Re: Re: verbal stimming

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Carnitine is used for mito dysfunction.The other two things I have never heard of.Does anybody know any more about how these work for apraxia,or what dose to use ? Do you need all three? Are these just for speech.or can they be used for nonverbal forms of apraxia? I have been told over and over again that occupational therapy is the only treatment for nonverbal apraxias. From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: verbal stimmingTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 11:10 PM Hi Karmen, My 11 year old used to do this and I just called him up from the basement to ask him why he did it. At first he smiled and said it was a "weird habit", but then when I said, "well did it do something for you?" he said "it helped my pronunciation.

" So there you have it...they are just practicing!! (BTW, he is completely typical now. I have only heard him do this a few times in the last couple years and I can't say why, I just point it out to him and we laugh.)Liz>> My 7 yr. old daughter has a verbal stim that is becoming more pronounced. She talks under her breath, in a whisper tone, nearly all the time. I can hear her doing this whether I'm in the same room as her or in another room in the house. It seems that she can't help it, or stop herself for more than a few moments. She does this even when someone is speaking, either to her or to someone else nearby. It is constant, from the time she wakes up until she

goes to sleep. She is verbal, but does not have typical spontaneous speech. She answers questions, makes requests, can tell you an event that occurred during the day, but again, not spontaneous conversational speech. Her comprehension is delayed, and often when I hear her talking in that whisper tone, what she is saying doesn't make sense to me, just a few words mixed with sounds strung together. When I ask her what she said, she will repeat it for me ("go tell them", "cross the street", etc.) and even try to give me an explanation of what her 'phrase' meant. > > Does this sound familiar to anyone else? Any suggestions or advice would be GREATLY appreciated. I am at my wits end with this.> > Karmen>

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what kind of Occupational therapy will help nonverbal apraxia?

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:32:42 AMSubject: Re: Re: verbal stimming

Carnitine is used for mito dysfunction. The other two things I have never heard of.Does anybody know any more about how these work for apraxia,or what dose to use ? Do you need all three? Are these just for speech.or can they be used for nonverbal forms of apraxia? I have been told over and over again that occupational therapy is the only treatment for nonverbal apraxias.

From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: verbal stimmingTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 11:10 PM

Hi Karmen, My 11 year old used to do this and I just called him up from the basement to ask him why he did it. At first he smiled and said it was a "weird habit", but then when I said, "well did it do something for you?" he said "it helped my pronunciation. " So there you have it...they are just practicing!! (BTW, he is completely typical now. I have only heard him do this a few times in the last couple years and I can't say why, I just point it out to him and we laugh.)Liz>> My 7 yr. old daughter has a verbal stim that is becoming more pronounced. She talks under her breath, in a whisper tone, nearly all the time. I can hear

her doing this whether I'm in the same room as her or in another room in the house. It seems that she can't help it, or stop herself for more than a few moments. She does this even when someone is speaking, either to her or to someone else nearby. It is constant, from the time she wakes up until she goes to sleep. She is verbal, but does not have typical spontaneous speech. She answers questions, makes requests, can tell you an event that occurred during the day, but again, not spontaneous conversational speech. Her comprehension is delayed, and often when I hear her talking in that whisper tone, what she is saying doesn't make sense to me, just a few words mixed with sounds strung together. When I ask her what she said, she will repeat it for me ("go tell them", "cross the street", etc.) and even try to give me an explanation of what her 'phrase' meant. > > Does this sound familiar to anyone else? Any suggestions or advice would be GREATLY appreciated. I am at my wits end with this.> > Karmen>

