Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issues

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We've been to the feeding clinic in Madison, they arent' much help. They don't actually work with the kid. Just suggest stuff to try at home. The one in Milwaukee is suppose to be much better, so if we move back that way we will give it a try. They actually have to kid come in and work with them. The OT in the school district is great and has this as a focus, but only see's him an hour a week.

He will eat the GFCF stuff, it is all just crap too. Chips, crackers, cereal. My point is the diets are pointless if you kid will only eat one texture of food. And it costs a fortune for no results, don't see the point for us. There is more variety if he isn't GFCF and therefore more oportunity to sneak stuff in.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 12:04:10 AMSubject: Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issues

My son is similar in the need for crunchy foods. He is apraxic and is undersensitive

in his mouth, if you know what I mean. I feel what your saying..its a very tricky thing

and sensory issues, so hard to work through. I would go with your Mommy instinct

if you feel he isnt eating enough, or trying to push him to eat foods he isnt ready for sensory wise, could backfire..maybe go real slow. Get him eating again and add one

GF food you think you can eventually replace...keep adding at his pace until you feel

he has an ok basic diet to work off of. Most people do cut the Gluten and casein

all at once but there are kids that just wont eat anything if its done that way.

Do you know of a nearby reahabilitation hospital for kids? Often they have feeding

specialists that can help. I thought it would be too clinical for my son, but its very

OT like, and actually sort of fun. He goes once a week right after OT and speech.

I really hope you can figure it out.

40 and Mom to threeTash 23 ooops..new Mommy ( I'm a Grammy to Kyri 2 )Casey-Mae 14..sweet as pieElijah 3.5 .. ASD and beautiful

From: Debra Kavky <dkavkyyahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issuesTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 4:46 AM

Hi I make a crispy pizza using teff wraps with ground beef and rice cheese very little sauce cut it up and it looks like chips. One more thing. Use a mandolin slicer and fry veggies until crisp or bake them?Natures path does a great cheerio style cereal. Potatoes baked haf scooped with meat hmmmm.Good luck! Deb

From: Arrowood <emarrowoodyahoo (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, October 30, 2009 5:27:18 PMSubject: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issues

None of these diets like SCD and GAPS address the sensory issues. If it was as easy as feeding them a healthy diet everyone would be doing it. My son won't even touch most foods. Crys and turns his head all the way around if you hold it up to him. For the most part he will only eat super crispy foods - cereals, crackers, pretzels. Basically crap. It doesn't matter if it is made from wheat, rice, corn, or even pork rinds. It just has to be crispy. He has a few exceptions - sometimes apple slices and sometimes orange slices. We have been GFCF for 3 months with no results. That will open up some options for him as he will eat super crispy grilled cheese and french toast made in the waffle iron (makes it thin and less squishy). At least it gets something solid in him and he won't be hungry all the time.

And no giving him nothing doesn't make him eat. He will starve himself, he will not eat to live if all you give him is mushy food or even just new food.

I also don't understand how to get enzymes in him. It is no secret that they taste terrible. I have the Enzymedica that you can put in the juice, but that makes it fizzy which he doesn't like.

I guess I just feel that all these plans oversimplify it. Am I the only one whose kid has a feeding disorder?

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You can completely eliminate soy by only cooking and serving fresh foods - nothing prepackaged. I only use seeds, nuts, fresh fruit, veggies, meat, and eggs.

Subject: Re: Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issuesTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 2:39 PM

I find it impossible to eliminate soy. They seem to put it in almost everything, and since the only things he eats are crispy there is some form of soy in it. I am going to start making my own bread and crackers. Having a harder time finding recipes for not soft pretzels. Not sure if there are soy free cereals out there. My next step is to eliminate as much soy as possible since I know that is an actual problem for him. He used to eat crispy french fries but seems to be bored with them now.

I can try more Zinc, it won't hurt, havent' had much results from supplements either.

