Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 My period had started Sunday morning ( I had stressed myself so bad over the needle that it came a week early) and the labs were drawn on Monday.. so that may be part of it. I already do quite a bit of oatmeal. I've been discovering new ways of sneaking it in my everyday cooking. I go through a three pound container of oatmeal every month, it's a standard thing to pick up when I get my groceries. I've been gradually losing weight over the last year and a half... A stall with it during the summer when the lymphedema started up in my legs and I thought I had blood clots and stopped exercising... Now I'm back at it.... and as soon as the weather settles down I'll start walking more again. We had an air quality alert yesterday so I stayed inside. I have a thought.. might be total nuts... but I want to through it up at you guys. We know that eating small regular meals keeps the body's metabolic rate from dropping and going into starvation mode. If you are a person that does do the small portion frequent eating (mini meals) and have done so for over a year.... what happens when you suddenly go on a fast? Your body has been in 'high burn' for a year..... what does it do when there is suddenly no food for 13 hours? I'm curious about that.... how long will it convert fat to fuel to maintain it's metabolism before it starts to shut stuff done to conserve energy and fat stores and prevent starvation? My head comes up with weird stuff sometimes. And no, don't worry, I'm not in denial and dreaming up excuses for the high glucose or anything.... Just trying to understand stuff... I get that way... Topper () On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 01:58:54 -0500 isabellabird@... writes: Topper,About your high blood glucose--I have been a type 2 diabetic for 4years, When I lose some weight my blood glucose levels always go down.Last year my older brother who is about 30 lbs. overweight was diagnosedas "pre- diabetic". HIs doctor told him to watch his diet and loseweight which he did and his sugars returned to normal levels.A good thing for you would be to lower your carb intake, use only wholegrains,whole wheat, rye, for breads, brown rice,lots of high fiber veggies. I have noticed also that when I ammenstruating my sugars are higher, same with being sick.About the cholesterol--I was eating a bowl of oatmeal or cheerios everyday for 3 or 4 months straight--usually with fruit and or nuts andlowfat milk. When my cholesterol was checked last time it had gone from215 to 185 and the only change was the oatmeal in my diet!! It reallyworked! (I was given a prescription for cholestyramine which I did notfill because I didn't want to take anymore meds than I was already,which is quite a few!)Some simple, small changes in diet can really help you to avoid havingto take prescription medicine.Take care,Doreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 A thought about oatmeal.......That send Leon's bg(blood sugar levels)up fast.He can have ham and eggs and biscuits and not have probs with his diabetes, but when he eats oatmeal, he has probs.... Which is a shame as he loves oatmeal...So apparently the glycemic index is the reason.They have glasses a lot on managing diabetes, but none for thyroid disease...... , very proud group co-owner Re: Re: Topper's Labs My period had started Sunday morning ( I had stressed myself so bad over the needle that it came a week early) and the labs were drawn on Monday.. so that may be part of it. I already do quite a bit of oatmeal. I've been discovering new ways of sneaking it in my everyday cooking. I go through a three pound container of oatmeal every month, it's a standard thing to pick up when I get my groceries. I've been gradually losing weight over the last year and a half... A stall with it during the summer when the lymphedema started up in my legs and I thought I had blood clots and stopped exercising... Now I'm back at it.... and as soon as the weather settles down I'll start walking more again. We had an air quality alert yesterday so I stayed inside. I have a thought.. might be total nuts... but I want to through it up at you guys. We know that eating small regular meals keeps the body's metabolic rate from dropping and going into starvation mode. If you are a person that does do the small portion frequent eating (mini meals) and have done so for over a year.... what happens when you suddenly go on a fast? Your body has been in 'high burn' for a year..... what does it do when there is suddenly no food for 13 hours? I'm curious about that.... how long will it convert fat to fuel to maintain it's metabolism before it starts to shut stuff done to conserve energy and fat stores and prevent starvation? My head comes up with weird stuff sometimes. And no, don't worry, I'm not in denial and dreaming up excuses for the high glucose or anything.... Just trying to understand stuff... I get that way... Topper () On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 01:58:54 -0500 isabellabird@... writes: Topper,About your high blood glucose--I have been a type 2 diabetic for 4years, When I lose some weight my blood glucose levels always go down.Last year my older brother who is about 30 lbs. overweight was diagnosedas "pre- diabetic". HIs doctor told him to watch his diet and loseweight which he did and his sugars returned to normal levels.A good thing for you would be to lower your carb intake, use only wholegrains,whole wheat, rye, for breads, brown rice,lots of high fiber veggies. I have noticed also that when I ammenstruating my sugars are higher, same with being sick.About the cholesterol--I was eating a bowl of oatmeal or cheerios everyday for 3 or 4 months straight--usually with fruit and or nuts andlowfat milk. When my cholesterol was checked last time it had gone from215 to 185 and the only change was the oatmeal in my diet!! It reallyworked! (I was given a prescription for cholestyramine which I did notfill because I didn't want to take anymore meds than I was already,which is quite a few!)Some simple, small changes in diet can really help you to avoid havingto take prescription medicine.Take care,Doreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 Topper That's what the fast is about, seeing if it's going