update on Kenzie; would like input

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We have just finished six months on the diet. Started out the diet with

anything that was legal.He ate so much fruit that he developed Candida. I

treated him for that. The probiotics from CP seemed to cause a problem so I

quit that. On 2/22 we decided to do the intro. For three weeks all he ate was

chicken, bananas and white grape juice. We switched the grape juice to

pineapple juice. I have always been concerned about the phenols in the bananas.

He takes No-Fenol with them. Last week I decided to try to add back in a raw

fruit. I decided on pear thinking that would be the least of all evils. Well

he loved them and sure enough, he got loose stools again. The only thing that

has changed from being on the diet is his stools. I know that is a biggie

because hopefully he's absorbing more foods and supplements. He very seldom

ever has hard stools. They're usually soft but formed and always an orange

color.

He's now eating chicken, steak, meat sauce with (tomato juice, burger, carrots,

onions, celery and red peppers), peas, cooked carrots, bananas, pear sauce for

taking his supplements, pork rinds at school only, and a cookie made with cashew

nut butter, one banana, eggs and baking soda. That's his diet now. I wish I

could add raw fruits because he would love them. Yesterday for the first time

he grabbed some baby carrots and ate four of them. I was expecting to see a

problem with them but didn't. Two days ago I added back in 1/2 of the small

scoop of CP. Last night I made yogurt and hope to introduce it tomorrow.

He has not made any speech gains. He is still quite hyper. He stills does the

aggressive little stims. I think this diet is good for him and I'm sure I will

continue. I'm just wondering what I could do to see any of the great gains many

of you are seeing. Is it still too soon and does he need much more time to

heal? I'm just disappointed that so far this hasn't been the great answer that

I thought he would be.

I would appreciate any thoughts you may have.

Thanks

Penny

Kenzie 7 y.o. ASD

SCD going into 7 months

[Guest guest]

update on Kenzie; would like input

> We have just finished six months on the diet. Started out the diet with

anything that was legal.He ate so much fruit that he developed Candida. I

treated him for that. The probiotics from CP seemed to cause a problem so I

quit that. On 2/22 we decided to do the intro. For three weeks all he ate

was chicken, bananas and white grape juice. We switched the grape juice to

pineapple juice. I have always been concerned about the phenols in the

bananas. He takes No-Fenol with them. Last week I decided to try to add

back in a raw fruit. I decided on pear thinking that would be the least of

all evils. Well he loved them and sure enough, he got loose stools again.

The only thing that has changed from being on the diet is his stools. I

know that is a biggie because hopefully he's absorbing more foods and

supplements. He very seldom ever has hard stools. They're usually soft but

formed and always an orange color.

>

> He's now eating chicken, steak, meat sauce with (tomato juice, burger,

carrots, onions, celery and red peppers), peas, cooked carrots, bananas,

pear sauce for taking his supplements, pork rinds at school only, and a

cookie made with cashew nut butter, one banana, eggs and baking soda.

That's his diet now. I wish I could add raw fruits because he would love

them. Yesterday for the first time he grabbed some baby carrots and ate

four of them. I was expecting to see a problem with them but didn't. Two

days ago I added back in 1/2 of the small scoop of CP. Last night I made

yogurt and hope to introduce it tomorrow.

>

> He has not made any speech gains. He is still quite hyper. He stills

does the aggressive little stims. I think this diet is good for him and

I'm sure I will continue. I'm just wondering what I could do to see any of

the great gains many of you are seeing. Is it still too soon and does he

need much more time to heal? I'm just disappointed that so far this hasn't

been the great answer that I thought he would be.

>

> I would appreciate any thoughts you may have.

>

> Thanks

> Penny

> Kenzie 7 y.o. ASD

> SCD going into 7 months

>

>

[Guest guest]

> He has not made any speech gains. He is still quite hyper. He stills

does the aggressive little stims. I think this diet is good for him and

I'm sure I will continue. I'm just wondering what I could do to see any of

the great gains many of you are seeing. Is it still too soon and does he

need much more time to heal? I'm just disappointed that so far this hasn't

been the great answer that I thought he would be.

>

>Penny,

I have read most of your posts and your journey w/ Kenzie on this diet and

know of your setbacks, infractions,etc. Like many of us, making alot of

mistakes in the beginning and, if you stop and look at the time Kenzie has

been 100% SCD legal it probably hasn't been that long. I think you should

be very proud of what you've done with his diet, look at what he's eating

now!! Fabulous :-) I also want you to know that we have not seen the gains

that many have seen from using SCD and to know that you aren't alone. Zach

is doing very well, but on the whole not because of SCD. I am now looking at

other dietary options for him because I believe he falls into the category

of putrefaction/deficiency dysbiosis and not fermentation (i.e. yeasty kids)

dysbiosis. I know Kenzie has had problems w/ yeast and, because of the

infractions he's had on and off for the time he's been SCD and his age, it

probably will take longer to see gains. Or, SCD will help heal his gut, in

time, so that other supplements, etc can help him reach those next

milestones when maybe they weren't able to work before. Waiting and

watching is one of the hardest parts of this journey.

I hope with the upcoming DAN and Autism One conferences and SCD being

brought in as a more mainstream diet for ASD kids, some of the good docs

will be able to advise parents on the reasons why SCD may or may not work

for their child and other options to try after this point. SCD is such a

wonderful diet for so many kids, but not for all. Or just in a very subtle

way. If all you get is good poop, that is enough to keep going in my book

:-)

Good luck,

Thea, Zach's mom, 37 months, SCD 8 months

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" He's now eating chicken, steak, meat sauce with (tomato juice,

burger, carrots, onions, celery and red peppers), peas, cooked

carrots, bananas, pear sauce for taking his supplements, pork rinds

at school only, and a cookie made with cashew nut butter, one

banana, eggs and baking soda. "

PENNY! PENNY! PENNY!

Can't you see how far you've come? Isn't this the kid who would

only eat pork rinds?

In a few weeks of strict SCD, you've broadened his food choices

enormously. He eats more variety than does after more than a

year.

I'm very interested to see how the yogurt goes for you.

Sue (From Pickering)

Mom to , 4.5, formerly? ASD, SCD since March 16/03