Thanks for your time

From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@ yahoo..com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, October 30, 2009 6:51:59 PMSubject: Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issues

, you are certainly not alone. Most the kids that have limited diets need more zinc, I have known people whose DAN! doctors have agreed with this. They are unable to smell and taste the foods, which makes them undesireable. You can put zinc in water by getting it in the liquid ionic form. Here is one that I have used www.kornax.com, it is the brand Angstrom. The GFCFSF diet most definitely eliminates sensory issues IF the inflammation that is causing them is due to food intolerance (which, in my opinion it usually is) but yes, until the problem foods are eliminated, it will be hard to get them to eat the other foods that they tolerate. I suggest the Kid-Friendly GFCF Cookbook. Have you eliminated soy yet? What about artificial colors/flavors and MSG? All these can cause inflammation. My son cannot have any store-bought sauces (ketchup, honey-mustard,

bbq...regardless if it is GFCF) and still cannot tolerate sugar. I don't give him anything that has natural flavors - which many of the GFCF foods do- or he has a reaction. Does he eat french fries? Can you make them homemade for him? I have a lot of ideas and you can call me if you need help. Liz >> None of these diets like SCD and GAPS address the sensory issues. If it was as easy as feeding them a healthy diet everyone would be doing it. My son won't even touch most foods. Crys and turns his head all the way around if you hold it up to him. For the most part he will only eat super crispy foods - cereals, crackers, pretzels. Basically

crap. It doesn't matter if it is made from wheat, rice, corn, or even pork rinds. It just has to be crispy. He has a few exceptions - sometimes apple slices and sometimes orange slices. We have been GFCF for 3 months with no results. That will open up some options for him as he will eat super crispy grilled cheese and french toast made in the waffle iron (makes it thin and less squishy). At least it gets something solid in him and he won't be hungry all the time.> > And no giving him nothing doesn't make him eat. He will starve himself, he will not eat to live if all you give him is mushy food or even just new food.> > I also don't understand how to get enzymes in him. It is no secret that they taste terrible. I have the Enzymedica that you can put in the juice, but that makes it fizzy which he doesn't like.> > I guess I just feel that all these plans

oversimplify it. Am I the only one whose kid has a feeding disorder?> > >

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At least your son eats meat. Mine never has on it's own, unless bacon counts. He will eat a chicken taquito baked extra crispy sometimes.

As far as knowing that GFCF is healing him, I don't know that. After 3 months there has been no change - neither negative or positive. He is exactly the same.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 7:26:04 AMSubject: Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issues

Wouldn't you want to keep him eating the foods he is eating knowing they are GFCF and doing good to heal his body....even if you have to force the syringe down his throat? We have been GFCF for three years and my son still only likes hotdogs (switched to turkey), chips, and the occassional GFCF waffle, hamburger, and chicken....his protein level is always off the charts.

But...I know his gut is healing or healed as we have had infractions after three years and saw nothing (we used to see the red ears, cheeks, loose bowels, stimming, etc.) And if you feel bad 'forcing' a syringe of vegies and fruits down him, then may I suggest trying Juice PLUS. This solved that problem for us and now he readily eats his fruits and vegies. (It is a supplement with over 17 GFCF, Organic certified fruits/vegies) . No, it is not intended to replace F/V in the diet but what are we supposed to do when that is what we are facing with our kids....eventually they will eat them on their own....after 9 months on this product, my son started eating carrots, and now green beans, all fruits, peas....so we are going in the right direction. He is in recovery with some sensory issues still-sure he prefers hot dogs and chips but we are moving in the right direction and I feel good knowing I did not give in.

HTH,

Kersten

www.antioxidativest resswithjuiceplu s.com

Share in the joy of our journey at...www.thefarrellfound ation.org

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Thanks, but he wont' take chewables. It has to be crispy enough for him to crush it between his fingers.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 8:43:26 AMSubject: Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issues

We had been putting our son's capsule enzymes in juice, too, and he also wasn't too thrilled with the consistency it made the juice. So I ordered Houston's TriEnza which comes in chewable form (I got it from www.ourkidsASD. com). I just give him a few before each meal, and he now takes that SOOO much more easily since it looks/tastes like candy. Might be worth a try to see if your son likes the chewable enzymes better than mixing them in liquids. Good luck!> Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issues> > > > None of these diets like SCD and GAPS address the sensory issues. If it was as

