Re: Confused about pregnancy/nursing & SCD

April 21, 2004

" how is it that my son would start reacting to gluten in my diet at

3 months of age? Is that really old enough to get a yeast

problem bad enough to cause damage? How did he get that

way? Did the problem actually start before he was born? Is it

that I had a yeast problem and spread it to him? "

This whole issue has plagued me with questions for ages. It

has been discussed on other autism lists as well. I don't think

anyone has come up with " the answer " yet.

My youger son was treated with Diflucan for the first time at age 4

weeks for thrush. He had yeast diaper rashes from infancy

through the age he was potty trained.

He was delivered C-section so it could not have been exposure

to yeast via vaginal delivery.... I bottle fed him so it wasn't yeast

from nursing (if that is even possible).

I think something is mixed up in these kids so that their own

bodies don't know " friend " from " foe " . The yeast is overgrown so

young in life that their poor little bodies don't even know that the

yeast isn't supposed to be as prolific as it is.

Just my unscientific thoughts.

I sure hope someone figures it all out and we can prevent

*whatever* it is from happening to more babies.

Jody

mom to -5 and -

SCD 15 months

April 21, 2004

I have also heard that celiac was genetic and an autoimmune disorder

but I have my doubts. They say autism is genetic but how can a

condition that is genetic become an epidemic? The same people that

say celiac is genetic are the same ones that say it is for life and

you simply need to take gluten out of the diet but we all know

better. For this reason I am sceptical that the " experts " don't

really know what they are talking about.

> Hi ,

>

> I'm no scientist, but as I understand it Celiac Disease is not

caused by

> a yeast overgrowth, although I'm sure that is often a part of the

damage

> it does. I've read that Celiac Disease is an autoimmune disorder.

April 21, 2004

I believe my Celiac Disease was caused by a serious crash of my Immune System

as well as aging, anti biotic, steroid and pneumonia all coming sequentially

in a three month period and following an 86 pound weight loss. My mental

abilities

remained untouched. My ability to use a keyboard without spell checking did

seem affected:-) And now back to SCD for autism.

On Wednesday, April 21, 2004, at 03:26 PM, cubicmonica wrote:

> I have also heard that celiac was genetic and an autoimmune disorder

> but I have my doubts.

Carol F.

---------

Toronto , Celiac SCD 2 3/4 years

There is no substitute for the right food!

April 22, 2004

" I have also heard that celiac was genetic and an autoimmune

disorder

but I have my doubts. They say autism is genetic but how can a

condition that is genetic become an epidemic? The same people that

say celiac is genetic are the same ones that say it is for life and

you simply need to take gluten out of the diet but we all know

better. For this reason I am sceptical that the " experts " don't

really know what they are talking about. "

Hi ,

......but in the celiac 'case', it's true. One of my son's teachers is

severely celiac, she inherited it from her dad. It does run in the

family. Be aware that diagnosing celiac disease has only started in

the last century (by Dicke, Weijers and Van der Kamer in about 1954),

after a couple of Dutch scientists discovered it.

So grandma may have been celiac all her life, but never knowing it

and enduring it, always tired...

Marjan

Netherlands

I do understand you sceptic view of all this neurological and genetic

searching...while in the meantime these kids are literally starving.

April 22, 2004

When I sent this post I was thinking about helping someone else but

last night I came to realize I have all the symptoms of pregnancy

myself. I am late, tired all the time, am constantly hungry but the

idea of food makes me sick. My last pregnancy I had a miscarriage in

the second trimester and I have felt since then that I am too old and

metal toxic to carry a healthy baby full-term. In my heart I don't

feel this baby will make it but I have a duty to try my best to give

him or her a chance.

