Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Hello, how are you doing? I just read an old post and you mentioned you had your gallbladder removed. Well, I found some info about gallbladders yesterday, I was researching for me and my mom. She passed 5 years ago from pancreas cancer. before that, she had diabetes for several years, and trouble with high cholestrol and at one time 1500 triglycerides ! ! Well, she was heavy, and went on the atkins diet, and ate lots of fat, and low carb, and lost about 70 lbs. She was happy about that til she was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and died 2 mos later........ Well, the problem was..................she had her gallbladder removed ! ! ! about 20-30 years previous to that, and was never told that she would have to be careful about what she ate, and that without her gallbladder she would need to take bile salts so as to metabolise her fats. All those years finally took its toll on her. It was when she went on the atkins diet, with all that fat she ate, it killed her pancreas. The doctors told us back then that all that fat when your pancreas is already sick will make it go fast, especially when you are deprived of your good fats. NOT one doctor said a word about her taking bile salts when she ate fats, or even paid attention to the fact her gallbladder was removed and that may be why she had wacky cholestrol/triglycerides ! Having a gallbladder removed changes your entire digestive system. It caused her diabetes, cholestrol problems, and eventually her death. She starved to death with pancreatic cancer. Here is what I sent my siblings to read about the gallbladder, so please, stay on top of it. You probably already know all this, but I want to be sure. My mom didnt deserve what they did to her, total negligence ! What is sad, most of the people I know that have had theirs out, dont know about it. I hope I am not offending you in any way by sending you this, I just wanna be sure you have the information ! ! Hugs ~ Dede Below is what I sent my family yesterday: Mom had her gallbladder removed, from then on, everything went down hill. Her cholestrol and triglycerides went way outta control, she got congestive heart failure, and diabetes, then she went on the atkins diet, and ate all the fat cuz it was ok..........but not for someone that doesnt have a gallbladder ! She was never told she needed to take bile salts to properly digest her fats ! ! ! ! ! ! ! If you just wanna read in short, read what I highlighted in red....to read the full article, click on the link. As soon as I get an ok from my heart deal, I am gonna do some liver flushes, and get rid of my stones ! ! ! What conventional medicine won't dare tell you about gall bladder removal surgery The first piece of advice I have for people who are considering gall bladder surgery is to get advice before the surgery, not after it, because once you've had the gall bladder removed, your options are quite limited. Remember that conventional medicine loves to go in and remove organs that are presenting symptoms rather than addressing the root cause of the problem in the first place. They think that by removing the organ that hurts, they've cured the problem. Hogwash! Gall bladder disease and gallstones are almost always the result of poor nutrition. For example: consuming a lot of soft drinks, sugar products, highly acidic foods like red meat and products made with white flour all contribute to the formation of gallstones. Gallstones can be reversed, but it’s something that takes quite a bit of time. After all, they have been formed in your body over a period of decades, so it's not something you can get rid of overnight from a nutritional standpoint. At the same time, I know that a lot of people are experiencing extreme pain when it comes to passing gall bladder stones. So obviously, those people are looking at surgical procedures as a more immediate technique for getting rid of the pain. Let's look at some information about gallstones because it is something that affects somewhere around 18 million people in the United States, and maybe even as many as 1 in every 12 people. And yet most people don't know they have them. According to the National Institutes of Health (NIH), pain from gallstones results in about 800,000 hospitalizations and more than 500,000 operations each year in the United States. Unfortunately, the NIH doesn't give people a lot of information about how to actually avoid gall bladder problems. It's also critical to recognize that the gall bladder has an important function in digestion. And, if you just remove it (which by the way is quite the barbaric thing to do), you are compromising your digestive health for the rest of your life. Surgeons who remove gall bladders are complacent in educating patients about nutritional changes they need to pursue after losing this important digestive organ. For example, you're