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hi challis,yeah, i guess my math about the difference in ages wasn't that great, i just meant between the oldest and the youngest. my children are unusual only because (sorry, can't get the color right!) i didn't have any in between. after lily was born i had a major attack, with fatigue being the worst and not being able to care a bit about the house, dinner, taking lily out or fussing over her, etc. at first i thought it was post-partum depression, but as the years went by, i realized i was really sick. in november of 2003 my eyes went really blurry, a symptom i was having more and more. in december i couldn't pee right, in january i started hurting with my first sign of spasticity, and then the tinglies on my

entire right side and the left side going completely numb in the spring of 04. so, by using my merk medical handbook i knew i probably had ms before the doctors did! i needed to see two neuros before i finally started being treated. I "failed" the spinal, evoked potentials, the brain mri (at first) and it was only when we did a spinal mri that there was objective "proof" of the disease. thank god my second neuro just did his job and actually acted like a doctor by using his training and experience to go by my SYMPTOMS. i believe that is the old-fashioned and time-honored method for diagnosing illnesses. doctors are too dependent on tests nowadays, and if you get a really lousy doctor, he/she will blame your symptoms on anxiety, breastfeeding (what the hell?), being bipolar (like me), being a crazy, hysterical female, witches, whatever. it would be funny if they (doctors, not witches, i know some and they are the

nicest people) didn't just about destroy people's lives. i think being in limbo and being told i had an anxiety disorder by my first neuro made me feel the most helpless i have ever felt. i was terrified that no one would take care of me, i was hurting, and i knew i wasn't that crazy. my sense of self was actually affected, and to this day i hate that woman for her snotty, cavalier attitude. she has a horrible reputation and her waiting room is always crammed like the worst welfare clinic in the country. i never did follow up on the complaint i was going to make to the ama and whoever else would listen. this is tulsa, and the doctors stick together, so i am afraid to make too much of a stink.anyway, my ordeal till i was dxed only lasted a couple of months. i literally cannot imagine being in limbo for years like so many of us are. the medical system has a lot to answer for here, it's

outrageous.sorry for the long post, i guess it just needed to come out!hugs and hugs,annetteSmyelin groovy <smyelingroovy@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Annette,

I noticed your and Lily (can't remember if I have the spelling right for her name) had a few years between them. :o)

It's been a bit different raising the girls than it was the boys. It wasn't that many years between, but I can feel the difference in age. Though maybe it isn't all age? Maybe I should consider this Mystery Syndrome I'm not yet dx'd with, eh?

BTW, I was diagnosed by my first Neuro. It's Breastfeeding Syndrome. Several of us here have it. So, if you ever had breasts, male or female, you are at risk.

LOL No, of course he didn't say "Breastfeeding Syndome", but upon realizing I was nursing my youngest at the time he pegged all my symptoms on that. Never mind the symptoms began between my second and third child (who were nine years apart), or that I've not been breastfeeding for a while now and my lips ar still numb... and never mind it's the biggest mess of horsepooey.. . LOLOL

Hugs,

Challis

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hi challis,yeah, i guess my math about the difference in ages wasn't that great, i just meant between the oldest and the youngest. my children are unusual only because (sorry, can't get the color right!) i didn't have any in between. after lily was born i had a major attack, with fatigue being the worst and not being able to care a bit about the house, dinner, taking lily out or fussing over her, etc. at first i thought it was post-partum depression, but as the years went by, i realized i was really sick. in november of 2003 my eyes went really blurry, a symptom i was having more and more. in december i couldn't pee right, in january i started hurting with my first sign of spasticity, and then the tinglies on my

entire right side and the left side going completely numb in the spring of 04. so, by using my merk medical handbook i knew i probably had ms before the doctors did! i needed to see two neuros before i finally started being treated. I "failed" the spinal, evoked potentials, the brain mri (at first) and it was only when we did a spinal mri that there was objective "proof" of the disease. thank god my second neuro just did his job and actually acted like a doctor by using his training and experience to go by my SYMPTOMS. i believe that is the old-fashioned and time-honored method for diagnosing illnesses. doctors are too dependent on tests nowadays, and if you get a really lousy doctor, he/she will blame your symptoms on anxiety, breastfeeding (what the hell?), being bipolar (like me), being a crazy, hysterical female, witches, whatever. it would be funny if they (doctors, not witches, i know some and they are the

nicest people) didn't just about destroy people's lives. i think being in limbo and being told i had an anxiety disorder by my first neuro made me feel the most helpless i have ever felt. i was terrified that no one would take care of me, i was hurting, and i knew i wasn't that crazy. my sense of self was actually affected, and to this day i hate that woman for her snotty, cavalier attitude. she has a horrible reputation and her waiting room is always crammed like the worst welfare clinic in the country. i never did follow up on the complaint i was going to make to the ama and whoever else would listen. this is tulsa, and the doctors stick together, so i am afraid to make too much of a stink.anyway, my ordeal till i was dxed only lasted a couple of months. i literally cannot imagine being in limbo for years like so many of us are. the medical system has a lot to answer for here, it's

outrageous.sorry for the long post, i guess it just needed to come out!hugs and hugs,annetteSmyelin groovy <smyelingroovy@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Annette,

I noticed your and Lily (can't remember if I have the spelling right for her name) had a few years between them. :o)

It's been a bit different raising the girls than it was the boys. It wasn't that many years between, but I can feel the difference in age. Though maybe it isn't all age? Maybe I should consider this Mystery Syndrome I'm not yet dx'd with, eh?

BTW, I was diagnosed by my first Neuro. It's Breastfeeding Syndrome. Several of us here have it. So, if you ever had breasts, male or female, you are at risk.

LOL No, of course he didn't say "Breastfeeding Syndome", but upon realizing I was nursing my youngest at the time he pegged all my symptoms on that. Never mind the symptoms began between my second and third child (who were nine years apart), or that I've not been breastfeeding for a while now and my lips ar still numb... and never mind it's the biggest mess of horsepooey.. . LOLOL

