Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 I am also new, I don't have any experience with sweeteners... except I use a little tablet of saccharine in my black coffee. My son is just taking honey or fruitsauce as sweetener. As far as fruit juice, I read here somewhere that the only legal ones are Welsch white and red grape juice, because there is no guarantee that the other brands do not add corn syrup on occasions... Good luck!!! Coral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Hi Mariko, Welcome to the group. Do you give your daughter fruitsauce (like pear or mango, apple, etc.) I always mix supplements in some of that and it does fine. Kirkman's syrup is illegal. Go the www.pecanbread.com for a lot of info. Check under supplements and it shows all of Kirkman's legal and illegal products. You can use saccharin or I think stevia as a sweetener. Also go to www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and go the legal/illegal list and it shows everything from A-Z. There are a lot of store brand juices that are legal. Welch's white and grape juice in the bottles, Dole Pineapple, Tomato juice, Knudsen Just Juices, and I also give the juice from boiled fruit and it's pretty good. Good luck, check at the pecanbread website for a lot of intro. advice as well. Kathy, mom of Abby-9, ASD, UC and SCD since 2-21-04 I am new. please help! > Hi, everyone, > > I am very new to SCD. Please help me get started! > > My child cannot swallow capsules just yet. She has to chew on them. > So I must sweeten with something. That's why I used to make mock > yogurt with tapioca and stevia before SCD, modified from Karyn > Serrousi's ersatz yogurt. NOw that it is illegal, I need alternative > sweetener. The catch is my child has IgG reactions to honey. I have > been using vegetable glycerin. Her diet has been very low in refined > sugar. I only used stevia and glycerin exclusively. Is Kirkman's > syrup legal? That has sucralose, which they claim does not feed > bacteria. > > I had not given my child any fruit juice for the last 20 months. > However, I started with white and dark grape juice with gelatin as a > part of intro diet. I just have a nagging question, though. Has > anybody checked which juice brands, national or store-brands, are > legal? > > Thanks for your help! > > > Mariko Reynolds > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Welcome to the list Mariko, > My child cannot swallow capsules just yet. She has to chew on them. > So I must sweeten with something. That's why I used to make mock > yogurt with tapioca and stevia before SCD, modified from Karyn > Serrousi's ersatz yogurt. NOw that it is illegal, I need alternative > sweetener. I think some put there children meds supplements in applesauce, pearsauce, homemade juice flavoured gelatin to mask the flavours. If they are crushable you may be able to put them in some diluted juices also. >The catch is my child has IgG reactions to honey. I have > been using vegetable glycerin. Many people with food sensitivites find that after some time on the diet- after the gut has healed some, they lose their food sensitivities. This is not the case with anaphylactic reactions. Glycerin as a supplement ingredient is okay but is not recommended in larger quantities as a sweetener. Here is what Elaine wrote previously on glycerin , " Now that I realize where you folks are using the glycerin (instead of honey), if you are not making sufficient progress and are using glycerin freely, please experiment with it by cutting it out and using something else like sucaryl or saccharin (even if they are not absolutley Kosher) I am concerned about glycerol. I know what it is and although it ends in " ol " it is not a sugar alcohol (which would cause diarrhea) but I still don't know how it will affect the gut. " Her diet has been very low in refined > sugar. I only used stevia and glycerin exclusively. Is Kirkman's > syrup legal? That has sucralose, which they claim does not feed > bacteria. Sucralose is not legal so I guess that eliminates the Kirkman's syrup. Stevia is also not recoommended for SCD please see http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/stevia.htm > > I had not given my child any fruit juice for the last 20 months. > However, I started with white and dark grape juice with gelatin as a > part of intro diet. I just have a nagging question, though. Has > anybody checked which juice brands, national or store-brands, are > legal? Tropicana pure orange juice, Welch's 100% grape juice, tomato juice ('s and Heinz) have all been given the thumbs up. There may be more but my brain is connecting today. Hope this helps you get started. Sheila UC, 20 years -- in remission after 38 mos SCD mom of SCD 23 mos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Hi Mariko and welcome! Saccharin is a legal sweetener and I believe stevia is okay, if you absolutely cannot tolerate honey. Welch's Grape Juice in the bottle is legal (both light and dark). I do not know much about supplements, but I believe the Kirkman's Syrup is illegal. If you have any other supplements you are not sure of, visit www.pecanbread.com and there is an entire page dealing with legal/illegal supplements. There is tons of information on the website, with great recipes. Gia Mom to Jack-5 and -2 SCD 9 mos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 > Hi Mariko and welcome! > I believe stevia is okay, if you > absolutely cannot tolerate honey. From Elaine's web site The Legal / Illegal list O to S ....Stevia Illegal It's molecular structure resembles a steroid and the effects are unknown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2004 Report Share Posted April 14, 2004 Hi, everyone, I am very new to SCD. Please help me get started! My child cannot swallow capsules just yet. She has to chew on them. So I must sweeten with something. That's why I used to make mock yogurt with tapioca and stevia before SCD, modified from Karyn Serrousi's ersatz yogurt. NOw that it is illegal, I need alternative sweetener. The catch is my child has IgG reactions to honey. I have been using vegetable glycerin. Her diet has been very low in refined sugar. I only used stevia and glycerin exclusively. Is Kirkman's syrup legal? That has sucralose, which they claim does not feed bacteria. I had not given my child any fruit juice for the last 20 months. However, I started with white and dark grape juice with gelatin as a part of intro diet. I just have a nagging question, though. Has anybody checked which juice brands, national or store-brands, are legal? Thanks for your help! Mariko Reynolds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2004 Report Share Posted April 14, 2004 -Hello Mariko, welcome to the list! Glycerin is legal. On Stevia I read a post a while back that mentioned that there was a concern for adults due to its chemical composition similar to an steroid, but that Elaine had said that for ASD children in small quantities it would be OK. For a list of legals/illegals you can check www.scdiet.info and/or www.pecanbread.com . This second one has even a list of legal kirkmans supplements. For juice brands, just refer back to the BTVC (the book) Good luck , mom to almost 5 ASD and 2NT gut issues, SCD 5months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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