Guest guest Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 When it exceeds the shelf life date, make a roux...... TD Re: TraumaDEX >THAT part - about the shelf life - I don't recall and I am at home so I can't >go look. But I would think potato starch would last a while... > >Jane Hill > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 In my humble 11 years of experience, i have seen my fair share of 'serious bleeds' especially since i work in the hood (south end), better know to us(BEMS) as pergatory(sp?), hell is the north end. Anyway seriously i have had 2 chances to have first person hands on experience and in my opinion, both times this stuff stopped a BIG arterial bleed dead in its tracks (no pun intended) lady on blood thinners (of course) fell on her coffee mug with her knee and laid open the pop. art. anywho, we called for fd to drive since one of us was obviously going to have to hold direct pressure (wound was 2-3 inches in length) then after about 5 or so minutes, with absolutely no relief, she had bleed through every trauma dressing we had and were finishing up on abd pads. My partner said, hey don't we still have trauma dex? i said yeah but do you really think it will work. He said whats the worst think that will happen we are where we started. Well we applied it and put pressure like it states to do. And WOW! when the fd arrived we went to move here i had to lift my hand for a minute from her position i was getting pt to hold pressure and she lifted bandages to look and it had completely stopped. I didn't have to keep an engine out of service so we could have a driver so one of us could actually do pt. care. The hospital was tickled pick that they didn't have to have one of the few nurses they have stand around and hold pressure. And is 10 dollars a tube really that bad of a price? In relative comparison to all the other stuff we have and don't use regularly, adenocard, cordarone, 1g solu medrol, mag, calcium, and various other costly meds. ( i don't know that all of these are costly but some are for sure) i pull off mucho dollars worth of meds every mo. off my truck. I know it is not a neccesity but neither is automatic bp's, hand free defib. yada yada. it is a toy like other things, But a beneficial one. IMHO. Oh and by the way, just how does potato starch get hot? One of the best medics i know was medic in military and they used it religiously. He was one of the big advocates we had for the stuff. Thanks Tina EMT-P BEMS > I had a salesman come by today and try to sell me some TraumaDEX, > which is, by many accounts, a revolutionary new hemostatic compound > to control bleeding from lacerations, punctures, abrasions, etc. > > I was just wondering if anybody on the list has had any experience > with it. > > phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 tina wrote: > > Tina EMT-P > BEMS Where is " B? " Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2004 Report Share Posted January 1, 2004 Beaumont, Rob. Re: Re: TraumaDEX > tina wrote: > > > > Tina EMT-P > > BEMS > > Where is " B? " > > Rob > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2004 Report Share Posted January 1, 2004 Beaumont > > > > Tina EMT-P > > BEMS > > Where is " B? " > > Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2004 Report Share Posted January 1, 2004 Jane, is the expiration date long enough that you do not need to keep switching it out and losing money? je.hill@... wrote: Our Nurse Practitioner who used the product with my crews assistance said that the bleeding at the site on this patient's arm was so fast and excessive, that they could not get it to slow down enough with direct pressure and pressure point to even see to suture the vessel. They put in the trauma dex and continued to hold pressure point and direct pressure, and noted that the bleeding slowed enough where she could then view the site enough to suture the vessel and stop the bleeding. This was in a very Rural Clinic with clinic staff and EMS staff both working on the patient. We had a sample of traumadex that the crew thought to go and grab, and it worked. So we just keep a tube on each truck and a couple in stock. We have not used it since, and the incidence that we would use it in our low trauma percentage county is rare, so the cost is really minimal to keep some of it around just in case. I think that the usual methods work in most cases to control bleeding, and I don't anticipate us using it except on the rare situation. I know of one other call we had where we could have used it on a head lac that direct pressure would not control. We have pics of the back of the ambulance awash with blood despite direct pressure and lots of dressings and such. But I see a need for us to keep a little around in case enough where we have it stashed on each unit. Jane Hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2004 Report Share Posted January 1, 2004 We bought ours in early 2003, if I remember correctly. I just checked the expiration dates on the packages and it is 08/2005. So that appears to be a pretty long shelf life to me for the money. Jane Hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 Potato starch? Isn't spray starch like to iron clothes with made with potato starch??? B. , LP Baylor Regional Medical Center at Grapevine EMS Educator Baylor EMS Medical Control 400 N. Main St. #104 Grapevine, Tx 76051-3300 Office Fax Cell Cell e-mail 8179925662@... Hospital Pager Personal Pager pager e-mail 8174342094@... Re: TraumaDEX je.hill@... writes: > Potato starch. It absorbs, swells, and then is absorbed by the body. > > Jane Hill Field expedient- slap on the instant mashed potatoes! Happy New Year, everyone! EMStock 2004 is coming! CE, Fellowship, and Fun! May 21-23, 2004 - Midlothian Larry RN LP EMSI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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