Hugs,

Challis

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hi challis,yeah, i guess my math about the difference in ages wasn't that great, i just meant between the oldest and the youngest. my children are unusual only because (sorry, can't get the color right!) i didn't have any in between. after lily was born i had a major attack, with fatigue being the worst and not being able to care a bit about the house, dinner, taking lily out or fussing over her, etc. at first i thought it was post-partum depression, but as the years went by, i realized i was really sick. in november of 2003 my eyes went really blurry, a symptom i was having more and more. in december i couldn't pee right, in january i started hurting with my first sign of spasticity, and then the tinglies on my

entire right side and the left side going completely numb in the spring of 04. so, by using my merk medical handbook i knew i probably had ms before the doctors did! i needed to see two neuros before i finally started being treated. I "failed" the spinal, evoked potentials, the brain mri (at first) and it was only when we did a spinal mri that there was objective "proof" of the disease. thank god my second neuro just did his job and actually acted like a doctor by using his training and experience to go by my SYMPTOMS. i believe that is the old-fashioned and time-honored method for diagnosing illnesses. doctors are too dependent on tests nowadays, and if you get a really lousy doctor, he/she will blame your symptoms on anxiety, breastfeeding (what the hell?), being bipolar (like me), being a crazy, hysterical female, witches, whatever. it would be funny if they (doctors, not witches, i know some and they are the

nicest people) didn't just about destroy people's lives. i think being in limbo and being told i had an anxiety disorder by my first neuro made me feel the most helpless i have ever felt. i was terrified that no one would take care of me, i was hurting, and i knew i wasn't that crazy. my sense of self was actually affected, and to this day i hate that woman for her snotty, cavalier attitude. she has a horrible reputation and her waiting room is always crammed like the worst welfare clinic in the country. i never did follow up on the complaint i was going to make to the ama and whoever else would listen. this is tulsa, and the doctors stick together, so i am afraid to make too much of a stink.anyway, my ordeal till i was dxed only lasted a couple of months. i literally cannot imagine being in limbo for years like so many of us are. the medical system has a lot to answer for here, it's

outrageous.sorry for the long post, i guess it just needed to come out!hugs and hugs,annetteSmyelin groovy <smyelingroovy@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Annette,

I noticed your and Lily (can't remember if I have the spelling right for her name) had a few years between them. :o)

It's been a bit different raising the girls than it was the boys. It wasn't that many years between, but I can feel the difference in age. Though maybe it isn't all age? Maybe I should consider this Mystery Syndrome I'm not yet dx'd with, eh?

BTW, I was diagnosed by my first Neuro. It's Breastfeeding Syndrome. Several of us here have it. So, if you ever had breasts, male or female, you are at risk.

LOL No, of course he didn't say "Breastfeeding Syndome", but upon realizing I was nursing my youngest at the time he pegged all my symptoms on that. Never mind the symptoms began between my second and third child (who were nine years apart), or that I've not been breastfeeding for a while now and my lips ar still numb... and never mind it's the biggest mess of horsepooey.. . LOLOL

Hugs,

Challis

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hi challis,we should do a survey of how many of us can still jump (for joy or anything else!). i am in the non-jumping category, unless you count the way my feet fly around in the air when i've tripped over my own feet and plummet gracelessly to the ground!that's something to catch and play over and over again on you tube. annetteSmyelin groovy wrote: I bet that's how Connie's foot got broken!! Heyyy, I bet that's how the first Connie broke herself last year. Wasn't it last year? Wasn't it Connie? I'm glad my name isn't Connie. They break. Now I'm scared to move because I typed that. LOLOLChallis Re: Hi allhi challis,yeah, i guess my math about the

difference in ages wasn't that great, i just meant between the oldest and the youngest. my children are unusual only because (sorry, can't get the color right!) i didn't have any in between. after lily was born i had a major attack, with fatigue being the worst and not being able to care a bit about the house, dinner, taking lily out or fussing over her, etc. at first i thought it was post-partum depression, but as the years went by, i realized i was really sick. in november of 2003 my eyes went really blurry, a symptom i was having more and more. in december i couldn't pee right, in january i started hurting with my first sign of spasticity, and then the tinglies on my entire right side and the left side going completely numb in the spring of 04. so, by using my merk medical handbook i knew i probably had ms before the doctors did! i needed to see two neuros before i finally started being treated. I "failed" the spinal, evoked potentials, the brain mri (at

first) and it was only when we did a spinal mri that there was objective "proof" of the disease. thank god my second neuro just did his job and actually acted like a doctor by using his training and experience to go by my SYMPTOMS. i believe that is the old-fashioned and time-honored method for diagnosing illnesses. doctors are too dependent on tests nowadays, and if you get a really lousy doctor, he/she will blame your symptoms on anxiety, breastfeeding (what the hell?), being bipolar (like me), being a crazy, hysterical female, witches, whatever. it would be funny if they (doctors, not witches, i know some and they are the nicest people) didn't just about destroy people's lives. i think being in limbo and being told i had an anxiety disorder by my first neuro made me feel the most helpless i have ever felt. i was terrified that no one would take care of me, i was hurting, and i knew i wasn't that crazy. my sense of self was actually affected, and to this day i

hate that woman for her snotty, cavalier attitude. she has a horrible reputation and her waiting room is always crammed like the worst welfare clinic in the country. i never did follow up on the complaint i was going to make to the ama and whoever else would listen. this is tulsa, and the doctors stick together, so i am afraid to make too much of a stink.anyway, my ordeal till i was dxed only lasted a couple of months. i literally cannot imagine being in limbo for years like so many of us are. the medical system has a lot to answer for here, it's outrageous.sorry for the long post, i guess it just needed to come out!hugs and hugs,annetteSmyelin groovy wrote: Hi Annette, I noticed your and Lily (can't remember if I have the spelling right for her name) had a few years between them. :o) It's been a bit different raising the girls than it was the boys. It wasn't that many years between,

but I can feel the difference in age. Though maybe it isn't all age? Maybe I should consider this Mystery Syndrome I'm not yet dx'd with, eh? BTW, I was diagnosed by my first Neuro. It's Breastfeeding Syndrome. Several of us here have it. So, if you ever had breasts, male or female, you are at risk. LOL No, of course he didn't say "Breastfeeding Syndome", but upon realizing I was nursing my youngest at the time he pegged all my symptoms on that. Never mind the symptoms began between my second and third child (who were nine years apart), or that I've not been breastfeeding for a while now and my lips ar still numb... and never mind it's the biggest mess of horsepooey.. . LOLOL Hugs,Challis -Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your

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hi challis,can i just mention how muuuch i haaate the "i get tired, too" remarks? can i curse here?annetteSmyelin groovy wrote: Add in the fact that my Mother is the slowest eater God ever invented, and man that can cut into a lunch hour. Better plan a

Saturday around it! <weg> ROFL At least she savors the moments. :o) HUGS to Mom, Challis ~PS... my Mother's slow eating compared to other "slow eaters" is like MS fatigue compared to "yeah, I get tired, too". LOL Re: Hi all hi challis,yeah, i guess my math about the difference in ages wasn't that great, i just meant between the oldest and the youngest. my children are unusual only because (sorry, can't get the color right!) i didn't have any in between. after lily was born i had a major attack, with fatigue being the worst and not being able to care a bit about the house, dinner, taking lily out or fussing over her,

etc. at first i thought it was post-partum depression, but as the years went by, i realized i was really sick. in november of 2003 my eyes went really blurry, a symptom i was having more and more. in december i couldn't pee right, in january i started hurting with my first sign of spasticity, and then the tinglies on my entire right side and the left side going completely numb in the spring of 04. so, by using my merk medical handbook i knew i probably had ms before the doctors did! i needed to see two neuros before i finally started being treated. I "failed" the spinal, evoked potentials, the brain mri (at first) and it was only when we did a spinal mri that there was objective "proof" of the disease. thank god my second neuro just did his job and actually acted like a doctor by using his training and experience to go by my SYMPTOMS. i believe that is the old-fashioned and time-honored method for diagnosing illnesses.

