Re: Went to the water park today

July 5, 2007

Amen Nan!! I feel the same way. I love my little natural boobies.

They are all mine and I am proud of them. They are super soft and

natural.

Lynn

>

> and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very down to earth

but

> there are sure are a lot of implants out there! Really makes me

sad

> because all I could think in seeing them was that they are all

ticking

> time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my natural breasts

and

> what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to have them out.

> Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan

>

July 5, 2007

Hi Nan,

Sounds like you had a good day and I'm so happy for

you. I know you've been through so much and I wish

there was something I could do for you.

I will keep you in my prayers for good healing, peace

and happiness.

Love & hugs,

Traci

--- nnnttwilliams <nnnttwilliams@...> wrote:

> and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very

> down to earth but

> there are sure are a lot of implants out there!

> Really makes me sad

> because all I could think in seeing them was that

> they are all ticking

> time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my

> natural breasts and

> what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to

> have them out.

> Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan

>

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July 6, 2007

Hello,

I just joined this group because I am seriously considering getting

saline implants. I am 48 years old and have a good body but would

love to have the very full beautiful breasts to go w/it. I have been

contemplating implants for at least 10 years now so this would not be

a spur of the momemt decision.

I have read all kinds of horror stories about autoimune disease and

such but to be honest everyone (at least 20 people) I know has had

implants from ranges of 1-20 years and not one of these women has had

any kind of complaint whatsoever. They feel perfect as well as

looking incredible. I feel very bad for the woman who have had

problems but I am wondering if they would have eventually have gotten

sick even if they did not receive the implants. The surgeons I spoke

with told me that there is no scientific link at all between the two.

(and the friends I have who are in perfect health seem to be evidence

that they are correct in that statement.

I am seeing a very well know surgeon next week and may just decide to

bit the bullet.

Thank you.

Laurie

>

> and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very down to earth

but

> there are sure are a lot of implants out there! Really makes me sad

> because all I could think in seeing them was that they are all

ticking

> time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my natural breasts

and

> what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to have them out.

> Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan

>

July 6, 2007

Laurie,

I truly understand your mentality. Before I got mine done, I had those very same thoughts and wonders...

That was about 9 years ago when I was just 19 years old. I was super healthy... was a trainer at a gym, competed in fitness competitions, (played soccer, basketball, track, and cheerleading in school) and was even FINE for the first 6 years being implanted! When I started to get sick, I had NO IDEA it was due to my implants!!! Why WOULD I??? I had had NO PROBLEMS for SIX YEARS!!! Besides, it did not SEAM linked!

I started getting very weak and tired, stomach problems, burning/tingling sensations, dizziness & lightheaded, shaking & trembling, cold sweats, blackouts, heart palpitations, irregular heartbeat & racing heartbeat, shortness of breath, low blood sugar... and this went ON and ON and ON! NOTHING seemed linked to one another and Dr's thought I was CRAZY!!! WHY? B/c I LOOKED healthy! Here was this 25 year old, 105 Lb., blond female who has a LONG LIST of symptoms! Know what they told me? To see a PSYCHOLOGIST!!! Do you even KNOW how difficult that is to hear when you KNOW you're NOT crazy??!!! Of COURSE there's been no scientific link... BECAUSE they won't spend the MONEY on it!! WHY? B/c it's political. It makes a LOT of money!

I've been explanted for an entire year and have gotten a LITTLE better, but I fear that most of the damage has already been made! I'm only 28 years old, and YES! I was PERFECTLY healthy before this!

I had SALINE implants... during explantation, they removed an enlarged lymph node to be biopsied and found FREE-FLOATING silicone spread throughout my lymphatic system! That's right! I have poison floating through my body. WHY?! B/c my body was eating at the shell... in hopes to get rid of the " foreign object " !

They ALSO found strange substances inside the saline (bacteria, mold, etc.)

And THAT is healthy?

What I fear is that some of the people you know DO have problems with their implants and either 1. Don't KNOW it yet OR 2. Problems haven't started YET.

True, there are people that I know that have had them for YEARS and have had zero problems. Do you REALLY want to take that risk, all in the name of VANITY???

After having them, I think they are entirely over-rated... and I LOVE having my old chest back. FINALLY, nothing foreign in my body that can " pop " at any moment.

The only reason I am very aggressive about this subject is b/c it is the ONE and ONLY thing in my life that I TRULY regret doing! I have to live like this for the rest of my life! I try and figure out WHY I haven't been healed, or WHY I was sooo stupid to get this done. The ONLY thing that makes it seem even at ALL worth it, is to have someone else learn from MY mistake.

I do not know you. I have NO reason to nor motive to keep you from being " happy " with your breasts. I am being truthful with my story, and hope you take it to heart. Whichever way you choose to go... remember, Dr's DO have motive. It's how they earn their money. Us ladies are earning NOTHING from sharing our stories...

God Bless you!

-

On 7/6/07, laurie20007 <jayme200@...> wrote:

Hello,I just joined this group because I am seriously considering getting saline implants. I am 48 years old and have a good body but would love to have the very full beautiful breasts to go w/it. I have been contemplating implants for at least 10 years now so this would not be a spur of the momemt decision.I have read all kinds of horror stories about autoimune disease and such but to be honest everyone (at least 20 people) I know has had implants from ranges of 1-20 years and not one of these women has had any kind of complaint whatsoever. They feel perfect as well as looking incredible. I feel very bad for the woman who have had problems but I am wondering if they would have eventually have gotten sick even if they did not receive the implants. The surgeons I spoke with told me that there is no scientific link at all between the two. (and the friends I have who are in perfect health seem to be evidence that they are correct in that statement.I am seeing a very well know surgeon next week and may just decide to bit the bullet.Thank you.Laurie >> and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very down to earth but > there are sure are a lot of implants out there! Really makes me sad > because all I could think in seeing them was that they are all ticking > time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my natural breasts and > what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to have them out. > Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan>

July 6, 2007

Laurie,

My sister in law had saline implants for over 20

years, had symptoms but since she did not know

what to look for, did not relate them to her

implants. Now she is sicker and sicker and still

does not relate the symptoms to her implants.

Many women have symptoms, but do not relate them to the source of the problem.

Some women are immediate responders, some take

longer, some take quite a long time to really

have enough problems to relate them to their

implants, some stay in denial forever.

My brother in law is a biologist, and he says

that he could have told me implants would be

rejected by the body as a foreign object. That

is why scar capsules are formed around them.

Lynda

At 11:00 AM 7/6/2007, you wrote:

>Hello,

>I just joined this group because I am seriously considering getting

>saline implants. I am 48 years old and have a good body but would

>love to have the very full beautiful breasts to go w/it. I have been

>contemplating implants for at least 10 years now so this would not be

>a spur of the momemt decision.

>

>I have read all kinds of horror stories about autoimune disease and

>such but to be honest everyone (at least 20 people) I know has had

>implants from ranges of 1-20 years and not one of these women has had

>any kind of complaint whatsoever. They feel perfect as well as

>looking incredible. I feel very bad for the woman who have had

>problems but I am wondering if they would have eventually have gotten

>sick even if they did not receive the implants. The surgeons I spoke

>with told me that there is no scientific link at all between the two.

>(and the friends I have who are in perfect health seem to be evidence

>that they are correct in that statement.

>

>I am seeing a very well know surgeon next week and may just decide to

>bit the bullet.

>

>Thank you.

>Laurie

>

> >

> > and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very down to earth

>but

> > there are sure are a lot of implants out there! Really makes me sad

> > because all I could think in seeing them was that they are all

>ticking

> > time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my natural breasts

>and

> > what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to have them out.

> > Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan

> >

>

July 6, 2007

Thank you ,

I feel like crying after reading what you just wrote to me. Thank

you for the wake-up call. I will pray and try to find inner peace

within myself and good health for you.

Sincerely,

Laurie

> > >

> > > and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very down to

earth

> > but

> > > there are sure are a lot of implants out there! Really makes

me sad

> > > because all I could think in seeing them was that they are all

> > ticking

> > > time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my natural

breasts

> > and

> > > what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to have them out.

> > > Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan

> > >

> >

>

July 6, 2007

Hi Laurie,

I got implants when I was 45 years old. I was in very good health

and actually not really sure why I had the surgery, because I was

always very confident with my shape. Actually, my husband said

something that made me decide to get them because I thought " he

doesn't like how I look " . I only had my implants for six months and

would do anything if I could turn back time. You know what's

amazing, is that I went from an A/B to a C, and even though the

implants were pretty large for my frame (too large) only two people

seemed to notice. Once I had them removed, nobody noticed that

either. So, obviously I had something else going for me that people

were looking at other than my breasts. Over the years I had

developed a style of dressing that I really liked, and when I got

implants I couldn't dress like that anymore. I was no longer

wearing small and medium tops, I was wearing larges, and since my

stomach and waist are small, they were ill-fitting larges - tighter

in the breasts but very loose in the waist. I felt really dumpy. I

was looking at women with small breasts and thinking how beautiful

they now looked to me, and the women with large breasts didn't look

that good.

I had implants for six months and in total I paid $13,000 to have

them put in and then later removed. Imagine the vacation I could

have gone on for $13,000? That doesn't count all the blood work,

doctor visits, psychologist visits, etc. Within about a week or two

of getting the implants, my body started showing signs of problems.

I suddenly was having digestive problems on a daily basis, and my

lymph nodes were extremely sore in my arms and legs. I had alot of

anxiety, fatigue, muscle aches. Then about a month later, the

joints in my fingers started swelling (never had this before). Then

I had " zingers " that started in my legs (shooting pains) and

eventually I had them throughout my entire body, including my

tongue. Then my fingers and toes went numb, but at the same time

underneath my toenails felt like someone was driving tacks into

them, and bones in my fingers really hurt. The veins in my fingers

were bulging and throbbing and my fingers looked blue. My blood

pressure went from being low to being high in a matter of months -

and never in my life did I have high blood pressure. Next came the

blurry vision, daily headaches and confusion (which we call brain

fog). At this point, I was only able to sleep for about 3 hours per

night. There was no question that my body was reacting to the

implants and I wanted them out. My husband and I clashed quite a

bit here, because he believed that if it was the implants, my

plastic surgeon would be able to tell me and blood work would

provide the answers we needed. Wrong!! We almost got divorced over

this. That plastic surgeon who had posed as my best buddy before

surgery did not want to hear from me when I started having health

problems.

I had my implants removed in November of 2005, and within one month

my blood pressure returned to normal. It took about six months for

the fingers and toes to stop being numb. The headaches went away in

about 3 months, and it took about six months for the blurry vision

to improve. I sleep like a rock now, too. I still have problems

with my ears buzzing, though, especially when I go to sleep. That

first winter after having my implants removed, my joint swelling got

worse and now my knees, elbows and ankles were swollen, too. I

noticed this past winter, only my thumbs were swollen, and my thumbs

remain swollen. I still don't feel 100%, and I don't know if I ever

will, but I'm alot better than I was. I still have alot of

fatigue. When I had implants, I actually considered suicide because

I felt so trapped with those horrible implants in my body and I told

my husband it was either surgery or suicide. Oh, and a few months

after I had my implants removed, I had my thyroid checked. My TSH

was 3.09, which is considered high (hypothyroidism). I just had my

TSH tested again a few weeks ago, and it was 2.15 - within the

normal range. I had my thyroid checked before I got implants and it

was normal.

