RE: carbohydrate consumption levels

[Guest guest]

last year I was in the hospital for DKA, after my pump malfunctioned. the

dietician came and gave me a carb load of 250 grams per day, 70 per meal and 40

for a snack before bed. when i followed up at the diabetic education center,

they said that the lload was too low. Not quite sure about any of this.

lab test results 10-17-2007

>

> Homocysteine 15.5

> CRP " normal " , no numbers given

> Total cholesterol 189

> LDL 117

> HDL 60

> triglycerides 60

> Liver test " satisfactory " whatever that is

> A1C 5.1

>

>

[Guest guest]

It would be advisable for you to be sure about your carb consumption. If you

are a diabetic, 240 grams of carbs per day is definitely too many in my opinion.

If you dose adequate amounts of insulin to deal with these many carbs, it would

appear to me that you are just getting fatter and fatter. Remember insulin is

the storage hormone. It converts excess grams of carbs into fat. Only you

should know for sure.

lab test results 10-17-2007

>

> Homocysteine 15.5

> CRP " normal " , no numbers given

> Total cholesterol 189

> LDL 117

> HDL 60

> triglycerides 60

> Liver test " satisfactory " whatever that is

> A1C 5.1

>

>

[Guest guest]

If a typical slice of bread is around 15 grams, then that 240 grams would equate

to around 16 slices of bread per day! Wouch!!

Dave

lab test results 10-17-2007

>

> Homocysteine 15.5

> CRP " normal " , no numbers given

> Total cholesterol 189

> LDL 117

> HDL 60

> triglycerides 60

> Liver test " satisfactory " whatever that is

> A1C 5.1

>

>

[Guest guest]

Do you think they are including converted foods, i.e. even fruits and vegetables

which are converted into carbohydrates? Do they specifically say breads or

other similar starches?

Dave

lab test results 10-17-2007

>

> Homocysteine 15.5

> CRP " normal " , no numbers given

> Total cholesterol 189

> LDL 117

> HDL 60

> triglycerides 60

> Liver test " satisfactory " whatever that is

> A1C 5.1

>

>

[Guest guest]

no, they include fruits, and veggies, milk, dairy, and even protein after it's

been digested for a while.

lab test results 10-17-2007

>

> Homocysteine 15.5

> CRP " normal " , no numbers given

> Total cholesterol 189

> LDL 117

> HDL 60

> triglycerides 60

> Liver test " satisfactory " whatever that is

> A1C 5.1

>

>

[Guest guest]

" Carbs " refer to any foods with carbohydrates -- at least that's the way it

works in Canada. So if someone eats 250 grams of carbs a day, that includes

breads, fruits and veggies, dairy products, etc. Basically all the food they

eat except meats and cheeses.

Jen

Re: carbohydrate consumption levels

> Do you think they are including converted foods, i.e. even fruits and

> vegetables which are converted into carbohydrates? Do they specifically

> say breads or other similar starches?

>

> Dave

[Guest guest]

,

Most of us on this list try to eat less than 90 grams per day. 240

grams is an exorbitant amount of carbs. It would take a huge amount of

insulin to keep up with that many carbs-unless you exercise a whole heck

of a lot!

Re: carbohydrate consumption levels

last year I was in the hospital for DKA, after my pump malfunctioned.

the dietician came and gave me a carb load of 250 grams per day, 70 per

meal and 40 for a snack before bed. when i followed up at the diabetic

education center, they said that the lload was too low. Not quite sure

about any of this.

lab test results 10-17-2007

>

> Homocysteine 15.5

> CRP " normal " , no numbers given

> Total cholesterol 189

> LDL 117

> HDL 60

> triglycerides 60

> Liver test " satisfactory " whatever that is

> A1C 5.1

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I will beat Harry to the punch line.

Small doses, small mistakes, large doses, large mistakes.T

The more insulin you have to use the greater the consequences should you

make a mis calculation on how may doses it takes to counteract a given

number of consumed carbs.

Since most on this list seem to feel that about 30 carbs per meal is a good

plenty the 240 carbs per day sure seems like heresy.

Me thinks you need another opinion my friend.

Cy, the Ancient Okie...

_____

From: blind-diabetics

[mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of LaFrance-Wolf

Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:24 AM

To: blind-diabetics

Subject: RE: carbohydrate consumption levels

,

Most of us on this list try to eat less than 90 grams per day. 240

grams is an exorbitant amount of carbs. It would take a huge amount of

insulin to keep up with that many carbs-unless you exercise a whole heck

of a lot!

Re: carbohydrate consumption levels

last year I was in the hospital for DKA, after my pump malfunctioned.

the dietician came and gave me a carb load of 250 grams per day, 70 per

meal and 40 for a snack before bed. when i followed up at the diabetic

education center, they said that the lload was too low. Not quite sure

about any of this.

lab test results 10-17-2007

>

> Homocysteine 15.5

> CRP " normal " , no numbers given

> Total cholesterol 189

> LDL 117

> HDL 60

> triglycerides 60

> Liver test " satisfactory " whatever that is

> A1C 5.1

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, it sure sounds like carb counting in Canada works just like it does here

in the United States. (LOL)

Now, where a lot of confusion seems to arise is the concept of *no sugar

added*.

Fruit would be an excellent example. While there may not be any added sugar

the fructose *does* constitute a certain amount of carbohydrates.

While the processed sugar is bad news for a Diabetic the natural sugars,

while they may be metabolized slower, still add to the daily carb count.

Another great area of confusion is the word *Dietetic*. It does *not* in any

way relate to *Diabetic*.

Just keep on adding up the *total* number of carbs you ingest and you will

be doing fine. Ignore the *net* carbs as they are, for all practical

purposes, a meaningless term.

Cy, the Ancient Okie...

_____

From: blind-diabetics

[mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Jesso

Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:01 AM

To: blind-diabetics

Subject: Re: carbohydrate consumption levels

" Carbs " refer to any foods with carbohydrates -- at least that's the way it

works in Canada. So if someone eats 250 grams of carbs a day, that includes

breads, fruits and veggies, dairy products, etc. Basically all the food they

eat except meats and cheeses.

Jen

Re: carbohydrate consumption levels

> Do you think they are including converted foods, i.e. even fruits and

> vegetables which are converted into carbohydrates? Do they specifically

> say breads or other similar starches?

>

> Dave

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