Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 I forgot to mention some of the drawbacks associated with fat transfers, which can be found at this site: http://www.cellport.jp/english/bust/ "Besides the CAL tissue augmentation procedure, there are some other breast augmentation procedures which use an autologous fat transplantation method. However, those procedures are said to have the following problems. Since transplanted fat is absorbed into the body a few months after the transplantation, the efficiency of breast augmentation is low. A lump (fibrosis, calcification) is often felt, because fat is transplanted "in a clump". In many cases, necrosis of transplanted fat is reported due to the lack of blood supply, resulting in formation of cysts, fibrosis or calcification. CAL tissue augmentation procedure is a safe breast augmentation procedure with high efficiency, which has overcome all the problems stated above." Pattylisatucholski <lisatucholski@...> wrote: If they can transfer fat to give more fluff, why cant they just use this procedure for enhancememnt rather then implants? Wouldnt it be 100% safe and give the same results?> > > > >> > > > > Cherie,> > > > > > > > > > Dr. Huang is very reasonable, compared to some docs! . . . > > > > > > > > > > Mine was $12,000 in 1994.> > > > > > > > > > Rogene> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 That is incredible. I cant help but wonder though after all this what new finding may come out years from now on the fat transfer procedure. Im not trying ot be negative but after the whole implant sitaution and everything else i have learned from this site i tend to look at potential problems years in advance now. It really is a great concept though. > > > > > >Hi Cherie, > > > > > Im glad to hear that you have everything scheduled and are on > >your > > > > > way to healing . Did the doc say what it was so expensive? I > >was > > > > > just curious? Are you just having en bloc or are there other > >issues > > > > > as well? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rogene, > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow, sorry to hear you paid that in 1994, thats what I am > >being > > > > > charged > > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cherie > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <mailto: % 40> , > > Rogene <saxony01@> > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cherie, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Huang is very reasonable, compared to some > >docs! . . . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mine was $12,000 in 1994. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rogene > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Oh ok. Wow you girls are really on top of all of this stuff! > > > > > > > > > > > > Cherie, > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Huang is very reasonable, compared to some > docs! . . . > > > > > > > > > > > > Mine was $12,000 in 1994. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rogene > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 , Fat transfers have come a long way in the last few years. Most have some stem cells mixed in and it helps them to stay and grow. They have been pretty controversial, but they are the coming thing, as they are now approved in Japan and in Europe, and the procedure with the stem cells will soon be approved here. As you can see from Lynn's pics on shutterfly, they helped her to have more breast tissue and she looks great. I think the future is fat transfers. Right now they are better than they were 5-10 years ago and they will get better still. Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Incredible . . . These women look beautifully natural - instead of cartoonish! Let's pray this procedure will be the answer to stopping the breast implant scandal! Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Linny, You can probably avoid a lift if you have the right surgeon. I know Dr. Huang things most women can get by without a lift. She does do some interior work sometimes to make that possible, I think. I think some docs always think you need a lift, but I know often the best ones do not agree. Lynda At 12:30 PM 9/18/2007, you wrote: >I continue to be amazed by this journey of learning each day! Ok, >now I'm full of new questions. Until yesterday, I didn't realize >that I could get a fat transfer if I want to retain any appearance >of having breasts... is this procedure safe? Won't my body possibly >fight this? Secondly, if I had a lift when my implants were put in, >do you think I'll need a lift when I get them explanted? My implant >surgery was quite involved because I had tubular and very assymetric >breasts. The surgeon said I was his toughest case ever (lots of >trust in him after hearing that...) It took 3.5 hrs on the table >for him to tear my left muscle away and make a an evelope for a >modest 350cc envelope, then lift me as well. I'm hoping that I can >get an en bloc explant with no lift or additional work needed to look " human. " >Linny > > >Be a better Globetrotter. ><http://us.rd./evt=48254/*http://answers./dir/_ylc=X3oDMTI5MG\ x2aThyBF9TAzIxMTU1MDAzNTIEX3MDMzk2NTQ1MTAzBHNlYwNCQUJwaWxsYXJfTklfMzYwBHNsawNQcm\ 9kdWN0X3F1ZXN0aW9uX3BhZ2U-?link=list & sid=396545469>Get >better travel answers from someone who knows. > Answers - Check it out. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Dr Huang studied under the current guru of breast fat transfers.... you can see the long term results at his web site: http://www.lipostructure.com/ The long term results look good although as with anything I'm sure they can vary. > > Incredible . . . > > These women look beautifully natural - instead of cartoonish! > > Let's pray this procedure will be the answer to stopping the breast implant scandal! > > Rogene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Thanks Dede, Every day is a little easier. The hardest part is convincing my 2 labs that I can't take them to the dog park in the morning as I always do.... But we are working through that. I rented a movie and made myself sit and watch it today without getting up to do " laundry, dishes " etc. It was a comedy though and it hurt to laugh... oh well.... Thanks for your well wishes. I hope you are feeling ok. > > ~ > Your body has been thru a major surgery. > Actually 2 major surgerys. It is very important > to rest so you can heal well. Getting some > sunshine , and taking walks is ok, but much more > is too much. It takes awhile to heal from the > inside, so let your intuition be your guide...... > Drink lots and lots of water to help filter out > all the toxins. You got lots in your anesthesia. > I have one of my anesthesia reports, and I was > amazed at all the drugs they give. > I am so glad you are doing well. Please get lots > of rest though ! > Hugs N Prayers ! Dede > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 I know it is early yet and Dr Huang said they will maybe get larger, then smaller then larger until things settle. I'll post some photos of pre explant and now with fat transfers... don't get worried about all the pretty colors by breasts are now though from the bruising. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cherie, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Huang is very reasonable, compared to some > > > > > docs! . . . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mine was $12,000 in 1994. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rogene > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not > > > >web links. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><<http://us.rd./evt=48250/*http://searchmarketing..co > > m/arp/sponsoredsearch_v9.php?o=US2226 & cmp= & ctv=AprNI & s=Y & s2=EM & b=50>http://\ us.rd./evt=48250/*http://searchmarketing./arp/sponsoredsearch_\ v9.php?o=US2226 & cmp= & ctv=AprNI & s=Y & s2=EM & b=50>Pinpoint > > > > >customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > > > > > > > >Building a website is a piece of cake. > > Small Business gives you > ><http://us.rd./evt=48251/*http://smallbusiness./webhosting/?p\ =PASSPORTPLUS>all > >the tools to get online. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 That's exactly how I felt when I was shopping for the right surgeon to remove my implants. I wanted it done right the first time, and I was willing to pay for the best. I'm usually a bargain shopper but when not when it came to this. I finally just paid off the charge card for the original implant surgery, 2.5 years later and the implants that have been in the garbadge for the last 2 years are finally paid for. Sis > > > > > > > > Cherie, > > > > > > > > Dr. Huang is very reasonable, compared to some docs! . . . > > > > > > > > Mine was $12,000 in 1994. > > > > > > > > Rogene > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Linny, Other than the possiblity that the fat will be absorbed, there is a possiblity of infection, etc. . . Dr. Huang can better tell you what the downsides MAY be. . . The person to best tell you what you'll need is the plastic surgeon you chose. You may not need anything other than explant and, possibly another lift. If you'll contact the surgeons you're considering, and in the case of the surgeons we recommend, send them a photo, they may be able to tell you what needs to be done without seeing you. Most women "fluff" in the months following explant. . . They won't know what they'll look like for up to a year. Hugs, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Thank you Lynda. I agree. I am very happy I got the fat transfers, I can't imagine what I would have looked like without them. Plus, it was less invasive than a lift (for me - as I scar so horribly with keloids). Lynn Re: Re: Surgery scheduled ,Fat transfers have come a long way in the last few years. Most have some stem cells mixed in and it helps them to stay and grow. They have been pretty controversial, but they are the coming thing, as they are now approved in Japan and in Europe, and the procedure with the stem cells will soon be approved here.As you can see from Lynn's pics on shutterfly, they helped her to have more breast tissue and she looks great.I think the future is fat transfers. Right now they are better than they were 5-10 years ago and they will get better still.Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Just going to pop in here. My fat transfer was only around $700 and a lift would have been a few thousands. Cherie... Dr. Huang will give you info on the transfers which will tell you about the drawbacks. The only one that stood out for me is the fact that you may need to have an MRI instead of a mammogram - if the fat creates a lump. I know I am not saying this correctly, but in other words the fat may clump together and on a mammo show the need for further testing -- again it is an if. So, I had to weigh the benefits with the drawbacks. I am lucky to have insurance and so if I had to have an MRI, I would be okay with that. But I knew I wouldn't have much left after explant in the way of breast size. So anything to give me better results, which Dr. Huang suggested, was the way to go. Plus, an added benefit was that is sucks your unwanted fat out of places such as love handles, gut, inbetween your thighs (whereever she can get it from) - although, it was more painful than the explant itself. Hugs, Lynn Re: Re: Surgery scheduled Lynda, I don't think anyone is trying to scare Cherie about her procedure at all. I just think that women should understand there are drawbacks, just as there were drawbacks that we weren't clear about with implants, and that those drawbacks need to be considered. What I don't want to have happen is to have women think that spending several thousand dollars on a fat transfer procedure is going to replace their implants, especially if this is a financial hardship. I'm all about common sense....and letting the woman decide with the help of her surgeon, given she has all of the information she needs. Patty Lynda Roth <cossprivatei (DOT) com> wrote: Cherie,I would ask the doctor about the success rate for this surgery. She would be the one who knows the procedure and the success rate the best. Ask her about complications. Any of us are not nearly as qualified to answer these questions as she would be. Scaring you about your procedure is probably not a good thing for any of us to be doing.LyndaAt 09:33 AM 9/18/2007, you wrote:>Patty.>>Thanks for this info! I make to sure that I have this right, should>I be asking Dr. Huang if she does the CAL tissue augmentation>procedure? If she does not, should I reconsider the fat transfers?>>Thanks for your help!>Cherie>>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Cherie,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dr. Huang is very reasonable, compared to some> > docs! . . .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Mine was $12,000 in 1994.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Rogene> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not>web links.> >>> Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Lynn, Thanks for the info! Her physicians assistant emailed me today and basicly said the same thing you did. I do have ins, a good one, so if I need an MRI they would cover it. They do not know that I have implants nor that I am having them removed. Thanks! Cherie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cherie, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Huang is very reasonable, compared to some > > > docs! . . . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mine was $12,000 in 1994. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rogene > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not > >web links. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Linny, I thought I would need a lift for sure, but I was lucky and I did not. Dr. Huang was able to use my own fat and transfer to my breasts. You can see my photos on shutterfly. I am VERY VERY VERY pleased with my results, my breasts are so super soft and they are at least a handful Plus, my little bit of love handles - gone. The fat in between my thighs - gone. The belly fat - gone. I won't lie, the lipo suction hurt worse than the explant did. But I didn't have enough fat for her to harvest. This is why she had to use all the different sites on me. She first asked me where I would prefer her to take fat from - I picked my tummy. After I was under, she couldn't get enough and had to go to my love handles and inner thighs. So, the more fat you have - the better. I am sure my results would have been that much better had I had more fat. Another member - W. - also had fat transfers. I haven't seen a post for her in months so I don't know if the transfers lived but I do know that she had more fat than I had transferred and said that nobody could even tell she had an explant! Oh, Dr. Huang did her surgery as well. Dr. Huang has information she can share with you on the procedure as well. Hugs, Lynn Re: Re: Surgery scheduled ,I missed the fat transfer part, but they use your own fat, so there is not a rejection problem. The issue would be whether the fat cells would live, and apparently some of them do. Not all of them survive. One has to be sure to eat the right fats and not starve them, as explained by Dr. Huang. Lynn can tell you more, as she did this about 4 months ago and looks great. Liposuction was used to gather the fat cells. I certainly would have a few of those available.LyndaAt 12:30 PM 9/18/2007, you wrote:>I continue to be amazed by this journey of learning each day! Ok, >now I'm full of new questions. Until yesterday, I didn't realize >that I could get a fat transfer if I want to retain any appearance >of having breasts... is this procedure safe? Won't my body possibly >fight this? Secondly, if I had a lift when my implants were put in, >do you think I'll need a lift when I get them explanted? My implant >surgery was quite involved because I had tubular and very assymetric >breasts. The surgeon said I was his toughest case ever (lots of >trust in him after hearing that...) It took 3.5 hrs on the table >for him to tear my left muscle away and make a an evelope for a >modest 350cc envelope, then lift me as well. I'm hoping that I can >get an en bloc explant with no lift or additional work needed to look "human.">Linny>>>Be a better Globetrotter. ><http://us.rd. / evt=48254/ *http://answers. / dir/_ylc= X3oDMTI5MGx2aThy BF9TAzIxMTU1MDAz NTIEX3MDMzk2NTQ1 MTAzBHNlYwNCQUJw aWxsYXJfTklfMzYw BHNsawNQcm9kdWN0 X3F1ZXN0aW9uX3Bh Z2U-?link= list & sid= 396545469>Get >better travel answers from someone who knows.