doctors are too dependent on tests nowadays, and if you get a really lousy doctor, he/she will blame your symptoms on anxiety, breastfeeding (what the hell?), being bipolar (like me), being a crazy, hysterical female, witches, whatever. it would be funny if they (doctors, not witches, i know some and they are the nicest people) didn't just about destroy people's lives. i think being in limbo and being told i had an anxiety disorder by my first neuro made me feel the most helpless i have ever felt. i was terrified that no one would take care of me, i was hurting, and i knew i wasn't that crazy. my sense of self was actually affected, and to this day i hate that woman for her snotty, cavalier attitude. she has a horrible reputation and her waiting room is always crammed like the worst welfare clinic in the country. i never did follow up on the complaint i was going to make to the ama and whoever else would listen. this is tulsa, and

the doctors stick together, so i am afraid to make too much of a stink.anyway, my ordeal till i was dxed only lasted a couple of months. i literally cannot imagine being in limbo for years like so many of us are. the medical system has a lot to answer for here, it's outrageous.sorry for the long post, i guess it just needed to come out!hugs and hugs,annetteSmyelin groovy <smyelingroovy@ yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Annette, I noticed your and Lily (can't remember if I have the spelling right for her name) had a few years between them. :o) It's been a bit different raising the girls than it was the boys. It wasn't that many years between, but I can feel the difference in age. Though maybe it isn't all age? Maybe I should consider this Mystery Syndrome I'm not yet dx'd with, eh? BTW, I was diagnosed by my first Neuro. It's Breastfeeding Syndrome. Several of us here have it. So, if you ever had breasts, male or female, you are at risk.

LOL No, of course he didn't say "Breastfeeding Syndome", but upon realizing I was nursing my youngest at the time he pegged all my symptoms on that. Never mind the symptoms began between my second and third child (who were nine years apart), or that I've not been breastfeeding for a while now and my lips ar still numb... and never mind it's the biggest mess of horsepooey.. . LOLOL Hugs, Challis - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

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You sure can Akiba -- Re: Hi all hi challis,can i just mention how muuuch i haaate the "i get tired, too" remarks? can i curse here?annetteSmyelin groovy <smyelingroovy> wrote: Add in the fact that my Mother is the slowest eater God ever invented, and man that can cut into a lunch hour. Better plan a Saturday around it! <weg> ROFL At least she savors the moments. :o) HUGS to Mom, Challis ~PS... my Mother's slow eating compared to other "slow eaters" is like MS fatigue compared to "yeah, I get tired, too". LOL Re: Hi all hi challis,yeah, i guess my math about the difference in ages wasn't that great, i just meant between the oldest and the youngest. my children are unusual only because (sorry, can't get the color right!) i didn't have any in between. after lily was born i had a major attack, with fatigue being the worst and not being able to care a bit about the house, dinner, taking lily out or fussing over her, etc. at first i thought it was post-partum depression, but as the years went by, i realized i was really sick. in november of 2003 my eyes went really blurry, a symptom i was having more and more. in december i couldn't pee right, in january i started hurting with my first sign of spasticity, and then the tinglies on my entire right side and the left side going completely numb in the spring of 04. so, by using my merk medical handbook i knew i probably had ms before the doctors did! i needed to see two neuros before i finally started being treated. I "failed" the spinal, evoked potentials, the brain mri (at first) and it was only when we did a spinal mri that there was objective "proof" of the disease. thank god my second neuro just did his job and actually acted like a doctor by using his training and experience to go by my SYMPTOMS. i believe that is the old-fashioned and time-honored method for diagnosing illnesses. doctors are too dependent on tests nowadays, and if you get a really lousy doctor, he/she will blame your symptoms on anxiety, breastfeeding (what the hell?), being bipolar (like me), being a crazy, hysterical female, witches, whatever. it would be funny if they (doctors, not witches, i know some and they are the nicest people) didn't just about destroy people's lives. i think being in limbo and being told i had an anxiety disorder by my first neuro made me feel the most helpless i have ever felt. i was terrified that no one would take care of me, i was hurting, and i knew i wasn't that crazy. my sense of self was actually affected, and to this day i hate that woman for her snotty, cavalier attitude. she has a horrible reputation and her waiting room is always crammed like the worst welfare clinic in the country. i never did follow up on the complaint i was going to make to the ama and whoever else would listen. this is tulsa, and the doctors stick together, so i am afraid to make too much of a stink.anyway, my ordeal till i was dxed only lasted a couple of months. i literally cannot imagine being in limbo for years like so many of us are. the medical system has a lot to answer for here, it's outrageous.sorry for the long post, i guess it just needed to come out!hugs and hugs,annetteSmyelin groovy <smyelingroovy@ yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Annette, I noticed your and Lily (can't remember if I have the spelling right for her name) had a few years between them. :o) It's been a bit different raising the girls than it was the boys. It wasn't that many years between, but I can feel the difference in age. Though maybe it isn't all age? Maybe I should consider this Mystery Syndrome I'm not yet dx'd with, eh? BTW, I was diagnosed by my first Neuro. It's Breastfeeding Syndrome. Several of us here have it. So, if you ever had breasts, male or female, you are at risk. LOL No, of course he didn't say "Breastfeeding Syndome", but upon realizing I was nursing my youngest at the time he pegged all my symptoms on that. Never mind the symptoms began between my second and third child (who were nine years apart), or that I've not been breastfeeding for a while now and my lips ar still numb... and never mind it's the biggest mess of horsepooey.. . LOLOL Hugs, Challis - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

