Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Hi Patty, I did!! I still need to read your recent adrenal post though. Good news, they did come back normal. I realize the blood test isn't as reliable as the spit but it still gives me piece of mind for some reason. Cortisol, Serum: 13.85 Normal (3.09-22.40) AM Cortisol, Serum: 6.42 Normal (3.09-22.40) PM DHEA 2.5 Normal <10 I am thinking that my cortisol did fall more than 1/2 from morning until afternoon though. Isn't there some Licorice supplement that I could take? Also, my doctor put me back on synthoid today. My energy levels are through the roof on armour thyroid - so much that I didn't sleep but an hour or so last night. I love to have my energy back but not to the point I can't sleep. Plus, my thyroiditis has been so horrible again. It actually calmed down with the synthroid but for some reason has gotten worse with the armour. I thought perhaps I was on too little of a dose, so I called my doctor to ask if I could up it a grain and he said that I need to go back on synthyroid. I am sort of bummed. I really think if I could get my thyroid issues under control that I would feel much better. Anyhow, he won't do another thyroid panel until the 2nd week of August, so I have to wait. Darn it! Perhaps I can find something besides armour to supplement the Free T3? Talk to you soon. Hugs, Lynn Re: Hyperpigmentation, Nan, Traci, Lynn Lynn, Your hyperpigmentation, along with Nan's and now Traci's, has been a red flag to me that you guys have adrenal issues going on. The difficult thing about adrenal issues are that they are so undertreated, and not recognized. You will have to be very pro-active in getting your doctor to pay attention to the signs of adrenal insufficiency that you have, and take action to offer the appropriate remedies. Most doctors will not prescribe hydrocortisone. They will first offer prednisone, when it is clear that you have an autoimmune disease going on that is leading to chronic damaging inflammation. But prednisone is a dangerous drug. Do not take it. It is a synthetic form of cortisol and it is given in doses that are way too high for the body. It is like using the big guns! Hydrocortisone is the bio-identical hormone that your body makes...this is preferred for adrenal insufficiency, and you want it in very small doses that mimic what your own body will produce. Low cortisol production leads to inflammation and that is why these inflammatory diseases are so often treated with prednisone. But you don't want to wait until you are so sick that you need prednisone. You want to treat the low cortisol with small doses of hydrocortisone to stave off a worse condition. Anyway, I am not a doctor and I am not telling you what to do...I just want you to be aware that most doctors will blow off a low adrenal state because it is not a full blown, blaring, bell ringing adrenal failure stage, that requires their immediate attention. But that does not mean your glands don't need help. You can definitely support them with the right supplements too. Just wanted you to be up on what could happen. Read up on adrenal fatigue with Dr. Shames book, and I am also very suprised to read that Suzanne Somers covers this condition in her books on natural hormone therapy. I've got a new respect for her, which surprised even me! Patty Lynn <spinkscl (DOT) com> wrote: I have been studying up on hyperpigmentation because mine is driving me crazy!! I can't stand not being able to go outside without getting brown, dirty blotches on my face... I found something interesting on Wikipedia (which I know isn't always reliable). Hyperpigmentation may be caused by sun damage, inflammation, or other skin injuries, including those related to acne vulgaris.[1] People with darker Asian, east Indian, middle Eastern, Hispanic, or African skin tones are also more prone to hyperpigmentation especially if they have excess sun exposure. Hyperpigmentation is also associated with a number of diseases or conditions, including: 's disease and other sources of adrenal insufficiency, in which hormones that stimulate melanin synthesis (e.g. MSH) are frequently elevated. I think I am going to ask my doctor to test my MSH level. I should be getting my DHEA and AM/PM Cortisol levels back soon. Oh, if this is the answer and I can reverse this dang hyperpigmentation - I will be so happy!! Hugs, Lynn Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 I agree, does sound like me to a tee. I can't believe I had such a horrible reaction to armour. I have never taken crack but I am thinking that I felt like I was on crack. I had no appetite at all, could't sleep, fidgity...like I was on a major, non-stop caffine rush. It was nice to have energy but I was like the energizer bunny! Where can I by the hyrdocortisone cream? Is this the type of cream for bug bites and such? I thought there was a licorice supplement as well? I would love to treat my adrenals as naturally as possible. I don't want predisone. Then perhaps, I can get back on armour? My TSH in December was 2.0 and in March 3.5 my recent test in June was: Free T4, Direct 1.0 (range - 0.7-1.9) TSH 2.04 (range 0.47-4.68) Free T3 3.1 (2.8-5.3) Thanks Patty, Lynn Re: Hyperpigmentation, Nan, Traci, Lynn Lynn, Your hyperpigmentation, along with Nan's and now Traci's, has been a red flag to me that you guys have adrenal issues going on. The difficult thing about adrenal issues are that they are so undertreated, and not recognized. You will have to be very pro-active in getting your doctor to pay attention to the signs of adrenal insufficiency that you have, and take action to offer the appropriate remedies. Most doctors will not prescribe hydrocortisone. They will first offer prednisone, when it is clear that you have an autoimmune disease going on that is leading to chronic damaging inflammation. But prednisone is a dangerous drug. Do not take it. It is a synthetic form of cortisol and it is given in doses that are way too high for the body. It is like using the big guns! Hydrocortisone is the bio-identical hormone that your body makes...this is preferred for adrenal insufficiency, and you want it in very small doses that mimic what your own body will produce. Low cortisol production leads to inflammation and that is why these inflammatory diseases are so often treated with prednisone. But you don't want to wait until you are so sick that you need prednisone. You want to treat the low cortisol with small doses of hydrocortisone to stave off a worse condition. Anyway, I am not a doctor and I am not telling you what to do...I just want you to be aware that most doctors will blow off a low adrenal state because it is not a full blown, blaring, bell ringing adrenal failure stage, that requires their immediate attention. But that does not mean your glands don't need help. You can definitely support them with the right supplements too. Just wanted you to be up on what could happen. Read up on adrenal fatigue with Dr. Shames book, and I am also very suprised to read that Suzanne Somers covers this condition in her books on natural hormone therapy. I've got a new respect for her, which surprised even me! Patty Lynn <spinkscl (DOT) com> wrote: I have been studying up on hyperpigmentation because mine is driving me crazy!! I can't stand not being able to go outside without getting brown, dirty blotches on my face... I found something interesting on Wikipedia (which I know isn't always reliable). Hyperpigmentation may be caused by sun damage, inflammation, or other skin injuries, including those related to acne vulgaris.[1] People with darker Asian, east Indian, middle Eastern, Hispanic, or African skin tones are also more prone to hyperpigmentation especially if they have excess sun exposure. Hyperpigmentation is also associated with a number of diseases or conditions, including: 's disease and other sources of adrenal insufficiency, in which hormones that stimulate melanin synthesis (e.g. MSH) are frequently elevated. I think I am going to ask my doctor to test my MSH level. I should be getting my DHEA and AM/PM Cortisol levels back soon. Oh, if this is the answer and I can reverse this dang hyperpigmentation - I will be so happy!! Hugs, Lynn Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started. Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Didn't see, but sounds fascinating. Maybe the profession is coming round at last. Hans > > Did anyone see in the press recently about a trial being carried out at one of the London teaching hospitals looking at adreanl fatigue, using SALIVARY CORTISOL levels?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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