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Be careful you don't peg supplements into just one purpose. While carnitine is used for mito, many many parents find that this helps motor skills, it may be that the underlying reason is mito issues that are being addressed but helping motor function is still an outcome. Piracetam and aniracetam help cognitive functioning which allows for better mind/muscle processing connections (but you need to take phosphotidyl choline with them). SAMe also helps with the cognitive functioning and also is a methylator. You may have been told that OT is the only thing you can do but I'm guessing you've also been told that biomed doesn't work. These things seem to especially help fine motor. If I get a chance, I'll see if I can dig through my notes and see what else helps motor function.Yes you can take all three but you don't have to. You can just as easily try one at a time and see how it goes. And you don't necessarily need to take piracetam and aniracetam both. You could just do one. Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ Carnitine is used for mito dysfunction.The other two things I have never heard of.Does anybody know any more about how these work for apraxia,or what dose to use ? Do you need all three? Are these just for speech.or can they be used for nonverbal forms of apraxia? I have been told over and over again that occupational therapy is the only treatment for nonverbal apraxias. From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: verbal stimmingTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 11:10 PM Hi Karmen, My 11 year old used to do this and I just called him up from the basement to ask him why he did it. At first he smiled and said it was a "weird habit", but then when I said, "well did it do something for you?" he said "it helped my pronunciation. " So there you have it...they are just practicing!! (BTW, he is completely typical now. I have only heard him do this a few times in the last couple years and I can't say why, I just point it out to him and we laugh.)Liz>> My 7 yr. old daughter has a verbal stim that is becoming more pronounced. She talks under her breath, in a whisper tone, nearly all the time. I can hear her doing this whether I'm in the same room as her or in another room in the house. It seems that she can't help it, or stop herself for more than a few moments. She does this even when someone is speaking, either to her or to someone else nearby. It is constant, from the time she wakes up until she goes to sleep. She is verbal, but does not have typical spontaneous speech. She answers questions, makes requests, can tell you an event that occurred during the day, but again, not spontaneous conversational speech. Her comprehension is delayed, and often when I hear her talking in that whisper tone, what she is saying doesn't make sense to me, just a few words mixed with sounds strung together. When I ask her what she said, she will repeat it for me ("go tell them", "cross the street", etc.) and even try to give me an explanation of what her 'phrase' meant. > > Does this sound familiar to anyone else? Any suggestions or advice would be GREATLY appreciated. I am at my wits end with this.> > Karmen>

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I have a bottle of NOW L-carnitine.I'll start tomorrow.I use prescription leucovorin,so I don't need the SAMe.I have methylation problems.Of the two,which is better,the carnosine or the piracetam? From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: verbal stimmingTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Saturday, October 31,

2009, 11:10 PM Hi Karmen, My 11 year old used to do this and I just called him up from the basement to ask him why he did it. At first he smiled and said it was a "weird habit", but then when I said, "well did it do something for you?" he said "it helped my pronunciation. " So there you have it...they are just practicing!! (BTW, he is completely typical now. I have only heard him do this a few times in the last couple years and I can't say why, I just point it out to him and we laugh.)Liz>> My 7 yr. old daughter has

a verbal stim that is becoming more pronounced. She talks under her breath, in a whisper tone, nearly all the time. I can hear her doing this whether I'm in the same room as her or in another room in the house. It seems that she can't help it, or stop herself for more than a few moments. She does this even when someone is speaking, either to her or to someone else nearby. It is constant, from the time she wakes up until she goes to sleep. She is verbal, but does not have typical spontaneous speech. She answers questions, makes requests, can tell you an event that occurred during the day, but again, not spontaneous conversational speech. Her comprehension is delayed, and often when I hear her talking in that whisper tone, what she is saying doesn't make sense to me, just a few words mixed with sounds strung together. When I ask her what she said, she will repeat it for me ("go tell them", "cross the street", etc.) and even try to give me an explanation

of what her 'phrase' meant. > > Does this sound familiar to anyone else? Any suggestions or advice would be GREATLY appreciated. I am at my wits end with this.> > Karmen>