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(jumping up and down and waving) Me! Me! I'm a non-jumper too! And a non-squatter! Akiba -- Re: Hi all hi challis,we should do a survey of how many of us can still jump (for joy or anything else!). i am in the non-jumping category, unless you count the way my feet fly around in the air when i've tripped over my own feet and plummet gracelessly to the ground!that's something to catch and play over and over again on you tube. annetteSmyelin groovy <smyelingroovy> wrote: I bet that's how Connie's foot got broken!! Heyyy, I bet that's how the first Connie broke herself last year. Wasn't it last year? Wasn't it Connie? I'm glad my name isn't Connie. They break. Now I'm scared to move because I typed that. LOLOLChallis Re: Hi allhi challis,yeah, i guess my math about the difference in ages wasn't that great, i just meant between the oldest and the youngest. my children are unusual only because (sorry, can't get the color right!) i didn't have any in between. after lily was born i had a major attack, with fatigue being the worst and not being able to care a bit about the house, dinner, taking lily out or fussing over her, etc. at first i thought it was post-partum depression, but as the years went by, i realized i was really sick. in november of 2003 my eyes went really blurry, a symptom i was having more and more. in december i couldn't pee right, in january i started hurting with my first sign of spasticity, and then the tinglies on my entire right side and the left side going completely numb in the spring of 04. so, by using my merk medical handbook i knew i probably had ms before the doctors did! i needed to see two neuros before i finally started being treated. I "failed" the spinal, evoked potentials, the brain mri (at first) and it was only when we did a spinal mri that there was objective "proof" of the disease. thank god my second neuro just did his job and actually acted like a doctor byusing his training and experience to go by my SYMPTOMS. i believe that is the old-fashioned and time-honored method for diagnosing illnesses. doctors are too dependent on tests nowadays, and if you get a really lousy doctor, he/she will blame your symptoms on anxiety, breastfeeding (what the hell?), being bipolar (like me), being a crazy, hysterical female, witches, whatever. it would be funny if they (doctors, not witches, i know some and they are the nicest people) didn't just about destroy people's lives. i think being in limbo and being told i had an anxiety disorder by my first neuro made me feel the most helpless i have ever felt. i was terrified that no one would take care of me, i was hurting, and i knew i wasn't that crazy. my sense of self was actually affected, and to this day i hate that woman for her snotty, cavalier attitude. she has a horrible reputation and her waiting room is always crammed like the worst welfare clinic in thecountry. i never did follow up on the complaint i was going to make to the ama and whoever else would listen. this is tulsa, and the doctors stick together, so i am afraid to make too much of a stink.anyway, my ordeal till i was dxed only lasted a couple of months. i literally cannot imagine being in limbo for years like so many of us are. the medical system has a lot to answer for here, it's outrageous.sorry for the long post, i guess it just needed to come out!hugs and hugs,annetteSmyelin groovy wrote: Hi Annette,I noticed your and Lily (can't remember if I have the spelling right for her name) had a few years between them. :o)It's been a bit different raising the girls than it was the boys. It wasn't that many years between, but I can feel the difference in age. Though maybe it isn't all age? Maybe I should consider this Mystery Syndrome I'm not yet dx'd with, eh? BTW, I was diagnosed by my first Neuro. It's Breastfeeding Syndrome. Several of us here have it. So, if you ever had breasts, male or female, you are at risk. LOL No, of course he didn't say "Breastfeeding Syndome", but upon realizing I was nursing my youngest at the time he pegged all my symptoms on that. Never mind the symptoms began between my second and third child (who were nine years apart), or that I've not been breastfeeding for a while now and my lips ar still numb... and never mind it's the biggest mess of horsepooey.. . LOLOLHugs,Challis-Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ____________________________________________________________________________________Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

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Re: Hi allhi challis,yeah, i guess my math about the difference in ages wasn't that great, i just meant between the oldest and the youngest. my children are unusual only because (sorry, can't get the color right!) i didn't have any in between. after lily was born i had a major attack, with fatigue being the worst and not being able to care a bit about the house, dinner, taking lily out or fussing over her, etc. at first i thought it was post-partum depression, but as the years went by, i realized i was really sick. in november of 2003 my eyes went really blurry, a symptom i was having more and more. in december i couldn't pee right, in january i started hurting with my first sign of spasticity, and then the tinglies on my entire right side and the left side going completely numb in the spring of 04. so, by using my merk medical handbook i knew i probably had ms before the doctors did! i needed to see two neuros before i finally started being treated. I "failed" the spinal, evoked potentials, the brain mri (at first) and it was only when we did a spinal mri that there was objective "proof" of the disease. thank god my second neuro just did his job and actually acted like a doctor byusing his training and experience to go by my SYMPTOMS. i believe that is the old-fashioned and time-honored method for diagnosing illnesses. doctors are too dependent on tests nowadays, and if you get a really lousy doctor, he/she will blame your symptoms on anxiety, breastfeeding (what the hell?), being bipolar (like me), being a crazy, hysterical female, witches, whatever. it would be funny if they (doctors, not witches, i know some and they are the nicest people) didn't just about destroy people's lives. i think being in limbo and being told i had an anxiety disorder by my first neuro made me feel the most helpless i have ever felt. i was terrified that no one would take care of me, i was hurting, and i knew i wasn't that crazy. my sense of self was actually affected, and to this day i hate that woman for her snotty, cavalier attitude. she has a horrible reputation and her waiting room is always crammed like the worst welfare clinic in thecountry. i never did follow up on the complaint i was going to make to the ama and whoever else would listen. this is tulsa, and the doctors stick together, so i am afraid to make too much of a stink.anyway, my ordeal till i was dxed only lasted a couple of months. i literally cannot imagine being in limbo for years like so many of us are. the medical system has a lot to answer for here, it's outrageous.sorry for the long post, i guess it just needed to come out!hugs and hugs,annetteSmyelin groovy wrote: Hi Annette,I noticed your and Lily (can't remember if I have the spelling right for her name) had a few years between them. :o)It's been a bit different raising the girls than it was the boys. It wasn't that many years between, but I can feel the difference in age. Though maybe it isn't all age? Maybe I should consider this Mystery Syndrome I'm not yet dx'd with, eh? BTW, I was diagnosed by my first Neuro. It's Breastfeeding Syndrome. Several of us here have it. So, if you ever had breasts, male or female, you are at risk. LOL No, of course he didn't say "Breastfeeding Syndome", but upon realizing I was nursing my youngest at the time he pegged all my symptoms on that. Never mind the symptoms began between my second and third child (who were nine years apart), or that I've not been breastfeeding for a while now and my lips ar still numb... and never mind it's the biggest mess of horsepooey.. . LOLOLHugs,Challis-Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ____________________________________________________________________________________Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

