Update and questions..

September 19, 2007

Hello ~

Bless your heart ! Yes, going thru rough spots

is something you do go thru, it is part of the

grieving period, a good cry would be good

for you, and perhaps a plastic baseball bat and

a big raggedy pillow to hit woud be appropriate.

A big box of kleenix and a good sad movie.

The crying will help you get out emotions, and

get endorphins flowing which will be good for you.

Your body was having some strange reactions to

the implants and safe (NOT) silicone. I had the same but I had foamy histiocytes and not foamy

macrophages. Adipose is fatty, and fibrosis is

abnormal formation of fibrous tissue. The synovial

metaplasia is some fluid with abnormal changes.

The silicone was not normal either.......As far

as what this means for your health, you just did

the best thing you could have ever done for you !

They are gone, and now you can work on you !

Dont worry, you will be ok. Plan on regaining your

health and you will. It may take some time, it may not.

Detoxing will be the next huge key to your health

returning. That is the part that takes patients, and

time.... All thisstress and surgery stuff is very hard

on the adrenals so, please read in the archives about

the adrenals, and if you fit in there you can do things

at home to support them, adrenals are important ! !

I pray your biopsy goes well in October. Be sure

and double up on your probiotic especially while on

the antibiotic so that you can replace the good guys.

I had a polyp removed in 1999. It was a piece of cake.

I have had my uterus removed, so it was on the wall. I

had fibroids and myomas, and early cervical cancer.

That all was in 1995. Implant rupture was 1994.

They say silicone kills your NK cells, the ones that

fight against cancer.......I would believe it........

Just keep in tune with your body, know every

cell of your body, and follow your gut.

I think you will do well !

Hugs N prayers ! ! !

DedeSee what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

September 19, 2007

I must start by saying that today is not a good day for me... I

finally started feeling sorry for myself that I've been so sick, no

energy, and I can't clean the spot on the carpet that is annoying me.

I'm guessing others have gone through this phase.... I want to be the

energetic person I used to be.... Oh well... I know this will pass.

I found out from my GYN that I have a bacterial infection that they

are treating with antibiotics right now... I will have a surgical

biopsy Oct 13, on a uterine polyp that they think looks questionable..

not looking forward to more surgery right now.

So my questions are:

I have been trying to decipher my pathology report to determine what

this means for my health...

This is what it said about each implant:

Fibroadipose tissue with fibrosis. Synovial Metaplasia and numerous

foamy macrophages.

There were multiple glistening yellow and gray-brown fragments of

fatty and fibro membranous, partially cauterized tissue. The silicone

inside was clear and slightly yellow tinged.

Anyone know what any of this means? I did read that the longer the

implants are in the more macrophages are there the higher the risk of

showing autoimmune symptoms (which of course I have... after 20 years

duh...) and the longer these are present the less likely one is to

have a complete reversal of symptoms.

If anyone has any knowledge of opinions (or even sites I can read more

about this) let me know....

Thanks for all your help.

September 19, 2007

,

I am so sorry you aren't feeling well. It took me a few good months to feel better. I know there are some women of have felt better right away but I wasn't one of them.

I had to conserve much of my energy - lots of rest. I was frustrated that I couldn't live my "normal" life too. It does become quite depressing. Things that helped me were light excercise, relaxing music, breathing excercises, sitting in the sun for a little bit each day, chamomile tea, hot baths with epson salts and #1.... this board!!! Coming here really calmed my anxiety and depression because of the hope that I was given that I would get better.

I am sorry I can't tell you what the labs mean. Mine were very confusing too. The women here helped me decipher them and it show mostly inflammation and that my body was fighting them.

Hugs, Lynn

Update and questions..

I must start by saying that today is not a good day for me... Ifinally started feeling sorry for myself that I've been so sick, noenergy, and I can't clean the spot on the carpet that is annoying me.I'm guessing others have gone through this phase.... I want to be theenergetic person I used to be.... Oh well... I know this will pass.I found out from my GYN that I have a bacterial infection that theyare treating with antibiotics right now... I will have a surgicalbiopsy Oct 13, on a uterine polyp that they think looks questionable. .not looking forward to more surgery right now.So my questions are:I have been trying to decipher my pathology report to determine whatthis means for my health...This is what it said about each implant:Fibroadipose tissue with fibrosis. Synovial Metaplasia and numerousfoamy macrophages. There were multiple glistening yellow and gray-brown fragments

offatty and fibro membranous, partially cauterized tissue. The siliconeinside was clear and slightly yellow tinged. Anyone know what any of this means? I did read that the longer theimplants are in the more macrophages are there the higher the risk ofshowing autoimmune symptoms (which of course I have... after 20 yearsduh...) and the longer these are present the less likely one is tohave a complete reversal of symptoms.If anyone has any knowledge of opinions (or even sites I can read moreabout this) let me know.... Thanks for all your help.

