No more hands in my son's mouth... Finally!

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila!

Thank you for sending me your message. I decided to stop the goat

yogurt after I noticed that one of them was putting his fingers in

his mouth. I knew the only new thing that I had given them was the

goat yogurt. They are not having any yogurt for now. And the

curious thing is that has stopped doing it.

A friend told me to start giving them nut yogurt. Do you think that

it will be a good idea? My boys have been on the SCD since February

17/04.

I appreciate your comment.

Regards,

( & Simon 4 yo)

> Hi ,

>

> We usually recommend starting with only 1/4 teaspoon of yogurt

> skipping a day in between., and depending on the reaction going

with

> 1/4 teaspoon on the third day. The yogurt is powerful stuff so 1

> teaspoon may be too much at first.

>

> This is child dependant because each kid is different. Some can

> start with more and others have to go even slower.

>

> Sheila UC, 20 years -- in remission after 38 mos SCD

> mom of SCD 23 mos

>

>

>

> > 2/17/04. This week I started giving them 1 tsp of yogurt.

> Probably

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I don't have any personal experience with the nut yogurt. Others have and

have seen good results. Hopefully they will chime in.

If I recall correctly you started with 1 teaspoon of yogurt. The usual

amount we recommend is 1/4 teaspoon (especially for those who have had

problems with dairy in the past). If you decide to try yogurt again (nut,

goat, cow or camel) please start with the small amount first and slowly

increase skipping a day or two in between. The die-off with yogurt can be

pretty powerful and that's why we recommend the slow start for some. The

fingers in mouth may be part of die-off but is hard to say without more

information.

Did both of your boys doing the fingers in mouth. Did you see any positive

reactions? Did they have any change in bm's, change in behaviours (good or

bad)?

Sheila UC, 20 years -- in remission after 38 mos SCD

mom of SCD 23 mos

> Thank you for sending me your message. I decided to stop the goat

> yogurt after I noticed that one of them was putting his fingers in

> his mouth. I knew the only new thing that I had given them was the

> goat yogurt. They are not having any yogurt for now. And the

> curious thing is that has stopped doing it.

>

> A friend told me to start giving them nut yogurt. Do you think that

> it will be a good idea? My boys have been on the SCD since February

> 17/04.

[Guest guest]

Fingers in mouth could be more 'stimmy' behavior due to die-off from yogurt.

One great oral stimulation, for Luke, is to let him chew ice or chew something

rubbery and hard. His stimminess increased with die-off but then was all but

GONE after a while. So you'll have to decide whether to weather it out or not.

in NC

Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate;

, age 3; and , 21 mos

All SCD since 1/26/04

Re: No more hands in my son's mouth... Finally!

Hi ,

I don't have any personal experience with the nut yogurt. Others have and

have seen good results. Hopefully they will chime in.

If I recall correctly you started with 1 teaspoon of yogurt. The usual

amount we recommend is 1/4 teaspoon (especially for those who have had

problems with dairy in the past). If you decide to try yogurt again (nut,

goat, cow or camel) please start with the small amount first and slowly

increase skipping a day or two in between. The die-off with yogurt can be

pretty powerful and that's why we recommend the slow start for some. The

fingers in mouth may be part of die-off but is hard to say without more

information.

Did both of your boys doing the fingers in mouth. Did you see any positive

reactions? Did they have any change in bm's, change in behaviours (good or

bad)?

Sheila UC, 20 years -- in remission after 38 mos SCD

mom of SCD 23 mos

> Thank you for sending me your message. I decided to stop the goat

> yogurt after I noticed that one of them was putting his fingers in

> his mouth. I knew the only new thing that I had given them was the

> goat yogurt. They are not having any yogurt for now. And the

> curious thing is that has stopped doing it.

>

> A friend told me to start giving them nut yogurt. Do you think that

> it will be a good idea? My boys have been on the SCD since February

> 17/04.

