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I am not sure if this is what is going on

with you, but a few years ago, I was having very strange breathing episodes at

night. I would wake up in the middle of the night gasping for air, like I was

choking, and I would run to the bathroom to get a drink of water (while

basically still sleeping). This would happen 2 sometimes 3 times a night. It

was almost like a panic attack while sleeping. I had a sleep study done,

hoping it would happen while I was there, and of course – it didn’t.

This has not happened to me for a while, so I’m not sure if it was

thyroid related or what. I’m on 100 mcg of Synthroid so maybe it’s

actually working for me. 25 mcg is a very low dose – why do they even

bother? I’m sure your new labs will show that 25 is doing squat for you,

other than making you worse and exhausted, no wonder you are depressed!!. What

were the results of your sleep study? (I think you had one, right?).

Carol

From:

Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004

12:16 PM

To: The_Thyroid_Support_Group

Subject:

breathing/sleep issues

I would like to hear from those who had breathing

issues especially

at night while trying to sleep. Did you awake out

of breath? Did you

fall asleep, dream and wake up 5mins later, and

then repeat the

process for hours? I am looking for a ray of hope here.

I am still on

25mcgs of Synthroid (been on that dose for one

month). I just had my

blood drawn Friday and will know where I stand. I

am sure he will

increase my Syn as 25 is very low. I have been

very depressed today.

I feel like I want to sit in a corner and cry my

eyes out. I don't

know if it is not having enough meds or sadness

over my situation. I

hope all of the S**T is from the meds not being

right instead of some

other problem. It has been going on for about 3

months. A got maybe

3hours sleep last night. All adrenal tests are

normal, even the pupil

test, bp test, and scratch test.

P.S. I am fat, but I don't snore much and I am not

loud when I

do...so I have been told.

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Carol,

The study is set for the 14th. I already thought that it will

probably occur on a good night. But we shall see. They started me on

25mcgs because I could not handle any Armour. I am one of the few

people that actually started on Armour not Synthroid. The doc wants

to go slowly with me because of how I did on the Armour. I agree that

I probably need to increase. I asked the doc on the phone last week

if I should increase, he said to wait until my visit on 12/9. My

blood was drawn last Friday.

I hope this lack of sleep and breathing thing goes away, it really

sucks!!!

> -

>

> I am not sure if this is what is going on with you, but a few years

ago, I

> was having very strange breathing episodes at night. I would wake

up in the

> middle of the night gasping for air, like I was choking, and I

would run to

> the bathroom to get a drink of water (while basically still

sleeping). This

> would happen 2 sometimes 3 times a night. It was almost like a

panic attack

> while sleeping. I had a sleep study done, hoping it would happen

while I

> was there, and of course - it didn't. This has not happened to me

for a

> while, so I'm not sure if it was thyroid related or what. I'm on

100 mcg of

> Synthroid so maybe it's actually working for me. 25 mcg is a very

low dose -

> why do they even bother? I'm sure your new labs will show that 25

is doing

> squat for you, other than making you worse and exhausted, no wonder

you are

> depressed!!. What were the results of your sleep study? (I think

you had

> one, right?).

>

>

>

> Carol

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto:garyland@y...]

> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 12:16 PM

> To: The_Thyroid_Support_Group

> Subject: breathing/sleep issues

>

>

>

>

> I would like to hear from those who had breathing issues especially

> at night while trying to sleep. Did you awake out of breath? Did

you

> fall asleep, dream and wake up 5mins later, and then repeat the

> process for hours? I am looking for a ray of hope here. I am still

on

> 25mcgs of Synthroid (been on that dose for one month). I just had

my

> blood drawn Friday and will know where I stand. I am sure he will

> increase my Syn as 25 is very low. I have been very depressed

today.

> I feel like I want to sit in a corner and cry my eyes out. I don't

> know if it is not having enough meds or sadness over my situation.

I

> hope all of the S**T is from the meds not being right instead of

some

> other problem. It has been going on for about 3 months. A got maybe

> 3hours sleep last night. All adrenal tests are normal, even the

pupil

> test, bp test, and scratch test.

>

>

>

> P.S. I am fat, but I don't snore much and I am not loud when I

> do...so I have been told.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Please refresh us, , on how the Armour affected you-- your dosage, etc,

too ....