not going to get the same quality of digestion you would have had if your gall bladder were in place. You're not going to get the excretion of the bile from the gall bladder into the small intestine, and as a result, you're not going to efficiently digest foods that are moving through your digestive tract. This is especially true for dietary fats, including essential fatty acids. Without a gall bladder, you're not going to be able to digest dietary fats with any degree of efficiency. This means that if you don't take bile salts as a nutritional supplement every time you eat healthy fats, you'll miss out on all-important omega-3 fatty acids and other healthy oils. That's why people who have had gall bladder removal surgery usually suffer the classic signs of EFA deficiencies: poor nervous system function, irritability, learning difficulties, heart disease, poor blood sugar control, and so on. Doctors and surgeons flat out aren't telling patients this all-important information. It's downright criminal, if you ask me. This basic education should be required by law. It's flat-out evil to remove an essential organ from a patient's body and neglect to tell them about the long-term adjustments they need to make in order to compensate for that missing organ. And you know why surgeons don't tell people the truth about gall bladder removal surgery? I suspect it's because if people knew the horrifying nutritional consequences of the procedure, they'd refuse to do it, and surgeons and hospitals would lose out on those paying customers. Talking to a gall bladder surgeon about your gall bladder health is sort of like taking your car to a greasy garage mechanic and asking, "Is there anything wrong with the transmission?" The answer you get is designed to pad his pockets. If you want honest answers on gall bladder pain, go visit a naturopath. As always, I strongly recommend that people who are considering this surgery look at naturopathic options, because removing a functional organ from your digestive tract is never a health-enhancing solution. It's just something that's too easy for conventional medicine to do. They do hundreds of thousands of these surgeries a year. They don’t consider it a big deal so the patients don’t think it’s a big deal either! But it really is a big deal. It's sort of like saying, "Well, doctor, my tongue hurts." And the doctor says, "Let's cut out your tongue." In fact, your gall bladder is far more important for digestion than your tongue. Do everything you can to protect your gall bladder. Along those lines, one of the most important things you need to do is physically massage your internal organs through body movement. A lot of people are surprised to hear this, but your internal organs need to be massaged just like your muscles and skin. Massage therapy is something that I recommend everyone pursue to enhance his or her health. Massage moves lymph fluid around the body. It stimulates the skin. It even stimulates the brain indirectly and helps create an immunostimulating relaxation response in virtually everyone. The internal organs need this same massage and the very best way to massage these internal organs, such as the gall bladder, is to engage in gentle body movement exercises. One of the very best you can pursue is Tai Chi. By following the gentle, pivoting movements of Tai Chi, you will massage your liver, gall bladder, pancreas, and even your heart. These organs are not fixed in place. They're not fixed in your body like they are on an anatomy chart. Your organs move around, and they actually benefit from movement just like massaging a limb. Also along those lines, one of the most important things you need to do is engage in breathing therapy because conscious breathing and deep breathing offers an outstanding massage to all the internal organs in your torso. Your lungs take up a tremendous amount of space in your chest cavity, and when you inhale and really expand your lungs, you are moving the other organs in your cavity and giving them a massage at the same time. Breathing is an excellent way to oxygenate your internal organs and get some movement. And by the way, your average conventional medicine physician isn’t going to recommend any of this -- nor will he or she even believe any of it. They've never been taught that massage is important for internal organs. In fact, most doctors I know don't think massage is useful at all, which sort of just goes to show you how little they know about how the human body really works! But massage is critical. And of course, so is nutrition. Once again, your best strategy here for your gall bladder is to avoid removing it. Instead, support gall bladder health through diet, nutrition, and physical exercise. For the reader question in particular, if you've had the gall bladder removed, and you're having a lot of discomfort. What should you do now? I'm sorry to say that these are