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

Sorry I keep forgetting to trim posts, going to really work on remembering

that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest guest]

" I don't have any personal experience with the nut yogurt. Others

have and have seen good results. Hopefully they will chime in. "

Nut yoghurt is a fine, safe and tasty alternative

to the goat's. See recipe at www.pecanbread.com. Click on recipes and

scroll down till Nut yoghurt.

Marjan

Netherlands

Mom to Nick, 7, SCD since jan 18 2003

http://autisme.boogolinks.nl/

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila: I stopped giving my sons the goat yogurt and I am

planning to give them coconut yogurt, but next week. I will keep in

mind your advice.

You know, it is very hard to do this diet because I spend a lot of

time in the kitchen. But I love it, because I can see a lot of good

things that it has brought to my family. I have seen a lot of

changes in my boys. Simon is not having constipation problems. For

example, the last 5 days he had his BMs everyday and without any

problem. Today he didn't have any BM but I am sure that he will do

it tomorrow. I am not worried for now and I am crossing my fingers

that I never will be again. After we started the SCD he is talking

and playing a lot more. He still has some problems like playing with

his fingers and doing some wierd movements. He was not able to tell

me what it meant. But now he can tell me. He says that it is a door

and he is opening it. Other times, he is making some sounds like

singing a song to himself or humming. And his behavior has improved

a lot too.

has never had any problem with his BMs (thank you God!) but

we noticed that he was putting his fingers in his mouth. After I

read a message from a mom having a same problem with her son, it made

me feel that it was the yogurt that was causing the problem. I

stopped it and the problem disappeared. It took two days or so for

him to stop doing it. He stopped completey flapping his hands but he

is still moving his hands, like moving them in front of his face. He

has improved a lot too. He is talking more and more every day and he

loves to play as well. It is so funny because I talk with them in

Spanish and he said to me " mom, don't talk Español, please "

I will talk with you soon.

( & Simon 4 yo) SCD 02/17/04

> Hi ,

>

> I don't have any personal experience with the nut yogurt. Others

have and

> have seen good results. Hopefully they will chime in.

>

> If I recall correctly you started with 1 teaspoon of yogurt. The

usual

> amount we recommend is 1/4 teaspoon (especially for those who have

had

> problems with dairy in the past). If you decide to try yogurt

again (nut,

> goat, cow or camel) please start with the small amount first and

slowly

> increase skipping a day or two in between. The die-off with yogurt

can be

> pretty powerful and that's why we recommend the slow start for

some. The

> fingers in mouth may be part of die-off but is hard to say without

more

> information.

>

> Did both of your boys doing the fingers in mouth. Did you see any

positive

> reactions? Did they have any change in bm's, change in behaviours

(good or

> bad)?

>

> Sheila UC, 20 years -- in remission after 38 mos SCD

> mom of SCD 23 mos

>

>

> > Thank you for sending me your message. I decided to stop the goat

> > yogurt after I noticed that one of them was putting his fingers in

> > his mouth. I knew the only new thing that I had given them was

the

> > goat yogurt. They are not having any yogurt for now. And the

> > curious thing is that has stopped doing it.

> >

> > A friend told me to start giving them nut yogurt. Do you think

that

> > it will be a good idea? My boys have been on the SCD since

February

> > 17/04.

[Guest guest]

Hi : Thank you for your answer. I prefer to wait and

introduce coconut yogurt. I was so scared when I saw him doing it.

I will try again the next week.

You take care,

( & Simon 4 yo) SCD 02-1704

> Fingers in mouth could be more 'stimmy' behavior due to die-off

from yogurt. One great oral stimulation, for Luke, is to let him

chew ice or chew something rubbery and hard. His stimminess

increased with die-off but then was all but GONE after a while. So

you'll have to decide whether to weather it out or not.

>

> in NC

> Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate;

> , age 3; and , 21 mos

> All SCD since 1/26/04

>

> Re: No more hands in my son's mouth...