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I think in your situation I would try the piracetam first. You need to take a phosphotidyl choline once a day tho or you may end up with a killer headache after 2 or 3 days. It is a choline depleter so it's usually necessary to have that on board. My husband forgot to take some with him out of town and decided (AMA - against mom's advice!) to take it anyway. He has never had a migraine before and he ended up in the ER because he thought he was dying. Lol! He has never done it again... Cheryl~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~@midian42~ I have a bottle of NOW L-carnitine.I'll start tomorrow.I use prescription leucovorin,so I don't need the SAMe.I have methylation problems.Of the two,which is better,the carnosine or the piracetam? From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: verbal stimmingTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 11:10 PM Hi Karmen, My 11 year old used to do this and I just called him up from the basement to ask him why he did it. At first he smiled and said it was a "weird habit", but then when I said, "well did it do something for you?" he said "it helped my pronunciation. " So there you have it...they are just practicing!! (BTW, he is completely typical now. I have only heard him do this a few times in the last couple years and I can't say why, I just point it out to him and we laugh.)Liz>> My 7 yr. old daughter has a verbal stim that is becoming more pronounced. She talks under her breath, in a whisper tone, nearly all the time. I can hear her doing this whether I'm in the same room as her or in another room in the house. It seems that she can't help it, or stop herself for more than a few moments. She does this even when someone is speaking, either to her or to someone else nearby. It is constant, from the time she wakes up until she goes to sleep. She is verbal, but does not have typical spontaneous speech. She answers questions, makes requests, can tell you an event that occurred during the day, but again, not spontaneous conversational speech. Her comprehension is delayed, and often when I hear her talking in that whisper tone, what she is saying doesn't make sense to me, just a few words mixed with sounds strung together. When I ask her what she said, she will repeat it for me ("go tell them", "cross the street", etc.) and even try to give me an explanation of what her 'phrase' meant. > > Does this sound familiar to anyone else? Any suggestions or advice would be GREATLY appreciated. I am at my wits end with this.> > Karmen>

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La la la la lump in my oatmeal.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ3eiaK6LAUHappy 40th guys.Subject: Re: verbal stimmingTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 11:09 AM

I found that manipulating my son's mouth with my hands helped and also doing silly things that would make him exercise his mouth to be more comfortable in positions he needed to use to make certain sounds.

For example, show the child the "mmm" sound with your fingers flat over your lips. Ask them to copy or use their hand to cover their mouth and go "mmm". Another example, practice sticking tongue out and be silly like you are teasing each other. Then stick tongue out and sing "la la la la light bulb, la la la la lamp post" (that's a Sesame Street Bert and Ernie song, but you can make up any song that's silly and he/she likes).

Spend time looking in a mirror and making faces. Click and cluck and blow and do all different sounds and noises. The more exercise their mouth gets the better. Other exercises are sucking a thick smoothie through a straw (strengthens facial muscles), blowing cotton balls (racing them with someone else?).

Use a microphone on a low volume and do karaoke or get one of those microphones that makes your voice sound funny.

Make the child say sounds in order to get what he/she wants. For example say "p" or "pop" for popcicle, repeat and be funny.

I don't have money for therapy out of the school setting, so I have to read, read, read. I also ask the therapists at school if I run out of ideas or if I'm stuck and can't get my son to respond.

Good luck!

Liz

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La la la la lump in my oatmeal.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ3eiaK6LAUHappy 40th guys.Subject: Re: verbal stimmingTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 11:09 AM

I found that manipulating my son's mouth with my hands helped and also doing silly things that would make him exercise his mouth to be more comfortable in positions he needed to use to make certain sounds.

For example, show the child the "mmm" sound with your fingers flat over your lips. Ask them to copy or use their hand to cover their mouth and go "mmm". Another example, practice sticking tongue out and be silly like you are teasing each other. Then stick tongue out and sing "la la la la light bulb, la la la la lamp post" (that's a Sesame Street Bert and Ernie song, but you can make up any song that's silly and he/she likes).

Spend time looking in a mirror and making faces. Click and cluck and blow and do all different sounds and noises. The more exercise their mouth gets the better. Other exercises are sucking a thick smoothie through a straw (strengthens facial muscles), blowing cotton balls (racing them with someone else?).

Use a microphone on a low volume and do karaoke or get one of those microphones that makes your voice sound funny.

Make the child say sounds in order to get what he/she wants. For example say "p" or "pop" for popcicle, repeat and be funny.

I don't have money for therapy out of the school setting, so I have to read, read, read. I also ask the therapists at school if I run out of ideas or if I'm stuck and can't get my son to respond.

Good luck!

Liz

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La la la la lump in my oatmeal.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ3eiaK6LAUHappy 40th guys.Subject: Re: verbal stimmingTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 11:09 AM

I found that manipulating my son's mouth with my hands helped and also doing silly things that would make him exercise his mouth to be more comfortable in positions he needed to use to make certain sounds.