I'm back to living a somewhat normal life, but my whole world fell

apart after I got implants. Yes, you might know 20 women who have

implants and are doing just fine, but so did a 26 year old who came

here within weeks of having implants because she was having some

terrible symptoms. All of those friends who were supportive of her

getting implants didn't seem to be all that supportive once she got

sick. She hasn't been able to return to work at all in 2007. She

had her implants removed and is still struggling. It's hard to find

anyone who will listen once you get sick, because there's no " proof "

other than the suffering of women like us - and we're vastly ignored

by the medical profession, even though so many of us have the same

or similar symptoms. It would be great if there were studies

performed on those who got sick, so medical science could determine

why some of us get sick and why others don't. If it's possible for

people to be allergic to latex, why isn't it possible for people to

be allergic to silicone, which is exactly what the saline shell is

made of.

You might be one of the lucky ones who never gets sick - but are you

prepared in the event that you're one of the unlucky ones? Think of

the worst case scenario and decide if you're willing to live with

that. Are you willing to lose your job because you're too sick to

work? Are you willing to be unable to take care of your kids

because you're in bed all day? I've seen so many women come here

with those issues. Alot of women here gained ALOT of weight after

getting implants, too. If you're proud of your body, will you still

be proud if the weight starts piling on even though your eating

habits haven't changed? Also, if you decide to go through with

this, make sure that you have lots of extra money in the bank

because this won't be your last surgery. Even if you have no immune

problems because of implants, you will need more surgery and you

have no idea when that will be. It could be within a year, it could

be 10 years later. If you want the implants removed because you are

sick or just because you find you hate them (not uncommon, I hated

the look and feel of mine), you might not only need to have them

removed, but you might need to have a lift, which is not cheap.

Anyway, I hope I'm not coming across as if I'm attacking you - I'm

definitely not. I just want to make sure you know what you're

getting into if you decide to go through with this. I've suffered

and I've seen so many others suffer, and implants just aren't worth

it.

Sis

> > > >

> > > > and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very down to

> earth

> > > but

> > > > there are sure are a lot of implants out there! Really makes

> me sad

> > > > because all I could think in seeing them was that they are

all

> > > ticking

> > > > time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my natural

> breasts

> > > and

> > > > what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to have them

out.

> > > > Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 6, 2007

Thanks Laurie for listening to my story. If I can save ONE person, this would all, in some way, be worth it.

....I thank you for ANY prayer that I may get. Lord knows I NEED it!

-

On 7/6/07, laurie20007 <jayme200@...> wrote:

Thank you ,I feel like crying after reading what you just wrote to me. Thank you for the wake-up call. I will pray and try to find inner peace within myself and good health for you.Sincerely,

Laurie> > >> > > and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very down to earth> > but> > > there are sure are a lot of implants out there! Really makes me sad> > > because all I could think in seeing them was that they are all> > ticking

> > > time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my natural breasts> > and> > > what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to have them out.> > > Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan

> > >> >> > > >>

July 6, 2007

Hi Laurie,

I understand your concerns and admire you for investigating the

research before making a decision of a lifetime. And when I say

lifetime, I literally mean it. When I was contemplating breast

augmentation 6 years ago I didn't realize the huge impact it would

have on my LIFE and TIME. As I write this now I question my own

mortality wondering how much time I have left on this earth and I am

only 38 with two young children. I realize everyone struggles with

how they will die at some time in their life but this is different.

I feel as though I am 80 due to all my health problems. Ten months

ago you would have seen me as a vibrant, " healthy " , attractive

woman.

Like you I researched, talked with others and explored my options.

I spoke with my plastic surgeon regarding all possible complications

I had read about. He had an answer for them all, yet in the end he

was either lying or inaccurate. I truly wonder if he honestly

believes everything he told me.

The reason I had implants was because I've always been into health

and fitness and people seemed to notice and comment on my body

often. I too became very aware of my body and after nursing 2

children began noticing how my breasts sagged despite the rest of me

being in great shape. I thought it would boost my confidence.

Looking back at pictures, I now think I look ridiculous. I prefer

the way God made me. In fact, I would give anything to have those

saggy small breasts and I would wear them like a badge of honor.

Why can't women (and men) view the effects of nursing as " Wow, these

breasts nourished my children. What an accomplishment!! "

As for your friends who are implanted and " healthy " , I too thought I

was in perfect health because I ate well, exercised, and did all the

right things to promote well-being. My only symptom was bloating

when I would eat. My gastroenterologist said it was IBS and there

was nothing I could do about it other than eat more fiber. So for 6

years I lived with it not knowing that my implants had defective

valves. The fungi and bacteria (in all humans) was getting into the

valve, traveling into the implant which was the perfect environment

for breeding. It would then travel outside the implant circulating

throughout my entire body.

For six years it didn't affect me other than occasional discomfort.

Suddenly though I went from running 3-4 times per week to barely

being able to get out of bed. I was anemic, had headaches, chronic

fatigue, dizziness, low blood pressure, low body temperature, thick

blood, adrenal problems, lost 50% of my vision in one eye, had

blurry vision in both and numbness and tingling in all extremities.

For several months I suffered from cognitive dysfunction that I

would equate with a four-year-old...and this is a woman with a

Master's degree.

I asked 5 different doctors if it could be related to implants. All

said no, one even laughed as if I was crazy. My plastic surgeon

said my breast pain that was traveling down my arm must be due to

carpal tunnel syndrome! I didn't believe him as I didn't use my

left arm to the extent that it would cause carpal tunnel syndrome.

Two weeks later when I was explanted by a different PS, she found

that the shell was degraded.

I understand your desire for a so-called " ideal " appearance.

Appearance plays an important roll in so much of our lives.

Regrettably, getting caught up in the supeficialty of looks is what

got me into this mess.

How did I look before implants? I was natural with healthy, shiny,

thick beautiful blonde hair, a pretty skin tone, a sculpted fit body

and a nice smile with sparkling eyes.

How do I look now? My hair is thin, dry, mousy brown and sparse.

I'm too toxic at this point to color it. My skin went from a nice

healthy glow to an ashy gray. My body is not toned as the pain and

fatigue makes it extremely difficult to work out like I used to.

And as far as my smile, I haven't seen it in 10 months. When I look

in the mirror, I don't even recognize myself as my eyes constantly

look red and tired. Did I mention my spirit? It somehow left me as

well.

I know this will change eventually, but it will take an enormous

amount of time and effort to heal. I never thought this would

happen to me. I didn't picture myself at 38 wondering DAILY if my

beast aug decision will lead to an autoimmune disease, cancer or

death. I expected to be enjoying my life, my friends, my family, my

accomplishments rather than nursing a possible LIFETIME illness.

Take care and best of luck in your decision making process. Go with

your gut. Had I listened to mine, I'd be somewhere other than in

bed at 5:00 in the evening. - PH

> >

> > and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very down to

earth

> but

> > there are sure are a lot of implants out there! Really makes me

sad

> > because all I could think in seeing them was that they are all

> ticking

> > time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my natural

breasts

> and

> > what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to have them out.

> > Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan

> >

>

July 6, 2007

Hi Laurie,

Good for you for doing research. God how I wish I had prior to

implant because I would have never ever done that to myself!

I am 34 years old, I feel like I am 80. I was in perfect health

until about 6 months ago. I had had my implants for about 8 years

(saline). The did look good but they felt very unnatural. The first

time my hubby and I got frisky he knew right away that they were

fake.

Anyhow, I pray your friends do not get sick. I wasn't sick for the

first 6 to 7 years either. But I do believe that implants are a

foreign object in a body and my body had been trying to fight them

all of this time. Finally my body gave up, it started fighting other

organs. Since December I have been diagnosed with auto-immune issues

but the doctor's can't pinpoint the exact diagnosis or what is

causing it!!! I have had every test in the book run. Finally they

chalk it up to anxiety. Anyhow, you won't find too many doctors who

will admit that implants cause sickness.

Have beautiful breasts which filled out my clothes was great but

after I got sick I couldn't even barely get out of bed. I didn't

feel like wearing sexy clothes and I certainly didn't feel very

sexy. I am lucky that I found this group and was explanted on 4/13.

If I hadn't found this group I am sure I would have ended up disabled

and unemployed.

I am slowly regaining my health. All of the sudden my abnormal labs

are getting better (SHOCKER to the doctors)... I pray that you come

to realize you don't want the implants. The implants do not last

forever either, so plan on future surgeries and additional money.

But please, read the files on this board and see how sick these women

(including me) are from implants. I do not think it is a coincidence

that we all have the same symptoms and problems. I have no family

members with auto-immune issues - ZERO.

Prayers and Hugs,

Lynn

> >

> > and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very down to

earth

> but

> > there are sure are a lot of implants out there! Really makes me

sad

> > because all I could think in seeing them was that they are all

> ticking

> > time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my natural

breasts

> and

> > what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to have them out.

> > Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan

> >

>

July 6, 2007

Oh , you have just described my issues to the tee!!

Lynn

> > >

> > > and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very down to

earth

> > but

> > > there are sure are a lot of implants out there! Really makes me

sad

> > > because all I could think in seeing them was that they are all

> > ticking

> > > time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my natural

breasts

> > and

> > > what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to have them out.

> > > Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan

> > >

> >

>

July 7, 2007

,Getting implants is the ONE thing I regret doing in my life too. I think most women here would agree that it is such a regrettable decision. I relate to your experience with the Dr.s, I too look perfectly healthy from the outside... and am 29, so its hard to be taken seriously and get the tests done.I hope you continue to heal and feel better as time goes on. Katy:) Shoham <resultsbyrachel@...> wrote: Laurie, I truly understand your

mentality. Before I got mine done, I had those very same thoughts and wonders... That was about 9 years ago when I was just 19 years old. I was super healthy... was a trainer at a gym, competed in fitness competitions, (played soccer, basketball, track, and cheerleading in school) and was even FINE for the first 6 years being implanted! When I started to get sick, I had NO IDEA it was due to my implants!!! Why WOULD I??? I had had NO PROBLEMS for SIX YEARS!!! Besides, it did not SEAM linked! I started getting very weak and tired, stomach problems, burning/tingling sensations, dizziness & lightheaded, shaking & trembling, cold sweats, blackouts, heart palpitations, irregular heartbeat & racing heartbeat, shortness of breath, low blood sugar... and this went ON and ON and ON! NOTHING seemed linked to one another and Dr's thought I was CRAZY!!! WHY? B/c I LOOKED healthy!

Here was this 25 year old, 105 Lb., blond female who has a LONG LIST of symptoms! Know what they told me? To see a PSYCHOLOGIST!!! Do you even KNOW how difficult that is to hear when you KNOW you're NOT crazy??!!! Of COURSE there's been no scientific link... BECAUSE they won't spend the MONEY on it!! WHY? B/c it's political. It makes a LOT of money! I've been explanted for an entire year and have gotten a LITTLE better, but I fear that most of the damage has already been made! I'm only 28 years old, and YES! I was PERFECTLY healthy before this! I had SALINE implants... during explantation, they removed an enlarged lymph node to be biopsied and found FREE-FLOATING silicone spread throughout my lymphatic system! That's right! I have poison floating through my body. WHY?! B/c my body was eating at the shell... in hopes to get rid of the "foreign object"!

