GD, diabetes, pregnancy, and sources of iodine....

[Guest guest]

Hi Janet,

Glad you found the list.

Sounds like you have what they call subclinical Graves' Disease, and it's a

good sign that it's just staying stagnant.

Do a search on www.google.com for iodine and you'll find some resources. the

american cancer association has some good food content listings. there are

some surpising sources of iodine like red dye.

Many people with subclinical GD (4% of the population has this compared to

0.4% of the population having Graves' disease) end up with the TSH eventually

rising on its own. Hopefully, this will be your case, too, and it's good that

you're watching out for environmental triggers. Elaine

[Guest guest]

Hi. I'm new here. I haven't yet been diagnosed with Graves' Disease,

but it seems likely that I eventually will be, because:

1. My TSH has been running low for several years and the most recent

lab showed it in the basement (0.01 with a reference range of 0.4 -

5.5).

2. I have thyroid peroxidase antibodies (2 with a reference range of

<2).

3. I have a family history (mother and maternal grandmother) of

hyperthyroidism, almost certainly GD, although it was never called

that. (Both had thyroidectomies. My mother became hyperthyroid in

1964, soon after I was born.)

4. I have type 1 diabetes (another autoimmune disease).

On the bright side, I have no symptoms and my T3 and T4 levels are

normal. I got the lab results Friday afternoon and haven't talked to

any doctor about them yet, but I've been doing some research on GD

since then. Despite the fact that my TSH levels have been low for a

while, this has come a bit out of the blue for me; the endo I used to

go to for my diabetes never really explained to me what a low TSH

meant, and didn't seem to think it was anything to worry about or

follow. The endo I've been seeing for the last year is a bit more on

the ball. Anyway, I thought I'd look in here to see what people have

to say.

Last time I saw him, my endo warned me to watch my iodine intake. (He

particularly mentioned vitamin supplements that contain potassium

iodide.) Being diabetic, the last thing I want is to have to restrict

my diet further, but I'm hoping that there are some easy things I can

do to cut down on iodine.

The thing that concerns me most at the moment is that I'm trying to

get pregnant. I've been following the strict diet guidelines I was

given for diabetic pregnancy, which include 3 servings of milk a day.

Now I read that milk can be a source of iodine, so I'm wondering

whether it's possible to find out how much iodine the milk in a given

region has. (I gather that it varies a great deal.) Also, is bread

only high in iodine if it's got preservatives in it? Anything else I

should look out for, besides seaweed and seafood?

I'll be talking to my doctor next week, but I just wanted to get a

head start on thinking about this.

Sorry for the long post.

/Janet Lafler

[Guest guest]

Hi Janet,

Welcome to the group!

Here is a copy/paste of foods with iodine in them from Elaine in

Virginia...it is message 3553 in the archives, and there was quite a

discussion on this. If you use the search in the messages and type in

iodine list or you will see them. Just to warn you though, RAI also comes

up on this search

The list:

For those who are concerned about iodine in foods, the following list might

help.

Elaine

(Virginia)

IODINE CONTENT IN FOODS

Item Iodine (parts per million)

SALT

Iodized 54

Seasoned 40

Sun-evaporated 30

Uniodized 19

DRINKING WATER

(US average) 8

SEAFOOD

Kelp 1,020

Squid 39

Crab 33

Sole 24

Clams 20

Shrimp 17

Shark 15

Sea bass 13

Lobster 9

Oysters 8

Red Snapper 7

MEAT AND POULTRY

Beef liver 325

Turkey 132

Chicken 67

Stew meat 66

Hamburger 44

DAIRY

Cheddar cheese spread 27

Butter 26

Mozzarella cheese 13

Homogenized milk 11

Monterey Jack cheese 10

Nonfat dry milk 7

Sour cream 7

Cottage cheese 5

Yogurt 3

VEGETABLES

Asparagus 169

Broccoli 90

Onion (white) 82

Corn 45

Brussels sprouts 23

Peas 13

Tomatoes 10

Potato (Idaho) 9

Carrots 8

Green beans 7

Spinach 7

Okra 4

MISCELLANEOUS

Tortilla chips 80

Wheat germ 46

Potato chips 40

Orange juice 18

Almonds 17

Oats 16

Pretzels 15

Apple 8

White bread 8

Vegetable shortening 7

Pear 4

Cola 3

Milk chocolate 2

Sugar 2

From http://www.skintek.com/iodine.txt

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[Guest guest]

> Hi. I'm new here. I haven't yet been diagnosed with Graves'

Disease,

> but it seems likely that I eventually will be, because:

>

> 1. My TSH has been running low for several years and the most

recent

> lab showed it in the basement (0.01 with a reference range of 0.4 -

> 5.5).