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hi connie,don't rotfl or you will break a hip! lolannetteConnie wrote: Rotfl!!!!!!!!! Actually we are babysitting my daughters dog, BIG dog! He sat down, thought I was going to step on him and down I went, heard a crack, and thought Uh-oh, never broke a bone before! ConnieS Re: Hi all hi challis,yeah, i guess my math about the difference in ages wasn't that great, i just meant between the

oldest and the youngest. my children are unusual only because (sorry, can't get the color right!) i didn't have any in between. after lily was born i had a major attack, with fatigue being the worst and not being able to care a bit about the house, dinner, taking lily out or fussing over her, etc. at first i thought it was post-partum depression, but as the years went by, i realized i was really sick. in november of 2003 my eyes went really blurry, a symptom i was having more and more. in december i couldn't pee right, in january i started hurting with my first sign of spasticity, and then the tinglies on my entire right side and the left side going completely numb in the spring of 04. so, by using my merk medical handbook i knew i probably had ms before the doctors did! i

needed to see two neuros before i finally started being treated. I "failed" the spinal, evoked potentials, the brain mri (at first) and it was only when we did a spinal mri that there was objective "proof" of the disease. thank god my second neuro just did his job and actually acted like a doctor by using his training and experience to go by my SYMPTOMS. i believe that is the old-fashioned and time-honored method for diagnosing illnesses. doctors are too dependent on tests nowadays, and if you get a really lousy doctor, he/she will blame your symptoms on anxiety, breastfeeding (what the hell?), being bipolar (like me), being a crazy, hysterical female, witches, whatever. it would be funny if they (doctors, not witches, i know some and they are the nicest people) didn't just about destroy people's lives. i think being in limbo and

being told i had an anxiety disorder by my first neuro made me feel the most helpless i have ever felt. i was terrified that no one would take care of me, i was hurting, and i knew i wasn't that crazy. my sense of self was actually affected, and to this day i hate that woman for her snotty, cavalier attitude. she has a horrible reputation and her waiting room is always crammed like the worst welfare clinic in the country. i never did follow up on the complaint i was going to make to the ama and whoever else would listen. this is tulsa, and the doctors stick together, so i am afraid to make too much of a stink.anyway, my ordeal till i was dxed only lasted a couple of months. i literally cannot imagine being in limbo for years like so many of us are. the medical system has a lot to answer for here, it's

outrageous.sorry for the long post, i guess it just needed to come out!hugs and hugs,annetteSmyelin groovy <smyelingroovy@ yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Annette, I noticed your and Lily (can't remember if I have the spelling right for her

name) had a few years between them. :o) It's been a bit different raising the girls than it was the boys. It wasn't that many years between, but I can feel the difference in age. Though maybe it isn't all age? Maybe I should consider this Mystery Syndrome I'm not yet dx'd with, eh? BTW, I was diagnosed by my first Neuro. It's Breastfeeding Syndrome. Several of us here have it. So, if you ever had breasts, male or female, you are at risk. LOL No, of course he didn't say "Breastfeeding Syndome", but upon realizing I was nursing my

youngest at the time he pegged all my symptoms on that. Never mind the symptoms began between my second and third child (who were nine years apart), or that I've not been breastfeeding for a while now and my lips ar still numb... and never mind it's the biggest mess of horsepooey.. . LOLOL Hugs, Challis - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your

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She was told when we go back to kelowna in March that's it, he comes with us, and he stays there. I can't take care of him

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hi challis,yeah, i guess my math about the difference in ages wasn't that great, i just meant between the oldest and the youngest. my children are unusual only because (sorry, can't get the color right!) i didn't have any in between. after lily was born i had a major attack, with fatigue being the worst and not being able to care a bit about the house, dinner, taking lily out or fussing over her, etc. at first i thought it was post-partum depression, but as the years went by, i realized i was really sick. in november of 2003 my eyes went really blurry, a symptom i was having more and more. in december i couldn't pee right, in january i started hurting with my first sign of spasticity, and then the tinglies on my entire right side and the left side going completely numb in the spring of 04. so, by using my merk medical handbook i knew i probably had ms before the doctors did! i needed to see two neuros before i finally started being treated. I "failed" the spinal, evoked potentials, the brain mri (at first) and it was only when we did a spinal mri that there was objective "proof" of the disease. thank god my second neuro just did his job and actually acted like a doctor by using his training and experience to go by my SYMPTOMS. i believe that is the old-fashioned and time-honored method for diagnosing illnesses. doctors are too dependent on tests nowadays, and if you get a really lousy doctor, he/she will blame your symptoms on anxiety, breastfeeding (what the hell?), being bipolar (like me), being a crazy, hysterical female, witches, whatever. it would be funny if they (doctors, not witches, i know some and they are the nicest people) didn't just about destroy people's lives. i think being in limbo and being told i had an anxiety disorder by my first neuro made me feel the most helpless i have ever felt. i was terrified that no one would take care of me, i was hurting, and i knew i wasn't that crazy. my sense of self was actually affected, and to this day i hate that woman for her snotty, cavalier attitude. she has a horrible reputation and her waiting room is always crammed like the worst welfare clinic in the country. i never did follow up on the complaint i was going to make to the ama and whoever else would listen. this is tulsa, and the doctors stick together, so i am afraid to make too much of a stink.anyway, my ordeal till i was dxed only lasted a couple of months. i literally cannot imagine being in limbo for years like so many of us are. the medical system has a lot to answer for here, it's outrageous.sorry for the long post, i guess it just needed to come out!hugs and hugs,annetteSmyelin groovy <smyelingroovy@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Annette,

I noticed your and Lily (can't remember if I have the spelling right for her name) had a few years between them. :o)

It's been a bit different raising the girls than it was the boys. It wasn't that many years between, but I can feel the difference in age. Though maybe it isn't all age? Maybe I should consider this Mystery Syndrome I'm not yet dx'd with, eh?

BTW, I was diagnosed by my first Neuro. It's Breastfeeding Syndrome. Several of us here have it. So, if you ever had breasts, male or female, you are at risk.

LOL No, of course he didn't say "Breastfeeding Syndome", but upon realizing I was nursing my youngest at the time he pegged all my symptoms on that. Never mind the symptoms began between my second and third child (who were nine years apart), or that I've not been breastfeeding for a while now and my lips ar still numb... and never mind it's the biggest mess of horsepooey.. . LOLOL

Hugs,

Challis

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Connie

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hi challis,yeah, i guess my math about the difference in ages wasn't that great, i just meant between the oldest and the youngest. my children are unusual only because (sorry, can't get the color right!) i didn't have any in between. after lily was born i had a major attack, with fatigue being the worst and not being able to care a bit about the house, dinner, taking lily out or fussing over her, etc. at first i thought it was post-partum depression, but as the years went by, i realized i was really sick. in november of 2003 my eyes went really blurry, a symptom i was having more and more. in december i couldn't pee right, in january i started hurting with my first sign of spasticity, and then the tinglies on my entire right side and the left side going completely numb in the spring of 04. so, by using my merk medical handbook i knew i probably had ms before the doctors did! i needed to see two neuros before i finally started being treated. I "failed" the spinal, evoked potentials, the brain mri (at first) and it was only when we did a spinal mri that there was objective "proof" of the disease. thank god my second neuro just did his job and actually acted like a doctor by using his training and experience to go by my SYMPTOMS. i believe that is the old-fashioned and time-honored method for diagnosing illnesses. doctors are too dependent on tests nowadays, and if you get a really lousy doctor, he/she will blame your symptoms on anxiety, breastfeeding (what the hell?), being bipolar (like me), being a crazy, hysterical female, witches, whatever. it would be funny if they (doctors, not witches, i know some and they are the nicest people) didn't just about destroy people's lives. i think being in limbo and being told i had an anxiety disorder by my first neuro made me feel the most helpless i have ever felt. i was terrified that no one would take care of me, i was hurting, and i knew i wasn't that crazy. my sense of self was actually affected, and to this day i hate that woman for her snotty, cavalier attitude. she has a horrible reputation and her waiting room is always crammed like the worst welfare clinic in the country. i never did follow up on the complaint i was going to make to the ama and whoever else would listen. this is tulsa, and the doctors stick together, so i am afraid to make too much of a stink.anyway, my ordeal till i was dxed only lasted a couple of months. i literally cannot imagine being in limbo for years like so many of us are. the medical system has a lot to answer for here, it's outrageous.sorry for the long post, i guess it just needed to come out!hugs and hugs,annetteSmyelin groovy <smyelingroovy@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Annette,