the predictable side effects of having a gall bladder removed. And chances are your doctor or surgeon probably didn't explain this fully to you. Surgeons have a habit of making everything sound really simple, up until the day you have the procedure done. Then, you start experiencing all sorts of rather serious side effects, and they say, "Oh yeah! That could happen as well." Hopefully, in this experience, you've learned a lesson. And that lesson is, don’t have body parts removed by overzealous surgeons. I don’t know how to state it any simpler than that. I'm sorry I don’t have a simple solution for you to regain your health after having your gall bladder removed. But the fact is, when you start removing important organs from your body, it is going to have some serious negative consequences -- by the way, bloating and nausea is really only the tip of the iceberg here. The worst effects are the ones you probably won't feel, that is, impaired digestion for the rest of your life and chronic essential fatty acid deficiencies. In fact, people without gall bladders need to take special care of the foods they consume for the rest of their lives. And above all, they need to avoid all fried foods and any snack foods containing hydrogenated oils or trans fatty acids due to the role of the gall bladder plays in neutralizing excess dietary cholesterol. Below is a method in ridding yourself of gallstones gallstones form in the gallbladder and liver. Liver Cleanse And Gallstone Removal - Share The Wealth the link and below is in short how to do it ..... This fail-safe method of removing gallstones worked for me! And I now have a green gallstone preserved as proof. It's so simple that surgery seems criminal, especially considering you may be minus a gallbladder! Another fine example of hacking from allopathic medicine! Talk about primitive or what! Talk about a rip-off, according to the ref. cited, a number of doctors know about this but still don’t use it. Who are the quacks here? Disgusting! Drink daily (one litre per day with or without meals - any way you like) fresh apple juice (I used organic apple juice). This will soften the stones to such an extent that you can squash them with your fingers.On the 6th day, skip dinner. At 9 PM take 1 or 2 tablespoons of Epsom salt dissolved in 1-3 tablespoons of warm water. At 10 PM shake together half-cup (4 Oz) unrefined, cold pressed olive oil and 2 oz lemon juice and drink. Immediately go to bed and lie on your right side with your right knee drawn up toward your chin. Remain in this position for 30 minutes before going to sleep, to help olive oil drain. Another Epson salt solution may be needed during the night, so prepare before going to bed. Next morning you will pass green stones as large as your thumb without feeling a thing. In my case they where about the size of a pea. At first I thought nothing had happened as the stool was mostly water and I did not observe anything, just yellow (bile?) oily stuff. And I thought the procedure did not work. Needless to say I was very disappointed. However, I had to go again and this time it was still very watery but less yellow and I saw some lumps floating here and there. At first I thought it was some particulate matter and almost ignored it since from my first experience I was not expecting the method had worked - but was curious to see what the lumps were, so fished one out and low and behold, after rinsing, it was a green stone! Must have been at least a dozen or so and probably there were many the first time hidden below the yellow liquid. WOW now I am believer. Also seem to have more energy a nice unexpected side benefit! It's so easy and enjoyable to do - think will make it an annual event. Should keep the liver tiptop especially the energy benefit. So far I have done this four time. My last time included red stones. For some it can take 10 to 20 time before a change in stone type is observed. a gallbladder full of stones! more here See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 DEDE, OH MY GOSH!!! I am so sorry to hear about your mom, my heart goes out to you my dear! No one ever told me about this either! THANK YOU! I had gotten worse after my gallbladder came out, now I know why. Again...THANK YOU! Do you recommend the right bile salt product to buy? I will be going out tomorrow and getting it!! I am doing ok, I'm trying to detox a bit. I have to only take 1 Fungal Defense about every two days, it's effecting my lower back ememsly. It has gotten so bad that I can hardly stand or walk. I also tried Caprylic Acid and it did the same thing. Rogene mentioned to me that she thinks I have a horrible case of this. So I am still going to try but take it slow. I also have bought organic food and eating better. Thanks again for the info, I am extemely grateful! Cherie > > Hello, how are you doing? I just read an old > post and you mentioned you had your gallbladder > removed. Well, I found some info about gallbladders > yesterday, I was researching for me and my mom. > She passed 5 years ago from pancreas cancer. > before that, she had diabetes for several years, > and trouble with high cholestrol and at one time > 1500 triglycerides ! ! Well, she was heavy, and > went on the atkins diet, and ate lots of fat, and > low carb, and lost about 70 lbs. She was happy > about that til she was diagnosed with pancreatic > cancer and died 2 mos later........ > Well, the problem was..................she had > her gallbladder removed ! ! ! about 20-30 years > previous to that, and was never told that > she would have to be careful about what she > ate, and that without her gallbladder she would > need to take bile salts so as to metabolise her > fats. All those years finally took its toll on her. > It was when she went on the atkins diet, with all > that fat she ate, it killed her pancreas. The > doctors told us back then that all that fat > when your pancreas is already sick will make it > go fast, especially when you are deprived > of your good fats. NOT one doctor said > a word about her taking bile salts when she > ate fats, or even paid attention to the fact > her gallbladder was removed and that may > be why she had wacky cholestrol/triglycerides ! > Having a gallbladder removed changes your > entire digestive system. It caused her diabetes, > cholestrol problems, and eventually her death. > She starved to death with pancreatic cancer. > Here is what I sent my siblings to read about > the gallbladder, so please, stay on top of it. > You probably already know all this, but I want > to be sure. My mom didnt deserve what they did > to her, total negligence ! What is sad, most of the > people I know that have had theirs out, dont know > about it. I hope I am not offending you in any way > by sending you this, I just wanna be sure you have > the information ! ! Hugs ~ Dede > Below is what I sent my family yesterday: > > > Mom had her gallbladder removed, from then on, everything went down hill. > Her cholestrol and triglycerides went way outta control, she got congestive > heart failure, and diabetes, then she went on the atkins > diet, and ate all the fat cuz it was ok..........but not for someone that > doesnt have a gallbladder ! She was never told she needed to take bile salts > to properly digest her fats ! ! ! ! ! ! ! If you just wanna read in short, > read what I highlighted in red....to read the full article, click on the link. > As soon as I get an ok from my heart deal, I am gonna > do some liver flushes, and get rid of my stones ! ! ! > _What conventional medicine won't dare tell you about gall bladder removal > surgery_ (http://www.newstarget.com/007733.html) > The first piece of advice I have for people who are considering gall bladder > surgery is to get advice before the surgery, not after it, because once > you've had the gall bladder removed, your options are quite limited. Remember > that _conventional medicine_ > (http://www.newstarget.com/conventional_medicine.html) loves to go in and remove organs that are presenting symptoms rather than > addressing the root cause of the problem in the first place. They think that > by removing the organ that hurts, they've cured the problem. Hogwash! > > Gall bladder disease and gallstones are almost always the result of poor > _nutrition_ (http://www.newstarget.com/nutrition.html) . For example: consuming a > lot of soft drinks, _sugar_ (http://www.newstarget.com/sugar.html) > products, highly acidic foods like red meat and products made with white flour all > contribute to the formation of gallstones. > Gallstones can be reversed, but it’s something that takes quite a bit of > time. After all, they have been formed in your body over a period of decades, so > it's not something you can get rid of overnight from a nutritional > standpoint. At the same time, I know that a lot of people are experiencing extreme pain > when it comes to passing gall bladder stones. So obviously, those people are > looking at _surgical procedures_ > (http://www.newstarget.com/surgical_procedures.html) as a more immediate technique for getting rid of the pain. > Let's look at some information about gallstones because it is something that > affects somewhere around 18 million people in the United States, and maybe > even as many as 1 in every 12 people. And yet most people don't know they have > them. > According to the National Institutes of Health (_NIH_ > (http://www.newstarget.com/NIH.html) ), pain from gallstones results in about 800,000 > hospitalizations and more than 500,000 operations each year in the United States. > Unfortunately, the NIH doesn't give people a lot of information about how to actually > avoid gall bladder problems. It's also critical to recognize that the gall > bladder has an important function in _digestion_ > (http://www.newstarget.com/digestion.html) . And, if