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Hi Jim,

I too have a brother who was dx with CC on 12/02. He had since went

through 2 operations (colon and liver resections) and 7 cycles of CTP-

11/5FU/Leu. In Nov, his CT-Scan showed 2 tumors surfaced on his

liver. He then joined the Phase III clinical trial of Oxal/Leu/5FU

and PTK787/ZK. Yesterday was his 2nd cycle of treatment so we don't

know the CEA result yet. The first week was a bit rough (3rd and 4th

days, probably because he didn't take any side affect control drugs).

The only major problems my brother had seemed to be heartburn

(feeling of indigestion) and hiccups. His hemoglobin & WBC are still

in the normal ranges (except his platelet count a bit low, which I

want to ask the group later on a different message). The PTK pills

are taken daily, and he seems to have taken the 'real' ones. He had

tremandous heartburn and nausea 2 hours after taken the pill

everytime, so the onc prescribed him some acid control drug and that

seemed to help. To go on this trial, I think your brother may need to

have the PICC line (i.e. port) installed. That is for the 22 hours of

continuous 5FU transfusion.

Other than the above information, I don't really know about the onc

decision on chemo first before radiation, or whether L4 tumor is

operatable. Maybe someone else from the group would be able to help.

If I find anything more, I will let you know. In the meantime, you

may want to check out message #7601 and #7602 where provided me

some links to some helpful information on PTK787/ZK

Hope this helps and best wishes,

Loc

> Hello, I'm new to group but have been monitoring messages for some

> time now.

>

> My Brother (45) dx with colon cancer on 7/03, 13 out 13 lymph nodes

> involved, met to a nodal area near L4. He has went through 6 cylces

> of CPT-11 Xeloda. His CEA dropped from 20 prior to surgery down to

> 1.6 then his last CEA count went to 11.9, his last scans showed the

> tumor near the L4 has doubled in size (5cm), but no spread to liver

> or lungs. Onc wants to switch to phase III trail using oxaliplatin

> w/ 5FU, PTK787/ZK. Onc did not want to do radiation, until after

the

> oxaliplatin treatment. Has any one had experience with this? Can

> surgery remove his L4 tumor?

>

> Any response would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

> Jim

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here is the link to the clinical trial information with PTK787/ZK

that provided me last time

http://tinyurl.com/xwwy

As for getting the 'real thing' and not placebo, that was just our

guesses. Out of the 3 patients taking the pills, onc nurse said that

my brother was the only one complained about the heartburn (all night

when he took the pill around 6pm) and nausea (about 2 hour after

taken the pill, every time), so onc prescribed him some acid control

drug to ease the affects. Regardless, I believe mentally would help

too if he thinks he is getting the real ones.

btw, Happy New Year everyone,

Loc

> What is The PTK/757/PK You mentioned he got the real thing not a

placebo.

> We are at sea about tht? Nick is on Oxiliplatin,5FU/LV/+Avastin. He

is

> currently

> wearing an infussion pack(66 hrs) goes back the 2nd to disconnect.

Avastin

> alone

> does nothing. He had 10 5FU/LV/CPT!!/+AVASTIN IT WOKED FOR A WHILE

> STOPPED. He had no radiation and only one inital resection. However

he had 9

> positive nodes and this is his 4th port-o-cath and fourth go round

on chemo

> His

> once did mention Xeloda but that would stop his trial on Avastin.

Hope you

> stay well

> Happy as Possible New Year. Faith,hope and health Hugs and prayers

Nick & Jane

>

>

>

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Thank you Loc,

My brother went into visit the Trial Nurse on New Years Eve, he had a

chest X-Ray, EKG and Blood work, he will get his port in on 1/6 and

begin treatment on 1/8.

Jim

> > Hello, I'm new to group but have been monitoring messages for

some

> > time now.

> >

> > My Brother (45) dx with colon cancer on 7/03, 13 out 13 lymph

nodes

> > involved, met to a nodal area near L4. He has went through 6

cylces

> > of CPT-11 Xeloda. His CEA dropped from 20 prior to surgery down

to

> > 1.6 then his last CEA count went to 11.9, his last scans showed

the

> > tumor near the L4 has doubled in size (5cm), but no spread to

liver

> > or lungs. Onc wants to switch to phase III trail using

oxaliplatin

> > w/ 5FU, PTK787/ZK. Onc did not want to do radiation, until after

> the

> > oxaliplatin treatment. Has any one had experience with this? Can

> > surgery remove his L4 tumor?

> >

> > Any response would be appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Jim

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