I noticed your and Lily (can't remember if I have the spelling right for her name) had a few years between them. :o)

It's been a bit different raising the girls than it was the boys. It wasn't that many years between, but I can feel the difference in age. Though maybe it isn't all age? Maybe I should consider this Mystery Syndrome I'm not yet dx'd with, eh?

BTW, I was diagnosed by my first Neuro. It's Breastfeeding Syndrome. Several of us here have it. So, if you ever had breasts, male or female, you are at risk.

LOL No, of course he didn't say "Breastfeeding Syndome", but upon realizing I was nursing my youngest at the time he pegged all my symptoms on that. Never mind the symptoms began between my second and third child (who were nine years apart), or that I've not been breastfeeding for a while now and my lips ar still numb... and never mind it's the biggest mess of horsepooey.. . LOLOL

Hugs,

Challis

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Connie

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hi challis,yeah, i guess my math about the difference in ages wasn't that great, i just meant between the oldest and the youngest. my children are unusual only because (sorry, can't get the color right!) i didn't have any in between. after lily was born i had a major attack, with fatigue being the worst and not being able to care a bit about the house, dinner, taking lily out or fussing over her, etc. at first i thought it was post-partum depression, but as the years went by, i realized i was really sick. in november of 2003 my eyes went really blurry, a symptom i was having more and more. in december i couldn't pee right, in january i started hurting with my first sign of spasticity, and then the tinglies on my entire right side and the left side going completely numb in the spring of 04. so, by using my merk medical handbook i knew i probably had ms before the doctors did! i needed to see two neuros before i finally started being treated. I "failed" the spinal, evoked potentials, the brain mri (at first) and it was only when we did a spinal mri that there was objective "proof" of the disease. thank god my second neuro just did his job and actually acted like a doctor by using his training and experience to go by my SYMPTOMS. i believe that is the old-fashioned and time-honored method for diagnosing illnesses. doctors are too dependent on tests nowadays, and if you get a really lousy doctor, he/she will blame your symptoms on anxiety, breastfeeding (what the hell?), being bipolar (like me), being a crazy, hysterical female, witches, whatever. it would be funny if they (doctors, not witches, i know some and they are the nicest people) didn't just about destroy people's lives. i think being in limbo and being told i had an anxiety disorder by my first neuro made me feel the most helpless i have ever felt. i was terrified that no one would take care of me, i was hurting, and i knew i wasn't that crazy. my sense of self was actually affected, and to this day i hate that woman for her snotty, cavalier attitude. she has a horrible reputation and her waiting room is always crammed like the worst welfare clinic in the country. i never did follow up on the complaint i was going to make to the ama and whoever else would listen. this is tulsa, and the doctors stick together, so i am afraid to make too much of a stink.anyway, my ordeal till i was dxed only lasted a couple of months. i literally cannot imagine being in limbo for years like so many of us are. the medical system has a lot to answer for here, it's outrageous.sorry for the long post, i guess it just needed to come out!hugs and hugs,annetteSmyelin groovy <smyelingroovy@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Annette,

I noticed your and Lily (can't remember if I have the spelling right for her name) had a few years between them. :o)

It's been a bit different raising the girls than it was the boys. It wasn't that many years between, but I can feel the difference in age. Though maybe it isn't all age? Maybe I should consider this Mystery Syndrome I'm not yet dx'd with, eh?

BTW, I was diagnosed by my first Neuro. It's Breastfeeding Syndrome. Several of us here have it. So, if you ever had breasts, male or female, you are at risk.

LOL No, of course he didn't say "Breastfeeding Syndome", but upon realizing I was nursing my youngest at the time he pegged all my symptoms on that. Never mind the symptoms began between my second and third child (who were nine years apart), or that I've not been breastfeeding for a while now and my lips ar still numb... and never mind it's the biggest mess of horsepooey.. . LOLOL

Hugs,

Challis

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Don't think I'll break my hip Annette, it just slides in and out of place all the time! LOL

Connie

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hi challis,yeah, i guess my math about the difference in ages wasn't that great, i just meant between the oldest and the youngest. my children are unusual only because (sorry, can't get the color right!) i didn't have any in between. after lily was born i had a major attack, with fatigue being the worst and not being able to care a bit about the house, dinner, taking lily out or fussing over her, etc. at first i thought it was post-partum depression, but as the years went by, i realized i was really sick. in november of 2003 my eyes went really blurry, a symptom i was having more and more. in december i couldn't pee right, in january i started hurting with my first sign of spasticity, and then the tinglies on my entire right side and the left side going completely numb in the spring of 04. so, by using my merk medical handbook i knew i probably had ms before the doctors did! i needed to see two neuros before i finally started being treated. I "failed" the spinal, evoked potentials, the brain mri (at first) and it was only when we did a spinal mri that there was objective "proof" of the disease. thank god my second neuro just did his job and actually acted like a doctor by using his training and experience to go by my SYMPTOMS. i believe that is the old-fashioned and time-honored method for diagnosing illnesses. doctors are too dependent on tests nowadays, and if you get a really lousy doctor, he/she will blame your symptoms on anxiety, breastfeeding (what the hell?), being bipolar (like me), being a crazy, hysterical female, witches, whatever. it would be funny if they (doctors, not witches, i know some and they are the nicest people) didn't just about destroy people's lives. i think being in limbo and being told i had an anxiety disorder by my first neuro made me feel the most helpless i have ever felt. i was terrified that no one would take care of me, i was hurting, and i knew i wasn't that crazy. my sense of self was actually affected, and to this day i hate that woman for her snotty, cavalier attitude. she has a horrible reputation and her waiting room is always crammed like the worst welfare clinic in the country. i never did follow up on the complaint i was going to make to the ama and whoever else would listen. this is tulsa, and the doctors stick together, so i am afraid to make too much of a stink.anyway, my ordeal till i was dxed only lasted a couple of months. i literally cannot imagine being in limbo for years like so many of us are. the medical system has a lot to answer for here, it's outrageous.sorry for the long post, i guess it just needed to come out!hugs and hugs,annetteSmyelin groovy <smyelingroovy@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Annette,

I noticed your and Lily (can't remember if I have the spelling right for her name) had a few years between them. :o)

It's been a bit different raising the girls than it was the boys. It wasn't that many years between, but I can feel the difference in age. Though maybe it isn't all age? Maybe I should consider this Mystery Syndrome I'm not yet dx'd with, eh?