For example, show the child the "mmm" sound with your fingers flat over your lips. Ask them to copy or use their hand to cover their mouth and go "mmm". Another example, practice sticking tongue out and be silly like you are teasing each other. Then stick tongue out and sing "la la la la light bulb, la la la la lamp post" (that's a Sesame Street Bert and Ernie song, but you can make up any song that's silly and he/she likes).

Spend time looking in a mirror and making faces. Click and cluck and blow and do all different sounds and noises. The more exercise their mouth gets the better. Other exercises are sucking a thick smoothie through a straw (strengthens facial muscles), blowing cotton balls (racing them with someone else?).

Use a microphone on a low volume and do karaoke or get one of those microphones that makes your voice sound funny.

Make the child say sounds in order to get what he/she wants. For example say "p" or "pop" for popcicle, repeat and be funny.

I don't have money for therapy out of the school setting, so I have to read, read, read. I also ask the therapists at school if I run out of ideas or if I'm stuck and can't get my son to respond.

Good luck!

Liz

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> >>>>>> My 7 yr. old daughter has a verbal stim that is becoming more pronounced. She talks under her breath, in a whisper tone, nearly all the time. I can hear her doing this whether I'm in the same room as her or in another room in the house. It seems that she can't help it, or stop herself for more than a few moments. She does this even when someone is speaking, either to her or to someone else nearby. It is constant, from the time she wakes up until she goes to sleep. She is verbal, but does not have typical spontaneous speech. She answers questions, makes requests, can tell you an event that occurred during the day, but again, not spontaneous conversational speech. Her comprehension is delayed, and often when I hear her talking in that whisper tone, what she is saying doesn't make sense to me, just a few words mixed with sounds strung together. When I ask her what she said, she will repeat it for me ("go tell them", "cross the

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Not sure at this point.Anybody know?

From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: verbal stimmingTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 11:10 PM

Hi Karmen, My 11 year old used to do this and I just called him up from the basement to ask him why he did it. At first he smiled and said it was a "weird habit", but then when I said, "well did it do something for you?" he said "it helped my pronunciation. " So there you have it...they are just practicing!! (BTW, he is completely typical now. I have only heard him do this a few times in the last couple years and I can't say why, I just point it out to him and we laugh.)Liz>> My 7 yr. old daughter has a verbal stim that is becoming more pronounced. She talks under her breath, in a whisper tone, nearly all the time.

I can hear

her doing this whether I'm in the same room as her or in another room in the house. It seems that she can't help it, or stop herself for more than a few moments. She does this even when someone is speaking, either to her or to someone else nearby. It is constant, from the time she wakes up until she goes to sleep. She is verbal, but does not have typical spontaneous speech. She answers questions, makes requests, can tell you an event that occurred during the day, but again, not spontaneous conversational speech. Her comprehension is delayed, and often when I hear her talking in that whisper tone, what she is saying doesn't make sense to me, just a few words mixed with sounds strung together. When I ask her what she said, she will repeat it for me ("go tell them", "cross the street", etc.) and even try to give me an explanation of what her 'phrase' meant. > > Does this sound familiar to anyone else? Any suggestions or advice would be GREATLY appreciated. I am at my wits end with this.> > Karmen>

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Not sure at this point.Anybody know?

From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: verbal stimmingTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 11:10 PM

Hi Karmen, My 11 year old used to do this and I just called him up from the basement to ask him why he did it. At first he smiled and said it was a "weird habit", but then when I said, "well did it do something for you?" he said "it helped my pronunciation. " So there you have it...they are just practicing!! (BTW, he is completely typical now. I have only heard him do this a few times in the last couple years and I can't say why, I just point it out to him and we laugh.)Liz>> My 7 yr. old daughter has a verbal stim that is becoming more pronounced. She talks under her breath, in a whisper tone, nearly all the time.