They ALSO found strange substances inside the saline (bacteria, mold, etc.) And THAT is healthy? What I fear is that some of the people you know DO have problems with their implants and either 1. Don't KNOW it yet OR 2. Problems haven't started YET. True, there are people that I know that have had them for YEARS and have had zero problems. Do you REALLY want to take that risk, all in the name of VANITY??? After having them, I think they are entirely over-rated... and I LOVE having my old chest back. FINALLY, nothing foreign in my body that can "pop" at any moment. The only reason I am very aggressive about this subject is b/c it is the ONE and ONLY thing in my life that I TRULY regret doing! I have to live like this for the rest of my life! I try and figure out WHY I haven't been healed, or WHY I was sooo stupid to get this done. The ONLY thing that

makes it seem even at ALL worth it, is to have someone else learn from MY mistake. I do not know you. I have NO reason to nor motive to keep you from being "happy" with your breasts. I am being truthful with my story, and hope you take it to heart. Whichever way you choose to go... remember, Dr's DO have motive. It's how they earn their money. Us ladies are earning NOTHING from sharing our stories... God Bless you! - On 7/6/07, laurie20007 <jayme200aol> wrote: Hello,I just joined this group because I am seriously considering getting saline

implants. I am 48 years old and have a good body but would love to have the very full beautiful breasts to go w/it. I have been contemplating implants for at least 10 years now so this would not be a spur of the momemt decision.I have read all kinds of horror stories about autoimune disease and such but to be honest everyone (at least 20 people) I know has had implants from ranges of 1-20 years and not one of these women has had any kind of complaint whatsoever. They feel perfect as well as looking incredible. I feel very bad for the woman who have had problems but I am wondering if they would have eventually have gotten sick even if they did not receive the implants. The surgeons I spoke with told me that there is no scientific link at all between the two. (and the friends I have who are in perfect health seem to be evidence that they are correct in that statement.I am seeing a very well know surgeon next

week and may just decide to bit the bullet.Thank you.Laurie >> and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very down to earth but > there are sure are a lot of implants out there! Really makes me sad > because all I could think in seeing them was that they are all ticking > time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my natural breasts and > what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to have them out. > Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan>

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Laurie ~

I have been away from the group for a few days, and have read some of the replys to your message here. I believe you made a great decision ! Getting implants could have exploded that bullet you were gonna bite ! ! I am glad that you were led to the group, and got some good information from the girls. My story is pretty gruesome, and includes heart failure, cardiomyopathy, thyroid, adrenal, lung, liver, and kidney disease, only to mention a few........ Someone is watching over you.........embrace that, and Bless you ! DedeSee what's free at AOL.com.

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Thanks, Katy!!! =)

I hope the same for you! I didn't know anyone on here was my age! Gosh, so good to know (not that it MATTERS! lol!)

How old were you when you got yours, and how did your symptoms begin, etc.?

-

On 7/7/07, katy mclean <thesuddendeparture@...> wrote:

,Getting implants is the ONE thing I regret doing in my life too. I think most women here would agree that it is such a regrettable decision. I relate to your experience with the Dr.s, I too look perfectly healthy from the outside... and am 29, so its hard to be taken seriously and get the tests done.

I hope you continue to heal and feel better as time goes on. Katy:) Shoham <resultsbyrachelgmail> wrote:

Laurie,

I truly understand your mentality. Before I got mine done, I had those very same thoughts and wonders...

That was about 9 years ago when I was just 19 years old. I was super healthy... was a trainer at a gym, competed in fitness competitions, (played soccer, basketball, track, and cheerleading in school) and was even FINE for the first 6 years being implanted! When I started to get sick, I had NO IDEA it was due to my implants!!! Why WOULD I??? I had had NO PROBLEMS for SIX YEARS!!! Besides, it did not SEAM linked!

I started getting very weak and tired, stomach problems, burning/tingling sensations, dizziness & lightheaded, shaking & trembling, cold sweats, blackouts, heart palpitations, irregular heartbeat & racing heartbeat, shortness of breath, low blood sugar... and this went ON and ON and ON! NOTHING seemed linked to one another and Dr's thought I was CRAZY!!! WHY? B/c I LOOKED healthy! Here was this 25 year old, 105 Lb., blond female who has a LONG LIST of symptoms! Know what they told me? To see a PSYCHOLOGIST!!! Do you even KNOW how difficult that is to hear when you KNOW you're NOT crazy??!!! Of COURSE there's been no scientific link... BECAUSE they won't spend the MONEY on it!! WHY? B/c it's political. It makes a LOT of money!

I've been explanted for an entire year and have gotten a LITTLE better, but I fear that most of the damage has already been made! I'm only 28 years old, and YES! I was PERFECTLY healthy before this!

I had SALINE implants... during explantation, they removed an enlarged lymph node to be biopsied and found FREE-FLOATING silicone spread throughout my lymphatic system! That's right! I have poison floating through my body. WHY?! B/c my body was eating at the shell... in hopes to get rid of the " foreign object " !

They ALSO found strange substances inside the saline (bacteria, mold, etc.)

And THAT is healthy?

What I fear is that some of the people you know DO have problems with their implants and either 1. Don't KNOW it yet OR 2. Problems haven't started YET.

True, there are people that I know that have had them for YEARS and have had zero problems. Do you REALLY want to take that risk, all in the name of VANITY???

After having them, I think they are entirely over-rated... and I LOVE having my old chest back. FINALLY, nothing foreign in my body that can " pop " at any moment.

The only reason I am very aggressive about this subject is b/c it is the ONE and ONLY thing in my life that I TRULY regret doing! I have to live like this for the rest of my life! I try and figure out WHY I haven't been healed, or WHY I was sooo stupid to get this done. The ONLY thing that makes it seem even at ALL worth it, is to have someone else learn from MY mistake.

I do not know you. I have NO reason to nor motive to keep you from being " happy " with your breasts. I am being truthful with my story, and hope you take it to heart. Whichever way you choose to go... remember, Dr's DO have motive. It's how they earn their money. Us ladies are earning NOTHING from sharing our stories...

God Bless you!

-

On 7/6/07, laurie20007 <jayme200@...> wrote:

Hello,I just joined this group because I am seriously considering getting saline implants. I am 48 years old and have a good body but would love to have the very full beautiful breasts to go w/it. I have been contemplating implants for at least 10 years now so this would not be a spur of the momemt decision.I have read all kinds of horror stories about autoimune disease and such but to be honest everyone (at least 20 people) I know has had implants from ranges of 1-20 years and not one of these women has had any kind of complaint whatsoever. They feel perfect as well as looking incredible. I feel very bad for the woman who have had problems but I am wondering if they would have eventually have gotten sick even if they did not receive the implants. The surgeons I spoke with told me that there is no scientific link at all between the two. (and the friends I have who are in perfect health seem to be evidence that they are correct in that statement.I am seeing a very well know surgeon next week and may just decide to bit the bullet.Thank you.Laurie

>> and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very down to earth but > there are sure are a lot of implants out there! Really makes me sad > because all I could think in seeing them was that they are all ticking > time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my natural breasts and > what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to have them out. > Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan>

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Hi ,I got my implants 2 months before my 19th birthday!! I was so young, I can't believe the surgeon did it for me... I suddenly came into a small inheritance and was living on my own and hastily got the implants:(My first symptom was a lymph node behind my ear that became chronically inflammed (now I have about a dozen of these). This happened in the first year...Then I began having major digestive issues which have been diagnosed as "IBS" and my thyroid levels were low. My symptoms crept up on me over the years and it took me so LONG to connect the implants. Besides the lymph nodes and digestive problems, I've had lots of the usual ones like "panic attacks", vertigo, frequent colds and flus, allergies/sensitivites, low energy and fatigue, hypoglycemia, DRY eyes, hair loss, pallor, mouth ulcers and menstrual problems.In the first few years I actually went back to the surgeon who did my implants with worries about them and my health. Of

course she told me it was all ridiculous and convinced me that they were completely fine. I think I felt "ok" enough because I was so young. I knew I got sick WAY more often than anyone else I knew and that was confusing. I went to specialists, naturopaths, chinese doctors, chiropractors and tried all kinds of treatments.Then I figured it out and I found this group. I'm on my way to getting my explant done and my health back!Katy:) Shoham <resultsbyrachel@...> wrote: Thanks,

Katy!!! =) I hope the same for you! I didn't know anyone on here was my age! Gosh, so good to know (not that it MATTERS! lol!) How old were you when you got yours, and how did your symptoms begin, etc.? - On 7/7/07, katy mclean <thesuddendeparture (DOT) ca> wrote: ,Getting implants is the ONE thing I regret doing in my life too. I think most women here would agree that it is such a regrettable decision. I relate to your experience with the Dr.s, I too look perfectly healthy from the outside... and am 29, so its hard to be taken

seriously and get the tests done. I hope you continue to heal and feel better as time goes on. Katy:) Shoham <resultsbyrachelgmail> wrote: Laurie, I truly understand your mentality. Before I got mine done, I had those very same thoughts and wonders... That was about 9 years ago when I was just 19 years old. I was super healthy... was a trainer at a gym, competed in fitness competitions, (played soccer, basketball, track, and cheerleading in school) and was even FINE for the first 6 years being implanted! When I started to get sick, I had NO IDEA it was due to my implants!!! Why WOULD I??? I had had NO PROBLEMS for SIX YEARS!!! Besides, it did not

SEAM linked! I started getting very weak and tired, stomach problems, burning/tingling sensations, dizziness & lightheaded, shaking & trembling, cold sweats, blackouts, heart palpitations, irregular heartbeat & racing heartbeat, shortness of breath, low blood sugar... and this went ON and ON and ON! NOTHING seemed linked to one another and Dr's thought I was CRAZY!!! WHY? B/c I LOOKED healthy! Here was this 25 year old, 105 Lb., blond female who has a LONG LIST of symptoms! Know what they told me? To see a PSYCHOLOGIST!!! Do you even KNOW how difficult that is to hear when you KNOW you're NOT crazy??!!! Of COURSE there's been no scientific link... BECAUSE they won't spend the MONEY on it!! WHY? B/c it's political. It makes a LOT of money! I've been explanted for an entire year and have gotten a LITTLE better, but I fear that most of the damage has already been

made! I'm only 28 years old, and YES! I was PERFECTLY healthy before this! I had SALINE implants... during explantation, they removed an enlarged lymph node to be biopsied and found FREE-FLOATING silicone spread throughout my lymphatic system! That's right! I have poison floating through my body. WHY?! B/c my body was eating at the shell... in hopes to get rid of the "foreign object"! They ALSO found strange substances inside the saline (bacteria, mold, etc.) And THAT is healthy? What I fear is that some of the people you know DO have problems with their implants and either 1. Don't KNOW it yet OR 2. Problems haven't started YET. True, there are people that I know that have had them for YEARS and have had zero problems. Do you REALLY want to take that risk, all in the name of VANITY??? After having them, I think they are entirely over-rated...

and I LOVE having my old chest back. FINALLY, nothing foreign in my body that can "pop" at any moment. The only reason I am very aggressive about this subject is b/c it is the ONE and ONLY thing in my life that I TRULY regret doing! I have to live like this for the rest of my life! I try and figure out WHY I haven't been healed, or WHY I was sooo stupid to get this done. The ONLY thing that makes it seem even at ALL worth it, is to have someone else learn from MY mistake. I do not know you. I have NO reason to nor motive to keep you from being "happy" with your breasts. I am being truthful with my story, and hope you take it to heart. Whichever way you choose to go... remember, Dr's DO have motive. It's how they earn their money. Us ladies are earning NOTHING from sharing our stories... God Bless you!