BTW, I was diagnosed by my first Neuro. It's Breastfeeding Syndrome. Several of us here have it. So, if you ever had breasts, male or female, you are at risk.

LOL No, of course he didn't say "Breastfeeding Syndome", but upon realizing I was nursing my youngest at the time he pegged all my symptoms on that. Never mind the symptoms began between my second and third child (who were nine years apart), or that I've not been breastfeeding for a while now and my lips ar still numb... and never mind it's the biggest mess of horsepooey.. . LOLOL

Hugs,

Challis

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Don't think I'll break my hip Annette, it just slides in and out of place all the time! LOL

Connie

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hi challis,yeah, i guess my math about the difference in ages wasn't that great, i just meant between the oldest and the youngest. my children are unusual only because (sorry, can't get the color right!) i didn't have any in between. after lily was born i had a major attack, with fatigue being the worst and not being able to care a bit about the house, dinner, taking lily out or fussing over her, etc. at first i thought it was post-partum depression, but as the years went by, i realized i was really sick. in november of 2003 my eyes went really blurry, a symptom i was having more and more. in december i couldn't pee right, in january i started hurting with my first sign of spasticity, and then the tinglies on my entire right side and the left side going completely numb in the spring of 04. so, by using my merk medical handbook i knew i probably had ms before the doctors did! i needed to see two neuros before i finally started being treated. I "failed" the spinal, evoked potentials, the brain mri (at first) and it was only when we did a spinal mri that there was objective "proof" of the disease. thank god my second neuro just did his job and actually acted like a doctor by using his training and experience to go by my SYMPTOMS. i believe that is the old-fashioned and time-honored method for diagnosing illnesses. doctors are too dependent on tests nowadays, and if you get a really lousy doctor, he/she will blame your symptoms on anxiety, breastfeeding (what the hell?), being bipolar (like me), being a crazy, hysterical female, witches, whatever. it would be funny if they (doctors, not witches, i know some and they are the nicest people) didn't just about destroy people's lives. i think being in limbo and being told i had an anxiety disorder by my first neuro made me feel the most helpless i have ever felt. i was terrified that no one would take care of me, i was hurting, and i knew i wasn't that crazy. my sense of self was actually affected, and to this day i hate that woman for her snotty, cavalier attitude. she has a horrible reputation and her waiting room is always crammed like the worst welfare clinic in the country. i never did follow up on the complaint i was going to make to the ama and whoever else would listen. this is tulsa, and the doctors stick together, so i am afraid to make too much of a stink.anyway, my ordeal till i was dxed only lasted a couple of months. i literally cannot imagine being in limbo for years like so many of us are. the medical system has a lot to answer for here, it's outrageous.sorry for the long post, i guess it just needed to come out!hugs and hugs,annetteSmyelin groovy <smyelingroovy@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Annette,

I noticed your and Lily (can't remember if I have the spelling right for her name) had a few years between them. :o)

It's been a bit different raising the girls than it was the boys. It wasn't that many years between, but I can feel the difference in age. Though maybe it isn't all age? Maybe I should consider this Mystery Syndrome I'm not yet dx'd with, eh?

BTW, I was diagnosed by my first Neuro. It's Breastfeeding Syndrome. Several of us here have it. So, if you ever had breasts, male or female, you are at risk.

LOL No, of course he didn't say "Breastfeeding Syndome", but upon realizing I was nursing my youngest at the time he pegged all my symptoms on that. Never mind the symptoms began between my second and third child (who were nine years apart), or that I've not been breastfeeding for a while now and my lips ar still numb... and never mind it's the biggest mess of horsepooey.. . LOLOL

Hugs,

Challis

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Don't think I'll break my hip Annette, it just slides in and out of place all the time! LOL

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hi challis,yeah, i guess my math about the difference in ages wasn't that great, i just meant between the oldest and the youngest. my children are unusual only because (sorry, can't get the color right!) i didn't have any in between. after lily was born i had a major attack, with fatigue being the worst and not being able to care a bit about the house, dinner, taking lily out or fussing over her, etc. at first i thought it was post-partum depression, but as the years went by, i realized i was really sick. in november of 2003 my eyes went really blurry, a symptom i was having more and more. in december i couldn't pee right, in january i started hurting with my first sign of spasticity, and then the tinglies on my entire right side and the left side going completely numb in the spring of 04. so, by using my merk medical handbook i knew i probably had ms before the doctors did! i needed to see two neuros before i finally started being treated. I "failed" the spinal, evoked potentials, the brain mri (at first) and it was only when we did a spinal mri that there was objective "proof" of the disease. thank god my second neuro just did his job and actually acted like a doctor by using his training and experience to go by my SYMPTOMS. i believe that is the old-fashioned and time-honored method for diagnosing illnesses. doctors are too dependent on tests nowadays, and if you get a really lousy doctor, he/she will blame your symptoms on anxiety, breastfeeding (what the hell?), being bipolar (like me), being a crazy, hysterical female, witches, whatever. it would be funny if they (doctors, not witches, i know some and they are the nicest people) didn't just about destroy people's lives. i think being in limbo and being told i had an anxiety disorder by my first neuro made me feel the most helpless i have ever felt. i was terrified that no one would take care of me, i was hurting, and i knew i wasn't that crazy. my sense of self was actually affected, and to this day i hate that woman for her snotty, cavalier attitude. she has a horrible reputation and her waiting room is always crammed like the worst welfare clinic in the country. i never did follow up on the complaint i was going to make to the ama and whoever else would listen. this is tulsa, and the doctors stick together, so i am afraid to make too much of a stink.anyway, my ordeal till i was dxed only lasted a couple of months. i literally cannot imagine being in limbo for years like so many of us are. the medical system has a lot to answer for here, it's outrageous.sorry for the long post, i guess it just needed to come out!hugs and hugs,annetteSmyelin groovy <smyelingroovy@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Annette,

I noticed your and Lily (can't remember if I have the spelling right for her name) had a few years between them. :o)

It's been a bit different raising the girls than it was the boys. It wasn't that many years between, but I can feel the difference in age. Though maybe it isn't all age? Maybe I should consider this Mystery Syndrome I'm not yet dx'd with, eh?