> Answers - Check it out.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Cherie, My insurance wouldn't have paid anyway due to an exclusion so I didn't even bother billing them. Lynn Re: Surgery scheduled Lynn,Thanks for the info! Her physicians assistant emailed me today and basicly said the same thing you did. I do have ins, a good one, so if I need an MRI they would cover it. They do not know that I have implants nor that I am having them removed. Thanks!Cherie> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cherie,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dr. Huang is very reasonable, compared to some> > > docs! . . .> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Mine was $12,000 in 1994.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Rogene> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not> >web links.> > >> >> >> > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 , Wow...it is a big step making the surgery date isn't it? I have you on the calendar, it's real! I know you will likely still spend some time agonizing over this decision...but I bet you will find that in some ways it is comforting to start working toward a goal instead of being in a " holding pattern " with no real relief in sight. Of course there are no guarantees, but my personal belief is that you can do a lot to set the stage for a good recovery. Time you spend preparing will not be a waste of time no matter what. With 3 months ahead of surgery I would look to doing whatever is reasonable to enhance and improve your current physical self. Cardio, weight, strength, stretch, nutrition. I was very motivated by the notion that I read that top athletes recover better and faster than us ordinary mortals because they are usually in tip-top condition when they sustain an injury. I put myself into that mental mind set and did what I could to improve what I could. Of course you will not become an Olympian...but talk to your doctor or GP about getting a physical evaluation and a program to optimize your cardio/strength/stretch and I bet you will see results. Our surgery has a long period of anesthesia....and the better your heart and lungs are funtioning...the better. My personal method was in the water because that was the only way I could challenge my body without too much pain. Standing up after surgery is grueling for everyone. The stronger your legs are before surgery the more you will have to draw on afterwards. I would also see if it is possible to get a consultation with a certified nutritionist. I believe that making sure your body has very adequate resources will help your body make new blood cells, bone and tissue necessary for healing quickly and well after the trauma of surgery. I also used liquid supplements 24 hours after each surgery once I was permitted on a liquid diet that is made by Novartis (it's called Impact-Recover). It is a medical drink and should only be used with your doctors permission. I found this company also manufactures one of the parenteral nutrition formulas used to feed via tube in the hospital setting. You might find the studies they have on their website interesting or motivating too. You will find a document in the " files " section on what members suggest to take to the hospital. You can start gathering the things that you might like to have with you. You will also have enough time to make changes in your household so that things that need to be brought up to a height you can easily access them from without bending can easily be done, a little at a time. If you ask, we can all share some of our favorite " home improvements " and other changes we have made to support ourselves with a healing home environment. You have time to organize a support system for yourself and your family. Most folks are more than happy to help out if asked....and usually it helps to make it be specific things. Help you might want to consider: Childcare, dogwalking, grocery shopping, being a contact point for letting family and friends know what is going on, arranging for friends to come visit to keep your spirits up, driving for you or your family until you are cleared to do so, and perhaps arranging for meals for a period of time either for while you are gone and in the hospital and/or for the first 1-2 weeks home. It is awful nice to see a home cooked meal come through the door when your caregiver has already had a long day taking care of you and the house and the kids those first days home. I know I will think of other things as you go a long...but that ought to get your started. More than anything else, I believe that getting yourself into the mindset that you can have an impact on your recovery helps your mind develop a good imagry for healing. There is an awful lot that you can't control in the surgery...but the things I've outlined are things that you can do for yourself. I found them to be very worthwhile for me. Take Care, Cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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