easy as feeding them a healthy diet everyone would be doing it. My son won't even touch most foods. Crys and turns his head all the way around if you hold it up to him. For the most part he will only eat super crispy foods - cereals, crackers, pretzels. Basically crap. It doesn't matter if it is made from wheat, rice, corn, or even pork rinds. It just has to be crispy. He has a few exceptions - sometimes apple slices and sometimes orange slices. We have been GFCF for 3 months with no results. That will open up some options for him as he will eat super crispy grilled cheese and french toast made in the waffle iron (makes it thin and less squishy). At least it gets something solid in him and he won't be hungry all the time.> > And no giving him nothing doesn't make him eat. He will starve himself, he will not eat to live if all you give him is mushy food or even just new food.> > I also don't understand how to get enzymes in

him. It is no secret that they taste terrible. I have the Enzymedica that you can put in the juice, but that makes it fizzy which he doesn't like.> > I guess I just feel that all these plans oversimplify it. Am I the only one whose kid has a feeding disorder?> > >

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I hate to tell you about when I was about six years old,and ate nothing but scrambled eggs and Vienna Sausages.Perhaps you ought to try another diet. Subject: Re: Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issuesTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 1:05 PM

At least your son eats meat. Mine never has on it's own, unless bacon counts. He will eat a chicken taquito baked extra crispy sometimes.

As far as knowing that GFCF is healing him, I don't know that. After 3 months there has been no change - neither negative or positive. He is exactly the same.

From: Kersten Rojas <kerstenrojas@ yahoo.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sat, October 31, 2009 7:26:04 AMSubject: Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issues

Wouldn't you want to keep him eating the foods he is eating knowing they are GFCF and doing good to heal his body....even if you have to force the syringe down his throat? We have been GFCF for three years and my son still only likes hotdogs (switched to turkey), chips, and the occassional GFCF waffle, hamburger, and chicken....his protein level is always off the charts.

But...I know his gut is healing or healed as we have had infractions after three years and saw nothing (we used to see the red ears, cheeks, loose bowels, stimming, etc.) And if you feel bad 'forcing' a syringe of vegies and fruits down him, then may I suggest trying Juice PLUS. This solved that problem for us and now he readily eats his fruits and vegies. (It is a supplement with over 17 GFCF, Organic certified fruits/vegies) . No, it is not intended to replace F/V in the diet but what are we supposed to do when that is what we are facing with our kids....eventually they will eat them on their own....after 9 months on this product, my son started eating carrots, and now green beans, all fruits, peas....so we are going in the right direction. He is in recovery with some sensory issues still-sure he prefers hot dogs and chips but we are moving in the right direction and I feel good knowing I did not give in.

HTH,

Kersten

www.antioxidativest resswithjuiceplu s.com

Share in the joy of our journey at...www.thefarrellfound ation.org

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I hate to tell you about when I was about six years old,and ate nothing but scrambled eggs and Vienna Sausages.Perhaps you ought to try another diet. Subject: Re: Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issuesTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 1:05 PM

At least your son eats meat. Mine never has on it's own, unless bacon counts. He will eat a chicken taquito baked extra crispy sometimes.

As far as knowing that GFCF is healing him, I don't know that. After 3 months there has been no change - neither negative or positive. He is exactly the same.

From: Kersten Rojas <kerstenrojas@ yahoo.com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sat, October 31, 2009 7:26:04 AMSubject: Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issues

Wouldn't you want to keep him eating the foods he is eating knowing they are GFCF and doing good to heal his body....even if you have to force the syringe down his throat? We have been GFCF for three years and my son still only likes hotdogs (switched to turkey), chips, and the occassional GFCF waffle, hamburger, and chicken....his protein level is always off the charts.

But...I know his gut is healing or healed as we have had infractions after three years and saw nothing (we used to see the red ears, cheeks, loose bowels, stimming, etc.) And if you feel bad 'forcing' a syringe of vegies and fruits down him, then may I suggest trying Juice PLUS. This solved that problem for us and now he readily eats his fruits and vegies. (It is a supplement with over 17 GFCF, Organic certified fruits/vegies) . No, it is not intended to replace F/V in the diet but what are we supposed to do when that is what we are facing with our kids....eventually they will eat them on their own....after 9 months on this product, my son started eating carrots, and now green beans, all fruits, peas....so we are going in the right direction. He is in recovery with some sensory issues still-sure he prefers hot dogs and chips but we are moving in the right direction and I feel good knowing I did not give in.