I can hear

her doing this whether I'm in the same room as her or in another room in the house. It seems that she can't help it, or stop herself for more than a few moments. She does this even when someone is speaking, either to her or to someone else nearby. It is constant, from the time she wakes up until she goes to sleep. She is verbal, but does not have typical spontaneous speech. She answers questions, makes requests, can tell you an event that occurred during the day, but again, not spontaneous conversational speech. Her comprehension is delayed, and often when I hear her talking in that whisper tone, what she is saying doesn't make sense to me, just a few words mixed with sounds strung together. When I ask her what she said, she will repeat it for me ("go tell them", "cross the street", etc.) and even try to give me an explanation of what her 'phrase' meant. > > Does this sound familiar to anyone else? Any suggestions or advice would be GREATLY appreciated. I am at my wits end with this.> > Karmen>

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Not sure at this point.Anybody know?

From: Liz <elizabethsoliday@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: verbal stimmingTo: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comDate: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 11:10 PM

Hi Karmen, My 11 year old used to do this and I just called him up from the basement to ask him why he did it. At first he smiled and said it was a "weird habit", but then when I said, "well did it do something for you?" he said "it helped my pronunciation. " So there you have it...they are just practicing!! (BTW, he is completely typical now. I have only heard him do this a few times in the last couple years and I can't say why, I just point it out to him and we laugh.)Liz>> My 7 yr. old daughter has a verbal stim that is becoming more pronounced. She talks under her breath, in a whisper tone, nearly all the time.

I can hear

her doing this whether I'm in the same room as her or in another room in the house. It seems that she can't help it, or stop herself for more than a few moments. She does this even when someone is speaking, either to her or to someone else nearby. It is constant, from the time she wakes up until she goes to sleep. She is verbal, but does not have typical spontaneous speech. She answers questions, makes requests, can tell you an event that occurred during the day, but again, not spontaneous conversational speech. Her comprehension is delayed, and often when I hear her talking in that whisper tone, what she is saying doesn't make sense to me, just a few words mixed with sounds strung together. When I ask her what she said, she will repeat it for me ("go tell them", "cross the street", etc.) and even try to give me an explanation of what her 'phrase' meant. > > Does this sound familiar to anyone else? Any suggestions or advice would be GREATLY appreciated. I am at my wits end with this.> > Karmen>

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I know about the mito cocktail.I think you can pick and choose what you need from it,even if you don't have mito problems.Fatigue in my case,is due to anemia,for example. Subject: Re: verbal stimmingTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 8:12 AM

, I know of a woman who tried "Mito Cell Support" from Kirkman Labs for her grandchildren with autism and she thinks it's great. It is a less expensive way to try the recommended supplements in a "mito cocktail".

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if PANDAS stuff was high that means he has PANDAS,. so treating will make a difference in your childs life BIG TIME>< our son can seem completely normal when it's treated and when autism tested after OTHER biomedical stuff and doing well and NOT being in a flare lost his label. we have retested IN a flare and he is right back on stecturm with JUST PANDAS.....

for egg replacer there is something called egg sub from energy foods that you can use with carbonated water and it works great. we have been egg free for 6.5 years and cook anything we need with it other then scrambled eggs...hehe

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I agree completely, my son was GFCF for 8 months without much change in him at all, I wanted to give up severals times but reintroduction of gluten and casein made him worse. I followed the advice of a grandma on another board to take out more foods and it was what was needed, he improved. So not only GFCF, but the other food ingredients found in vaccines: soy, MSG, yeast, chicken eggs had to be eliminated. He still eats eggs sometimes but prefers not to, we try to get duck eggs but they are hard to find this time of year. My son now avoids BY HIMSELF all his problem foods because he knows their effects. When you get to the point where you have eliminated the inflammation, the child actually starts to realize and feel that they have reactions to certain things. This is where you want to get, where the child has self-maintenance of a diet that feels good to him or her.> > > > >> > > > > My 7 yr. old daughter has a verbal stim that is becoming more pronounced. She talks under her breath, in a whisper tone, nearly all the time. I can hear her doing this whether I'm in the same room as her or in another room in the house. It seems that she can't help it, or stop herself for more than a few moments. She does this even when someone is speaking, either to her or to someone else nearby. It is constant, from the time she wakes up until she goes to sleep. She is verbal, but does not have typical spontaneous speech. She answers questions, makes requests, can tell you an event that occurred during the day, but again, not spontaneous conversational speech. Her comprehension is delayed, and often when I hear her talking in that whisper tone, what she is saying doesn't make sense to me, just a few words mixed with sounds strung together. When I ask her what she said, she will repeat it for me ("go tell them", "cross the street", etc) and even try to give me an explanation of what her 'phrase' meant. > > > > > > > > > > Does this sound familiar to anyone else? Any suggestions or advice would be GREATLY appreciated. I am at my wits end with this.> > > > > > > > > > Karmen> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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you can do pancakes egg free, if eggs have been an issue I would RETRY cereals. if it was btohering him he will start to eat new things! have you tried HOT cereals? chia? buckwheat? tapioca pudding? quinoa? teff? cold cereal