As I was pondering what to do about eating for the first trimester I

realized something. In my past 5 pregnancies, the only food I have

been able to get down is - you guessed it, illegals. Bread,

potatoes, pasta and milk was always my first trimester diet. If

yeast does actually pass on to the baby, no wonder I have kids with

GI issues. Now I am trying to figure out how I will survive. For

the last two days I have been constantly hungry and no food I have

been able to get down satisfies it. I could barely sleep last night

from the intense hunger pains. A little while ago I broke down and

had it. I got a package of cookies from a vending machine downstairs

from my office. Within minutes my hunger stopped - just from one

tiny cookie. Is the yeast ruling my tummy or what? I have been SCD

for 4 1/2 months only in support of my younger two kids, not for GI

issues.

So here is my question. Does anyone have any good advise for me? In

the past I soothed a hungry stomach with milk and morning nasea with

saltine crackers. What can I eat that is SCD legal to accomplish the

same thing?

> I have been thinking about the whole issue of if a mom should be

SCD

> while nursing or pregnant. I understand taking food out of mom's

> diet in the case of allergens. I have personally experienced how

my

> celiac son reacted to gluten when I was nursing. What I don't

> understand is a few things.

> First, since celiac is supposed to be caused by yeast overgrowth,

how

> is it that my son would start reacting to gluten in my diet at 3

> months of age? Is that really old enough to get a yeast problem

bad

> enough to cause damage? How did he get that way? Did the problem

> actually start before he was born? Is it that I had a yeast

problem

> and spread it to him?

> Second, why would a mom need to be SCD to prevent a yeast problem

in

> the baby since it is unproperly digested food that feeds yeast. Is

> this food passed to the baby unproperly digested to feed yeast in

the

> baby or is it that it causes a yeast overgrowth in mom and that

yeast

> is passed on to the baby in the milk?

> I hope I have made sense. This has been bugging me for a while.

>

April 22, 2004

Have you taken a pregnancy test?

On Thursday, April 22, 2004, at 03:21 PM, cubicmonica wrote:

> When I sent this post I was thinking about helping someone else but

> last night I came to realize I have all the symptoms of pregnancy

> myself.

Carol F.

---------

Toronto , Celiac SCD 2 3/4 years

There is no substitute for the right food!

April 22, 2004

No. I have no car right now so getting to a store is a real hassle.

I probably won't be able to get one until the weekend so in the

meantime I am just trying to survive how terrible I feel. This would

be my 6th pregnancy and I have not been mistaken yet so in my mind it

is pretty likely. I also have no insurance which makes matters worse.

> Have you taken a pregnancy test?

April 22, 2004

Hi again, ,

I'm pregnant right now, nearly done, and I started SCD during my second

trimester. I wasn't nauseated, but I was terribly hungry, craving food all the

time. Turns out I was actually starting to develop gestational diabetes. I was

eating junk constantly and gaining too much weight. After I started SCD the

weight gain slowed down and my blood sugar has been normal whenever I've tested

it, so I feel good about the baby's health. Lately the cravings have been bad

again and I've been cheating and I don't feel as healthy. I'm going to try to

get back on track again. Your post really helps me to see that I should do that.

Thank you.

I've found a couple things have really been life-savers for me in my diet. One

is SCD legal yogurt made of half and half. I'm getting bad heartburn now, and

the yogurt really helps with that. If milk helped your nausea in the past, the

yogurt might help now. And because it's really high fat, it is filling.

Scrambled eggs (or however you like them, if you do) have also been great for

me, and I ordered almond flour and make myself almond flour muffins regularly to

eat for breakfast. I find them very easy on my stomach, too. Since I found out

about the blood sugar, I don't put any honey in them, but I do usually add some

fruit, like frozen bananas. Or you can make them with cheese and herbs and

they're delicious. That might be the best way to go if you're trying to control

yeast. You just use a cup of grated cheese, no honey, and the rest of the recipe

is the same.

The first trimester of pregnancy was very depressing for me. Sounds like you're

feeling the same. I hope you feel better soon. I'll be praying for you.

Best,

Rosemary

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