you just remove it (which by the way is quite the > barbaric thing to do), you are compromising your _digestive health_ > (http://www.newstarget.com/digestive_health.html) for the rest of your life. Surgeons who > remove gall bladders are complacent in educating patients about nutritional > changes they need to pursue after losing this important digestive organ. > For example, you're not going to get the same quality of digestion you would > have had if your gall bladder were in place. You're not going to get the > excretion of the bile from the gall bladder into the small intestine, and as a > result, you're not going to efficiently digest foods that are moving through > your _digestive tract_ (http://www.newstarget.com/digestive_tract.html) . This > is especially true for dietary fats, including essential _fatty acids_ > (http://www.newstarget.com/fatty_acids.html) . > Without a gall bladder, you're not going to be able to digest dietary fats > with any degree of efficiency. This means that if you don't take bile salts as > a nutritional supplement every time you eat healthy fats, you'll miss out on > all-important omega-3 fatty acids and other healthy oils. That's why people > who have had gall bladder removal surgery usually suffer the classic signs of > EFA deficiencies: poor nervous system function, irritability, learning > difficulties, heart disease, poor blood sugar control, and so on. > Doctors and _surgeons_ (http://www.newstarget.com/surgeons.html) flat out > aren't telling patients this all-important information. It's downright > criminal, if you ask me. This basic education should be required by law. It's > flat-out evil to remove an essential organ from a patient's body and neglect to tell > them about the long-term adjustments they need to make in order to > compensate for that missing organ. > And you know why surgeons don't tell people the truth about gall bladder > removal surgery? I suspect it's because if people knew the horrifying > nutritional consequences of the procedure, they'd refuse to do it, and surgeons and > hospitals would lose out on those paying customers. Talking to a gall bladder > surgeon about your gall bladder health is sort of like taking your car to a > greasy garage mechanic and asking, " Is there anything wrong with the > transmission?And you know why surgeons don't tell people the truth about gall bladder > removal surgery? I suspect it's because if people kne > As always, I strongly recommend that people who are considering this surgery > look at naturopathic options, because removing a functional organ from your > digestive tract is never a health-enhancing solution. It's just something > that's too easy for conventional medicine to do. They do hundreds of thousands of > these surgeries a year. They don’t consider it a big deal so the patients don > ’t think it’s a big deal either! > But it really is a big deal. It's sort of like saying, " Well, doctor, my > tongue hurts. " And the doctor says, " Let's cut out your tongue. " In fact, your > gall bladder is far more important for digestion than your tongue. > Do everything you can to protect your gall bladder. Along those lines, one of > the most important things you need to do is physically _massage_ > (http://www.newstarget.com/massage.html) your internal organs through body movement. A > lot of people are surprised to hear this, but your internal organs need to be > massaged just like your muscles and skin. > Massage therapy is something that I recommend everyone pursue to enhance his > or her health. Massage moves lymph fluid around the body. It stimulates the > skin. It even stimulates the brain indirectly and helps create an > immunostimulating relaxation response in virtually everyone. The internal organs need > this same massage and the very best way to massage these internal organs, such > as the gall bladder, is to engage in gentle body movement exercises. > One of the very best you can pursue is _Tai Chi_ > (http://www.newstarget.com/Tai_Chi.html) . By following the gentle, pivoting movements of Tai Chi, you > will massage your liver, gall bladder, pancreas, and even your heart. These > organs are not fixed in place. They're not fixed in your body like they are on > an anatomy chart. Your organs move around, and they actually benefit from > movement just like massaging a limb. > Also along those lines, one of the most important things you need to do is > engage in breathing therapy because conscious breathing and deep breathing > offers an outstanding massage to all the internal organs in your torso. Your > lungs take up a tremendous amount of space in your chest cavity, and when you > inhale and really expand your lungs, you are moving the other organs in your > cavity and giving them a massage at the same time. Breathing is an excellent way > to oxygenate your internal organs and get some movement. > And by the way, your