Finally!

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I don't have any personal experience with the nut yogurt. Others

have and

> have seen good results. Hopefully they will chime in.

>

> If I recall correctly you started with 1 teaspoon of yogurt. The

usual

> amount we recommend is 1/4 teaspoon (especially for those who

have had

> problems with dairy in the past). If you decide to try yogurt

again (nut,

> goat, cow or camel) please start with the small amount first and

slowly

> increase skipping a day or two in between. The die-off with

yogurt can be

> pretty powerful and that's why we recommend the slow start for

some. The

> fingers in mouth may be part of die-off but is hard to say

without more

> information.

>

> Did both of your boys doing the fingers in mouth. Did you see

any positive

> reactions? Did they have any change in bm's, change in

behaviours (good or

> bad)?

>

> Sheila UC, 20 years -- in remission after 38 mos SCD

> mom of SCD 23 mos

>

>

> > Thank you for sending me your message. I decided to stop the

goat

> > yogurt after I noticed that one of them was putting his fingers

in

> > his mouth. I knew the only new thing that I had given them was

the

> > goat yogurt. They are not having any yogurt for now. And the

> > curious thing is that has stopped doing it.

> >

> > A friend told me to start giving them nut yogurt. Do you think

that

> > it will be a good idea? My boys have been on the SCD since

February

> > 17/04.

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hola ,

That's wonderful!!! Sounds like the diet is helping a lot. We

are not seeing much changes for our son in language and behavior.

We have been giving the beet puree to ease the constipation but

still get the marble sized poops but softer. Someone on another

list mentioned that beet juice reduces the acid in the stomach which

doesn't allow for the digestion of minerals or proteins. Now the

beet puree is a big concern since it he needs to be digesting and

assimilating both the minerals and proteins. Our son's urine is

pink from the beets which is a sign that there isn't enough acid in

the stomach according to this person. So now what?? I did finally

get my juicer a few days before Easter, so I am giving him some

fresh juiced Pear juice (at lunch time instead of the OJ/Prune

juice) but have not seen improvements in the stool yet. I'll keep

plugging away at this. Thanks for the update on and

Simon. How are you going to make the coconut yogurt?? Do you use

the milk inside the coconut or do you grate the meal on the inside

of the coconut and add water to that to make coconut milk and then

do the yogurt with that? Let me know when you have the time. Take

care, Becky in Chesapeake, VA

> > Hi ,

> >

> > I don't have any personal experience with the nut yogurt.

Others

> have and

> > have seen good results. Hopefully they will chime in.

> >

> > If I recall correctly you started with 1 teaspoon of yogurt.

The

> usual

> > amount we recommend is 1/4 teaspoon (especially for those who

have

> had

> > problems with dairy in the past). If you decide to try yogurt

> again (nut,

> > goat, cow or camel) please start with the small amount first and

> slowly

> > increase skipping a day or two in between. The die-off with

yogurt

> can be

> > pretty powerful and that's why we recommend the slow start for

> some. The

> > fingers in mouth may be part of die-off but is hard to say

without

> more

> > information.

> >

> > Did both of your boys doing the fingers in mouth. Did you see

any

> positive

> > reactions? Did they have any change in bm's, change in

behaviours

> (good or

> > bad)?

> >

> > Sheila UC, 20 years -- in remission after 38 mos SCD

> > mom of SCD 23 mos

> >

> >

> > > Thank you for sending me your message. I decided to stop the

goat

> > > yogurt after I noticed that one of them was putting his

fingers in

> > > his mouth. I knew the only new thing that I had given them

was

> the

> > > goat yogurt. They are not having any yogurt for now. And the

> > > curious thing is that has stopped doing it.

> > >

> > > A friend told me to start giving them nut yogurt. Do you

think

> that

> > > it will be a good idea? My boys have been on the SCD since

> February

> > > 17/04.