HTH,

Kersten

www.antioxidativest resswithjuiceplu s.com

Share in the joy of our journey at...www.thefarrellfound ation.org

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Now you know how I am about corn.Please let me know if you find a highly absorbable form of zinc.Chewables won't do it. Subject: Re: Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issuesTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 12:39 PM

I find it impossible to eliminate soy. They seem to put it in almost everything, and since the only things he eats are crispy there is some form of soy in it. I am going to start making my own bread and crackers. Having a harder time finding recipes for not soft pretzels. Not sure if there are soy free cereals out there. My next step is to eliminate as much soy as possible since I know that is an actual problem for him. He used to eat crispy french fries but seems to be bored with them now.

I can try more Zinc, it won't hurt, havent' had much results from supplements either.

Thanks for your time

From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@ yahoo..com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, October 30, 2009 6:51:59 PMSubject: Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issues

, you are certainly not alone. Most the kids that have limited diets need more zinc, I have known people whose DAN! doctors have agreed with this. They are unable to smell and taste the foods, which makes them undesireable. You can put zinc in water by getting it in the liquid ionic form. Here is one that I have used www.kornax.com, it is the brand Angstrom. The GFCFSF diet most definitely eliminates sensory issues IF the inflammation that is causing them is due to food intolerance (which, in my opinion it usually is) but yes, until the problem foods are eliminated, it will be hard to get them to eat the other foods that they tolerate. I suggest the Kid-Friendly GFCF Cookbook. Have you eliminated soy yet? What about artificial colors/flavors and MSG? All these can cause inflammation. My son cannot have any store-bought sauces (ketchup, honey-mustard,

bbq...regardless if it is

GFCF) and still cannot tolerate sugar. I don't give him anything that has natural flavors - which many of the GFCF foods do- or he has a reaction. Does he eat french fries? Can you make them homemade for him? I have a lot of ideas and you can call me if you need help. Liz >> None of these diets like SCD and GAPS address the sensory issues. If it was as easy as feeding them a healthy diet everyone would be doing it. My son won't even touch most foods. Crys and turns his head all the way around if you hold it up to him. For the most part he will only eat super crispy foods - cereals, crackers, pretzels. Basically crap. It doesn't matter if it is made from

wheat, rice,

corn, or even pork rinds. It just has to be crispy. He has a few exceptions - sometimes apple slices and sometimes orange slices. We have been GFCF for 3 months with no results. That will open up some options for him as he will eat super crispy grilled cheese and french toast made in the waffle iron (makes it thin and less squishy). At least it gets something solid in him and he won't be hungry all the time.> > And no giving him nothing doesn't make him eat. He will starve himself, he will not eat to live if all you give him is mushy food or even just new food.> > I also don't understand how to get enzymes in him. It is no secret that they taste terrible. I have the Enzymedica that you can put in the juice, but that makes it fizzy which he doesn't like.> > I guess I just feel that all these plans oversimplify it. Am I the only one whose kid has a feeding

disorder?> > >

[Guest guest]

Now you know how I am about corn.Please let me know if you find a highly absorbable form of zinc.Chewables won't do it. Subject: Re: Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issuesTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 12:39 PM

I find it impossible to eliminate soy. They seem to put it in almost everything, and since the only things he eats are crispy there is some form of soy in it. I am going to start making my own bread and crackers. Having a harder time finding recipes for not soft pretzels. Not sure if there are soy free cereals out there. My next step is to eliminate as much soy as possible since I know that is an actual problem for him. He used to eat crispy french fries but seems to be bored with them now.

I can try more Zinc, it won't hurt, havent' had much results from supplements either.