> 2. I have thyroid peroxidase antibodies (2 with a reference range

of

> <2).

> 3. I have a family history (mother and maternal grandmother) of

> hyperthyroidism, almost certainly GD, although it was never called

> that. (Both had thyroidectomies. My mother became hyperthyroid in

> 1964, soon after I was born.)

> 4. I have type 1 diabetes (another autoimmune disease).

>

> On the bright side, I have no symptoms and my T3 and T4 levels are

> normal. I got the lab results Friday afternoon and haven't talked

to

> any doctor about them yet, but I've been doing some research on GD

> since then. Despite the fact that my TSH levels have been low for a

> while, this has come a bit out of the blue for me; the endo I used

to

> go to for my diabetes never really explained to me what a low TSH

> meant, and didn't seem to think it was anything to worry about or

> follow. The endo I've been seeing for the last year is a bit more

on

> the ball. Anyway, I thought I'd look in here to see what people

have

> to say.

>

> Last time I saw him, my endo warned me to watch my iodine intake.

(He

> particularly mentioned vitamin supplements that contain potassium

> iodide.) Being diabetic, the last thing I want is to have to

restrict

> my diet further, but I'm hoping that there are some easy things I

can

> do to cut down on iodine.

>

> The thing that concerns me most at the moment is that I'm trying to

> get pregnant. I've been following the strict diet guidelines I was

> given for diabetic pregnancy, which include 3 servings of milk a

day.

> Now I read that milk can be a source of iodine, so I'm wondering

> whether it's possible to find out how much iodine the milk in a

given

> region has. (I gather that it varies a great deal.) Also, is bread

> only high in iodine if it's got preservatives in it? Anything else

I

> should look out for, besides seaweed and seafood?

>

> I'll be talking to my doctor next week, but I just wanted to get a

> head start on thinking about this.

>

> Sorry for the long post.

>

> /Janet Lafler

Thanks for your long post Janet. It is possible to sum things up too

briefly.

Sorry you might have GD. I think you have come to a good place if you

want to get info on having a baby while ill with autoimmune diseases.

There are lots of people here that are trying and succeeding in

having babies.

Welcome to the group and I hope you enjoy the best possible health.

F

[Guest guest]

That leaves nothing good to eat!

Seriously though.. Is it recommended to avoid these foods entirely? I

can't see myself not having any milk or meat, and obviously drinking water

is a necessary. Is there a certain amount of iodine to have, but to try

not to exceed perhaps?

Thanks,

...

> Re: GD, diabetes, pregnancy, and sources of

> iodine....

>

>

> Hi Janet,

> Welcome to the group!

>

> Here is a copy/paste of foods with iodine in them from Elaine in

> Virginia...it is message 3553 in the archives, and there was quite a

> discussion on this. If you use the search in the messages and type in

> iodine list or you will see them. Just to warn you though, RAI

> also comes

> up on this search

>

> The list:

>

>

>

> For those who are concerned about iodine in foods, the following

> list might

> help.

>

> Elaine

> (Virginia)

>

> IODINE CONTENT IN FOODS

>

> Item Iodine (parts per million)

>

> SALT

> Iodized 54

> Seasoned 40

> Sun-evaporated 30

> Uniodized 19

>

> DRINKING WATER

> (US average) 8

>

> SEAFOOD

> Kelp 1,020

> Squid 39

> Crab 33

> Sole 24

> Clams 20

> Shrimp 17

> Shark 15

> Sea bass 13

> Lobster 9

> Oysters 8

> Red Snapper 7

>

> MEAT AND POULTRY

> Beef liver 325

> Turkey 132

> Chicken 67

> Stew meat 66

> Hamburger 44

>

> DAIRY

> Cheddar cheese spread 27

> Butter 26

> Mozzarella cheese 13

> Homogenized milk 11

> Monterey Jack cheese 10

> Nonfat dry milk 7

> Sour cream 7

> Cottage cheese 5

> Yogurt 3

>

> VEGETABLES

> Asparagus 169

> Broccoli 90

> Onion (white) 82

> Corn 45

> Brussels sprouts 23

> Peas 13

> Tomatoes 10

> Potato (Idaho) 9

> Carrots 8

> Green beans 7

> Spinach 7

> Okra 4

>

> MISCELLANEOUS

> Tortilla chips 80

> Wheat germ 46

> Potato chips 40

> Orange juice 18

> Almonds 17

> Oats 16

> Pretzels 15

> Apple 8

> White bread 8

> Vegetable shortening 7

> Pear 4

> Cola 3

> Milk chocolate 2

> Sugar 2

>

> From http://www.skintek.com/iodine.txt

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

I think we have multiple Vals now..