- On 7/6/07, laurie20007 <jayme200aol> wrote: Hello,I just joined this group because I am seriously considering getting saline implants. I am 48 years old and have a good body but would love to have the very full beautiful breasts to go w/it. I have been contemplating implants for at least 10 years now so this would not be a spur of the momemt decision.I have read all kinds of horror stories about autoimune disease and such but to be honest everyone (at least 20 people) I know has had implants from ranges of 1-20 years and not one of these women has had any kind of complaint whatsoever. They feel perfect as

well as looking incredible. I feel very bad for the woman who have had problems but I am wondering if they would have eventually have gotten sick even if they did not receive the implants. The surgeons I spoke with told me that there is no scientific link at all between the two. (and the friends I have who are in perfect health seem to be evidence that they are correct in that statement.I am seeing a very well know surgeon next week and may just decide to bit the bullet.Thank you.Laurie >> and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very down to earth but > there are sure are a lot of implants out there! Really makes me sad > because all I could think in seeing them was that they are all ticking > time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my natural breasts and > what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to have them out. > Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan> Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new

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God Bless you Sweetheart ! I think these feelings are common with BI girls, and are a very difficult part of this illness, I too go through these feelings, and more often than I wish. The group has been a Godsend for me. You are in my prayers !

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Wow! So you're not explanted yet?

I'm very curious to see how you heal. I've been explanted for a little over 1 year... at first I started feeling a little better, now I feel the same as I did WITH the darn implants, EXCEPT that I have better peace of mind!

I feel as though I have no hope... no future... EVERY SINGLE DAY I am so miserable. As bad as it sounds, I pray that God will either heal me... or TAKE me. This is not living for me.

I pray that your recovery is AMAZING! It will give me hope!!!

With love,

On 7/9/07, katy mclean <thesuddendeparture@...> wrote:

Hi ,I got my implants 2 months before my 19th birthday!! I was so young, I can't believe the surgeon did it for me... I suddenly came into a small inheritance and was living on my own and hastily got the implants:(

My first symptom was a lymph node behind my ear that became chronically inflammed (now I have about a dozen of these). This happened in the first year...Then I began having major digestive issues which have been diagnosed as " IBS " and my thyroid levels were low. My symptoms crept up on me over the years and it took me so LONG to connect the implants. Besides the lymph nodes and digestive problems, I've had lots of the usual ones like " panic attacks " , vertigo, frequent colds and flus, allergies/sensitivites, low energy and fatigue, hypoglycemia, DRY eyes, hair loss, pallor, mouth ulcers and menstrual problems.

In the first few years I actually went back to the surgeon who did my implants with worries about them and my health. Of course she told me it was all ridiculous and convinced me that they were completely fine. I think I felt " ok " enough because I was so young. I knew I got sick WAY more often than anyone else I knew and that was confusing. I went to specialists, naturopaths, chinese doctors, chiropractors and tried all kinds of treatments.

Then I figured it out and I found this group. I'm on my way to getting my explant done and my health back! Katy:) Shoham <resultsbyrachelgmail

> wrote:

Thanks, Katy!!! =)

I hope the same for you! I didn't know anyone on here was my age! Gosh, so good to know (not that it MATTERS! lol!)

How old were you when you got yours, and how did your symptoms begin, etc.?

-

On 7/7/07, katy mclean <thesuddendeparture@...

> wrote:

,Getting implants is the ONE thing I regret doing in my life too. I think most women here would agree that it is such a regrettable decision. I relate to your experience with the Dr.s, I too look perfectly healthy from the outside... and am 29, so its hard to be taken seriously and get the tests done. I hope you continue to heal and feel better as time goes on. Katy:)

Shoham <resultsbyrachelgmail> wrote:

Laurie,

I truly understand your mentality. Before I got mine done, I had those very same thoughts and wonders...

That was about 9 years ago when I was just 19 years old. I was super healthy... was a trainer at a gym, competed in fitness competitions, (played soccer, basketball, track, and cheerleading in school) and was even FINE for the first 6 years being implanted! When I started to get sick, I had NO IDEA it was due to my implants!!! Why WOULD I??? I had had NO PROBLEMS for SIX YEARS!!! Besides, it did not SEAM linked!

I started getting very weak and tired, stomach problems, burning/tingling sensations, dizziness & lightheaded, shaking & trembling, cold sweats, blackouts, heart palpitations, irregular heartbeat & racing heartbeat, shortness of breath, low blood sugar... and this went ON and ON and ON! NOTHING seemed linked to one another and Dr's thought I was CRAZY!!! WHY? B/c I LOOKED healthy! Here was this 25 year old, 105 Lb., blond female who has a LONG LIST of symptoms! Know what they told me? To see a PSYCHOLOGIST!!! Do you even KNOW how difficult that is to hear when you KNOW you're NOT crazy??!!! Of COURSE there's been no scientific link... BECAUSE they won't spend the MONEY on it!! WHY? B/c it's political. It makes a LOT of money!

I've been explanted for an entire year and have gotten a LITTLE better, but I fear that most of the damage has already been made! I'm only 28 years old, and YES! I was PERFECTLY healthy before this!

I had SALINE implants... during explantation, they removed an enlarged lymph node to be biopsied and found FREE-FLOATING silicone spread throughout my lymphatic system! That's right! I have poison floating through my body. WHY?! B/c my body was eating at the shell... in hopes to get rid of the " foreign object " !

They ALSO found strange substances inside the saline (bacteria, mold, etc.)

And THAT is healthy?

What I fear is that some of the people you know DO have problems with their implants and either 1. Don't KNOW it yet OR 2. Problems haven't started YET.

True, there are people that I know that have had them for YEARS and have had zero problems. Do you REALLY want to take that risk, all in the name of VANITY???

After having them, I think they are entirely over-rated... and I LOVE having my old chest back. FINALLY, nothing foreign in my body that can " pop " at any moment.

The only reason I am very aggressive about this subject is b/c it is the ONE and ONLY thing in my life that I TRULY regret doing! I have to live like this for the rest of my life! I try and figure out WHY I haven't been healed, or WHY I was sooo stupid to get this done. The ONLY thing that makes it seem even at ALL worth it, is to have someone else learn from MY mistake.

I do not know you. I have NO reason to nor motive to keep you from being " happy " with your breasts. I am being truthful with my story, and hope you take it to heart. Whichever way you choose to go... remember, Dr's DO have motive. It's how they earn their money. Us ladies are earning NOTHING from sharing our stories...

God Bless you!

-

On 7/6/07, laurie20007 <jayme200@...> wrote:

Hello,I just joined this group because I am seriously considering getting saline implants. I am 48 years old and have a good body but would love to have the very full beautiful breasts to go w/it. I have been contemplating implants for at least 10 years now so this would not be a spur of the momemt decision.I have read all kinds of horror stories about autoimune disease and such but to be honest everyone (at least 20 people) I know has had implants from ranges of 1-20 years and not one of these women has had any kind of complaint whatsoever. They feel perfect as well as looking incredible. I feel very bad for the woman who have had problems but I am wondering if they would have eventually have gotten sick even if they did not receive the implants. The surgeons I spoke with told me that there is no scientific link at all between the two. (and the friends I have who are in perfect health seem to be evidence that they are correct in that statement.I am seeing a very well know surgeon next week and may just decide to bit the bullet.Thank you.Laurie

>> and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very down to earth but > there are sure are a lot of implants out there! Really makes me sad > because all I could think in seeing them was that they are all ticking > time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my natural breasts and > what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to have them out. > Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan>

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Katy, You just told my story, except for the fact I was 37 and not 19. I thought I was the only one with all these illnesses until I found this group. I used to be very health and active for a 37 year old and now I feel like a 85 year old woman.Here is a picture of me at 37, 4 months before implants. katy mclean <thesuddendeparture@...> wrote: Hi ,I got my implants 2 months before my 19th birthday!! I was so young, I can't believe the surgeon did it for me... I suddenly came into a small inheritance and was living on my own and hastily got the implants:(My first symptom was a lymph node behind my ear that became chronically inflammed (now I have about a dozen of these). This happened in the first

year...Then I began having major digestive issues which have been diagnosed as "IBS" and my thyroid levels were low. My symptoms crept up on me over the years and it took me so LONG to connect the implants. Besides the lymph nodes and digestive problems, I've had lots of the usual ones like "panic attacks", vertigo, frequent colds and flus, allergies/sensitivites, low energy and fatigue, hypoglycemia, DRY eyes, hair loss, pallor, mouth ulcers and menstrual problems.In the first few years I actually went back to the surgeon who did my implants with worries about them and my health. Of course she told me it was all ridiculous and convinced me that they were completely fine. I think I felt "ok" enough because I was so young. I knew I got sick WAY more often than anyone else I knew and that was confusing. I went to specialists, naturopaths, chinese doctors, chiropractors and tried all kinds of treatments.Then I figured it out and I found this group.

I'm on my way to getting my explant done and my health back!Katy:) Shoham <resultsbyrachel@...> wrote: Thanks, Katy!!! =) I hope the same for you! I didn't know anyone on here was my age! Gosh, so good to know (not that it MATTERS! lol!) How old were you when you got yours, and how did your symptoms begin, etc.? - On 7/7/07, katy mclean <thesuddendeparture (DOT) ca> wrote: ,Getting implants is the ONE thing I regret doing in my life too. I think most women here would agree that it is such a regrettable decision. I relate to your experience with the Dr.s, I too look perfectly healthy from the outside... and am 29, so its hard to be taken seriously and get the tests done. I hope you continue to heal and feel better as time goes on. Katy:) Shoham <resultsbyrachelgmail> wrote: Laurie, I truly understand your mentality. Before I got mine done, I had those very same thoughts and wonders... That was about 9 years ago when I was just 19 years old. I was super

healthy... was a trainer at a gym, competed in fitness competitions, (played soccer, basketball, track, and cheerleading in school) and was even FINE for the first 6 years being implanted! When I started to get sick, I had NO IDEA it was due to my implants!!! Why WOULD I??? I had had NO PROBLEMS for SIX YEARS!!! Besides, it did not SEAM linked! I started getting very weak and tired, stomach problems, burning/tingling sensations, dizziness & lightheaded, shaking & trembling, cold sweats, blackouts, heart palpitations, irregular heartbeat & racing heartbeat, shortness of breath, low blood sugar... and this went ON and ON and ON! NOTHING seemed linked to one another and Dr's thought I was CRAZY!!! WHY? B/c I LOOKED healthy! Here was this 25 year old, 105 Lb., blond female who has a LONG LIST of symptoms! Know what they told me? To see a PSYCHOLOGIST!!! Do you even KNOW

how difficult that is to hear when you KNOW you're NOT crazy??!!! Of COURSE there's been no scientific link... BECAUSE they won't spend the MONEY on it!! WHY? B/c it's political. It makes a LOT of money! I've been explanted for an entire year and have gotten a LITTLE better, but I fear that most of the damage has already been made! I'm only 28 years old, and YES! I was PERFECTLY healthy before this! I had SALINE implants... during explantation, they removed an enlarged lymph node to be biopsied and found FREE-FLOATING silicone spread throughout my lymphatic system! That's right! I have poison floating through my body. WHY?! B/c my body was eating at the shell... in hopes to get rid of the "foreign object"! They ALSO found strange substances inside the saline (bacteria, mold, etc.) And THAT is healthy? What I fear is that some of the people you know

DO have problems with their implants and either 1. Don't KNOW it yet OR 2. Problems haven't started YET. True, there are people that I know that have had them for YEARS and have had zero problems. Do you REALLY want to take that risk, all in the name of VANITY??? After having them, I think they are entirely over-rated... and I LOVE having my old chest back. FINALLY, nothing foreign in my body that can "pop" at any moment. The only reason I am very aggressive about this subject is b/c it is the ONE and ONLY thing in my life that I TRULY regret doing! I have to live like this for the rest of my life! I try and figure out WHY I haven't been healed, or WHY I was sooo stupid to get this done. The ONLY thing that makes it seem even at ALL worth it, is to have someone else learn from MY mistake. I do not know you. I have NO reason to nor

motive to keep you from being "happy" with your breasts. I am being truthful with my story, and hope you take it to heart. Whichever way you choose to go... remember, Dr's DO have motive. It's how they earn their money. Us ladies are earning NOTHING from sharing our stories... God Bless you! - On 7/6/07, laurie20007 <jayme200aol> wrote: Hello,I just joined this group because I am seriously considering getting saline implants. I am 48 years old and have a good body but would love to have the very full beautiful breasts to go w/it. I have been contemplating

implants for at least 10 years now so this would not be a spur of the momemt decision.I have read all kinds of horror stories about autoimune disease and such but to be honest everyone (at least 20 people) I know has had implants from ranges of 1-20 years and not one of these women has had any kind of complaint whatsoever. They feel perfect as well as looking incredible. I feel very bad for the woman who have had problems but I am wondering if they would have eventually have gotten sick even if they did not receive the implants. The surgeons I spoke with told me that there is no scientific link at all between the two. (and the friends I have who are in perfect health seem to be evidence that they are correct in that statement.I am seeing a very well know surgeon next week and may just decide to bit the bullet.Thank you.Laurie >> and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very down to earth but > there are sure are a lot of implants out there! Really makes me sad > because all I could think in seeing them was that they are all ticking > time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my natural breasts and > what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to have them out. > Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan> Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers.