to stay higher even with no introduction of food. If it's not dropping pretty low, I'm still saying insulin resistance, but maybe not diabetes yet. I suspect this in myself, though I had a fair reading last testing of I think 74, on a fasting? Two times before that I had a 110, which is now considered borderline IF it's repeated a couple of times. That's why we really need to have our testing more often, either as thyroid patients or as insulin resistant or diabetics. Re: Re: Topper's Labs My period had started Sunday morning ( I had stressed myself so bad over the needle that it came a week early) and the labs were drawn on Monday.. so that may be part of it. I already do quite a bit of oatmeal. I've been discovering new ways of sneaking it in my everyday cooking. I go through a three pound container of oatmeal every month, it's a standard thing to pick up when I get my groceries. I've been gradually losing weight over the last year and a half... A stall with it during the summer when the lymphedema started up in my legs and I thought I had blood clots and stopped exercising... Now I'm back at it.... and as soon as the weather settles down I'll start walking more again. We had an air quality alert yesterday so I stayed inside. I have a thought.. might be total nuts... but I want to through it up at you guys. We know that eating small regular meals keeps the body's metabolic rate from dropping and going into starvation mode. If you are a person that does do the small portion frequent eating (mini meals) and have done so for over a year.... what happens when you suddenly go on a fast? Your body has been in 'high burn' for a year..... what does it do when there is suddenly no food for 13 hours? I'm curious about that.... how long will it convert fat to fuel to maintain it's metabolism before it starts to shut stuff done to conserve energy and fat stores and prevent starvation? My head comes up with weird stuff sometimes. And no, don't worry, I'm not in denial and dreaming up excuses for the high glucose or anything.... Just trying to understand stuff... I get that way... Topper () Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 Absolutely right, . The foods that are ordinarily excellent for "normal" people (when it comes to diabetes anyway) have to even be watched in high amts in diabetics. Oatmeal is a wonderful food, but is none the less a high carb food. It must be as much hell to be a diabetic as to be hypo or hyper frankly. Re: Re: Topper's Labs A thought about oatmeal.......That send Leon's bg(blood sugar levels)up fast.He can have ham and eggs and biscuits and not have probs with his diabetes, but when he eats oatmeal, he has probs.... Which is a shame as he loves oatmeal...So apparently the glycemic index is the reason.They have glasses a lot on managing diabetes, but none for thyroid disease...... , very proud group co-owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 A thought about oatmeal.......That send Leon's bg(blood sugar levels)up fast. I don't remember for sure, but I had thought oatmeal was a fairly low glycemic index food. Does he eat the thick, old fashioned, cooked from scratch oats? Or the baby flake or packets of instant oatmeal? And of course, very few people eat oatmeal without some sort of sweetener, so I would wonder how much sweetener is being used and that would likely be the culprit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 Hi ! He eats the old fashined rolled oats without sweetner.He loves it that way!Me, I need brown sugar on mine.... A thought, grits does not sem to have as much effect on him .... I remember from childhood,having Roman Meal Cereal!I loved that....cooked and served with half and half and a bit of sugar.I have not been able to find it for years, although I have found their bread... Re: Re: Topper's Labs A thought about oatmeal.......That send Leon's bg(blood sugar levels)up fast. I don't remember for sure, but I had thought oatmeal was a fairly low glycemic index food. Does he eat the thick, old fashioned, cooked from scratch oats? Or the baby flake or packets of instant oatmeal? And of course, very few people eat oatmeal without some sort of sweetener, so I would wonder how much sweetener is being used and that would likely be the culprit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 He eats the old fashined rolled oats without sweetner. Well then that's just a bummer! I can't eat mine without something sweet, but I've cut WAY back on how much I use, and use fruit as the main sweetener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 Vanilla extract is so good on oatmeal with cinnamon... Blessed Be you, Feisty(ThyroFeisty) wrote: Hi ! He eats the old fashined rolled oats without sweetner.He loves it that way!Me, I need brown sugar on mine.... A thought, grits does not sem to have as much effect on him .... I remember from childhood,having Roman Meal Cereal!I loved that....cooked and served with half and half and a bit of sugar.I have not been able to find it for years, although I have found their bread... - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 Hi , The glycemic index of Oatmeal (made with water), old fashined, cooked, 1 cup, 8ozs. is 49, 2 grms fat, 26grms CHO. White bread per 1oz slice is 70 (av) 1 of fat 12 of CHO. Hope this is of some help. Dawn "Feisty(ThyroFeisty)" wrote: Hi ! He eats the old fashined rolled oats without sweetner.He loves it that way!Me, I need brown sugar on mine.... A thought, grits does not sem to have as much effect on him .... I remember from childhood,having Roman Meal Cereal!I loved that....cooked and served with half and half and a bit of sugar.I have not been able to find it for years, although I have found their bread... Re: Re: Topper's Labs A thought about oatmeal.......That send Leon's bg(blood sugar levels)up fast. I don't remember for sure, but I had thought oatmeal was a fairly low glycemic index food. Does he eat the thick, old fashioned, cooked from scratch oats? Or the baby flake or packets of instant oatmeal? And of course, very few people eat oatmeal without some sort of sweetener, so I would wonder how much sweetener is being used and that would likely be the culprit. Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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