average conventional medicine physician isn’t going to > recommend any of this -- nor will he or she even believe any of it. They've > never been taught that massage is important for internal organs. In fact, most > _doctors_ (http://www.newstarget.com/doctors.html) I know don't think > massage is useful at all, which sort of just goes to show you how little they know > about how the human body really works! But massage is critical. And of > course, so is nutrition. Once again, your best strategy here for your gall bladder > is to avoid removing it. Instead, support gall bladder health through diet, > nutrition, and physical exercise. > For the reader question in particular, if you've had the gall bladder > removed, and you're having a lot of discomfort. What should you do now? I'm sorry > to say that these are the predictable _side effects_ > (http://www.newstarget.com/side_effects.html) of having a gall bladder removed. And chances are your > doctor or surgeon probably didn't explain this fully to you. Surgeons have a > habit of making everything sound really simple, up until the day you have the > procedure done. Then, you start experiencing all sorts of rather serious side > effects, and they say, " Oh yeah! That could happen as well. " > Hopefully, in this experience, you've learned a lesson. And that lesson is, > don’t have body parts removed by overzealous surgeons. I don’t know how to > state it any simpler than that. I'm sorry I don’t have a simple solution for > you to regain your health after having your gall bladder removed. But the fact > is, when you start removing important organs from your body, it is going to > have some serious negative consequences -- by the way, bloating and _nausea_ > (http://www.newstarget.com/nausea.html) is really only the tip of the iceberg > here. > The worst effects are the ones you probably won't feel, that is, impaired > digestion for the rest of your life and chronic essential fatty acid > deficiencies. In fact, people without gall bladders need to take special care of the > foods they consume for the rest of their lives. And above all, they need to > avoid all fried foods and any snack foods containing hydrogenated oils or trans > fatty acids due to the role of the gall bladder plays in neutralizing excess > dietary cholesterol. > > > Below is a method in ridding yourself of gallstones > gallstones form in the gallbladder and liver. > > _Liver Cleanse And Gallstone Removal - Share The Wealth_ > (http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2005/06/03/liver_cleanse_and_ga llstone_removal.htm) the > link > and below is in short how to do it ..... > This fail-safe method of removing gallstones worked for me! And I now have a > green gallstone preserved as proof. > It's so simple that surgery seems criminal, especially considering you may be > minus a gallbladder! Another fine example of hacking from allopathic > medicine! Talk about primitive or what! Talk about a rip-off, according to the ref. > cited, a number of doctors know about this but still don’t use it. Who are > the quacks here? Disgusting! > Drink daily (one litre per day with or without meals - any way you like) > fresh apple juice (I used organic apple juice). This will soften the stones to > such an extent that you can squash them with your fingers. > > On the 6th day, skip dinner. At 9 PM take 1 or 2 tablespoons of Epsom salt > dissolved in 1-3 tablespoons of warm water. > At 10 PM shake together half-cup (4 Oz) unrefined, cold pressed olive oil and > 2 oz lemon juice and drink. > Immediately go to bed and lie on your right side with your right knee drawn > up toward your chin. Remain in this position for 30 minutes before going to > sleep, to help olive oil drain. Another Epson salt solution may be needed > during the night, so prepare before going to bed. Next morning you will pass green > stones as large as your thumb without feeling a thing. > In my case they where about the size of a pea. At first I thought nothing had > happened as the stool was mostly water and I did not observe anything, just > yellow (bile?) oily stuff. And I thought the procedure did not work. Needless > to say I was very disappointed. However, I had to go again and this time it > was still very watery but less yellow and I saw some lumps floating here and > there. At first I thought it was some particulate matter and almost ignored > it since from my first experience I was not expecting the method had worked - > but was curious to see what the lumps were, so fished one out and low and > behold, after rinsing, it was a green stone! Must have been at least a dozen or > so and probably there were many the first time hidden below the yellow > liquid. > WOW now I am believer. Also seem to have more energy a nice unexpected side > benefit! It's so easy and enjoyable to do - think will make it an annual > event. Should keep the liver tiptop