Thanks for your time

From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@ yahoo..com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, October 30, 2009 6:51:59 PMSubject: Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issues

, you are certainly not alone. Most the kids that have limited diets need more zinc, I have known people whose DAN! doctors have agreed with this. They are unable to smell and taste the foods, which makes them undesireable. You can put zinc in water by getting it in the liquid ionic form. Here is one that I have used www.kornax.com, it is the brand Angstrom. The GFCFSF diet most definitely eliminates sensory issues IF the inflammation that is causing them is due to food intolerance (which, in my opinion it usually is) but yes, until the problem foods are eliminated, it will be hard to get them to eat the other foods that they tolerate. I suggest the Kid-Friendly GFCF Cookbook. Have you eliminated soy yet? What about artificial colors/flavors and MSG? All these can cause inflammation. My son cannot have any store-bought sauces (ketchup, honey-mustard,

bbq...regardless if it is

GFCF) and still cannot tolerate sugar. I don't give him anything that has natural flavors - which many of the GFCF foods do- or he has a reaction. Does he eat french fries? Can you make them homemade for him? I have a lot of ideas and you can call me if you need help. Liz >> None of these diets like SCD and GAPS address the sensory issues. If it was as easy as feeding them a healthy diet everyone would be doing it. My son won't even touch most foods. Crys and turns his head all the way around if you hold it up to him. For the most part he will only eat super crispy foods - cereals, crackers, pretzels. Basically crap. It doesn't matter if it is made from

wheat, rice,

corn, or even pork rinds. It just has to be crispy. He has a few exceptions - sometimes apple slices and sometimes orange slices. We have been GFCF for 3 months with no results. That will open up some options for him as he will eat super crispy grilled cheese and french toast made in the waffle iron (makes it thin and less squishy). At least it gets something solid in him and he won't be hungry all the time.> > And no giving him nothing doesn't make him eat. He will starve himself, he will not eat to live if all you give him is mushy food or even just new food.> > I also don't understand how to get enzymes in him. It is no secret that they taste terrible. I have the Enzymedica that you can put in the juice, but that makes it fizzy which he doesn't like.> > I guess I just feel that all these plans oversimplify it. Am I the only one whose kid has a feeding

disorder?> > >

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I was out today and I was at a Circle K.I bought a large black coffee.They had an offer of a free Oreo Brownie.So I got one.I ate half of it.Within about ten minutes,I as losing cognitive function,speech,and starting to wander like I used to when I eloped.That was one of the most powerful food reactions I ever had,and it certainly helped explain my behavior in the past.I think it was the combination of ingredients,because I can handle simpler foods with gluten fine. Subject: Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issuesTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 1:25 AM

My son had gluten in regular oatmeal this morning, I forgot it wasn't the GF kind and at first his face turned red and he felt like he had a fever. Then his cuticles were very red and tonight he was complaining that his arm hurt and he was biting it. He also had a staring episode at dinner that I hadn't seen in a long time. To me, these things confirm the need for his special diet.

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> >> None of these diets like SCD and GAPS address the sensory issues. If it was as easy as feeding them a healthy diet everyone would be doing it. My son won't even touch most foods. Crys and turns his head all the way around if you hold it up to him. For the most part he will only eat super crispy foods - cereals, crackers, pretzels. Basically crap. It doesn't matter if it is made from wheat, rice, corn, or even pork rinds. It just has to be crispy. He has a few exceptions - sometimes apple slices and sometimes orange slices. We have been GFCF for 3 months with no results. That will open up some options for him as he will eat super crispy grilled cheese and french toast made in the waffle iron (makes it thin and less squishy). At least it gets something solid in him and he won't be hungry all the time.

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> >> And no giving him nothing doesn't make him eat. He will starve himself, he will not eat to live if all you give him is mushy food or even just new food.

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> >> I also don't understand how to get enzymes in him. It is no secret that they taste terrible. I have the Enzymedica that you can put in the juice, but that makes it fizzy which he doesn't like.

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> >> I guess I just feel that all these plans oversimplify it. Am I the only one whose kid has a feeding disorder?

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Have you tried Kirkman's zinc cream? If so, was it beneficial?

http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/ViewProductDetails@Product_ID@217@Product_Group_ID@1.\

aspx

or http://tinyurl.com/kmanzinc

>

> I am terribly zinc deficient.It's not always diet,it's malabsorption too.

>

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[Guest guest]

elizabeth have you also removed soy?

Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issues

Wouldn't you want to keep him eating the foods he is eating knowing they are GFCF and doing good to heal his body....even if you have to force the syringe down his throat? We have been GFCF for three years and my son still only likes hotdogs (switched to turkey), chips, and the occassional GFCF waffle, hamburger, and chicken....his protein level is always off the charts.

