAY for this advice. The other dr who was

>about 25, told me I had CATATONIC depression, pretty serious stuff to

>say, but she rolled it off like she was so sure. I then asked about

>my infections, she told me I had none and it was again in my head. I

>said I want a urine test, to which she called later and said, oops,

>you do have an infection but I don't know what it is or what to tell

>you, we don't treat that here. So here I sit with an infection of

>some unknown sort, and gone through a full day of BS. And I actually

>feel okay. This is the standard work up I usually get so I was not

>surprised, but it is always stressful. So they said it is fibro, gave

>me NO information on it at all, the Attending Dr came in for 2

>minutes and never came back. She was completely condescending and

>accused me of trying to collect diability. Oh, and the dr said I did

>not need my implants removed or any of the other surgeries. I said

>that is fine, if I would have continued to listen to you and not my

>own body I might be dead right now. What a strange and horrible

>day. But to all of you out there, this is what you get. Be very

>careful who you go to. My mom actually called this dr ahead of time

>to go over everything and the nurse said oh yes we treat sick women

>all the time, so we still can't figure out what the heck happened.

>He wants all my records so he can disprove what happened to me.

>Sorry so long, really makes you feel crazy. Nan

>

>

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Oh Nan,These doctors are the crazy ones. When I had my staph infection (which seems to be coming back again), the smell was so bad, I was making my nurses gag to the point where they were about to barf.I never had any fever with my staph infection. I'm not sure about the US but here in Canada up until yesterday a family doctor could perform plastic surgery of any type. The Ontario College of Physicians and Surgeons made it so a Family doctor cannot call themselves a Surgeon and do surgery unless they actually have the diploma to back it up.What I'm trying to say is slowly but surely there are changes coming that our voices will be heard.Here's a thought, maybe the next time you go to the Drs., don't tell them about the breast implants and I have a feeling you'll get much better care and respect. When you're better, then give them hell.Just a thought.Please hang in there. Love Tracinnnttwilliams

<nnnttwilliams@...> wrote: I went to two drs yesterday, both gave me very long lectures which they explained how this was all in my head and that there is not one speck of evidence to say implants are not safe. I just listened, said a few things. One said well what did the drs tell you, and I said they like to say it is depression, then he ran with it. He said he has at last figured out my problem, I am severely depressed. I asked how clogged lymph nodes had anything to do with depression and he cleared his throat and said well

that has nothing to do with your being sick. IT was CRAZY> My mom just sat there through it in total disbelief. Then I had to PAY for this advice. The other dr who was about 25, told me I had CATATONIC depression, pretty serious stuff to say, but she rolled it off like she was so sure. I then asked about my infections, she told me I had none and it was again in my head. I said I want a urine test, to which she called later and said, oops, you do have an infection but I don't know what it is or what to tell you, we don't treat that here. So here I sit with an infection of some unknown sort, and gone through a full day of BS. And I actually feel okay. This is the standard work up I usually get so I was not surprised, but it is always stressful. So they said it is fibro, gave me NO information on it at all, the Attending Dr came in for 2 minutes and never came back. She was completely condescending

and accused me of trying to collect diability. Oh, and the dr said I did not need my implants removed or any of the other surgeries. I said that is fine, if I would have continued to listen to you and not my own body I might be dead right now. What a strange and horrible day. But to all of you out there, this is what you get. Be very careful who you go to. My mom actually called this dr ahead of time to go over everything and the nurse said oh yes we treat sick women all the time, so we still can't figure out what the heck happened. He wants all my records so he can disprove what happened to me. Sorry so long, really makes you feel crazy. Nan No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill

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Thanks Traci, are you doing better? I am sure you have been through

it too. I barely remember the last few weeks with all the running

around to drs and being prescribed medicines. GET THIS, they also

told me I was probably sick from taking supplements, because supp are

not FDA approved, now that is a good one! Nan

--- In , TM McIntosh <prowlermeow@...>

wrote:

>

> Oh Nan,

> These doctors are the crazy ones. When I had my staph infection

(which seems to be coming back again), the smell was so bad, I was

making my nurses gag to the point where they were about to barf.

> I never had any fever with my staph infection.

> I'm not sure about the US but here in Canada up until yesterday a

family doctor could perform plastic surgery of any type. The Ontario

College of Physicians and Surgeons made it so a Family doctor cannot

call themselves a Surgeon and do surgery unless they actually have

the diploma to back it up.

> What I'm trying to say is slowly but surely there are changes

coming that our voices will be heard.

> Here's a thought, maybe the next time you go to the Drs., don't

tell them about the breast implants and I have a feeling you'll get

much better care and respect. When you're better, then give them

hell.

> Just a thought.

> Please hang in there.