Re: verbal stimming

You might consider removing eggs for 2 weeks and then if you bring back rotate them. Use good eggs, free range or duck/quail eggs too. We've found a local chicken farmer with good practices and my kids can go get their own eggs now. The kids are reacting so a good idea to stay out of patterns. Chicken everday, eggs, anything really in a reactive kid will cause inflammation. You can use soaked flax seeds to replace eggs. They'll gel up and act as a binder. We kept eggs out for about 2 years, then brought them in and rotated. I still try to rotate, but not as careful as it's not necessary any longer. We eat lots of vegetables. We strive for 80% at each meal. > > > > > >> > > > > > My 7 yr. old daughter has a verbal stim that is becoming more pronounced. She talks under her breath, in a whisper tone, nearly all the time. I can hear her doing this whether I'm in the same room as her or in another room in the house. It seems that she can't help it, or stop herself for more than a few moments. She does this even when someone is speaking, either to her or to someone else nearby. It is constant, from the time she wakes up until she goes to sleep. She is verbal, but does not have typical spontaneous speech. She answers questions, makes requests, can tell you an event that occurred during the day, but again, not spontaneous conversational speech. Her comprehension is delayed, and often when I hear her talking in that whisper tone, what she is saying doesn't make sense to me, just a few words mixed with sounds strung together. When I ask her what she said, she will repeat it for me ("go tell them", "cross the street", etc) and even try to give me an explanation of what her 'phrase' meant. > > > > > > > > > > > > Does this sound familiar to anyone else? Any suggestions or advice would be GREATLY appreciated. I am at my wits end with this.> > > > > > > > > > > > Karmen> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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yes this is why I tell EVERYONE to rotate foods, it helps to cut back on NEW allergies popping up, ever sence we rotated we have been able to ADD things in and stopped the pulling more things OUT

Re: verbal stimming

Get food allergy testing. We were GFCF and recovered from the stimming and quirkiness soon after implimenting it,,,,,,, then he regressed and we did allergy testing... He was allergic to eggs.... We took the eggs out and he recovered nicely again....... about 6 months later we saw regression and his teacher told me that he smelled like corn dogs. (the day before he had eaten loads of corn tortilla tacos) I took him in for allergy testing and sure enough, he was allergic to corn. We took the corn out and he recovered nicely. Since then I have noticed that he sometimes gets goofy after chicken. I also started to question peanut butter and quinoa as we get reactions to those now. So,,, we are GFCF, corn free, egg free, chicken free, peanut free, soy free, quinoa free. He is on enzymes with everymeal and that has really balanced things out.I highly suggest allergy testing....... even if it is just the pokey kind. My kid had corn and egg show up on the pokeys.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > My 7 yr. old daughter has a verbal stim that is becoming more pronounced. She talks under her breath, in a whisper tone, nearly all the time. I can hear her doing this whether I'm in the same room as her or in another room in the house. It seems that she can't help it, or stop herself for more than a few moments. She does this even when someone is speaking, either to her or to someone else nearby. It is constant, from the time she wakes up until she goes to sleep. She is verbal, but does not have typical spontaneous speech. She answers questions, makes requests, can tell you an event that occurred during the day, but again, not spontaneous conversational speech. Her comprehension is delayed, and often when I hear her talking in that whisper tone, what she is saying doesn't make sense to me, just a few words mixed with sounds strung together. When I ask her what she said, she will repeat it for me ("go tell them", "cross the street", etc) and even try to give me an explanation of what her 'phrase' meant. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does this sound familiar to anyone else? Any suggestions or advice would be GREATLY appreciated. I am at my wits end with this.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karmen> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>