Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 I am asking a question for a woman I met and this seemed a good group to ask. She said she hasn't been able to tolerate any probiotic source at all and wanted to know what she could do to get probiotics in her system. She can't tolerate any yogurts (I think this would be commercial kinds as well as commercial organic) either dairy or soy based. Nor can she tolerate any supplements. She has tried individual strains as well as mixed. I supposed maybe the homemade might go better???? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 . Did she give you any indication on how small of a dose she has tried to take before? Has she ever tried taking activated charcoal an hour or two after the probiotics? These situations have always intrigued me. I have wondered if the die-off effect is so bothersome to some people that they quit taking the probiotics. I've wondered if taking the charcoal would soak up the toxins from the dying yeast and make it easier for this type of person to tolerate the probiotics. The probiotics in yogurt are really concentrated. We suggest people start with 1/4 of a tsp. My guess is that when she has tried yogurt that she has eaten a lot more than 1/4 of a tsp. The other thing that has been suggested is to put a speck of Custom Probiotics acidophilus in a small amount of water and then just take 1 tsp of the water and build up from there. The whole " die off " reaction has always intrigued me because my kids have never shown any discomfort or die off indications even when taking powerful drugs like Diflucan and Vancomycin. But the improvements seen while on Diflucan made it very obvious that it was doing something powerful. Jody mom to -5 and -7 SCD 15 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Hi , If commercial dairy yogurt then it may be the lactose. Not the same problem with soy yogurt but some sensitive people don't tolerate soy anything. Has she considered fermenting her own yogurt for 24 hours, dripping it (some are sensitive to the whey protein) and then starting with tiny amounts. She may also have success with other fermented foods like homemade saurkraut or Kimchi (not sure of the spelling). Sheila UC, 20 years -- in remission after 38 mos SCD mom of SCD 23 mos > I am asking a question for a woman I met and this seemed a good group > to ask. She said she hasn't been able to tolerate any probiotic > source at all and wanted to know what she could do to get probiotics > in her system. She can't tolerate any yogurts (I think this would be > commercial kinds as well as commercial organic) either dairy or soy > based. Nor can she tolerate any supplements. She has tried individual > strains as well as mixed. > > I supposed maybe the homemade might go better???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 >She can't tolerate any yogurts Has she tried the almond milk yogurt? http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes.html Naomi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 > She may also have success with other fermented foods > like homemade saurkraut or Kimchi (not sure of the spelling). Hi Sheila, I've been making various fermented foods for a while now, sauerkraut and Kimchi, along with others. I know that Elaine is quite concerned about introducing so much fiber early on in the diet. And both Sauerkraut and Kimchi are very high in fiber. Probably the best bet, is to introduce a small amount of fermented juice. There are a few recipes for lactofermented juices on the internet if you search around for them, here's one I found today: http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2003/09/18/cultured_cabbage_juic e_make_the_best_lactobacteria.htm You can follow this recipe or even add some sort of starter (like yogurt starter). If the juice is tolerated well, then of course sauerkraut and other fibrous foods can be introduced later on when symptoms are well reduced. Seth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Sorry, the URL in that post was way too long. So this one should work if you have trouble: http://tinyurl.com/2sumj Seth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Thanks for the quick link. I will print it off and mail it to her because I don't have an email link for her. I hope it helps. She is in her 20s with little kids. I really wanted to be able to blurt out, " Oh...just drink a bottle of Blubbleberry Juice and... Poof, you will be all better!!! " Maybe one of these days, eh?! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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