> Love Traci

>

> nnnttwilliams <nnnttwilliams@...>

wrote: I went to two drs yesterday,

both gave me very long lectures which

> they explained how this was all in my head and that there is not

one

> speck of evidence to say implants are not safe. I just listened,

> said a few things. One said well what did the drs tell you, and I

> said they like to say it is depression, then he ran with it. He

said

> he has at last figured out my problem, I am severely depressed. I

> asked how clogged lymph nodes had anything to do with depression

and

> he cleared his throat and said well that has nothing to do with

your

> being sick. IT was CRAZY> My mom just sat there through it in

total

> disbelief. Then I had to PAY for this advice. The other dr who

was

> about 25, told me I had CATATONIC depression, pretty serious stuff

to

> say, but she rolled it off like she was so sure. I then asked

about

> my infections, she told me I had none and it was again in my

head. I

> said I want a urine test, to which she called later and said,

oops,

> you do have an infection but I don't know what it is or what to

tell

> you, we don't treat that here. So here I sit with an infection of

> some unknown sort, and gone through a full day of BS. And I

actually

> feel okay. This is the standard work up I usually get so I was

not

> surprised, but it is always stressful. So they said it is fibro,

gave

> me NO information on it at all, the Attending Dr came in for 2

> minutes and never came back. She was completely condescending and

> accused me of trying to collect diability. Oh, and the dr said I

did

> not need my implants removed or any of the other surgeries. I

said

> that is fine, if I would have continued to listen to you and not

my

> own body I might be dead right now. What a strange and horrible

> day. But to all of you out there, this is what you get. Be very

> careful who you go to. My mom actually called this dr ahead of

time

> to go over everything and the nurse said oh yes we treat sick

women

> all the time, so we still can't figure out what the heck

happened.

> He wants all my records so he can disprove what happened to me.

> Sorry so long, really makes you feel crazy. Nan

>

>

>

>

>

>

> No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston

Churchill

>

> ---------------------------------

> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

>

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Nan - and other ladies who are treated so badly.When you get the feeling you're being mistreated, I'd suggest telling them you are not going to accept being treated so badly and, that if they send you, or your insurance company, a bill you'll be taking it up with the state board of health. If they try to argue with you, tell them to get out of the room . . . then leave. You'll feel better too! There's no reason for a doctor to demean a patient . . . Do they think patients are stupid? . . . With the internet, many patients know more about their own condition than the doctors do. Many doctors would do well to do more listening. As long as these jerks can be paid for this kind of treatment, the

longer it will continue. They obviously don't know what they're doing, nor do they care to learn.Hugs,Rogene

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Hi Nan,Unfortunately I'm not doing any better. I see my surgeon tomorrow. We're going to have to try another game plan because I'm not getting any better. One thing that is good is that he is sticking with me and not making me feel like it's all in my head. I think they are grasping at straws trying to tell you that the supplements were making you sick.Please hang in there.Love Tracinnnttwilliams <nnnttwilliams@...> wrote: Thanks Traci, are you doing better? I am sure you have been through it too. I barely

remember the last few weeks with all the running around to drs and being prescribed medicines. GET THIS, they also told me I was probably sick from taking supplements, because supp are not FDA approved, now that is a good one! Nan I went to two drs yesterday, both gave me very long lectures which > they explained how this was all in my head and that there is not one > speck of evidence to say implants are not safe. I just listened, > said a few things. One said well what did the drs tell you, and I > said they like to say it is depression, then he ran with it. He said > he has at last figured out my problem, I am severely depressed. I > asked how clogged lymph nodes had anything to do with depression and > he cleared his throat and said well that has nothing to do with your > being sick. IT was CRAZY> My mom just sat there through it in total > disbelief. Then I had to PAY for this advice. The other dr who was > about 25, told me I had CATATONIC depression, pretty serious stuff to > say, but she rolled it off like she was so sure. I then asked about > my infections, she told me I had none and it was again in my head. I > said I want a urine test, to which she called later and said, oops, > you do have an infection but I don't know what it is or what to tell > you, we don't treat that here. So here I sit with an infection of > some unknown sort, and gone through a full day of BS. And I

actually > feel okay. This is the standard work up I usually get so I was not > surprised, but it is always stressful. So they said it is fibro, gave > me NO information on it at all, the Attending Dr came in for 2 > minutes and never came back. She was completely condescending and > accused me of trying to collect diability. Oh, and the dr said I did > not need my implants removed or any of the other surgeries. I said > that is fine, if I would have continued to listen to you and not my > own body I might be dead right now. What a strange and horrible > day. But to all of you out there, this is what you get. Be very > careful who you go to. My mom actually called this dr ahead of time > to go over everything and the nurse said oh yes we treat sick women > all the time, so we still can't figure out what the heck

happened. > He wants all my records so he can disprove what happened to me. > Sorry so long, really makes you feel crazy. Nan > > > > > > > No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill

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Nan . . . I remember the primary care doc I had when I first got sick . . . He got upset when I started asking him about breast implants . . . especially when I mentioned the kids problems . . . Come to find out, his wife had implants, and had two children while having them . . . At the time, he thought the kids were "perfectly" healthy.I warned him that, if she should ever suspect a rupture, it was time for emergency surgery. . . He gave me a stunned look.I suspect there is a great deal of personal fear and/or guilt attached to the implant debacle for some of the docs . . . Something they aren't ready to deal with.I left the doctor, but my hubby continued with him. . .