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It would be awesome to all be able to get together for a few days to get to meet in person !

I was 28 when I had my second baby. He is now 25 years old ! My how time flys ! !

I would bet that since you have so many hormones flying around because of the pregnancy, that it has stirred up things for you. It should settle some after the first trimester.

When you focus on the old days, use it as a goal, and not a sadness of ...should of , would of, could of......changing the focus from sad, to a goal, will help you alot.

Have a good day !

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. God bless you ! I have also prayed for this, heal me or take me. When I have my explant done I pray they get every bit of scar tissue and any lumps they find as well. I want this mess out of me, all of it. I pray you get better. I hate knowing that you feel you're life is not worth living being so sick. Last year I was so sick of being sick I went to the hospital. I told them to keep me because if they let me go that sick I wouldn't come back - ever. They backer acted me and sent me to our local nuthouse. I had given up the fight. Well, I'm still here and I'm still sick. I have something now that I didn't have then, women like us. Although I am still sick I am not alone. This group has been my reason for getting out of bed most days. I love my new friends and I can do almost anything with their support, this includes you. Just knowing we feel

the same pain gives us a bond of caring for each other. Shoham <resultsbyrachel@...> wrote: Wow! So you're not explanted yet? I'm very curious to see how you heal. I've been explanted for a little over 1 year... at first I started feeling a little better, now I feel the same as I did WITH the darn implants, EXCEPT that I have better peace of mind! I feel as though I have no hope... no future... EVERY SINGLE DAY I am so miserable. As bad as it sounds, I pray that God will either heal me... or TAKE me. This is not living for me. I pray that your recovery is AMAZING! It will give me hope!!! With love, On 7/9/07, katy mclean <thesuddendeparture@...> wrote: Hi ,I got my implants 2 months before my 19th birthday!! I was so young, I can't believe the surgeon did it for me... I suddenly came into a small inheritance and was living on my own and hastily got the implants:( My first symptom was a lymph node behind my ear that became chronically inflammed (now I have about a dozen of these). This happened in the first year...Then I began having major digestive

issues which have been diagnosed as "IBS" and my thyroid levels were low. My symptoms crept up on me over the years and it took me so LONG to connect the implants. Besides the lymph nodes and digestive problems, I've had lots of the usual ones like "panic attacks", vertigo, frequent colds and flus, allergies/sensitivites, low energy and fatigue, hypoglycemia, DRY eyes, hair loss, pallor, mouth ulcers and menstrual problems. In the first few years I actually went back to the surgeon who did my implants with worries about them and my health. Of course she told me it was all ridiculous and convinced me that they were completely fine. I think I felt "ok" enough because I was so young. I knew I got sick WAY more often than anyone else I knew and that was confusing. I went to specialists, naturopaths, chinese doctors, chiropractors and tried all kinds of treatments. Then I figured it out and I found this group. I'm on my way to getting my explant done and

my health back! Katy:) Shoham <resultsbyrachelgmail > wrote: Thanks, Katy!!! =) I hope the same for you! I didn't know anyone on here was my age! Gosh, so good to know (not that it MATTERS! lol!) How old were you when you got yours, and how did your symptoms begin, etc.? - On 7/7/07, katy mclean <thesuddendeparture@... > wrote: ,Getting implants is the ONE thing I regret doing in my life too. I think most women here would agree that it is such a regrettable decision. I relate to your experience with the Dr.s, I too look perfectly healthy from the outside... and am 29, so its hard to be taken seriously and get the tests done. I hope you continue to heal and feel better as time goes on. Katy:) Shoham <resultsbyrachelgmail> wrote: Laurie, I truly understand your mentality. Before I got mine done, I had those very same thoughts and

wonders... That was about 9 years ago when I was just 19 years old. I was super healthy... was a trainer at a gym, competed in fitness competitions, (played soccer, basketball, track, and cheerleading in school) and was even FINE for the first 6 years being implanted! When I started to get sick, I had NO IDEA it was due to my implants!!! Why WOULD I??? I had had NO PROBLEMS for SIX YEARS!!! Besides, it did not SEAM linked! I started getting very weak and tired, stomach problems, burning/tingling sensations, dizziness & lightheaded, shaking & trembling, cold sweats, blackouts, heart palpitations, irregular heartbeat & racing heartbeat, shortness of breath, low blood sugar... and this went ON and ON and ON! NOTHING seemed linked to one another and Dr's thought I was CRAZY!!! WHY? B/c I LOOKED healthy! Here was this 25 year old, 105 Lb., blond female who has a LONG LIST of

symptoms! Know what they told me? To see a PSYCHOLOGIST!!! Do you even KNOW how difficult that is to hear when you KNOW you're NOT crazy??!!! Of COURSE there's been no scientific link... BECAUSE they won't spend the MONEY on it!! WHY? B/c it's political. It makes a LOT of money! I've been explanted for an entire year and have gotten a LITTLE better, but I fear that most of the damage has already been made! I'm only 28 years old, and YES! I was PERFECTLY healthy before this! I had SALINE implants... during explantation, they removed an enlarged lymph node to be biopsied and found FREE-FLOATING silicone spread throughout my lymphatic system! That's right! I have poison floating through my body. WHY?! B/c my body was eating at the shell... in hopes to get rid of the "foreign object"! They ALSO found strange substances inside the saline (bacteria, mold,

etc.) And THAT is healthy? What I fear is that some of the people you know DO have problems with their implants and either 1. Don't KNOW it yet OR 2. Problems haven't started YET. True, there are people that I know that have had them for YEARS and have had zero problems. Do you REALLY want to take that risk, all in the name of VANITY??? After having them, I think they are entirely over-rated... and I LOVE having my old chest back. FINALLY, nothing foreign in my body that can "pop" at any moment. The only reason I am very aggressive about this subject is b/c it is the ONE and ONLY thing in my life that I TRULY regret doing! I have to live like this for the rest of my life! I try and figure out WHY I haven't been healed, or WHY I was sooo stupid to get this done. The ONLY thing that makes it seem even at ALL worth it, is to have someone else learn from MY

mistake. I do not know you. I have NO reason to nor motive to keep you from being "happy" with your breasts. I am being truthful with my story, and hope you take it to heart. Whichever way you choose to go... remember, Dr's DO have motive. It's how they earn their money. Us ladies are earning NOTHING from sharing our stories... God Bless you! - On 7/6/07, laurie20007 <jayme200@...> wrote: Hello,I just joined this group because I am seriously considering getting saline implants.

I am 48 years old and have a good body but would love to have the very full beautiful breasts to go w/it. I have been contemplating implants for at least 10 years now so this would not be a spur of the momemt decision.I have read all kinds of horror stories about autoimune disease and such but to be honest everyone (at least 20 people) I know has had implants from ranges of 1-20 years and not one of these women has had any kind of complaint whatsoever. They feel perfect as well as looking incredible. I feel very bad for the woman who have had problems but I am wondering if they would have eventually have gotten sick even if they did not receive the implants. The surgeons I spoke with told me that there is no scientific link at all between the two. (and the friends I have who are in perfect health seem to be evidence that they are correct in that statement.I am seeing a very well know surgeon next week and may

just decide to bit the bullet.Thank you.Laurie >> and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very down to earth but > there are sure are a lot of implants out there! Really makes me sad > because all I could think in seeing them was that they are all ticking > time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my natural breasts and > what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to have them out. > Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan> Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers.

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,

I totally agree with you on this. As much as I hate that other people are suffering as I am, It means the world to me that I am not alone.

I have you wonderful ladies, and a wonderful husband. At LEAST I KNOW i'm not crazy...

However, at this point I don't feel as though it is enough. I am just so unhappy.

I have been blessed with so much, and yet I can't even enjoy myself b/c I am so sick... and then MENTALLY SICK of BEING SICK!

I just don't know what to do anymore...

I have tried every diet, detox, etc... and nothing has worked. Some have made me a " little " better... but I'm still sick.

Now I am 10 weeks pregnant, and I'm dealing with those symptoms on top of everything else. I work, and think I'm going to lose my job any minute. I'm so tired, and I feel like i'm living an anxiety attack 24/7. I'm constantly out of breath, shake ALL the time... to the point that I drop things. My blood sugar levels rise and fall with NO stability... and i'm dizzy and lightheaded. Driving is difficult, even SLEEPING is now difficult. I wake up in the middle of the night b/c my heart is pounding so bad, I'm shaking, and I have to take a sugar pill...

I'm quickly losing hope... I don't know how much longer I can take this...

I THANK GOD that you women care!

-

On 7/9/07, cynthia pyne <pynerone@...> wrote:

.

God bless you ! I have also prayed for this, heal me or take me.

When I have my explant done I pray they get every bit of scar tissue and any lumps they find as well. I want this mess out of me, all of it.

I pray you get better. I hate knowing that you feel you're life is not worth living being so sick.

Last year I was so sick of being sick I went to the hospital. I told them to keep me because if they let me go that sick I wouldn't come back - ever. They backer acted me and sent me to our local nuthouse. I had given up the fight.

Well, I'm still here and I'm still sick. I have something now that I didn't have then, women like us. Although I am still sick I am not alone. This group has been my reason for getting out of bed most days. I love my new friends and I can do almost anything with their support, this includes you. Just knowing we feel the same pain gives us a bond of caring for each other.

Shoham <resultsbyrachelgmail> wrote:

Wow! So you're not explanted yet?

I'm very curious to see how you heal. I've been explanted for a little over 1 year... at first I started feeling a little better, now I feel the same as I did WITH the darn implants, EXCEPT that I have better peace of mind!

I feel as though I have no hope... no future... EVERY SINGLE DAY I am so miserable. As bad as it sounds, I pray that God will either heal me... or TAKE me. This is not living for me.

I pray that your recovery is AMAZING! It will give me hope!!!

With love,

On 7/9/07, katy mclean <thesuddendeparture@...