Maybe to avoid confusion we should have some distinction between the

two of us.

I can be Val L. if that helps?

Val L.

> Hi Val,

> Go to the web address at the end of that list and see what it says. Unless

> Elaine from Virginia is reading and knows more. She is the one who helped

> me with it.

> Jody

>

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> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> ----------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Val,

Go to the web address at the end of that list and see what it says. Unless

Elaine from Virginia is reading and knows more. She is the one who helped

me with it.

Jody

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

You can have up to 150 mcg iodine daily. Amounts greater than that cause

problems in GD folks. The average fast food diet provides 1,000 mcg daily. If

you eliminate iodine and kelp in your vitamins and eliminate the high iodine

food sources like seafood, and watch out for processed foods, and buy

non-iodized salt for home, then you can just avoid the foods you mentioned.

By avoid, it's meant you can have small amounts on an occasional basis.

[Guest guest]

I see that broccoli is listed relatively high on the iodine list. Yet

it's also one of the top goitrogens and I ate quite a bit after being

diagnosed. Is that a good idea? Would it be a good idea to eat it now? My

endo (who set 4 patients up with RAI the day I last saw him) thinks I

have a good chance of going into remission (and as he himself said, if

he, the pro-RAI guy, says it I should take it seriously). My goiter has

been shrinking slowly only as of the last half year; it's now 14 months

that I've been on ATD's.

Good luck, Janet. My mother's best friend had 3 healthy children with

active diabetes.

Stay well,

Fay

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[Guest guest]

Fay, broccoli will help you and complement the ATDs. Even with its iodine

content, the sulfur and other chemicals in it inhibit iodine absorption. and

it's full of nutrients and antioxidants.

[Guest guest]

Hi Janet-

One thing, I've been trying for almost 3 years to get pregnant (was

successful after 2 1/2 years of trying with fertility treatments before) but

haven't had any luck this time. I had RAI many years ago (14) and have no

thyroid function of my own left. It seems like others that haven't had RAI

have had better luck.

Take care,

>

> > Hi. I'm new here. I haven't yet been diagnosed with Graves'

> Disease,

> > but it seems likely that I eventually will be, because:

> >

> > 1. My TSH has been running low for several years and the most

> recent

> > lab showed it in the basement (0.01 with a reference range of 0.4 -

> > 5.5).

> > 2. I have thyroid peroxidase antibodies (2 with a reference range

> of

> > <2).

> > 3. I have a family history (mother and maternal grandmother) of

> > hyperthyroidism, almost certainly GD, although it was never called

> > that. (Both had thyroidectomies. My mother became hyperthyroid in

> > 1964, soon after I was born.)

> > 4. I have type 1 diabetes (another autoimmune disease).

> >

> > On the bright side, I have no symptoms and my T3 and T4 levels are

> > normal. I got the lab results Friday afternoon and haven't talked

> to

> > any doctor about them yet, but I've been doing some research on GD

> > since then. Despite the fact that my TSH levels have been low for a

> > while, this has come a bit out of the blue for me; the endo I used

> to

> > go to for my diabetes never really explained to me what a low TSH

> > meant, and didn't seem to think it was anything to worry about or

> > follow. The endo I've been seeing for the last year is a bit more

> on

> > the ball. Anyway, I thought I'd look in here to see what people

> have

> > to say.

> >

> > Last time I saw him, my endo warned me to watch my iodine intake.

> (He

> > particularly mentioned vitamin supplements that contain potassium

> > iodide.) Being diabetic, the last thing I want is to have to

> restrict

> > my diet further, but I'm hoping that there are some easy things I

> can

> > do to cut down on iodine.

> >

> > The thing that concerns me most at the moment is that I'm trying to

> > get pregnant. I've been following the strict diet guidelines I was

> > given for diabetic pregnancy, which include 3 servings of milk a

> day.

> > Now I read that milk can be a source of iodine, so I'm wondering

> > whether it's possible to find out how much iodine the milk in a

> given

> > region has. (I gather that it varies a great deal.) Also, is bread

> > only high in iodine if it's got preservatives in it? Anything else

> I

> > should look out for, besides seaweed and seafood?

> >

> > I'll be talking to my doctor next week, but I just wanted to get a

> > head start on thinking about this.

> >

> > Sorry for the long post.

> >

> > /Janet Lafler

>

> Thanks for your long post Janet. It is possible to sum things up too

> briefly.

>

> Sorry you might have GD. I think you have come to a good place if you

> want to get info on having a baby while ill with autoimmune diseases.

> There are lots of people here that are trying and succeeding in

> having babies.

>

> Welcome to the group and I hope you enjoy the best possible health.

> F