September 19, 2007

, I'd be lying if I told you that women who have had breast implants as long as you have an easy time recovering! . . . It's hard - and you know it! The good news is that we know much more about detoxing than those who put out that kind of information do! . . . Did you have a massive rupture? . . . Lynda did! . . . She's still able to enjoy life (well, before breaking her foot anyway). . . She followed a very strict diet following explant . . . and has worked at staying well. I have no doubt that you can too! . . . Nobody can tell you it will be easy . . . and nobody can do it for you. . . You'll have bad days - followed by good days. Eventually the bad days will be further and further apart. What you'll need to do is to work out a detox program for yourself. Keep a journal describing what you're doing and how you feel. . Eventually,

you'll know when you hit the mark and when you failed. . . You'll know what happens when you push yourself too far - and how to get back on the beam. . . It takes patience, discipline and commitment! You've come this far - and I know you can do the rest. . Please take care of yourself . .. avoid stressing over everything - or letting anger steal your energy. Your body needs tender loving care! . . . The more you give it, the better it will heal! Hugs and prayers, Rogene

September 19, 2007

, Check this website on Synovial Metaplasia: http://arpa.allenpress.com/arpaonline/?request=get-document & doi=10.1043%2F0003-9985(2002)126%3C0727:SMASFO%3E2.0.CO%3B2 Rogene

September 20, 2007

Rogene,

When I read that article about synovial metaplasia, they

made sure it sounded good ! here is their words..........

"synovial metaplasia might represent a specialized form of

healing in cases that have this combination of physical

features."

Meaning if you have synovial metaplasia, due to silicone

breast implants, it means that you have special healing

going on.

That is total BS ! It is amazing the brainwashing crap

they say ! ! Their use of the word " might " was also a

big part of the bs.......

I think that she needs not worry, as she had it all

removed, but it clearly means there was fluid there

for protection and it had unusual changes due to

silicone implants being there.

The medical field will do or say anything they

can to protect the billion dollar industry of implants !

Hugs DedeSee what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

September 20, 2007

~

Bless your heart ! I love you ! Honey,

when you refer to your breasts. Try to

use words like healthy, small, sexy breasts.

Flat chest and loss are words that have

a negative feel to them. Your " loss" is

actually the loss of the unhealthy breasts

and illness associated with it, and loss of

cysts formed by the infection that they caused.

This is a good loss...........Look how sexy Kate

Hudson and Debra Messing are with their

beautiful breasts ! !

I was very small for 5 years, and I cant wait to

be that again.

Love you girl ! Dont forget that with all the surgery

I am sure your adrenals are exhausted, so you need

to support them too. Lots of vitamin C and I dont

remember what else, it is in our archives tho. I am still

alittle brain challenged with the fog.......

Gentle hugs to you, get lots of rest, listen to your

body language and intuition....Love DedeSee what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

September 20, 2007

~

Yes, and it also mentioned the silicone clear and yellow

glistening. That stuff is extremely sticky. I was able

to see my ruputred implant, and they told me to be

sure and not touch it as I would never get it off of me

because if the stickiness.

I am glad they werent ruptured, and glad that you

had the scar caps there protecting you best they

could. Those are two good and positive things.

You still have some in your system but not as much

as if you had a rupture or the capsules left in.

Dr Huang took good care of you !

Hugs DedeSee what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

September 20, 2007

, I'm so sorry that you are not feeling well. It sounds like you could use a big hug. Here are some flowers to brighten your day. I'm a little upset as well that I am still so fatiged. I have no energy at all. My mental state seemed to change over night, but my physical condition is still dragging or lets say it hasn't even started yet. I'm still living life in bed, but my mind is so active. If my body will catch up to my mind, I'll be perfect. The way I see it is, I've been in bed the better part of 2 years. It's going to take some time to build my strength up. I'm trying

not to push myself to hard physically, I'm just greatful I'm thinking better, even my speech has improved. I'm so happy that the brain fog is going away, that I wouldn't dare complain about the physical fatige. I will get stronger with time and so will you. Before implant surgery I didn't have small breast, matter a fact most people didn't even know I had surgery. My breast were very long and saggy from years of breastfeeding. When I went to the surgeon about my breast I wanted a lift. He said he could fix my breast, but he wanted to remove some of the skin to lift my nipples higher. He also suggested a banelli to make my nipples smaller because they were sooo large. He then stated if he added small implants it would fluff them up. Well, I fell for the pitch. I had complete