Thanks

Feisty

breathing/sleep issues

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I would like to hear from those who had breathing issues especially

> > at night while trying to sleep. Did you awake out of breath? Did

> you

> > fall asleep, dream and wake up 5mins later, and then repeat the

> > process for hours? I am looking for a ray of hope here. I am still

> on

> > 25mcgs of Synthroid (been on that dose for one month). I just had

> my

> > blood drawn Friday and will know where I stand. I am sure he will

> > increase my Syn as 25 is very low. I have been very depressed

> today.

> > I feel like I want to sit in a corner and cry my eyes out. I don't

> > know if it is not having enough meds or sadness over my situation.

> I

> > hope all of the S**T is from the meds not being right instead of

> some

> > other problem. It has been going on for about 3 months. A got maybe

> > 3hours sleep last night. All adrenal tests are normal, even the

> pupil

> > test, bp test, and scratch test.

> >

> >

> >

> > P.S. I am fat, but I don't snore much and I am not loud when I

> > do...so I have been told.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I went as high as 1gr with much difficulty. However, 1/4 gr bothered

me too.

gary

> > > -

> > >

> > > I am not sure if this is what is going on with you, but a few

years

> > ago, I

> > > was having very strange breathing episodes at night. I would

wake

> > up in the

> > > middle of the night gasping for air, like I was choking, and I

> > would run to

> > > the bathroom to get a drink of water (while basically still

> > sleeping). This

> > > would happen 2 sometimes 3 times a night. It was almost like a

> > panic attack

> > > while sleeping. I had a sleep study done, hoping it would

happen

> > while I

> > > was there, and of course - it didn't. This has not happened

to me

> > for a

> > > while, so I'm not sure if it was thyroid related or what. I'm

on

> > 100 mcg of

> > > Synthroid so maybe it's actually working for me. 25 mcg is a

very

> > low dose -

> > > why do they even bother? I'm sure your new labs will show that

25

> > is doing

> > > squat for you, other than making you worse and exhausted, no

wonder

> > you are

> > > depressed!!. What were the results of your sleep study? (I

think

> > you had

> > > one, right?).

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Carol

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > From: [mailto:garyland@y...]

> > > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 12:16 PM

> > > To: The_Thyroid_Support_Group

> > > Subject: breathing/sleep issues

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I would like to hear from those who had breathing issues

especially

> > > at night while trying to sleep. Did you awake out of breath?

Did

> > you

> > > fall asleep, dream and wake up 5mins later, and then repeat the

> > > process for hours? I am looking for a ray of hope here. I am

still

> > on

> > > 25mcgs of Synthroid (been on that dose for one month). I just

had

> > my

> > > blood drawn Friday and will know where I stand. I am sure he

will

> > > increase my Syn as 25 is very low. I have been very depressed

> > today.

> > > I feel like I want to sit in a corner and cry my eyes out. I

don't

> > > know if it is not having enough meds or sadness over my

situation.

> > I

> > > hope all of the S**T is from the meds not being right instead

of

> > some

> > > other problem. It has been going on for about 3 months. A got

maybe

> > > 3hours sleep last night. All adrenal tests are normal, even the

> > pupil

> > > test, bp test, and scratch test.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > P.S. I am fat, but I don't snore much and I am not loud when I

> > > do...so I have been told.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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--- wrote:

>

> I would like to hear from those who had breathing

> issues especially

> at night while trying to sleep. Did you awake out of

> breath? Did you

> fall asleep, dream and wake up 5mins later, and then

> repeat the

> process for hours? I am looking for a ray of hope

> here. I am still on

> 25mcgs of Synthroid (been on that dose for one

> month). I just had my

> blood drawn Friday and will know where I stand. I am

> sure he will

> increase my Syn as 25 is very low. I have been very

> depressed today.

> I feel like I want to sit in a corner and cry my

> eyes out. I don't

> know if it is not having enough meds or sadness over

> my situation. I

> hope all of the S**T is from the meds not being

> right instead of some

> other problem. It has been going on for about 3

> months. A got maybe

> 3hours sleep last night. All adrenal tests are

> normal, even the pupil

> test, bp test, and scratch test.

>

>

>

> P.S. I am fat, but I don't snore much and I am not

> loud when I

> do...so I have been told.

>

Hi , do I recall you've had a sleep study done? I

remember it being mentioned here on the group and for

some reason I think it was connected with you. Sleep

apnea sufferers don't necessarily snore. I have to

admit that I voted in the poll that my sleep patterns

were horrible, but I was diagnosed with sleep apnea 5

years ago, way after my dx. with hypothyroidism, so

any improvement in my sleep affected me big time. I'm

sleeping like the proverbial baby most of the time now

that I'm treated for the apnea. I never wake up 2 or

3 times to go pee anymore. I might wake up early once

every 2 or 3 months and have to go to the bathroom.