> wrote:

Hi ,I got my implants 2 months before my 19th birthday!! I was so young, I can't believe the surgeon did it for me... I suddenly came into a small inheritance and was living on my own and hastily got the implants:( My first symptom was a lymph node behind my ear that became chronically inflammed (now I have about a dozen of these). This happened in the first year...Then I began having major digestive issues which have been diagnosed as " IBS " and my thyroid levels were low. My symptoms crept up on me over the years and it took me so LONG to connect the implants. Besides the lymph nodes and digestive problems, I've had lots of the usual ones like " panic attacks " , vertigo, frequent colds and flus, allergies/sensitivites, low energy and fatigue, hypoglycemia, DRY eyes, hair loss, pallor, mouth ulcers and menstrual problems. In the first few years I actually went back to the surgeon who did my implants with worries about them and my health. Of course she told me it was all ridiculous and convinced me that they were completely fine. I think I felt " ok " enough because I was so young. I knew I got sick WAY more often than anyone else I knew and that was confusing. I went to specialists, naturopaths, chinese doctors, chiropractors and tried all kinds of treatments. Then I figured it out and I found this group. I'm on my way to getting my explant done and my health back! Katy:) Shoham <resultsbyrachelgmail > wrote:

Thanks, Katy!!! =)

I hope the same for you! I didn't know anyone on here was my age! Gosh, so good to know (not that it MATTERS! lol!)

How old were you when you got yours, and how did your symptoms begin, etc.?

-

On 7/7/07, katy mclean <thesuddendeparture@... > wrote:

,Getting implants is the ONE thing I regret doing in my life too. I think most women here would agree that it is such a regrettable decision. I relate to your experience with the Dr.s, I too look perfectly healthy from the outside... and am 29, so its hard to be taken seriously and get the tests done. I hope you continue to heal and feel better as time goes on. Katy:)

Shoham <resultsbyrachelgmail> wrote:

Laurie,

I truly understand your mentality. Before I got mine done, I had those very same thoughts and wonders...

That was about 9 years ago when I was just 19 years old. I was super healthy... was a trainer at a gym, competed in fitness competitions, (played soccer, basketball, track, and cheerleading in school) and was even FINE for the first 6 years being implanted! When I started to get sick, I had NO IDEA it was due to my implants!!! Why WOULD I??? I had had NO PROBLEMS for SIX YEARS!!! Besides, it did not SEAM linked!

I started getting very weak and tired, stomach problems, burning/tingling sensations, dizziness & lightheaded, shaking & trembling, cold sweats, blackouts, heart palpitations, irregular heartbeat & racing heartbeat, shortness of breath, low blood sugar... and this went ON and ON and ON! NOTHING seemed linked to one another and Dr's thought I was CRAZY!!! WHY? B/c I LOOKED healthy! Here was this 25 year old, 105 Lb., blond female who has a LONG LIST of symptoms! Know what they told me? To see a PSYCHOLOGIST!!! Do you even KNOW how difficult that is to hear when you KNOW you're NOT crazy??!!! Of COURSE there's been no scientific link... BECAUSE they won't spend the MONEY on it!! WHY? B/c it's political. It makes a LOT of money!

I've been explanted for an entire year and have gotten a LITTLE better, but I fear that most of the damage has already been made! I'm only 28 years old, and YES! I was PERFECTLY healthy before this!

I had SALINE implants... during explantation, they removed an enlarged lymph node to be biopsied and found FREE-FLOATING silicone spread throughout my lymphatic system! That's right! I have poison floating through my body. WHY?! B/c my body was eating at the shell... in hopes to get rid of the " foreign object " !

They ALSO found strange substances inside the saline (bacteria, mold, etc.)

And THAT is healthy?

What I fear is that some of the people you know DO have problems with their implants and either 1. Don't KNOW it yet OR 2. Problems haven't started YET.

True, there are people that I know that have had them for YEARS and have had zero problems. Do you REALLY want to take that risk, all in the name of VANITY???

After having them, I think they are entirely over-rated... and I LOVE having my old chest back. FINALLY, nothing foreign in my body that can " pop " at any moment.

The only reason I am very aggressive about this subject is b/c it is the ONE and ONLY thing in my life that I TRULY regret doing! I have to live like this for the rest of my life! I try and figure out WHY I haven't been healed, or WHY I was sooo stupid to get this done. The ONLY thing that makes it seem even at ALL worth it, is to have someone else learn from MY mistake.

I do not know you. I have NO reason to nor motive to keep you from being " happy " with your breasts. I am being truthful with my story, and hope you take it to heart. Whichever way you choose to go... remember, Dr's DO have motive. It's how they earn their money. Us ladies are earning NOTHING from sharing our stories...

God Bless you!

-

On 7/6/07, laurie20007 <jayme200@...> wrote:

Hello,I just joined this group because I am seriously considering getting saline implants. I am 48 years old and have a good body but would love to have the very full beautiful breasts to go w/it. I have been contemplating implants for at least 10 years now so this would not be a spur of the momemt decision.I have read all kinds of horror stories about autoimune disease and such but to be honest everyone (at least 20 people) I know has had implants from ranges of 1-20 years and not one of these women has had any kind of complaint whatsoever. They feel perfect as well as looking incredible. I feel very bad for the woman who have had problems but I am wondering if they would have eventually have gotten sick even if they did not receive the implants. The surgeons I spoke with told me that there is no scientific link at all between the two. (and the friends I have who are in perfect health seem to be evidence that they are correct in that statement.I am seeing a very well know surgeon next week and may just decide to bit the bullet.Thank you.Laurie

>> and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very down to earth but > there are sure are a lot of implants out there! Really makes me sad > because all I could think in seeing them was that they are all ticking > time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my natural breasts and > what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to have them out. > Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan>

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, Sweetie, you are not alone! I thought the doctors knew what they were talking about when they said I was bipolar and not really sick. I was on so many anti-depressants and psycho meds that I was crazy! I stopped all meds back in Oct. 2006 and I am finally thinking straight again. They had me believing I was crazy. I can understand your feelings about being so unhappy although you have beautiful things in your life. I have 4 beautiful children that are my life, but at times I thought my baby girl would be better off without me because I didn't think I had anything to offer her. Sick and in bed all the time not being able to play with her was getting to me. When she started pre-K this year they said everyday how smart she was and I realized it was because we stayed in bed and read books, played games, and put puzzles together. I had given her the gift of early

learning. We don't always know what God's plans are for us, but I have to believe this illness is a part of my journey and it has a purpose for the good in the end. I have to be patient and learn what I need to learn. I will meet people along the way, such as yourself that are now apart of my journey. We are not alone, we have each other ! I will continues to pray for you and send positive healing energy your way. Love Shoham <resultsbyrachel@...> wrote: , I totally agree with you on this. As much as I hate that other people are suffering as I am, It means the world to me that I am not alone. I have you wonderful ladies, and a wonderful husband. At LEAST I KNOW i'm not crazy... However, at this point I don't feel as though it is enough. I am just so unhappy. I have been blessed with so much, and yet I can't even enjoy myself b/c I am so sick... and then MENTALLY SICK of BEING SICK! I just don't know what to do anymore... I have tried every diet, detox, etc... and nothing has worked. Some have made me a "little" better... but I'm still sick. Now I am 10 weeks pregnant, and I'm dealing with those symptoms on top of everything else. I work, and think I'm going to lose my job any minute. I'm so tired, and I feel like i'm living an anxiety attack 24/7. I'm constantly out of breath, shake ALL the time... to the point that I drop things. My blood sugar levels rise and fall with NO stability... and i'm dizzy and lightheaded. Driving is difficult, even SLEEPING is now difficult. I wake up in the middle of the night b/c my heart is pounding so bad,

I'm shaking, and I have to take a sugar pill... I'm quickly losing hope... I don't know how much longer I can take this... I THANK GOD that you women care! - On 7/9/07, cynthia pyne <pynerone@...> wrote: . God bless you ! I have also prayed for this, heal me or take me. When I have my explant done I pray they get every bit of scar tissue and any lumps they find as

well. I want this mess out of me, all of it. I pray you get better. I hate knowing that you feel you're life is not worth living being so sick. Last year I was so sick of being sick I went to the hospital. I told them to keep me because if they let me go that sick I wouldn't come back - ever. They backer acted me and sent me to our local nuthouse. I had given up the fight. Well, I'm still here and I'm still sick. I have something now that I didn't have then, women like us. Although I am still sick I am not alone. This group has been my reason for getting out of bed most days. I love my new friends and I can do almost anything with their support, this includes you. Just knowing we feel the same pain gives us a bond of caring for each other. Shoham <resultsbyrachelgmail> wrote: Wow! So you're not explanted yet? I'm very curious to see how you heal. I've been explanted for a little over 1 year... at first I started feeling a little better, now I feel the same as I did WITH the darn implants, EXCEPT that I have better peace of mind! I feel as though I have no hope... no future... EVERY SINGLE DAY I am so miserable. As bad as it sounds, I pray that God will either heal me... or TAKE me. This is not living for me. I pray that your recovery is AMAZING! It will give me hope!!! With love, On 7/9/07, katy mclean <thesuddendeparture@... > wrote: Hi ,I got my implants 2 months before my 19th birthday!! I was so young, I can't believe the surgeon did it for me... I suddenly came into a small inheritance and was living on my own and hastily got the implants:( My first symptom was a lymph node behind my ear that became chronically inflammed (now I have about a dozen of these). This happened in the first year...Then I began having major digestive issues which have been diagnosed as "IBS" and my thyroid levels were low. My symptoms crept up on me over the years and it took me so LONG to connect the implants.

Besides the lymph nodes and digestive problems, I've had lots of the usual ones like "panic attacks", vertigo, frequent colds and flus, allergies/sensitivites, low energy and fatigue, hypoglycemia, DRY eyes, hair loss, pallor, mouth ulcers and menstrual problems. In the first few years I actually went back to the surgeon who did my implants with worries about them and my health. Of course she told me it was all ridiculous and convinced me that they were completely fine. I think I felt "ok" enough because I was so young. I knew I got sick WAY more often than anyone else I knew and that was confusing. I went to specialists, naturopaths, chinese doctors, chiropractors and tried all kinds of treatments. Then I figured it out and I found this group. I'm on my way to getting my explant done and my health back! Katy:) Shoham <resultsbyrachelgmail > wrote: Thanks, Katy!!! =) I hope the same for you! I didn't know anyone on here was my age! Gosh, so good to know (not that it MATTERS! lol!) How old were you when you got yours, and how did your symptoms begin, etc.? - On 7/7/07, katy mclean <thesuddendeparture@... > wrote: ,Getting implants is the ONE thing I regret

doing in my life too. I think most women here would agree that it is such a regrettable decision. I relate to your experience with the Dr.s, I too look perfectly healthy from the outside... and am 29, so its hard to be taken seriously and get the tests done. I hope you continue to heal and feel better as time goes on. Katy:) Shoham <resultsbyrachelgmail> wrote: Laurie, I truly understand your mentality. Before I got mine done, I had those very same thoughts and wonders... That was about 9 years ago when I was just 19 years old. I was super healthy... was a trainer at a gym, competed in fitness competitions, (played soccer, basketball, track, and

cheerleading in school) and was even FINE for the first 6 years being implanted! When I started to get sick, I had NO IDEA it was due to my implants!!! Why WOULD I??? I had had NO PROBLEMS for SIX YEARS!!! Besides, it did not SEAM linked! I started getting very weak and tired, stomach problems, burning/tingling sensations, dizziness & lightheaded, shaking & trembling, cold sweats, blackouts, heart palpitations, irregular heartbeat & racing heartbeat, shortness of breath, low blood sugar... and this went ON and ON and ON! NOTHING seemed linked to one another and Dr's thought I was CRAZY!!! WHY? B/c I LOOKED healthy! Here was this 25 year old, 105 Lb., blond female who has a LONG LIST of symptoms! Know what they told me? To see a PSYCHOLOGIST!!! Do you even KNOW how difficult that is to hear when you KNOW you're NOT crazy??!!! Of COURSE there's been no scientific link...