But...I know his gut is healing or healed as we have had infractions after three years and saw nothing (we used to see the red ears, cheeks, loose bowels, stimming, etc.) And if you feel bad 'forcing' a syringe of vegies and fruits down him, then may I suggest trying Juice PLUS. This solved that problem for us and now he readily eats his fruits and vegies. (It is a supplement with over 17 GFCF, Organic certified fruits/vegies) . No, it is not intended to replace F/V in the diet but what are we supposed to do when that is what we are facing with our kids....eventually they will eat them on their own....after 9 months on this product, my son started eating carrots, and now green beans, all fruits, peas....so we are going in the right direction. He is in recovery with some sensory issues still-sure he prefers hot dogs and chips but we are moving in the right direction and I feel good knowing I did not give in.

HTH,

Kersten

www.antioxidativest resswithjuiceplu s.com

Share in the joy of our journey at...www.thefarrellfound ation.org

[Guest guest]

Sounds like my kind of diet.

>

> I have never been on any diets.I only recently learned there is a whole world

beyond GFCF.Just as there is not one cause for autism,there is no one diet that

would work for everybody.I have only learned about the GAPS diet today,and it

looks like it's perfect. Except I have not seen any instructions about how to

start it ,with adults or older children.I would be looking at a modified version

of it,because I can do the gluten,but I can't do the cheese,coconut oil, or

beans with my GI problems.

> I can't see how they allow gin,vodka,and wine.

>                                     

>

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No.Never heard of it before. Subject: Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issuesTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 8:47 PM

Have you tried Kirkman's zinc cream? If so, was it beneficial?

http://www.kirkmanl abs.com/ViewProd uctDetails@ Product_ID@ 217@Product_ Group_ID@ 1.aspx

or http://tinyurl. com/kmanzinc

>

> I am terribly zinc deficient.It' s not always diet,it's malabsorption too.

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No.Never heard of it before. Subject: Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issuesTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 8:47 PM

Have you tried Kirkman's zinc cream? If so, was it beneficial?

http://www.kirkmanl abs.com/ViewProd uctDetails@ Product_ID@ 217@Product_ Group_ID@ 1.aspx

or http://tinyurl. com/kmanzinc

>

> I am terribly zinc deficient.It' s not always diet,it's malabsorption too.

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

No.Never heard of it before. Subject: Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issuesTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 8:47 PM

Have you tried Kirkman's zinc cream? If so, was it beneficial?

http://www.kirkmanl abs.com/ViewProd uctDetails@ Product_ID@ 217@Product_ Group_ID@ 1.aspx

or http://tinyurl. com/kmanzinc

>

> I am terribly zinc deficient.It' s not always diet,it's malabsorption too.

>

>

>

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The GAPS diet is basically SCD although I do believe GAPS allows dairy. There is an intro diet. I believe it's also basically the SCD intro. I do know that the Dr. on GAPSdiet.com is available for phone consults. She's in the UK and I think the charge is something like $75. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ I have never been on any diets.I only recently learned there is a whole world beyond GFCF.Just as there is not one cause for autism,there is no one diet that would work for everybody.I have only learned about the GAPS diet today,and it looks like it's perfect. Except I have not seen any instructions about how to start it ,with adults or older children.I would be looking at a modified version of it,because I can do the gluten,but I can't do the cheese,coconut oil, or beans with my GI problems.I can't see how they allow gin,vodka,and wine. From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: Diets sound great if your not dealing with sensory issuesTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Friday, October 30, 2009, 5:51 PM , you are certainly not alone. Most the kids that have limited diets need more zinc, I have known people whose DAN! doctors have agreed with this. They are unable to smell and taste the foods, which makes them undesireable. You can put zinc in water by getting it in the liquid ionic form. Here is one that I have used www.kornax.com, it is the brand Angstrom. The GFCFSF diet most definitely eliminates sensory issues IF the inflammation that is causing them is due to food intolerance (which, in my opinion it usually is) but yes, until the problem foods are eliminated, it will be hard to get them to eat the other foods that they tolerate. I suggest the Kid-Friendly GFCF Cookbook. Have you eliminated soy yet? What about artificial colors/flavors and MSG? All these can cause inflammation. My son cannot have any store-bought sauces (ketchup, honey-mustard, bbq...regardless if it is GFCF) and still cannot tolerate sugar. I don't give him anything that has natural flavors - which many of the GFCF foods do- or he has a reaction. Does he eat french fries? Can you make them homemade for him? I have a lot of ideas and you can call me if you need help. Liz >> None of these diets like SCD and GAPS address the sensory issues. If it was as easy as feeding them a healthy diet everyone would be doing it. My son won't even touch most foods. Crys and turns his head all the way around if you hold it up to him. For the most part he will only eat super crispy foods - cereals, crackers, pretzels. Basically crap. It doesn't matter if it is made from wheat, rice, corn, or even pork rinds. It just has to be crispy. He has a few exceptions - sometimes apple slices and sometimes orange slices. We have been GFCF for 3 months with no results. That will open up some options for him as he will eat super crispy grilled cheese and french toast made in the waffle iron (makes it thin and less squishy). At least it gets something solid in him and he won't be hungry all the time.> > And no giving him nothing doesn't make him eat. He will starve himself, he will not eat to live if all you give him is mushy food or even just new food.> > I also don't understand how to get enzymes in him. It is no secret that they taste terrible. I have the Enzymedica that you can put in the juice, but that makes it fizzy which he doesn't like.> > I guess I just feel that all these plans oversimplify it. Am I the only one whose kid has a feeding disorder?> > >