recontruction done. No more long saggy boobs with monster eyeball nipples for me. I woke up to high and round D cups. He said they would look smaller in a few months, but they never did. Now that the implants are gone and I had to have nearly all of the ramaining tissue removed due to scar tissue and 5 cysts, I'm so flat. All I have left is breast skin. I am wearing a sports bra to help my breast heal tighter, if it's possible. I have not cried about my loss yet. How can I when I'm getting so much better. I fear my grieving will sneak up on me when I least expect it. Hopefully my gratitude for getting better will keep me happy. We have a long road ahead of us. The worst is over and now it's time to heal and rebuild. I hope you begin feeling better soon. I will keep you in my prayers daily. Love bnincongo <bnincongo@...> wrote: I must start by saying that today is not a good day for me... Ifinally started feeling sorry for myself that I've been so sick, noenergy, and I can't clean the spot on the carpet that is annoying me.I'm guessing others have gone through this phase.... I want to be theenergetic person I used to be.... Oh well... I know this will pass.I found out from my GYN that I have a bacterial infection that theyare treating with antibiotics right now... I will have a surgicalbiopsy Oct 13, on a uterine polyp that they think looks questionable..not looking forward to

more surgery right now.So my questions are:I have been trying to decipher my pathology report to determine whatthis means for my health...This is what it said about each implant:Fibroadipose tissue with fibrosis. Synovial Metaplasia and numerousfoamy macrophages. There were multiple glistening yellow and gray-brown fragments offatty and fibro membranous, partially cauterized tissue. The siliconeinside was clear and slightly yellow tinged. Anyone know what any of this means? I did read that the longer theimplants are in the more macrophages are there the higher the risk ofshowing autoimmune symptoms (which of course I have... after 20 yearsduh...) and the longer these are present the less likely one is tohave a complete reversal of symptoms.If anyone has any knowledge of opinions (or even sites I can read moreabout this) let me know.... Thanks for all your

help.

September 20, 2007

Oh Dede . . . Don't you know? Silicone is inert! . . . One of the most abundent minerals on earth! . . . Surely the body wouldn't mount a defense against such an innocent material! NOT! Rogene

September 20, 2007

, when I read your note to , it broke my heart. It sounds like you need a hug as well. I am sending you a big hug.

Honey, do you have any respiratory problems, and do you smoke? The fatigue will go away eventually, but you must try to walk around a bit. Your implants have just been removed and it will take time to heal. This is one place where you can complain all you want. We need to know how you are doing, because it really helps other women like . It gives them hope for their healing process.

It has been 15 years for me, and I am still asking questions. If I had had the correct surgery to clean me out, I would not be going through more surgery. We are so happy that you are cleaned out, because you have a better chance at getting well. I would love to be flat chested again, as long as it makes me well. Honey, please buy a pretty padded bra, because it might help you to feel better.

Just know that we are all here for you...sending love always...Lea

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Re: Update and questions..

,

I'm so sorry that you are not feeling well.

It sounds like you could use a big hug.

Here are some flowers to brighten your day.

I'm a little upset as well that I am still so fatiged.

I have no energy at all.

My mental state seemed to change over night,

but my physical condition is still dragging

or lets say it hasn't even started yet.

I'm still living life in bed, but my mind is so active.

If my body will catch up to my mind, I'll be perfect.

The way I see it is, I've been in bed the better part of 2 years.

It's going to take some time to build my strength up.

I'm trying not to push myself to hard physically,

I'm just greatful I'm thinking better, even my speech has improved.

I'm so happy that the brain fog is going away,

that I wouldn't dare complain about the physical fatige.

I will get stronger with time and so will you.

Before implant surgery I didn't have small breast,

matter a fact most people didn't even know I had surgery.

My breast were very long and saggy from years of breastfeeding.

When I went to the surgeon about my breast I wanted a lift.

He said he could fix my breast, but he wanted to remove some

of the skin to lift my nipples higher. He also suggested a banelli

to make my nipples smaller because they were sooo large.

He then stated if he added small implants it would fluff them up.

Well, I fell for the pitch. I had complete recontruction done.

No more long saggy boobs with monster eyeball nipples for me.

I woke up to high and round D cups.

He said they would look smaller in a few months,

but they never did.

Now that the implants are gone

and I had to have nearly all of the ramaining tissue removed

due to scar tissue and 5 cysts, I'm so flat.

All I have left is breast skin.

I am wearing a sports bra to help my breast heal tighter,

if it's possible.

I have not cried about my loss yet.

How can I when I'm getting so much better.

I fear my grieving will sneak up on me when I least expect it.

Hopefully my gratitude for getting better will keep me happy.

We have a long road ahead of us.

The worst is over and now it's time to heal and rebuild.

I hope you begin feeling better soon.

I will keep you in my prayers daily.