BECAUSE they won't spend the MONEY on it!! WHY? B/c it's political. It makes a LOT of money! I've been explanted for an entire year and have gotten a LITTLE better, but I fear that most of the damage has already been made! I'm only 28 years old, and YES! I was PERFECTLY healthy before this! I had SALINE implants... during explantation, they removed an enlarged lymph node to be biopsied and found FREE-FLOATING silicone spread throughout my lymphatic system! That's right! I have poison floating through my body. WHY?! B/c my body was eating at the shell... in hopes to get rid of the "foreign object"! They ALSO found strange substances inside the saline (bacteria, mold, etc.) And THAT is healthy? What I fear is that some of the people you know DO have problems with their implants and either 1. Don't KNOW it yet OR 2. Problems haven't started

YET. True, there are people that I know that have had them for YEARS and have had zero problems. Do you REALLY want to take that risk, all in the name of VANITY??? After having them, I think they are entirely over-rated... and I LOVE having my old chest back. FINALLY, nothing foreign in my body that can "pop" at any moment. The only reason I am very aggressive about this subject is b/c it is the ONE and ONLY thing in my life that I TRULY regret doing! I have to live like this for the rest of my life! I try and figure out WHY I haven't been healed, or WHY I was sooo stupid to get this done. The ONLY thing that makes it seem even at ALL worth it, is to have someone else learn from MY mistake. I do not know you. I have NO reason to nor motive to keep you from being "happy" with your breasts. I am being truthful with my story, and hope you take it to

heart. Whichever way you choose to go... remember, Dr's DO have motive. It's how they earn their money. Us ladies are earning NOTHING from sharing our stories... God Bless you! - On 7/6/07, laurie20007 <jayme200@...> wrote: Hello,I just joined this group because I am seriously considering getting saline implants. I am 48 years old and have a good body but would love to have the very full beautiful breasts to go w/it. I have been contemplating implants for at least 10 years now so this would not be a spur of

the momemt decision.I have read all kinds of horror stories about autoimune disease and such but to be honest everyone (at least 20 people) I know has had implants from ranges of 1-20 years and not one of these women has had any kind of complaint whatsoever. They feel perfect as well as looking incredible. I feel very bad for the woman who have had problems but I am wondering if they would have eventually have gotten sick even if they did not receive the implants. The surgeons I spoke with told me that there is no scientific link at all between the two. (and the friends I have who are in perfect health seem to be evidence that they are correct in that statement.I am seeing a very well know surgeon next week and may just decide to bit the bullet.Thank you.Laurie >> and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very down to earth but > there are sure are a lot of implants out there! Really makes me sad > because all I could think in seeing them was that they are all ticking > time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my natural breasts and > what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to have them out. > Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan> Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.

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,

I thank you for your thoughts and prayers!

I know that I am not alone... and that there ARE positives to be found in every situation. I'm having an INCREDIBLY difficult time trying to find those positives right now. I go through phases appreciating lessons learned, etc...

but that positive thinking never remains.

I tend to have flash backs of my " old life " . Days when I didn't have a care in the world, except what I was going to wear, etc. I'm only 28 years old!!!

Most of my friends still go out, travel, experience LIFE! Not me... I'm too scared I'll pass out, or that I'll have an " episode " (my name for my attacks... WHATEVER they are!)

Ahh... I do thank you ALL for your replys! It truly helps for me to speak to all of you!

I WISH that there were a day that we could ALL have a gathering... a " get together " , to meet one another in person!

-

On 7/9/07, cynthia pyne <pynerone@...> wrote:

,

Sweetie, you are not alone!

I thought the doctors knew what they were talking about when they said I was bipolar and not really sick. I was on so many anti-depressants and psycho meds that I was crazy!

I stopped all meds back in Oct. 2006 and I am finally thinking straight again. They had me believing I was crazy.

I can understand your feelings about being so unhappy although you have beautiful things in your life. I have 4 beautiful children that are my life, but at times I thought my baby girl would be better off without me because I didn't think I had anything to offer her. Sick and in bed all the time not being able to play with her was getting to me. When she started pre-K this year they said everyday how smart she was and I realized it was because we stayed in bed and read books, played games, and put puzzles together. I had given her the gift of early learning.

We don't always know what God's plans are for us, but I have to believe this illness is a part of my journey and it has a purpose for the good in the end. I have to be patient and learn what I need to learn. I will meet people along the way, such as yourself that are now apart of my journey. We are not alone, we have each other ! I will continues to pray for you and send positive healing energy your way.

Love Shoham <resultsbyrachelgmail> wrote:

,

I totally agree with you on this. As much as I hate that other people are suffering as I am, It means the world to me that I am not alone.

I have you wonderful ladies, and a wonderful husband. At LEAST I KNOW i'm not crazy...

However, at this point I don't feel as though it is enough. I am just so unhappy.

I have been blessed with so much, and yet I can't even enjoy myself b/c I am so sick... and then MENTALLY SICK of BEING SICK!

I just don't know what to do anymore...

I have tried every diet, detox, etc... and nothing has worked. Some have made me a " little " better... but I'm still sick.

Now I am 10 weeks pregnant, and I'm dealing with those symptoms on top of everything else. I work, and think I'm going to lose my job any minute. I'm so tired, and I feel like i'm living an anxiety attack 24/7. I'm constantly out of breath, shake ALL the time... to the point that I drop things. My blood sugar levels rise and fall with NO stability... and i'm dizzy and lightheaded. Driving is difficult, even SLEEPING is now difficult. I wake up in the middle of the night b/c my heart is pounding so bad, I'm shaking, and I have to take a sugar pill...

I'm quickly losing hope... I don't know how much longer I can take this...

I THANK GOD that you women care!

-

On 7/9/07, cynthia pyne <pynerone@...

> wrote:

.

God bless you ! I have also prayed for this, heal me or take me.

When I have my explant done I pray they get every bit of scar tissue and any lumps they find as well. I want this mess out of me, all of it.

I pray you get better. I hate knowing that you feel you're life is not worth living being so sick.

Last year I was so sick of being sick I went to the hospital. I told them to keep me because if they let me go that sick I wouldn't come back - ever. They backer acted me and sent me to our local nuthouse. I had given up the fight.

Well, I'm still here and I'm still sick. I have something now that I didn't have then, women like us. Although I am still sick I am not alone. This group has been my reason for getting out of bed most days. I love my new friends and I can do almost anything with their support, this includes you. Just knowing we feel the same pain gives us a bond of caring for each other.

Shoham <resultsbyrachelgmail> wrote:

Wow! So you're not explanted yet?

I'm very curious to see how you heal. I've been explanted for a little over 1 year... at first I started feeling a little better, now I feel the same as I did WITH the darn implants, EXCEPT that I have better peace of mind!

I feel as though I have no hope... no future... EVERY SINGLE DAY I am so miserable. As bad as it sounds, I pray that God will either heal me... or TAKE me. This is not living for me.

I pray that your recovery is AMAZING! It will give me hope!!!

With love,

On 7/9/07, katy mclean <thesuddendeparture@... > wrote:

Hi ,I got my implants 2 months before my 19th birthday!! I was so young, I can't believe the surgeon did it for me... I suddenly came into a small inheritance and was living on my own and hastily got the implants:( My first symptom was a lymph node behind my ear that became chronically inflammed (now I have about a dozen of these). This happened in the first year...Then I began having major digestive issues which have been diagnosed as " IBS " and my thyroid levels were low. My symptoms crept up on me over the years and it took me so LONG to connect the implants. Besides the lymph nodes and digestive problems, I've had lots of the usual ones like " panic attacks " , vertigo, frequent colds and flus, allergies/sensitivites, low energy and fatigue, hypoglycemia, DRY eyes, hair loss, pallor, mouth ulcers and menstrual problems. In the first few years I actually went back to the surgeon who did my implants with worries about them and my health. Of course she told me it was all ridiculous and convinced me that they were completely fine. I think I felt " ok " enough because I was so young. I knew I got sick WAY more often than anyone else I knew and that was confusing. I went to specialists, naturopaths, chinese doctors, chiropractors and tried all kinds of treatments. Then I figured it out and I found this group. I'm on my way to getting my explant done and my health back! Katy:) Shoham <resultsbyrachelgmail > wrote:

Thanks, Katy!!! =)

I hope the same for you! I didn't know anyone on here was my age! Gosh, so good to know (not that it MATTERS! lol!)

How old were you when you got yours, and how did your symptoms begin, etc.?

-

On 7/7/07, katy mclean <thesuddendeparture@... > wrote:

,Getting implants is the ONE thing I regret doing in my life too. I think most women here would agree that it is such a regrettable decision. I relate to your experience with the Dr.s, I too look perfectly healthy from the outside... and am 29, so its hard to be taken seriously and get the tests done. I hope you continue to heal and feel better as time goes on. Katy:)

Shoham <resultsbyrachelgmail> wrote:

Laurie,

I truly understand your mentality. Before I got mine done, I had those very same thoughts and wonders...

That was about 9 years ago when I was just 19 years old. I was super healthy... was a trainer at a gym, competed in fitness competitions, (played soccer, basketball, track, and cheerleading in school) and was even FINE for the first 6 years being implanted! When I started to get sick, I had NO IDEA it was due to my implants!!! Why WOULD I??? I had had NO PROBLEMS for SIX YEARS!!! Besides, it did not SEAM linked!

I started getting very weak and tired, stomach problems, burning/tingling sensations, dizziness & lightheaded, shaking & trembling, cold sweats, blackouts, heart palpitations, irregular heartbeat & racing heartbeat, shortness of breath, low blood sugar... and this went ON and ON and ON! NOTHING seemed linked to one another and Dr's thought I was CRAZY!!! WHY? B/c I LOOKED healthy! Here was this 25 year old, 105 Lb., blond female who has a LONG LIST of symptoms! Know what they told me? To see a PSYCHOLOGIST!!! Do you even KNOW how difficult that is to hear when you KNOW you're NOT crazy??!!! Of COURSE there's been no scientific link... BECAUSE they won't spend the MONEY on it!! WHY? B/c it's political. It makes a LOT of money!

I've been explanted for an entire year and have gotten a LITTLE better, but I fear that most of the damage has already been made! I'm only 28 years old, and YES! I was PERFECTLY healthy before this!

I had SALINE implants... during explantation, they removed an enlarged lymph node to be biopsied and found FREE-FLOATING silicone spread throughout my lymphatic system! That's right! I have poison floating through my body. WHY?! B/c my body was eating at the shell... in hopes to get rid of the " foreign object " !

They ALSO found strange substances inside the saline (bacteria, mold, etc.)

And THAT is healthy?

What I fear is that some of the people you know DO have problems with their implants and either 1. Don't KNOW it yet OR 2. Problems haven't started YET.

True, there are people that I know that have had them for YEARS and have had zero problems. Do you REALLY want to take that risk, all in the name of VANITY???

After having them, I think they are entirely over-rated... and I LOVE having my old chest back. FINALLY, nothing foreign in my body that can " pop " at any moment.

The only reason I am very aggressive about this subject is b/c it is the ONE and ONLY thing in my life that I TRULY regret doing! I have to live like this for the rest of my life! I try and figure out WHY I haven't been healed, or WHY I was sooo stupid to get this done. The ONLY thing that makes it seem even at ALL worth it, is to have someone else learn from MY mistake.