especially the energy benefit. > So far I have done this four time. My last time included red stones. For some > it can take 10 to 20 time before a change in stone type is observed. > (http://curezone.com/image_gallery/gallbladder_removed/default.asp? i=1 & n=43) > a gallbladder full of stones! > > (http://curezone.com/image_gallery/gallbladder_removed/default.asp? i=29 & n=43) more here > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Cherie, You might want to hold off any more antifungals until you've used the bile salts for a few days . . . Maybe that's why you're reacting so badly to antifungals. Hopefully you'll do better after using bile salts. Hugs, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Thanks Rogene, I will definitely take your advice! Cherie > > Cherie, > > You might want to hold off any more antifungals until you've used the bile salts for a few days . . . Maybe that's why you're reacting so badly to antifungals. Hopefully you'll do better after using bile salts. > > Hugs, > > Rogene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Cherie ~ Girl, no I know nothing more about it than what I sent you ! I wish I did. I am gonna learn all I can about it tho because of my mom, and because I have had pancreatitis about 8 times now in the last 2 years. When I read that, it filled in all the blanks about what happened to my mom. Inbetween all that she had many surgeries replacing joints and all kinds of things. Bottom line, she had malabsorption due to not having proper digestion because of no gallbladder, along with not being told how to care for the loss. It angers me that the medical field does not look to digestion with illness, but I guess it is one of their saleing points, keeping people sick, keeps people coming back....... I am happy I helped you. I just dont know anything else about it. You might check with a naturopath, or if you already have a good doctor. Wow, I was just looking in a gallbladder forum and they all are having digestion problems IBS but they call it post ch.... syndrome. Also having bile duct problems and some not enough bile in there, well duh.......... none of them mention that tney are taking bile salts with their meals ! Anyway, I would talk to your doctor first, and follow your gut on the advice. Hugs DedeSee what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Cherie ~ I am hoping that will chime in on this one for us. She is very kind. I am done with doctors too, but right now I need them til I get this body under more control..........LOL...its got too many things going on and I have alot to learn still. I will overcome all of it though ! ! You have a good plan of action there, so hugs to you ! ! Love DedeSee what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 DeDe, I really dont' have a Dr. to talk to about this. My primary care dr. is useless. I really do not believe that my gallbladder surgeon knows about it because I was in and out of his office in pain after surgery and he never mentioned bile salts nor did he help me. I am really DONE with Dr.s!! I have did some research last night and many websites that recommended bile salts after the surgery stated that you take one before each meal. I am thinking that I will just buy some, take one before a meal and see what happens. It makes sense for me because I have had upper back pain and lower back pain after certain meals. I am also discovering that the reason why my lower back hurt soooo bad after fungal defense, it was my pancreas.....it doesn't like it! Cherie > > Cherie ~ > Girl, no I know nothing more about it than > what I sent you ! I wish I did. I am gonna > learn all I can about it tho because of my > mom, and because I have had pancreatitis > about 8 times now in the last 2 years. > When I read that, it filled in all the blanks > about what happened to my mom. Inbetween > all that she had many surgeries replacing joints > and all kinds of things. Bottom line, she > had malabsorption due to not having > proper digestion because of no gallbladder, > along with not being told how to care for the loss. > It angers me that the medical field does not > look to digestion with illness, but I guess > it is one of their saleing points, keeping people > sick, keeps people coming back....... > I am happy I helped you. I just dont know > anything else about it. You might check with > a naturopath, or if you already have a good > doctor. > Wow, I was just looking in a gallbladder forum > and they all are having digestion problems > IBS but they call it post ch.... syndrome. > Also having bile duct problems and some > not enough bile in there, well duh.......... > none of them mention that tney are > taking bile salts with their meals ! > Anyway, I would talk to your doctor > first, and follow your gut on the advice. > Hugs Dede > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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