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, have you ever tried pinching your index finger or putting pressure on the

gums directly above your two front teeth for relief? As strange as it sounds,

it helps my son.

These spots are on the large intestine meridian (Chinese). Photo here:

http://tinyurl.com/yzn37tj

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was as easy as feeding them a healthy diet everyone would be doing it.  My son

won't even touch most foods.  Crys and turns his head all the way around if you

hold it up to him.  For the most part he will only eat super crispy foods -

cereals, crackers, pretzels.  Basically crap.  It doesn't matter if it is made

from wheat, rice, corn, or even pork rinds.  It just has to be crispy.  He has a

few exceptions - sometimes apple slices and sometimes orange slices.  We have

been GFCF for 3 months with no results.  That will open up some options for him

as he will eat super crispy grilled cheese and french toast made in the waffle

iron (makes it thin and less squishy).  At least it gets something solid in him

and he won't be hungry all the time.

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There is a GAPS Yahoo group called Gapshelp. You don't have to do any of the

things you listed as problems. Baden, the moderator for the Yahoo group, has

written a GAPS guide that helps with FAQs, getting started, and other things.

There is an intro diet that is very helpful.

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> > I have never been on any diets.I only recently learned there is a whole

world beyond GFCF.Just as there is not one cause for autism,there is no one diet

that would work for everybody.I have only learned about the GAPS diet today,and

it looks like it's perfect. Except I have not seen any instructions about how to

start it ,with adults or older children.I would be looking at a modified version

of it,because I can do the gluten,but I can't do the cheese,coconut oil, or

beans with my GI problems.

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Talking from my own experience. 10 years ago when I stopped eating wheat and

corn products. I was pain free withing 2 weeks. My son who has sensory issues

cannot digest soy just like your child. Interesting...

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> > None of these diets like SCD and GAPS address the sensory issues.  If it was

as easy as feeding them a healthy diet everyone would be doing it.  My son won't

even touch most foods.  Crys and turns his head all the way around if you hold

it up to him.  For the most part he will only eat super crispy foods - cereals,

crackers, pretzels.  Basically crap.  It doesn't matter if it is made from

wheat, rice, corn, or even pork rinds.  It just has to be crispy.  He has a few

exceptions - sometimes apple slices and sometimes orange slices.  We have been

GFCF for 3 months with no results.  That will open up some options for him as he

will eat super crispy grilled cheese and french toast made in the waffle iron

(makes it thin and less squishy).  At least it gets something solid in him and

he won't be hungry all the time.

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> > And no giving him nothing doesn't make him eat.  He will starve himself, he

will not eat to live if all you give him is mushy food or even just new food.

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> > I also don't understand how to get enzymes in him.  It is no secret that

they taste terrible.  I have the Enzymedica that you can put in the juice, but

that makes it fizzy which he doesn't like.

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> > I guess I just feel that all these plans oversimplify it.  Am I the only one

whose kid has a feeding disorder?

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