I do not know you. I have NO reason to nor motive to keep you from being " happy " with your breasts. I am being truthful with my story, and hope you take it to heart. Whichever way you choose to go... remember, Dr's DO have motive. It's how they earn their money. Us ladies are earning NOTHING from sharing our stories...

God Bless you!

-

On 7/6/07, laurie20007 <jayme200@...> wrote:

Hello,I just joined this group because I am seriously considering getting saline implants. I am 48 years old and have a good body but would love to have the very full beautiful breasts to go w/it. I have been contemplating implants for at least 10 years now so this would not be a spur of the momemt decision.I have read all kinds of horror stories about autoimune disease and such but to be honest everyone (at least 20 people) I know has had implants from ranges of 1-20 years and not one of these women has had any kind of complaint whatsoever. They feel perfect as well as looking incredible. I feel very bad for the woman who have had problems but I am wondering if they would have eventually have gotten sick even if they did not receive the implants. The surgeons I spoke with told me that there is no scientific link at all between the two. (and the friends I have who are in perfect health seem to be evidence that they are correct in that statement.I am seeing a very well know surgeon next week and may just decide to bit the bullet.Thank you.Laurie

>> and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very down to earth but > there are sure are a lot of implants out there! Really makes me sad > because all I could think in seeing them was that they are all ticking > time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my natural breasts and > what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to have them out. > Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan>

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, It would be fun to hang out with everyone wouldn't it ! Dede and Sandy would have us rolling with laughter the whole time. Shoham <resultsbyrachel@...> wrote: , I thank you for your thoughts and prayers! I know that I am not alone... and that there ARE positives to be found in every situation. I'm having an INCREDIBLY difficult time trying to find those positives right now. I go through phases appreciating lessons learned, etc... but that positive thinking never remains. I tend to have flash backs of my "old life". Days when I didn't have a care in the world, except what I was going to wear, etc. I'm only 28 years old!!! Most of my friends still go out, travel, experience LIFE! Not me... I'm too scared I'll pass out, or that I'll have an "episode" (my name for my attacks... WHATEVER they are!) Ahh... I do thank you ALL for your replys! It truly helps for me to speak to all of you! I WISH that there were a day that we could ALL have a gathering... a "get together", to meet one another in person! - On 7/9/07, cynthia pyne <pynerone@...> wrote: , Sweetie, you are not alone! I thought the doctors knew what they were talking about when they said I was bipolar and not really sick. I was on so many anti-depressants and psycho meds that I was crazy! I stopped all meds back in Oct. 2006 and I am finally thinking straight again. They had me believing I was crazy. I can understand your feelings about being so unhappy although you have beautiful things in your life. I have 4 beautiful children that are my life, but at times I thought my baby girl would be better off without me because I didn't think I had anything to offer her. Sick and in bed all the time not being able to play with her was getting to me. When she started pre-K this year they said everyday how smart she was and I realized it was because we stayed in bed and read books, played games, and put puzzles together. I had given her the gift

of early learning. We don't always know what God's plans are for us, but I have to believe this illness is a part of my journey and it has a purpose for the good in the end. I have to be patient and learn what I need to learn. I will meet people along the way, such as yourself that are now apart of my journey. We are not alone, we have each other ! I will continues to pray for you and send positive healing energy your way. Love Shoham <resultsbyrachelgmail> wrote: , I totally agree with you on this. As much as I hate that other people are suffering as I

am, It means the world to me that I am not alone. I have you wonderful ladies, and a wonderful husband. At LEAST I KNOW i'm not crazy... However, at this point I don't feel as though it is enough. I am just so unhappy. I have been blessed with so much, and yet I can't even enjoy myself b/c I am so sick... and then MENTALLY SICK of BEING SICK! I just don't know what to do anymore... I have tried every diet, detox, etc... and nothing has worked. Some have made me a "little" better... but I'm still sick. Now I am 10 weeks pregnant, and I'm dealing with those symptoms on top of everything else. I work, and think I'm going to lose my job any minute. I'm so tired, and I feel like i'm living an anxiety attack 24/7. I'm constantly out of breath, shake ALL the time... to the point that I drop things. My blood sugar levels rise and fall with NO stability... and i'm

dizzy and lightheaded. Driving is difficult, even SLEEPING is now difficult. I wake up in the middle of the night b/c my heart is pounding so bad, I'm shaking, and I have to take a sugar pill... I'm quickly losing hope... I don't know how much longer I can take this... I THANK GOD that you women care! - On 7/9/07, cynthia pyne <pynerone@... > wrote: . God bless you ! I have also prayed for this, heal me or take me. When I have my explant done I pray they get

every bit of scar tissue and any lumps they find as well. I want this mess out of me, all of it. I pray you get better. I hate knowing that you feel you're life is not worth living being so sick. Last year I was so sick of being sick I went to the hospital. I told them to keep me because if they let me go that sick I wouldn't come back - ever. They backer acted me and sent me to our local nuthouse. I had given up the fight. Well, I'm still here and I'm still sick. I have something now that I didn't have then, women like us. Although I am still sick I am not alone. This group has been my reason for getting out of bed most days. I love my new friends and I can do almost anything with their support, this includes you. Just knowing we feel the same pain gives us a bond of caring for each other. Shoham

<resultsbyrachelgmail> wrote: Wow! So you're not explanted yet? I'm very curious to see how you heal. I've been explanted for a little over 1 year... at first I started feeling a little better, now I feel the same as I did WITH the darn implants, EXCEPT that I have better peace of mind! I feel as though I have no hope... no future... EVERY SINGLE DAY I am so miserable. As bad as it sounds, I pray that God will either heal me... or TAKE me. This is not living for me. I pray that your recovery is AMAZING! It will give me hope!!! With love, On 7/9/07, katy mclean <thesuddendeparture@... > wrote: Hi ,I got my implants 2 months before my 19th birthday!! I was so young, I can't believe the surgeon did it for me... I suddenly came into a small inheritance and was living on my own and hastily got the implants:( My first symptom was a lymph node behind my ear that became chronically inflammed (now I have about a dozen of these). This happened in the first year...Then I began having major digestive issues which have been diagnosed as "IBS" and my thyroid levels were low. My symptoms crept up on me over the years and it took me so LONG to connect the implants. Besides the

lymph nodes and digestive problems, I've had lots of the usual ones like "panic attacks", vertigo, frequent colds and flus, allergies/sensitivites, low energy and fatigue, hypoglycemia, DRY eyes, hair loss, pallor, mouth ulcers and menstrual problems. In the first few years I actually went back to the surgeon who did my implants with worries about them and my health. Of course she told me it was all ridiculous and convinced me that they were completely fine. I think I felt "ok" enough because I was so young. I knew I got sick WAY more often than anyone else I knew and that was confusing. I went to specialists, naturopaths, chinese doctors, chiropractors and tried all kinds of treatments. Then I figured it out and I found this group. I'm on my way to getting my explant done and my health back! Katy:) Shoham <resultsbyrachelgmail > wrote: Thanks, Katy!!! =) I hope the same for you! I didn't know anyone on here was my age! Gosh, so good to know (not that it MATTERS! lol!) How old were you when you got yours, and how did your symptoms begin, etc.? - On 7/7/07, katy mclean <thesuddendeparture@... > wrote: ,Getting implants is the ONE thing I regret

doing in my life too. I think most women here would agree that it is such a regrettable decision. I relate to your experience with the Dr.s, I too look perfectly healthy from the outside... and am 29, so its hard to be taken seriously and get the tests done. I hope you continue to heal and feel better as time goes on. Katy:) Shoham <resultsbyrachelgmail> wrote: Laurie, I truly understand your mentality. Before I got mine done, I had those very same thoughts and wonders... That was about 9 years ago when I was just 19 years old. I was super healthy... was a trainer at a gym, competed in fitness competitions, (played soccer, basketball, track, and

cheerleading in school) and was even FINE for the first 6 years being implanted! When I started to get sick, I had NO IDEA it was due to my implants!!! Why WOULD I??? I had had NO PROBLEMS for SIX YEARS!!! Besides, it did not SEAM linked! I started getting very weak and tired, stomach problems, burning/tingling sensations, dizziness & lightheaded, shaking & trembling, cold sweats, blackouts, heart palpitations, irregular heartbeat & racing heartbeat, shortness of breath, low blood sugar... and this went ON and ON and ON! NOTHING seemed linked to one another and Dr's thought I was CRAZY!!! WHY? B/c I LOOKED healthy! Here was this 25 year old, 105 Lb., blond female who has a LONG LIST of symptoms! Know what they told me? To see a PSYCHOLOGIST!!! Do you even KNOW how difficult that is to hear when you KNOW you're NOT crazy??!!! Of COURSE there's been no scientific link...

BECAUSE they won't spend the MONEY on it!! WHY? B/c it's political. It makes a LOT of money! I've been explanted for an entire year and have gotten a LITTLE better, but I fear that most of the damage has already been made! I'm only 28 years old, and YES! I was PERFECTLY healthy before this! I had SALINE implants... during explantation, they removed an enlarged lymph node to be biopsied and found FREE-FLOATING silicone spread throughout my lymphatic system! That's right! I have poison floating through my body. WHY?! B/c my body was eating at the shell... in hopes to get rid of the "foreign object"! They ALSO found strange substances inside the saline (bacteria, mold, etc.) And THAT is healthy? What I fear is that some of the people you know DO have problems with their implants and either 1. Don't KNOW it yet OR 2. Problems haven't started

YET. True, there are people that I know that have had them for YEARS and have had zero problems. Do you REALLY want to take that risk, all in the name of VANITY??? After having them, I think they are entirely over-rated... and I LOVE having my old chest back. FINALLY, nothing foreign in my body that can "pop" at any moment. The only reason I am very aggressive about this subject is b/c it is the ONE and ONLY thing in my life that I TRULY regret doing! I have to live like this for the rest of my life! I try and figure out WHY I haven't been healed, or WHY I was sooo stupid to get this done. The ONLY thing that makes it seem even at ALL worth it, is to have someone else learn from MY mistake. I do not know you. I have NO reason to nor motive to keep you from being "happy" with your breasts. I am being truthful with my story, and hope you take it to

heart. Whichever way you choose to go... remember, Dr's DO have motive. It's how they earn their money. Us ladies are earning NOTHING from sharing our stories... God Bless you! - On 7/6/07, laurie20007 <jayme200@...> wrote: Hello,I just joined this group because I am seriously considering getting saline implants. I am 48 years old and have a good body but would love to have the very full beautiful breasts to go w/it. I have been contemplating implants for at least 10 years now so this would not be a spur of

the momemt decision.I have read all kinds of horror stories about autoimune disease and such but to be honest everyone (at least 20 people) I know has had implants from ranges of 1-20 years and not one of these women has had any kind of complaint whatsoever. They feel perfect as well as looking incredible. I feel very bad for the woman who have had problems but I am wondering if they would have eventually have gotten sick even if they did not receive the implants. The surgeons I spoke with told me that there is no scientific link at all between the two. (and the friends I have who are in perfect health seem to be evidence that they are correct in that statement.I am seeing a very well know surgeon next week and may just decide to bit the bullet.Thank you.Laurie >> and wow, I live in a very conservative area and very down to earth but > there are sure are a lot of implants out there! Really makes me sad > because all I could think in seeing them was that they are all ticking > time bombs. I was so happy in my swimsuit with my natural breasts and > what a weird feeling, thinking how LUCKY I am to have them out. > Strange thing to be grateful for! Nan> Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Be a PS3 game guru.Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games.

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