BTW, I was diagnosed by my first Neuro. It's Breastfeeding Syndrome. Several of us here have it. So, if you ever had breasts, male or female, you are at risk.

LOL No, of course he didn't say "Breastfeeding Syndome", but upon realizing I was nursing my youngest at the time he pegged all my symptoms on that. Never mind the symptoms began between my second and third child (who were nine years apart), or that I've not been breastfeeding for a while now and my lips ar still numb... and never mind it's the biggest mess of horsepooey.. . LOLOL

Hugs,

Challis

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LOLOL Now there's an image! You do avoid skirts and dresses, yes? LOL

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Re: Hi allhi challis,yeah, i guess my math about the difference in ages wasn't that great, i just meant between the oldest and the youngest. my children are unusual only because (sorry, can't get the color right!) i didn't have any in between. after lily was born i had a major attack, with fatigue being the worst and not being able to care a bit about the house, dinner, taking lily out or fussing over her, etc. at first i thought it was post-partum depression, but as the years went by, i realized i was really sick. in

november of 2003 my eyes went really blurry, a symptom i was having more and more. in december i couldn't pee right, in january i started hurting with my first sign of spasticity, and then the tinglies on my entire right side and the left side going completely numb in the spring of 04. so, by using my merk medical handbook i knew i probably had ms before the doctors did! i needed to see two neuros before i finally started being treated. I "failed" the spinal, evoked potentials, the brain mri (at first) and it was only when we did a spinal mri that there was objective "proof" of the disease. thank god my second neuro just did his job and actually acted like a doctor byusing his training and experience to go by my SYMPTOMS. i believe that is the old-fashioned and time-honored method for diagnosing illnesses. doctors are too dependent on tests nowadays, and if you get a really lousy doctor, he/she will blame your symptoms on anxiety, breastfeeding

(what the hell?), being bipolar (like me), being a crazy, hysterical female, witches, whatever. it would be funny if they (doctors, not witches, i know some and they are the nicest people) didn't just about destroy people's lives. i think being in limbo and being told i had an anxiety disorder by my first neuro made me feel the most helpless i have ever felt. i was terrified that no one would take care of me, i was hurting, and i knew i wasn't that crazy. my sense of self was actually affected, and to this day i hate that woman for her snotty, cavalier attitude. she has a horrible reputation and her waiting room is always crammed like the worst welfare clinic in thecountry. i never did follow up on the complaint i was going to make to the ama and whoever else would listen. this is tulsa, and the doctors stick together, so i am afraid to make too much of a stink.anyway, my ordeal till i was dxed only lasted a couple of months. i literally cannot

imagine being in limbo for years like so many of us are. the medical system has a lot to answer for here, it's outrageous.sorry for the long post, i guess it just needed to come out!hugs and hugs,annetteSmyelin groovy wrote: Hi Annette,I noticed your and Lily (can't remember if I have the spelling right for her name) had a few years between them. :o)It's been a bit different raising the girls than it was the boys. It wasn't that many years between, but I can feel the difference in age. Though maybe it isn't all age? Maybe I should consider this Mystery Syndrome I'm not yet dx'd with, eh? BTW, I was diagnosed by my first Neuro. It's Breastfeeding Syndrome. Several of us here have it. So, if you ever had breasts, male or female, you are at risk. LOL No, of course he didn't say "Breastfeeding Syndome", but upon realizing I was nursing my youngest at the time he pegged all my symptoms on that.

Never mind the symptoms began between my second and third child (who were nine years apart), or that I've not been breastfeeding for a while now and my lips ar still numb... and never mind it's the biggest mess of horsepooey.. . LOLOLHugs,Challis-Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile. yahoo.com/ ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ

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We already know the word(s) you're thinking of. LOL

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hi challis,yeah, i guess my math about the difference in ages wasn't that great, i just meant between the oldest and the youngest. my children are unusual only because (sorry, can't get the color right!) i didn't have any in between. after lily was born i had a major attack, with fatigue being the worst and not being able to care a bit about the house, dinner, taking lily out or fussing over her, etc. at first i thought it was post-partum depression, but as the years went by, i realized i was really sick. in november of 2003 my eyes went really blurry, a symptom i was having more and more. in december i couldn't pee right, in january i started hurting with my first sign of spasticity, and then the tinglies on my

entire right side and the left side going completely numb in the spring of 04. so, by using my merk medical handbook i knew i probably had ms before the doctors did! i needed to see two neuros before i finally started being treated. I "failed" the spinal, evoked potentials, the brain mri (at first) and it was only when we did a spinal mri that there was objective "proof" of the disease. thank god my second neuro just did his job and actually acted like a doctor by using his training and experience to go by my SYMPTOMS. i believe that is the old-fashioned and time-honored method for diagnosing illnesses. doctors are too dependent on tests nowadays, and if you get a really lousy doctor, he/she will blame your symptoms on anxiety, breastfeeding (what the hell?), being bipolar (like me), being a crazy, hysterical female, witches, whatever. it would be funny if they (doctors, not witches, i know some and they are the

nicest people) didn't just about destroy people's lives. i think being in limbo and being told i had an anxiety disorder by my first neuro made me feel the most helpless i have ever felt. i was terrified that no one would take care of me, i was hurting, and i knew i wasn't that crazy. my sense of self was actually affected, and to this day i hate that woman for her snotty, cavalier attitude. she has a horrible reputation and her waiting room is always crammed like the worst welfare clinic in the country. i never did follow up on the complaint i was going to make to the ama and whoever else would listen. this is tulsa, and the doctors stick together, so i am afraid to make too much of a stink.anyway, my ordeal till i was dxed only lasted a couple of months. i literally cannot imagine being in limbo for years like so many of us are. the medical system has a lot to answer for here, it's

outrageous.sorry for the long post, i guess it just needed to come out!hugs and hugs,annetteSmyelin groovy <smyelingroovy@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Annette,

I noticed your and Lily (can't remember if I have the spelling right for her name) had a few years between them. :o)

It's been a bit different raising the girls than it was the boys. It wasn't that many years between, but I can feel the difference in age. Though maybe it isn't all age? Maybe I should consider this Mystery Syndrome I'm not yet dx'd with, eh?

BTW, I was diagnosed by my first Neuro. It's Breastfeeding Syndrome. Several of us here have it. So, if you ever had breasts, male or female, you are at risk.

LOL No, of course he didn't say "Breastfeeding Syndome", but upon realizing I was nursing my youngest at the time he pegged all my symptoms on that. Never mind the symptoms began between my second and third child (who were nine years apart), or that I've not been breastfeeding for a while now and my lips ar still numb... and never mind it's the biggest mess of horsepooey.. . LOLOL

Hugs,

Challis

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