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I don't know the answer to any of your questions, but when he gets home,

I'll ask my husband. He may know. I understand the problems with distance

and small child, I was so lucky to live in a metro area and find the right

person to treat me back then. Now, I think 50% of all the

acupuncturists/herbalists in the US are right here in the SF Bay area! What

a practice Bart would have if we moved. We have friends elsewhere that wait

a month for an appointment.

Terry

>

> Reply-To: graves_support

> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:59:47 -0700

> To: <graves_support >

> Subject: Re: vaccines

>

> Hi Terry-

>

> Thankyou for the info. I don't know if I'd have the will to do that so

> often (I would if there was someone up here) because it takes so long to

> drive into town. And with a 5 year old (need I say more?).

>

> I'm also curious if they'd treat a thyroidless person the same way they'd

> treat a person with a thyroid. I've read a study where they induced PCOS in

> rats by rendering them hypothyroid. The PCOS was reversed once the rats

> were euthyroid again. Even though I'm supposed to be " euthyroid " on

> replacement meds, I still have many hypothyroid symptoms. I'm beginning to

> think that something is blocking my cell's use of thyroid hormone. And I'll

> never have a functional thyroid again (unless they start transplanting them)

> no matter what I do. It's gone. Do you know if they'd treat people like me

> the same way? All this endocrine stuff is tied together and I'm missing a

> pretty important part of it.

>

> I wasn't sure I had PCOS until I had a special ultrasound that positively

> showed the cysts (rice krispies is a good analogy). The abdominal

> ultrasound had always showed normal-sized ovaries. And I've never had

> irregular periods. The lab tests never fit so I had my doubts before.

>

> Thanks again. You can't discount that Chinese medicine often has beneficial

> effects. All medicine started with finding something that worked and

> running with it. Heck, with western medicine they'll sometimes find

> something that works but don't know why. And then they start using it.

>

> Take care,

>

>

>

>

>> ,

>>

>> Sorry to take so long, I've been working non-stop for the last few days

> and

>> got myself into the exhausted realm briefly. Catering is like that, either

>> dead quiet or swamped. Another few weeks and I slow way down again.

>>

>> Briefly, I was diagnosed by my gyn way back in about 1975, when my oldest

>> was 3 years old. I had classic symptoms including sudden facial hair,

>> thickening waist, lowering voice, and my period stopped dead. I honestly

>> don't remember all the tests they ran, probably blood work I guess, but I

>> remember the little drawing she made of an ovary with what looked like

> rice

>> crispies all over it. I also remember being offered some treatment options

>> but I don't remember exactly what they were, only that I was freaked out

> and

>> immersed in my doctor-phobia, and also at the time, living very

>> hand-to-mouth, short-order cooking single mom of a 3 year old, no med

>> insurance, and my head in a bad place. I do remember a full year without a

>> period.

>>

>> As I mentioned, I short-order cooked, and did it right in front of the

>> counter where customers sat. I did breakfast/lunch shift, and had many

>> " regulars " . One who I got to know was an acupuncturist, one of the first

> in

>> the area, Zeiger. He was initially a pharmacologist, and had a

> fairly

>> small, new practice as an acupuncturist and herbalist at the time.

>>

>> I'm sure I was upset enough over all of this that it showed, and I've no

>> real memory how we started talking about it--but he decided to treat me,

> at

>> minimal charge since I had no money. I saw him for 6 months, every 5 days

>> for acupuncture and boiled his herbal concoctions and drank them

> faithfully.

>> The symptoms gradually disappeared, my period came back, and it was gone.

>> Gone so completely that the gyn. who had taken over my old one's practice

>> and who I still see, didn't believe I ever had PCOS despite all the

> records.

>>

>> Anyway, that's what started me trusting Chinese medicine. While it's not

>> perfect, it cured me, it cured my son's horrible asthma, and at this

> point,

>> it keeps me in far better shape than I imagine I'd be in without it. Hope

>> this helps!

>>

>> Terry

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  • 2 years later...

There have been a couple of posts about clinical trials and vaccines

lately (thank you Donna). I would really love to hear from anyone

involved, or knowing of anyone involved in one of these trials. We

have been considering such a trial. Thanks,

Laurie

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