Before, I'd get up and go to the bathroom in the

middle of the night 2 or 3 times and fall asleep on

the toilet, then wake up about 30 - 45 minutes later

with my legs numb from lack of circulation. I got so

bad, I'd sit on the side of the bed and then fall off

the bed when I'd go back to sleep. I noticed my

sleeping patterns breaking a bit in the last year

since we've moved. I attributed it to the disturbance

in moving and having to get used to sleeping next to

the main living area where it's noisy, but I've been

sleeping through the noise most days since I've

switched to the natural thyroid. I usually only wake

up now when my Mom and sister have an argument or Mom

decides she needs to ask my sister something while my

sister is still upstairs in her bedroom, so she

hollars up the stairs. I've finally gotten Mom to

close my bedroom door in the mornings when she gets

up, and that helps.

Not that I've helped much, mostly just rambled. Just

consider asking for a sleep study if you haven't had

one.

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Asthma attacks can do this, and some asthma attacks, while lying on the back can be caused by acid reflux. I have seen this discussed by some medical authorities. They seem to be very subtle because they may not be accompanied by the wheeze and may be more serious than one with the wheeze, as in the bronchial tubes may be even more closed when this is going on, than when they are still pretty much open and make the more musical sound of a partially closed airway. Also, I know just said that his cortisol was normal, but a short while back he said that he had high cortisol, so what's up with the change on that, I wonder? Also, there is hyperventilation syndrome, which can happen in the middle of the night, if the breathing pattern is thrown off by sympathetic nerve impulses from whatever---a dream, anxiety, the autonomic nervous system being thrown off by physical ailments of whatever cause. These are some causes, but I can't really guess, as it could be myriads fo things.

RE: breathing/sleep issues

I am not sure if this is what is going on with you, but a few years ago, I was having very strange breathing episodes at night. I would wake up in the middle of the night gasping for air, like I was choking, and I would run to the bathroom to get a drink of water (while basically still sleeping). This would happen 2 sometimes 3 times a night. It was almost like a panic attack while sleeping. I had a sleep study done, hoping it would happen while I was there, and of course – it didn’t. This has not happened to me for a while, so I’m not sure if it was thyroid related or what. I’m on 100 mcg of Synthroid so maybe it’s actually working for me. 25 mcg is a very low dose – why do they even bother? I’m sure your new labs will show that 25 is doing squat for you, other than making you worse and exhausted, no wonder you are depressed!!. What were the results of your sleep study? (I think you had one, right?).

Carol

From: Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 12:16 PMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: breathing/sleep issues

I would like to hear from those who had breathing issues especially at night while trying to sleep. Did you awake out of breath? Did you fall asleep, dream and wake up 5mins later, and then repeat the process for hours? I am looking for a ray of hope here. I am still on 25mcgs of Synthroid (been on that dose for one month). I just had my blood drawn Friday and will know where I stand. I am sure he will increase my Syn as 25 is very low. I have been very depressed today. I feel like I want to sit in a corner and cry my eyes out. I don't know if it is not having enough meds or sadness over my situation. I hope all of the S**T is from the meds not being right instead of some other problem. It has been going on for about 3 months. A got maybe 3hours sleep last night. All adrenal tests are normal, even the pupil test, bp test, and scratch test.

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It's no wonder that his wife has dreams about hurricanes because have you

ever heard one of those things running when it's quiet? They make a wind

noise!

Re: breathing/sleep issues

>

> Dear ,

> I have no personal experience of this problem but a

> friend of mine was very badly affected. He was

> diagnosed with sleep apnea and now uses an air pump

> every night. He sleeps with a mask over his mouth and

> nose and breathes pressurised air. This has completely

> resolved the problem. He also takes 150mcg of

> thyroxine.

> I took 25mcg of thyroxine for about 2 months and the

> blood test at the end of that period was exactly the

> same as at the beginning! I am now on 100mcg and

> although that seemed to be OK for a couple of months

> am experiencing the return of hypothyroid symptoms.

> In the UK the air pump is supplied by the National

> Health Service, I guess if you are judged as needing

> one you would have to pay for it. I don't think they

> come cheap!

> My friend says his life has been transformed by the

> pump. The only problem seems to be occasional slippage

> of the mask when his wife says she has dreams of being

> caught in a hurricane!

> I hope you find a solution soon.

>

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