One day, my hubby came home with a grocery bag (no kidding, a grocery bag) full of antihistamine samples of a drug I used to take. I think it was his way of reaching out to me - that he wanted to talk to me. I ignored him. Rogene

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Nan, I am so sorry you were treated like that. I've had docs too

insinuate that it's all in my head because most of my blood work is

normal.

It makes mad, then sad, then I start doubting myself, wondering if I

am crazy...yet like you, I question the fact that I had swollen lymph

nodes, became anemic, am excreting high levels of fungus in my

urine. A healthy person doesn't suddenly have vision problems,

memory loss, severe fatigue, dizziness and drop to 88 pounds. What

would be our motivation to suffer like this and put out families

through hell? I wouldn't wish this on any soul!!!

I just don't get it! I downloaded Leighland's e-book on how

she recovered and she has all these blood tests identifying the

various fungal infections. Yet, in ten months all of my docs have

refused to do tests like that! I think I'm on the right path with

Mercola but I wish things would move a little faster.

It's so unfair that we are treated this way. In many ways we are

pilgrims for the next generation. Hopefully by then, docs will open

their eyes to what's going on. Try to have a Happy Thanksgiving and

know that I'm thankful for your contribution to this forum. Love, PH

>

> I went to two drs yesterday, both gave me very long lectures which

> they explained how this was all in my head and that there is not

one

> speck of evidence to say implants are not safe. I just listened,

> said a few things. One said well what did the drs tell you, and I

> said they like to say it is depression, then he ran with it. He

said

> he has at last figured out my problem, I am severely depressed. I

> asked how clogged lymph nodes had anything to do with depression

and

> he cleared his throat and said well that has nothing to do with

your

> being sick. IT was CRAZY> My mom just sat there through it in

total

> disbelief. Then I had to PAY for this advice. The other dr who

was

> about 25, told me I had CATATONIC depression, pretty serious stuff

to

> say, but she rolled it off like she was so sure. I then asked

about

> my infections, she told me I had none and it was again in my head.

I

> said I want a urine test, to which she called later and said, oops,

> you do have an infection but I don't know what it is or what to

tell

> you, we don't treat that here. So here I sit with an infection of

> some unknown sort, and gone through a full day of BS. And I

actually

> feel okay. This is the standard work up I usually get so I was not

> surprised, but it is always stressful. So they said it is fibro,

gave

> me NO information on it at all, the Attending Dr came in for 2

> minutes and never came back. She was completely condescending and

> accused me of trying to collect diability. Oh, and the dr said I

did

> not need my implants removed or any of the other surgeries. I said

> that is fine, if I would have continued to listen to you and not my

> own body I might be dead right now. What a strange and horrible

> day. But to all of you out there, this is what you get. Be very

> careful who you go to. My mom actually called this dr ahead of

time

> to go over everything and the nurse said oh yes we treat sick women

> all the time, so we still can't figure out what the heck happened.

> He wants all my records so he can disprove what happened to me.

> Sorry so long, really makes you feel crazy. Nan

>

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Nan,

Sorry to hear you had such a bad day. I have been there with some doctors, I just don't go back. It has been difficult for me to find a good doctor. I have learned not to mention my implants at all and let them TRY to figure out what is going on with me. The minute I mention implants they become clueless and can't figure me out.

Hugs & prayers, Lynn

well according to my drs you are all making this up

I went to two drs yesterday, both gave me very long lectures which they explained how this was all in my head and that there is not one speck of evidence to say implants are not safe. I just listened, said a few things. One said well what did the drs tell you, and I said they like to say it is depression, then he ran with it. He said he has at last figured out my problem, I am severely depressed. I asked how clogged lymph nodes had anything to do with depression and he cleared his throat and said well that has nothing to do with your being sick. IT was CRAZY> My mom just sat there through it in total disbelief. Then I had to PAY for this advice. The other dr who was about 25, told me I had CATATONIC depression, pretty serious stuff to say, but she rolled it off like she was so sure. I then asked about my infections, she told me I had none and it was again in my head. I said I want a urine test, to

which she called later and said, oops, you do have an infection but I don't know what it is or what to tell you, we don't treat that here. So here I sit with an infection of some unknown sort, and gone through a full day of BS. And I actually feel okay. This is the standard work up I usually get so I was not surprised, but it is always stressful. So they said it is fibro, gave me NO information on it at all, the Attending Dr came in for 2 minutes and never came back. She was completely condescending and accused me of trying to collect diability. Oh, and the dr said I did not need my implants removed or any of the other surgeries. I said that is fine, if I would have continued to listen to you and not my own body I might be dead right now. What a strange and horrible day. But to all of you out there, this is what you get. Be very careful who you go to. My mom actually called this dr ahead of time to

go over everything and the nurse said oh yes we treat sick women all the time, so we still can't figure out what the heck happened. He wants all my records so he can disprove what happened to me. Sorry so long, really makes you feel crazy. Nan