Love

bnincongo <bnincongomac> wrote:

I must start by saying that today is not a good day for me... Ifinally started feeling sorry for myself that I've been so sick, noenergy, and I can't clean the spot on the carpet that is annoying me.I'm guessing others have gone through this phase.... I want to be theenergetic person I used to be.... Oh well... I know this will pass.I found out from my GYN that I have a bacterial infection that theyare treating with antibiotics right now... I will have a surgicalbiopsy Oct 13, on a uterine polyp that they think looks questionable..not looking forward to more surgery right now.So my questions are:I have been trying to decipher my pathology report to determine whatthis means for my health...This is what it said about each implant:Fibroadipose tissue with fibrosis. Synovial Metaplasia and numerousfoamy macrophages. There were multiple glistening yellow and gray-brown fragments offatty and fibro membranous, partially cauterized tissue. The siliconeinside was clear and slightly yellow tinged. Anyone know what any of this means? I did read that the longer theimplants are in the more macrophages are there the higher the risk ofshowing autoimmune symptoms (which of course I have... after 20 yearsduh...) and the longer these are present the less likely one is tohave a complete reversal of symptoms.If anyone has any knowledge of opinions (or even sites I can read moreabout this) let me know.... Thanks for all your help.

September 20, 2007

,

Thanks so much for the encouragement. I keep you in my thoughts and

prayers also.

I'm just very happy to have the implants out and my husband keeps

telling me that it probably saved my life. I'm just not very patient

some days and feel guilty about not being able to do all the things I

was doing a few years ago to help with managing a house.

I do know that I'll feel better too when the next surgery is over... I

just never feel comfortable going under anesthesia.

Thanks again,

> I must start by saying that today is not a good day for me... I

> finally started feeling sorry for myself that I've been so sick, no

> energy, and I can't clean the spot on the carpet that is annoying me.

> I'm guessing others have gone through this phase.... I want to be the

> energetic person I used to be.... Oh well... I know this will pass.

>

> I found out from my GYN that I have a bacterial infection that they

> are treating with antibiotics right now... I will have a surgical

> biopsy Oct 13, on a uterine polyp that they think looks questionable..

> not looking forward to more surgery right now.

>

> So my questions are:

>

> I have been trying to decipher my pathology report to determine what

> this means for my health...

>

> This is what it said about each implant:

> Fibroadipose tissue with fibrosis. Synovial Metaplasia and numerous

> foamy macrophages.

> There were multiple glistening yellow and gray-brown fragments of

> fatty and fibro membranous, partially cauterized tissue. The silicone

> inside was clear and slightly yellow tinged.

>

> Anyone know what any of this means? I did read that the longer the

> implants are in the more macrophages are there the higher the risk of

> showing autoimmune symptoms (which of course I have... after 20 years

> duh...) and the longer these are present the less likely one is to

> have a complete reversal of symptoms.

>

> If anyone has any knowledge of opinions (or even sites I can read more

> about this) let me know....

>

> Thanks for all your help.

>

September 20, 2007

Thanks so much... I am very happy too that no one is painting a rosy

picture that might not be true. I do know that I have a long road

ahead. I have been following Dr Kolbs advice for detox supplements

and have made an appointment with a woman who had a ionic foot bath.

I'll keep adding things as I can. I am determined to get better

without the drugs the rhumatologist wants me to take.

The best thing is knowing that I can get the support and encouragement

here when I feel " weak " .

Thanks,

>

> ,

>

> I'd be lying if I told you that women who have had breast implants

as long as you have an easy time recovering! . . . It's hard - and you

know it!

>

> The good news is that we know much more about detoxing than those

who put out that kind of information do! . . .

>

> Did you have a massive rupture? . . . Lynda did! . . . She's still

able to enjoy life (well, before breaking her foot anyway). . . She

followed a very strict diet following explant . . . and has worked at

staying well.

>

> I have no doubt that you can too! . . . Nobody can tell you it

will be easy . . . and nobody can do it for you. . . You'll have bad

days - followed by good days. Eventually the bad days will be further

and further apart. What you'll need to do is to work out a detox

program for yourself. Keep a journal describing what you're doing and

how you feel. . Eventually, you'll know when you hit the mark and

when you failed. . . You'll know what happens when you push yourself

too far - and how to get back on the beam. . . It takes patience,

discipline and commitment!

>

> You've come this far - and I know you can do the rest. .

>

> Please take care of yourself . .. avoid stressing over everything

- or letting anger steal your energy. Your body needs tender loving

care! . . . The more you give it, the better it will heal!

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

September 20, 2007

OH....

I didn't have a rupture at all. The pathology report said that the

implants seemed to be intact. However based on the synovial

metaplasia and numerous foamy macrophages, Dr Huang believes that they

had probably been " bleeding " for a long time.... maybe since they were

put in.